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Question: What form of payment do you most use when gambling?
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November 17, 2023, 08:09:56 AM
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whereas using usdt on the tron network is much cheaper and faster, so in a few deposits i can save time and a few dollars.
This is bullshit, from the last year until now, USDT in TRC20 charge for $2. If you're using Tron, the transaction fee could be free as long as you have enough bandwidth.

Previously when we used to withdraw USDT to the gambling site via the Trc20 network, it cost less than 0.25$ fee but now for some time, it detects around 2 dollar fee in the form of trx. So using USDT to deposit often in gambling sites is not feasible at all.

I think maybe not everyone keeps their bitcoins, there are still some gamblers who might still use their bitcoins to gamble and multiply their bitcoins in gambling, usually rich people often do that even though the bull market is running, they only focus on gambling and can have lots of bitcoins from the gambling they play.
Don't forget many rich gamblers also lose, maybe more of them are in lose. But since they have a business or high paying job, they can easily recover their losses in gambling.

Well, it's a personal choice if anyone has a lot of bitcoins and wants to bet with them to increase the quantity of bitcoins, While this may be fruitful but the risk of losing those bitcoins is also there.
I would not gamble my bitcoins to get more bitcoins. This is not a wise approach. Perhaps I can gamble with limited money only for entertainment purposes but I won't put my bitcoin savings in gambling.

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November 17, 2023, 01:51:14 PM
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Now that the bull market is about to kick in, I would not even really prefer to gamble with Bitcoin; I still intend to add more BTC to my holdings for the sake of more profit during the bull run.
That's a good choice, adding more bitcoins to you instead of having to use your bitcoins to gamble just want to double your bitcoins, but the risk can be fatal losing a lot of bitcoins, I think using stable coin money is easier or using fiat money via credit card, honestly Of course what you say is true that the crypto market is heading bullish so it cannot be denied that currently people are saving more of their bitcoins rather than using them for gambling.

I think maybe not everyone keeps their bitcoins, there are still some gamblers who might still use their bitcoins to gamble and multiply their bitcoins in gambling, usually rich people often do that even though the bull market is running, they only focus on gambling and can have lots of bitcoins from the gambling they play.
Many people who are holding on to their Bitcoins are actually second-thinking giving them up because the cryptocurrency market is going up. Actually, you're right - some people, mostly rich people, still bet with them. Despite changes in the market, they only seem to care about the thrill of the risk.

There are, however, some problems with using Bitcoin for gambling because of its high fees. Why? With each exchange, your possible winnings are reduced, which makes it less appealing for quick, small bets. Imagine actually winning, but those annoying fees take away some of your prize. Therefore, what is the other option? For example, stablecoins or using regular money like credit cards, as you said. Less complicated, lower fees.

How about looking at crypto gambling not only as a financial choice, but also as a mental one? Its about the thrill, the danger, and the possible payoff. Unfortunately, Bitcoin's fees make the risk greater than the gain. There may be better, less expensive solutions out there now. You can bet, but lets not risk our money, okay?

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November 17, 2023, 02:28:33 PM
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I don't use bitcoins for gambling because if I lose gambling and if I lose bitcoins because of losing I think more money will be deducted from my account than the amount I will lose gambling. I like to invest in Bitcoin but I don't like to sell or use my investment for any other purpose. Let's say I gambled and lost $100. At the time I gambled and lost $100, Bitcoin was worth $30,000. But after a few days, when the price of Bitcoin will go to 35 thousand dollars, if I calculate 100 dollars, then it will be seen that my loss is more than 100 rupees. This is how I think about Bitcoin, which is why I never gamble with Bitcoin, rather I prefer to gamble with virtual dollars. Since we have alternatives, we should always use alternatives.

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November 17, 2023, 02:40:05 PM
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I don't use bitcoins for gambling because if I lose gambling and if I lose bitcoins because of losing I think more money will be deducted from my account than the amount I will lose gambling. I like to invest in Bitcoin but I don't like to sell or use my investment for any other purpose. Let's say I gambled and lost $100. At the time I gambled and lost $100, Bitcoin was worth $30,000. But after a few days, when the price of Bitcoin will go to 35 thousand dollars, if I calculate 100 dollars, then it will be seen that my loss is more than 100 rupees. This is how I think about Bitcoin, which is why I never gamble with Bitcoin, rather I prefer to gamble with virtual dollars. Since we have alternatives, we should always use alternatives.
Using bitcoin when transaction costs are increasing, like now, makes many people avoid it and prefer to use altcoins or even stablecoins for gambling. This saves more on transaction costs so that they can use more or the same money as before to gamble. And you're telling the truth about preferring to use altcoins or stablecoins over bitcoin. It's better to keep the bitcoins rather than use them for gambling. But I still often use bitcoin for gambling and in times like now, I prefer not to gamble until everything returns to normal. If I wanted to gamble, I would also choose TRX or XRP or USDT because the transaction costs are still low.

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November 19, 2023, 04:07:32 AM
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In most of my gaming sessions I always like to use bitcoin, because it is the type that I want to add satoshis the most, so when I play I do it in bitcoin but that is what I use the most, the truth is that altcoins are some very good to use here in the caisnos , but in what I Always think is bicoin, there may be some that prefer more to altcins, but it is a matter of taste, each person decides what to do, how to move their money and what they can achieve Instead, and I could say The things when it comes to casinos and money, I prefer that because playing with USD is not to my liking, as I said before, I prefer to use my ATHs to have a broader path of the game, some people do not risk the transaction at this time. The fact is that it is going up more than normal, it could be that it is selling at that time, I hope so because it is very necessary for me to be able to get a good ATH at this time, it wouldn't be bad at all.

Now when we are in a casino and Anyone can choose the currency they want, of course if it is available, in my case as I said before, even if bitcoin is rising in price I still play, because I see btc as btc, not like value of fiat money, it is something that will always be something great, the good thing about this is that the way to have BTC money will always be valued, because I like it more with bitcoin than with an alt, which in a moment well The alt would die if like it has done to many other alts, for that reason it costs me more btc, although there are still people who bet the other alts and can win a lot , Because they feel comfortable betting the alts than their own money fia, and they have the same direction or way of thinking as mine , because it is Easier to Do it that way , I think this is something that can be noticed from a distance, we are ordinary people and here in the caisnos you usually see a lot, I would think It's like a tradition , since my first casino was all with BTC, which I played.

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November 19, 2023, 07:27:13 AM
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Well, it's a personal choice if anyone has a lot of bitcoins and wants to bet with them to increase the quantity of bitcoins, While this may be fruitful but the risk of losing those bitcoins is also there.
I would not gamble my bitcoins to get more bitcoins. This is not a wise approach. Perhaps I can gamble with limited money only for entertainment purposes but I won't put my bitcoin savings in gambling.
Yes, as we can see from the poll statistics in this thread, everyone chooses fiat money or other cryptocurrencies, after all, bitcoin is a future that has quite a high value and is also expensive, gambling using bitcoin in my opinion is very risky of losing its value too, just look at the gamblers who already using bitcoin a few years ago surely they saw the statistics of the amount of bitcoin they spent on it if valued at today's prices, it's really sad

Bitcoin is a hedge where they should be used only for investment purposes, it is not suitable to be used for gambling let alone to pay for something, but it all comes back to each individual's view, personally I also don't use bitcoin, I prefer other cryptocurrencies or fiat money, such as you say that using bitcoin for betting is not a wise approach.  Cheesy

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I don't use bitcoins for gambling because if I lose gambling and if I lose bitcoins because of losing I think more money will be deducted from my account than the amount I will lose gambling. I like to invest in Bitcoin but I don't like to sell or use my investment for any other purpose. Let's say I gambled and lost $100. At the time I gambled and lost $100, Bitcoin was worth $30,000. But after a few days, when the price of Bitcoin will go to 35 thousand dollars, if I calculate 100 dollars, then it will be seen that my loss is more than 100 rupees. This is how I think about Bitcoin, which is why I never gamble with Bitcoin, rather I prefer to gamble with virtual dollars. Since we have alternatives, we should always use alternatives.
I have never thought of it this way but if Bitcoin is viewed as a currency then when you gamble with Bitcoin or gamble with any of your other funds but both are your funds.  It may also happen that if you invest the fund in bitcoins without gambling bitcoin, the bitcoins will not be lost. If I actually consider from your point of view, if you lose by gambling, then your funds that could have been invested in bitcoins, so Bitcoin will also loss if I consider this point. But in gambling it may happen that you gamble with bitcoins and win and your bitcoin amount increases several times. I mean basically anyone can play whatever they like but gambling with stable coins makes things a little easier for me.

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November 19, 2023, 08:25:47 AM
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Regardless the high TX fees, I still feel Gambling with Bitcoin is more preferable to other cryptos or even fiat. I have s many reasons but I'll only pickpoint two of the most important reasons which are Security and Privacy.
When gambling I'm very. Skeptical about these two factors, and I believe Bitcoin offers the wildest range of these. Bitcoin has the highest level anonymity and safety and despite and these factors can't be compromised. I'm not saying other cryptos do not have these qualities but what I'm saying is that I feel safer with Bitcoin.

Again, we all know that Bitcoin transactions are the fastest, so irrespective of the high tx fees, Bitcoin still beats every other payment methods when it comes to safety, speed and security. No one would want a situation where your transactions are being delayed, whether with deposits or withdrawals.

Well, I believe how much the player stakes also plays a vital role here. A high staker would likely always prefer to use Bitcoin to bet regardless the tx fees, while it is likely to be quite the opposite for a low staker.

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I don't use bitcoins for gambling because if I lose gambling and if I lose bitcoins because of losing I think more money will be deducted from my account than the amount I will lose gambling. I like to invest in Bitcoin but I don't like to sell or use my investment for any other purpose. Let's say I gambled and lost $100. At the time I gambled and lost $100, Bitcoin was worth $30,000. But after a few days, when the price of Bitcoin will go to 35 thousand dollars, if I calculate 100 dollars, then it will be seen that my loss is more than 100 rupees. This is how I think about Bitcoin, which is why I never gamble with Bitcoin, rather I prefer to gamble with virtual dollars. Since we have alternatives, we should always use alternatives.
Using bitcoin when transaction costs are increasing, like now, makes many people avoid it and prefer to use altcoins or even stablecoins for gambling. This saves more on transaction costs so that they can use more or the same money as before to gamble. And you're telling the truth about preferring to use altcoins or stablecoins over bitcoin. It's better to keep the bitcoins rather than use them for gambling. But I still often use bitcoin for gambling and in times like now, I prefer not to gamble until everything returns to normal. If I wanted to gamble, I would also choose TRX or XRP or USDT because the transaction costs are still low.

You are right. Gamblers have different reasons and some of them are superstitious beliefs.
Like me, I always think that I am luckier when I am using Litecoin and until now I feel the same way. I deposited BNB 2 weeks ago and it's rekt. I deposited Ethereum a week ago and it's also rekt.
But one time I received a tip from another gambler through Litecoin and I made it to a decent amount that was ready for withdrawal. The tricky part is, I didn't do it just once but twice already in my gambling history.
This is what made me think that I had more luck using that certain coin and now I am a superstitious believer too. Grin
It is true that one of the big reasons why I don't want to use Bitcoin is the transaction fees and it's a waste of Bitcoin that I want to keep as an asset only.

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November 19, 2023, 12:00:42 PM
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I have never used Bitcoin to gamble, even though I will think of such is not now that the transaction fee is high, I prefer crediting my preferred sports sites wallet with the help of my bank mobile app, if consider using Bitcoin now when I lose, the lose will affect me in different ways, it will start from the transaction fee, let's say is a 50$ that I used to place the bet, if I convert both the transaction fee and the fund itself in my country currency, it will be very huge amount of money that would have solved so matter for me if I utilize it well, I can not take the risk of using my bitcoin for gambling because I didn't get it in a platter of gold, so won't joke with it.

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I don't use bitcoins for gambling because if I lose gambling and if I lose bitcoins because of losing I think more money will be deducted from my account than the amount I will lose gambling. I like to invest in Bitcoin but I don't like to sell or use my investment for any other purpose. Let's say I gambled and lost $100. At the time I gambled and lost $100, Bitcoin was worth $30,000. But after a few days, when the price of Bitcoin will go to 35 thousand dollars, if I calculate 100 dollars, then it will be seen that my loss is more than 100 rupees. This is how I think about Bitcoin, which is why I never gamble with Bitcoin, rather I prefer to gamble with virtual dollars. Since we have alternatives, we should always use alternatives.
Using bitcoin when transaction costs are increasing, like now, makes many people avoid it and prefer to use altcoins or even stablecoins for gambling. This saves more on transaction costs so that they can use more or the same money as before to gamble. And you're telling the truth about preferring to use altcoins or stablecoins over bitcoin. It's better to keep the bitcoins rather than use them for gambling. But I still often use bitcoin for gambling and in times like now, I prefer not to gamble until everything returns to normal. If I wanted to gamble, I would also choose TRX or XRP or USDT because the transaction costs are still low.

Yeah that's why I'm thinking to avoid using it for a short while since I can't afford to pay such huge fee for just depositing some amount in my casino wallet. For a short while a just explore another alts since I like to avoid paying extra fees just to gamble. Maybe for now USDT is my best option since volatility can't hurt us and it gives us convenient while market is so congested and painful. I'd better prefer to hold bitcoin for now than pushing something that I can't afford to get. And I believe many gamblers especially those small time players will shift to other coins to since same as I they can't afford to pay huge fee each time they want to deposit. TRX and XRP is also good solution but let see what will happen to bitcoin these days.

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November 19, 2023, 01:51:57 PM
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You are right. Gamblers have different reasons and some of them are superstitious beliefs.
Like me, I always think that I am luckier when I am using Litecoin and until now I feel the same way. I deposited BNB 2 weeks ago and it's rekt. I deposited Ethereum a week ago and it's also rekt.
But one time I received a tip from another gambler through Litecoin and I made it to a decent amount that was ready for withdrawal. The tricky part is, I didn't do it just once but twice already in my gambling history.
This is what made me think that I had more luck using that certain coin and now I am a superstitious believer too. Grin
It is true that one of the big reasons why I don't want to use Bitcoin is the transaction fees and it's a waste of Bitcoin that I want to keep as an asset only.
It's okay if you feel lucky using certain coins and if I could also be like you, it would certainly be very fun Grin
So we both can feel the same thing Grin
But maybe later I will try to follow what you do. Who knows, maybe I will also get lucky like you and can win big so I can get lots of Litecoin.
That's the point if the casino has other coins besides bitcoin so that it can make it easier for gamblers to gamble. But unfortunately, few casinos have exchanges within their casinos. Hopefully, the current casino sites can add exchanges to their casinos so that we can exchange them for other coins.

Yeah that's why I'm thinking to avoid using it for a short while since I can't afford to pay such huge fee for just depositing some amount in my casino wallet. For a short while a just explore another alts since I like to avoid paying extra fees just to gamble. Maybe for now USDT is my best option since volatility can't hurt us and it gives us convenient while market is so congested and painful. I'd better prefer to hold bitcoin for now than pushing something that I can't afford to get. And I believe many gamblers especially those small time players will shift to other coins to since same as I they can't afford to pay huge fee each time they want to deposit. TRX and XRP is also good solution but let see what will happen to bitcoin these days.
They have other options at times like now, where they don't need to gamble and choose to hold their coins. But if they still want to gamble, altcoins and stablecoins are a choice. But for now, I prefer to refrain from gambling because looking at market conditions, it seems like restraint is the best for me. Besides, this is good for me so I can train my self-control not to gamble for a while. After conditions of the market gradually recover and bitcoin transaction costs can decrease drastically and return to normal, maybe I will return to gambling.

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in these days when the price of cryptocurrencies, particularly the price of bitcoin was the currency that rose the most in price, I could see how important it is to analyze the altcoin market well if you think about playing using altcoins, because now for example in that the price of bitcoin has risen a lot, we can see that the price of altcoins has fallen a lot in relation to the btc pair - alts, only manage to have a small price increase in relation to the US dollar, so if a person decides to play using altcoin without first do a lot of research to find out about the history of this same altcoin and how the cryptocurrency market is currently doing

so this person will go through situations in which he will be very angry and frustrated because he will deposit 100$ in altcoin for example, with good bankroll management, he expects to make 10 bets, with 10$ in each bet, so in the first one day he bets on 4 games and loses, leaving him with a bankroll of $60, he leaves the casino to relax and the next day when he enters the casino he sees that he only has a bankroll of $40 and when he goes to do research on the price of the altcoin in which he he is using it to make a bet, he finds out that the altcoin he uses to make a bet has fallen a lot because of some bad news about the project

At that moment the person has already lost $20 and may continue to lose due to the fall of the altcoin and we all know that when a crypto project has very serious bad news, the price of the altcoin falls very quickly, which is why in my opinion the ideal is to use USDT to place bets, the minimum usdt withdrawal amount on stake.com is very low, as expected from the best casino on this market. The person can deposit in usdt and place bets and will not have to worry about high withdrawal values that have been seen in other casinos. To get an idea of how the benefits are very good at stake.com, the minimum usdt withdrawal amount is 2.50 USDT and the fee is just 1 USDT. I see this being very advantageous. the person avoids fluctuations

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November 19, 2023, 05:47:27 PM
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whereas using usdt on the tron network is much cheaper and faster, so in a few deposits i can save time and a few dollars.
This is bullshit, from the last year until now, USDT in TRC20 charge for $2. If you're using Tron, the transaction fee could be free as long as you have enough bandwidth.

Exchanges charges $1 to $1.3 when withdrawing USDT TRC20, while sending them from non-custodial wallet maybe much more expensive

Previously when we used to withdraw USDT to the gambling site via the Trc20 network, it cost less than 0.25$ fee but now for some time, it detects around 2 dollar fee in the form of trx. So using USDT to deposit often in gambling sites is not feasible at all.

It is still feasible considering the current transaction fee of Bitcoin. Aside from that, USDT TRC20 is way faster to get confirmed and credited than BTC except for those casinos that does not need any confirmation to credit our BTC deposits.  But if we really wanted to have cheaper tx fee, and faster confirmation, I would suggest Dogecoin, LTC and TRX to be used.  They are way cheaper and faster than USDT and Bitcoin.

I think maybe not everyone keeps their bitcoins, there are still some gamblers who might still use their bitcoins to gamble and multiply their bitcoins in gambling, usually rich people often do that even though the bull market is running, they only focus on gambling and can have lots of bitcoins from the gambling they play.
Don't forget many rich gamblers also lose, maybe more of them are in lose. But since they have a business or high paying job, they can easily recover their losses in gambling.

Well, it's a personal choice if anyone has a lot of bitcoins and wants to bet with them to increase the quantity of bitcoins, While this may be fruitful but the risk of losing those bitcoins is also there.
I would not gamble my bitcoins to get more bitcoins. This is not a wise approach. Perhaps I can gamble with limited money only for entertainment purposes but I won't put my bitcoin savings in gambling.

I believe the high risk of gambling will never be fruitful unless a person hits a lottery jackpot.  Since the result of gambling is random and mostly affected by luck, with the advantage of the house because of house edge and how the game result is designed like in slots,  gambler will more likely lose their fund than winning.  This kind of result can never be called fruitful regardless of what cryptocurrency a person is using, IMO.
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November 19, 2023, 05:55:43 PM
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I have selected other crypto, as I usually deposit only those cryptocurrencies that have quick transactions. For me Bitcoin is either to slow, or to expensive. Instant transactions cost a lot, but when I gamble, I dont like to wait until transaction gets confirmed. Mostly my gambling sessions are short; 30-60minutes max. And waiting 30-60minutes for confirmation is not acceptable for me.

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November 20, 2023, 01:31:39 PM
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I don't use bitcoins for gambling because if I lose gambling and if I lose bitcoins because of losing I think more money will be deducted from my account than the amount I will lose gambling. I like to invest in Bitcoin but I don't like to sell or use my investment for any other purpose. Let's say I gambled and lost $100. At the time I gambled and lost $100, Bitcoin was worth $30,000. But after a few days, when the price of Bitcoin will go to 35 thousand dollars, if I calculate 100 dollars, then it will be seen that my loss is more than 100 rupees. This is how I think about Bitcoin, which is why I never gamble with Bitcoin, rather I prefer to gamble with virtual dollars. Since we have alternatives, we should always use alternatives.
I have never thought of it this way but if Bitcoin is viewed as a currency then when you gamble with Bitcoin or gamble with any of your other funds but both are your funds.  It may also happen that if you invest the fund in bitcoins without gambling bitcoin, the bitcoins will not be lost. If I actually consider from your point of view, if you lose by gambling, then your funds that could have been invested in bitcoins, so Bitcoin will also loss if I consider this point. But in gambling it may happen that you gamble with bitcoins and win and your bitcoin amount increases several times. I mean basically anyone can play whatever they like but gambling with stable coins makes things a little easier for me.
I think that bitcoin should not be gambled as gambling involves risk and holding bitcoin for long term investment can yield huge profits. Gambling involves capital risk and the expectation of future profits aim gambling is usually a short lived activity while bitcoin investment can be good here there is no fear of losing funds. There is no need to despair even if the price drops if you wait patiently the price of bitcoin will increase several times. Also gamblers have negative expected returns on average and in the long run.
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November 20, 2023, 01:38:37 PM
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Back in the day I use to use bitcoin as I thought it was the fastest way to grow my stash, but because of a couple of losses and putting into consideration its value I prefer to use a denomination that am more familiar with which is either the Fiat -dollar or use tether as a way to manage my risk and know the true value of how much am winning or losing. Not forgetting with high transaction fees using Bitcoin isn't attractive as most bookies/Casinos pass this cost on to the user and not the house.

Mostly my gambling sessions are short; 30-60minutes max. And waiting 30-60minutes for confirmation is not acceptable for me.
Relatable!

And with these ordinals at play, getting next block transactions require paying a premium when it gets to using want fastest confirmation times

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November 20, 2023, 01:44:44 PM
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^

You choose your own asset to deposit to the gambling site, so why should the gambling site pay the commission for your deposits/withdrawals?

Currently, the commissions in the Bitcoin network are so high that using this cryptocurrency for gambling becomes impractical. I am sure that if the Bitcoin network becomes more and more congested, gambling providers will stop using it altogether.

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November 20, 2023, 04:22:17 PM
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The affordable amount to deposit plays a huge role also. Making a deposit of $100 and spending $10-15 just to have it appeared quicker on casino balance is much different from depositing $100k and paying a hundred just to start gambling as fast as possible. For me, it does not matter what will be the withdrawal commission, but the time required to get my deposit on the balance is most important to me. Because while I wait, I can change my mind and postpone playing.

Current Bitcoin transaction situation remind me the same situation with expensive transactions in ETH during DeFi/Dex trend. Few were able to afford using platforms. Now, few use Bitcoin for gambling. I think Bitcoin in general is not suitable for gambling. Gambling industry needs cheap and quick blockchains.

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November 20, 2023, 05:03:12 PM
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^

You choose your own asset to deposit to the gambling site, so why should the gambling site pay the commission for your deposits/withdrawals?

For the record, I haven't seen, heard or read about any gambling site that will charge you to deposit funds onto their platform unless they have their own exchange rates which could lead to a slight difference with what was deposited.

Secondly, when a gambling site chooses to pay for transaction fees when players are making withdrawals then it becomes a feature that could help invite new players and keep the old players without having to be afraid of high transaction fees when wanting to take out funds.

Currently, the commissions tx fees in the Bitcoin network are so high that using this cryptocurrency for gambling becomes impractical. I am sure that if the Bitcoin network becomes more and more congested, gambling providers will stop using it altogether.
Agreed, Gambling with bitcoin is impractical at the moment because of the high fees, and also makes perfect sense to use altcoins with practical & affordable tx fees that have short waiting times too.

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