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November 08, 2023, 12:12:41 PM
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I am not really so good with predicting and speculating anything most especially in regards to the crypto market but what I know is that when there is a bull run for Bitcoin then many altcoins would also be following. And this got something to do with sentiment...when there is an extreme positivity rubbing on the King of Cryptos then there is a big chance that alts would also be getting some of the benefits. I am not sure though if there is a proven correlation with this assumption. So by 2024 we can expect that there would be a double bull run...one happening for Bitcoin and another one happening for many alts especially the leading and more popular ones.

bitcoin sets the tone for the entire market it’s been said that if the price for btc is looking up then this might be a good indication that altcoins will also go up this is because altcoins are quite literally tied to btc due to altcoins’ exchange rate being dependent on the price of btc

however this is not always the case

there is a phenomenon called altseason wherein btc goes down typically after a bull run and everyone is pulling out their money and there are more people putting their money into altcoins instead
investing into trusted altcoins right before an altseason would be a smart move

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November 08, 2023, 02:05:22 PM
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There's a bull market for a stand-alone altcoin. I think we have seen it before with BNB, Dogecoin, and more. These coins have been hyped and entered the bull without Bitcoin climbing up.
How to spot the new altcoins that will do the same is a big problem though.
Right now, most altcoins rely on the Bitcoin bull, and when it's stagnant, so do them. Ethereum on the other hand had been moving without Bitcoin climbing up but that expected being the number 1 altcoin in the industry. Pepe also grew yesterday but I would not expect that memecoin to sustain it for a long time. Perhaps it's just the leftover hype and it's making its market move.
When does an altcoin grow? Whenever the SEC attacks them. That's one. XRP is the proof of it.
It needs a big trend and I don't think that it can easily be received now considering most of the investors are waiting for the Bitcoin ETF.

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November 08, 2023, 09:15:59 PM
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From all the comments so far I have come to the conclusion that bitcoin has no specific bear and bull market on their own but hiding out under bitcoin. Altcoins have no bull market and whenever bitcoin price appreciate they are also increase. And I believe most people are not using it because of this nature of it. But that is not withstanding, altcoins is still good to invest.









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November 08, 2023, 09:55:24 PM
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Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
Usually, they're first to go on a bull run than Bitcoin.
That's what I have noticed on them for the past years when we're approaching for Bitcoin's halving and bull run. But definitely, we tend to see the bull run of Bitcoin and then majority of the alts are following it. For some instances, there are the altcoins that are moving first just as I have said.
Looking and knowing for those is unknown.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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November 08, 2023, 09:57:24 PM
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Though you haven't heard about the bull and bear markets for altcoins, you must hear about alt season. Bull and bear totally depend on Bitcoin; hence, it is called the bull market and the bear market. Most of the altcoins follow the Bitcoin trends, though the growth ratio would differ from Bitcoin. When Bitcoin maintains stability during a bull run, we discover the alt season. That means it will be really bullish for altcoins. But altcoin would never make bull alone without Bitcoin.

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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?

Whatever anyone says the market always follows bitcoin.  Not saying if bitcoin goes up than all alts will.  But generally speaking that's how it works.  There is TA out there that indicates when bulls and bears start and end but if you can see bitcoin pumping like it has the last 30 days ypu will see alts follow.

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November 09, 2023, 05:25:55 AM
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Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
The very first thing one should know is why are there bull and bear markets. There is no rocket science in that, a bull market occurs when there is more demand and less supply, if we talk about Bitcoin, we know it has a limited supply, and when the demand increases and people who are holding Bitcoins aren't willing to sell, those who are willing to buy keep bidding higher so that they can buy some. On the opposite side, a bear market occurs when the same thing is reversed, which means there isn't much demand and there is more than enough supply, which means that more people are willing to sell as quickly as they can and there are fewer people interested in buying, so the sellers start dropping the price so that they can sell their assets as quickly as possible.

Now, if we talk about altcoin bull or bear markets, there aren't specific times for them, and they generally go up and down with Bitcoin and the reason is the same as I described above. When Bitcoin holders start dumping their Bitcoins and the market starts going down, people holding altcoins see that happening and they start selling as well, the same happens when the price of Bitcoin is going up, investors think altcoins will go up as well so they start buying. Cryptocurrencies that don't receive enough investments wouldn't gain high value even during a bull run.

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November 09, 2023, 08:35:24 AM
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Talking about bull run for altcoins, I can't really tell if there's a specific time that we should be expecting such because most of the altcoins respond to Bitcoin, so Bitcoin volatility and movements have great impact on them as they follow same trend as Bitcoin, so most time when Bitcoin is on the bull run they follow suit and if btc is experiencing a deep aswell, same goes with those altcoins, personally my experience has been that you observe Bitcoin closely and will get some insight into how other altcoins could possibly behave.

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There is no specific bear or Bull market for altcoins because they are all dependent on the price of bitcoin. It is difficult to know that when the Bull and bear season of altcoins will initiate but we can see the ups and downs in bitcoin price so whenever it grows up there will be immediate growth in altcoins price too.

We are waiting for Bull season that will occur due to halving so it is named as bitcoin Bull season but actually all other coins Fluctuates in the same way as that of bitcoin. Bitcoin and ethereum moves up with each other which has some positive effects on the growth of other altcoins too.

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November 11, 2023, 07:37:02 PM
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From all the comments so far I have come to the conclusion that bitcoin has no specific bear and bull market on their own but hiding out under bitcoin. Altcoins have no bull market and whenever bitcoin price appreciate they are also increase. And I believe most people are not using it because of this nature of it. But that is not withstanding, altcoins is still good to invest.
We are still in the bear market and we just have to wait till when the bull market will come. There are many people especially cryptocurrency analysts, saying that the bull market will commence by next year. We are also close and we have not still seen the market improving in the way that would be purely visible for us to be certain that the bear market is leaving us for the bull that is loading.

Anything can happen in the market. Next year might come and we might not even see a strong bull market like the way have have been expecting it to come. It is important for us to keep accumulating because anything can still happen in the crypto sphere.









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November 12, 2023, 03:30:50 AM
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Though you haven't heard about the bull and bear markets for altcoins, you must hear about alt season. Bull and bear totally depend on Bitcoin; hence, it is called the bull market and the bear market. Most of the altcoins follow the Bitcoin trends, though the growth ratio would differ from Bitcoin. When Bitcoin maintains stability during a bull run, we discover the alt season. That means it will be really bullish for altcoins. But altcoin would never make bull alone without Bitcoin.
I think I get the point that altcoins do tend to follow the bullish trend of Bitcoin but I would still like to know how possible is it that not all of them do because there are millions of altcoins out there and I can't deduce that all do move up during this period because most of these altcoins are what is known as shitcoins and their bull movement can just be of some minutes,hours, or days who knows, so if anyone is looking to catch some fun in investment in these coins, the more reputable ones would be more preferable.

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November 12, 2023, 07:24:37 AM
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Bull markets and bear markets for altcoins depend on Bitcoin. This can be seen from previous data, when Bitcoin is in a bull market, all altcoins are bullish, and when the Bitcoin market is bearish, altcoins are also bearish and can even fall sharply. Bitcoin dominance is also often used as a benchmark as a sign of Altcoin movements. Altcoins will be very volatile if Bitcoin experiences price declines and increases. In general, the bearish and bullish altcoin seasons follow the Bitcoin cycle.

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November 13, 2023, 09:35:20 AM
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Bull markets and bear markets for altcoins depend on Bitcoin. This can be seen from previous data, when Bitcoin is in a bull market, all altcoins are bullish, and when the Bitcoin market is bearish, altcoins are also bearish and can even fall sharply. Bitcoin dominance is also often used as a benchmark as a sign of Altcoin movements. Altcoins will be very volatile if Bitcoin experiences price declines and increases. In general, the bearish and bullish altcoin seasons follow the Bitcoin cycle.
As far as I remember from the 2016-2017 pre bull market it is quite different, when bitcoin gone high, altcoins will go down since traders are transferring their altcoins into bitcoin and it is happening vice versa when bitcoin dumps, altcoins pumps. It is different last bull market where bitcoin is the lead on where can the altcoin can go. My take is it is hard to expect the same thing again since it is not consistent and it has a chance to not be on the expected pattern.
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November 13, 2023, 10:31:36 AM
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There will surely be a bull market and altcoin season also. some Altcoins will outperform Bitcoin also. So, the best time to invest in meaningful ones is now. Also ,When you see that any altcoin is outperforming bitcoin, The best idea isg u to take profit from them to buy more  Bitcoin before another bear market or just use liquidity mining/Bitget smart portfolio to pair them with Bitcoin to automatically take profit from them while you earn some Fees in APY for doing so .
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November 13, 2023, 10:50:44 AM
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
It has been said or happened many times mate that Bull market of altcoins are mostly happens
after Bitcoin make its way to the top as what we have seen many times before but make sure to be updated when altcoin is there.

What I also wanna hear is about BEAR MARKET OF ALTCOINS , that is what I never learn
from the start or have not understand the market for this(or maybe i am not truly interested because Im in Bitcoin)

From all the comments so far I have come to the conclusion that bitcoin has no specific bear and bull market on their own but hiding out under bitcoin. Altcoins have no bull market and whenever bitcoin price appreciate they are also increase. And I believe most people are not using it because of this nature of it. But that is not withstanding, altcoins is still good to invest.
exactly , and this is yes the right thought for Altcoins mate as it is truly hiding from Bitcoin
though sometimes some altcoins are going up but not the totality .

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November 13, 2023, 02:12:27 PM
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Bull markets and bear markets for altcoins depend on Bitcoin. This can be seen from previous data, when Bitcoin is in a bull market, all altcoins are bullish, and when the Bitcoin market is bearish, altcoins are also bearish and can even fall sharply. Bitcoin dominance is also often used as a benchmark as a sign of Altcoin movements. Altcoins will be very volatile if Bitcoin experiences price declines and increases. In general, the bearish and bullish altcoin seasons follow the Bitcoin cycle.
As far as I remember from the 2016-2017 pre bull market it is quite different, when bitcoin gone high, altcoins will go down since traders are transferring their altcoins into bitcoin and it is happening vice versa when bitcoin dumps, altcoins pumps. It is different last bull market where bitcoin is the lead on where can the altcoin can go. My take is it is hard to expect the same thing again since it is not consistent and it has a chance to not be on the expected pattern.
Yes, the altcoin pump pattern changes every circle. This time the altcoin pump was greatly influenced by Bitcoin dominance and Bitcoin movements. Although there are several altcoins that move unpredictably without permission. Is this influenced by the altcoin market cap which has increased? Altcoin marketcap and Bitcoin marketcap are different, I don't fully understand altcoins, because I'm rarely involved with altcoins, maybe only a few on the list of the top 100 coin marketcaps. In essence I am referring to bitcoin, when Bitcoin goes up after a while Altcoin also goes up and vice versa.

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November 13, 2023, 09:59:36 PM
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So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
There is but when bitcoin is making highs the altcoins are just eating the dust and if Bitcoin gets a correction it's suffering more even if it just move a little. If you're monitoring the market we already got a mini altcoin season already but during bull market they explode more compare from this moves they made in the past weeks.
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?

That is difficult to forecast; do you know why? This is due to the extreme volatility of cryptocurrencies, which may be attributed to a variety of causes such as technical advancement and our global economy.

Other analysts believe that we are still in the early phases of the altcoin bull market, with creative cryptocurrency projects still being established. So, to be honest, answering your question is difficult.

But I think it's crucial for everyone to understand that bull and bear markets are normal parts of the financial system. Although the bear market might be frightening, it also presents a chance for us to purchase assets at a reduced price and hang onto them in order to make money later. Although bull markets might be thrilling, it's vital to keep in mind that they don't endure forever.






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November 14, 2023, 05:09:42 AM
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Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?
The very first thing one should know is why are there bull and bear markets. There is no rocket science in that, a bull market occurs when there is more demand and less supply, if we talk about Bitcoin, we know it has a limited supply, and when the demand increases and people who are holding Bitcoins aren't willing to sell, those who are willing to buy keep bidding higher so that they can buy some. On the opposite side, a bear market occurs when the same thing is reversed, which means there isn't much demand and there is more than enough supply, which means that more people are willing to sell as quickly as they can and there are fewer people interested in buying, so the sellers start dropping the price so that they can sell their assets as quickly as possible.

Now, if we talk about altcoin bull or bear markets, there aren't specific times for them, and they generally go up and down with Bitcoin and the reason is the same as I described above. When Bitcoin holders start dumping their Bitcoins and the market starts going down, people holding altcoins see that happening and they start selling as well, the same happens when the price of Bitcoin is going up, investors think altcoins will go up as well so they start buying. Cryptocurrencies that don't receive enough investments wouldn't gain high value even during a bull run.
Supply and demand are key. Bitcoin is a classic capped supply example. When demand exceeds supply, prices rise; the opposite causes a bear market.

Not all altcoins are equal. Utility, governance, and technology offer unique value propositions. These factors may separate their market movements from Bitcoin's. So, the takeaway? Investors must look beyond Bitcoin. Analyze altcoins. Which ones are useful or innovative? Market fluctuations may make these more resilient. Remember that crypto excitement can boost prices, but real-world applications and adoption provide long-term value.

Future market movements may involve altcoins with solid fundamentals and unique use cases, rather than simply following Bitcoin. They may choose their own courses based on inherent merit, not market opinion. Doing your homework pays off for intelligent investors. Look beyond the hype, understand the technology, and invest in projects with real potential.

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November 14, 2023, 05:31:32 AM
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Hey guys! I made some research and I didn't see this topic and I want to make comments there and since I could not get anyone here so I decided to drop this one. I have been hearing bitcoin bear market and the bull market but I have not really heard of a bear and bull market for Altcoins. So I will like to know the bear and the bull market of the altcoins or are they following the market price of bitcoin? Bitcoin is a project on it own and has it own blockchain and network and likewise with Altcoins.

Some of the Altcoins are good to invest but most of us are not aware of that if they are good because there is no bull time for them. And the way I see at them they are just going along with bitcoin. So some of the Altcoins are waiting for the next bitcoin bull market. So my humble question is there no bull market for Altcoins? If yes, there is, then when is the expectation and if no why?

It usually follows Bitcoin only. When Bitcoin bull run will start, other alt coins will also follow. Same with bear market also. There can be some exceptions also. Like if particular alt coin made an association with some big company, we may see bull run for that particular coin.
Like once there was news that litecoin will be used for Walmart payments. It boosted price of litecoin a lot.
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