Why do you want to play on casinos without KYC requirements?

[junder]

For some people they are not comfortable when their identity is known when playing online gambling, especially since there are many cases of hacking targeting online platforms, they are worried that their identity will be hacked and traded online and that threatens their privacy, maybe that is a factor why they prefer to use gambling platform without KYC. But for me personally, I don't really have a problem when my gambling platform asks for KYC, because the gambling platform I use is quite popular and the security is quite good, moreover they have been regulated in several countries so it is quite safe in my opinion.

Yes of course everyone has their own worries in themselves especially when it comes to their personal data, and of course as you said that is why some gamblers choose to move to other platforms that can be accessed without having to do KYC, it's because of their fears, while on the other hand it is not uncommon for several cases to occur about some people who are victims of misuse of their personal data by other irresponsible people.

Actually, KYC can be a problem because of the level of concern from gamblers, and I think that's a normal thing because it involves someone's personal data. KYC can be harmful and it can still be safe it depends on you yourself in choosing a casino in my opinion, like what you did, maybe for you KYC is not too problematic because you choose a casino that has a high enough popularity and has also been trusted for a long time, that's good advice and maybe some people can follow your way to choose the right casino even though you have to do KYC but with a high level of trust in the casino I think it is unlikely that your personal data will be misused by other parties because trusted casinos will usually have tighter security.

[tsaroz]

The risk of providing KYC is your data could be misused. Either directly from the one asking or due to mishandling and hacks. Theft of identity and thousands of complicated situation arising from it.
And with the crypto and gambling most people do want to stay anonymous for personal and legal reasons.
Even in my jurisdiction, gambling with crypto is a gray zone, I have never paid taxes on gambling profits and I don't want my government to know about it and providing KYC would make it easier for the government to blanket prosecute every users.

[0t3p0t]

I was thinking about this question over the weekend and I cannot seem to find legitimate reasons why people would want to play at casinos that do not require KYC verification.

1. KYC requirements reduce money laundering.
2. KYC requirements reduce under age gambling.
3. KYC requirements increase the possibility to hold people to account for their actions. (Exploiting casino systems)
4. KYC requirement reduce scamming
5. KYC requirements can be used to restore accounts after it has been hacked. (Using the documents that were used by the original owner)
6. KYC requirements adhere to government regulations and legitimize a casino.
7. KYC requirements can be used to reduce gambling addiction. (Identifying people that self-excluded or people trying to create new accounts)
8. KYC requirements can be used to enforce regional gambling restrictions.  

Why would you want to avoid being identified, if you gamble legally and if you are not a criminal? Let's discuss the reasons why KYC are not advantageous for the gamblers and casinos?

Ps. I am playing Devil's advocate... if you did not notice it. 

I am not against KYC requirement in gambling but the thing is our privacy and security. When there is a data breach our personal information will surely be compromised. KYC is good to be honest as it prevent the possible money laundering and scammers or any other illegal activities within gambling sites and or facilities.

[Rabata]

I was thinking about this question over the weekend and I cannot seem to find legitimate reasons why people would want to play at casinos that do not require KYC verification.

1. KYC requirements reduce money laundering.
2. KYC requirements reduce under age gambling.
3. KYC requirements increase the possibility to hold people to account for their actions. (Exploiting casino systems)
4. KYC requirement reduce scamming
5. KYC requirements can be used to restore accounts after it has been hacked. (Using the documents that were used by the original owner)
6. KYC requirements adhere to government regulations and legitimize a casino.
7. KYC requirements can be used to reduce gambling addiction. (Identifying people that self-excluded or people trying to create new accounts)
8. KYC requirements can be used to enforce regional gambling restrictions.  

Why would you want to avoid being identified, if you gamble legally and if you are not a criminal? Let's discuss the reasons why KYC are not advantageous for the gamblers and casinos?

Ps. I am playing Devil's advocate... if you did not notice it. 

I am not against KYC requirement in gambling but the thing is our privacy and security. When there is a data breach our personal information will surely be compromised. KYC is good to be honest as it prevent the possible money laundering and scammers or any other illegal activities within gambling sites and or facilities.

KYC plays an important role in suppressing any illegal activities. Although Crypto Casino was intended as a gambling platform without KYC, many miscreants are taking advantage of this opportunity, which is one of the reasons for breaking the peace order for any country. KYC plays an important role to get rid of such situations. Moreover, KYC has also been made mandatory as per the laws of the country. If there is no misuse of KYC information then I don't think it will be too much of a problem for anyone but otherwise there is a risk of gamblers losing their information.

[uneng]

Why would you want to avoid being identified, if you gamble legally and if you are not a criminal? Let's discuss the reasons why KYC are not advantageous for the gamblers and casinos?

If I were underage or lived in a country where I couldn't have access to any casinos in a legal way, due to them banning every customers from my country, of course I would want to avoid being identified and I wouldn't consider myself a criminal for that reason. Maybe towards the law and the local moral code I would be considered one, but there are universal values which go beyond local rules, that might be moral, but not ethical. A good example of this is the fact that to persecute jews in Nazi Germany was considered moral, and those who didn't do this were considered traitors and criminals.

So, if someone is called a criminal for going against a moral code, while following an universal one, in order to practice or fight for his freedom, let them call you a criminal... It doesn't mean anything pejorative against you, after all.

[Yatsan]

I was thinking about this question over the weekend and I cannot seem to find legitimate reasons why people would want to play at casinos that do not require KYC verification.

1. KYC requirements reduce money laundering.
2. KYC requirements reduce under age gambling.
3. KYC requirements increase the possibility to hold people to account for their actions. (Exploiting casino systems)
4. KYC requirement reduce scamming
5. KYC requirements can be used to restore accounts after it has been hacked. (Using the documents that were used by the original owner)
6. KYC requirements adhere to government regulations and legitimize a casino.
7. KYC requirements can be used to reduce gambling addiction. (Identifying people that self-excluded or people trying to create new accounts)
8. KYC requirements can be used to enforce regional gambling restrictions.  

Why would you want to avoid being identified, if you gamble legally and if you are not a criminal? Let's discuss the reasons why KYC are not advantageous for the gamblers and casinos?

Ps. I am playing Devil's advocate... if you did not notice it. 

I am not against KYC requirement in gambling but the thing is our privacy and security. When there is a data breach our personal information will surely be compromised. KYC is good to be honest as it prevent the possible money laundering and scammers or any other illegal activities within gambling sites and or facilities.

KYC plays an important role in suppressing any illegal activities. Although Crypto Casino was intended as a gambling platform without KYC, many miscreants are taking advantage of this opportunity, which is one of the reasons for breaking the peace order for any country. KYC plays an important role to get rid of such situations. Moreover, KYC has also been made mandatory as per the laws of the country. If there is no misuse of KYC information then I don't think it will be too much of a problem for anyone but otherwise there is a risk of gamblers losing their information.

KYC procedures has its own importance but we cannot blame gamblers who are against it simply because they are conscious of their personal information which is on the other hand could really be at risk. On my end, I’m fine following KYC requirements as long as it is on trusted gambling sites. The only thing which pushed me to do so is the idea that a reputable platform won’t throw its reputation just for the sake of IDs and names of small time gamblers unless private keys are included. From being here in this industry for years, fortunately I haven’t encountered any problem concerning KYC procedures. But of course this should not be an excuse for us to take extra caution of sending informations especially to new gambling platforms.

[bitzizzix]

KYC (know your customer) can indeed help identify and prevent illegal activities such as money laundering by criminal elements, terrorism financing and so on, and that is a reason that may make sense.
However, most gamblers don't like KYC because they are worried that their identity will be misused and it makes them feel uncomfortable because anything can happen and with this they anticipate and try as much as possible not to avoid it.
And I am not against regulations using KYC, and I will also continue to use gambling platforms without KYC because and whatever the reason, I don't want undesirable things to happen.

[FinneysTrueVision]

1. KYC requirements reduce money laundering.
2. KYC requirements reduce under age gambling.
3. KYC requirements increase the possibility to hold people to account for their actions. (Exploiting casino systems)
4. KYC requirement reduce scamming
5. KYC requirements can be used to restore accounts after it has been hacked. (Using the documents that were used by the original owner)
6. KYC requirements adhere to government regulations and legitimize a casino.
7. KYC requirements can be used to reduce gambling addiction. (Identifying people that self-excluded or people trying to create new accounts)
8. KYC requirements can be used to enforce regional gambling restrictions.  

None of this is actually true. KYC doesn't reduce money laundering, it just makes it possible to attach an identity to a crime. Criminals usually think a few steps ahead and aren't using their own documents for verification. Non-KYC casinos can just ban a player if they are aware of suspicious activity.

None of the other arguments in the list hold much weight either. KYC only reduces privacy for law abiding gamblers and the data collected can be used against them. It makes them susceptible to identity theft, targeted attacks, and unwarranted surveillance.

[len01]

what I understand at the moment is that it all depends on each individual goals, when someone who really cares about their anonymity they will always avoid KYC and refuse to do KYC, but for gamblers who dont really care about anonymity they can do KYC even if its because they have to. like some people who may already really believe in the casino site which has more high trust and find it difficult to accept other casinos, of course they will do KYC just to be able to gamble on the site and there are also people who register at a casino that requires KYC because of work demands. campaign.

still, it all depends on each individual, but I personally choose to do KYC to avoid something happening like what the OP wrote.

Isn't it weird that they care too much about anonymity though? I get it you're on the Internet but the government and your ISP already knows who you are so how are we going to be that paranoid about our anonymity when there's already people that knows us and there's no person here that's totally off the grid so I don't see why worry about anonymity. I think that the only reason why people want no KYC casinos is because they don't trust anyone and a lot of them are probably money launderers or at least mules of money launderers so they want less flak on them as much as possible. You can't really blame the people who advocate for no KYC casinos as there are scum casinos that will sell your data to a third party which are often malicious in nature.

its not unusual when someone is more concerned with anonymity because we dont know what they are thinking and what they are planning and the most important task for me is just to respect any differences of opinion from other people so if someone prefers to reject casinos that use KYC I will not giving any criticism because it is his choice and what I know is that I will do what is best for myself and other people do what is best for that person.

regarding casinos that sell customer data to third parties to commit crimes until now maybe sometimes I worry about this but I will always entrust my worries to myself as long as I do KYC at  reputable casino and I dont do anything bad that does not will occur.

[Litzki1990]

KYC verification is not a problem in countries where gambling is not considered a crime but gambling from countries where gambling is a crime will never want to gamble with KYC verification. If gambling is done with KYC verification from a country where gambling is completely illegal, then the person has a high chance of being caught and if caught for this crime, he can be jailed for several years.  Basically considering this aspect, many people do not like KYC verification in gambling. 

You have raised several points about the advantages of gambling with KYC verification, these points are certainly important, especially in countries where gambling is not banned, but in countries where gambling is illegal, successful gamblers will never want to do KYC verification.How safe do people who gamble through Telegram app find this gambling game? I think this type of gambling is totally risky so every gambler should be careful from this type of gambling. Telegram usually has a lot of scams so I don't trust any events or news coming from Telegram. If money has to be risked then I am ready to risk maximum money on any other platform or anywhere else but I will never take such risk on Telegram because I don't want to be cheated knowingly.

[madnessteat]

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In my opinion every person on earth has their own views on privacy, anonymity and gambling so they should have a choice - to play in casinos that are in a jurisdiction that requires money handling businesses to make users undergo KYC, or to play in a casino that does not comply with such a requirement.

I am not some kind of criminal but I believe that no one has the right to look into my pocket without my permission - be it the government or some other organization.

[Saisher]

I am not some kind of criminal but I believe that no one has the right to look into my pocket without my permission - be it the government or some other organization.

Unfortunately, they do have the right as long as you have the privilege to use all the government-funded projects to make a living and have a license to drive on the road and if you violate what's on their constitution they can order the court to yield everything you had, you are not a land where you don't care about everything you will be liable and made to follow what they instruct.
If you don't want them to snooze on what you have then don't use any of their facilities and their platforms, this is the reality and we are made to comply with it.

[ethereumhunter]

I am not some kind of criminal but I believe that no one has the right to look into my pocket without my permission - be it the government or some other organization.

Unfortunately, they do have the right as long as you have the privilege to use all the government-funded projects to make a living and have a license to drive on the road and if you violate what's on their constitution they can order the court to yield everything you had, you are not a land where you don't care about everything you will be liable and made to follow what they instruct.
If you don't want them to snooze on what you have then don't use any of their facilities and their platforms, this is the reality and we are made to comply with it.

Not using a platform that we don't like is the best way and in fact, we have many casinos that still allow us to gamble without needing to do KYC. But to be able to gamble without KYC, we also have to know ourselves and only use a little money, which could make the casino suspicious. Just imagine if there was someone who had just joined for 3 days and then deposited a lot of money, for example, $3000 to gamble. The casino will be suspicious of where he got that much money from, and the casino will confirm this by carrying out KYC because with the money, the gambler might be able to win as much as $100 or more. The casino only follows the procedures given by the regulator and tries to comply so that the casino does not experience any problems.

[wiss19]

The risk of providing KYC is your data could be misused. Either directly from the one asking or due to mishandling and hacks. Theft of identity and thousands of complicated situation arising from it.
And with the crypto and gambling most people do want to stay anonymous for personal and legal reasons.
Even in my jurisdiction, gambling with crypto is a gray zone, I have never paid taxes on gambling profits and I don't want my government to know about it and providing KYC would make it easier for the government to blanket prosecute every users.

Can't the same thing happen when we complete KYC verification at cryptocurrency trading platforms? Since most of us use centralized exchanges for the features and products they offer which can't be found in decentralized exchanges, we are compelled to complete our KYC verification there and we don't get our hands back in that matter, why hesitate to do it on a cryptocurrency gambling platform? The regulations are the same for both industries as far as I know.

If someone is afraid that their data can be misused or mishandled, they should only join the most reputable and trusted platforms and gamble with them so that they don't have to worry about their data being misused or mishandled but as time goes by, the requirement for KYC will keep becoming more and more necessary and users will eventually have no choice but to comply with the rule.

[Unbunplease]

If the casino does not use KYC when withdrawing funds, then personally I have more desire to use the services of this casino, as it gives more guarantees that the data will not get to the tax authorities, that the funds will not be frozen due to sanctions or other bureaucratic delays

[arimamib]

The risk of providing KYC is your data could be misused. Either directly from the one asking or due to mishandling and hacks. Theft of identity and thousands of complicated situation arising from it.

This is actually the reason for the need to provide KYC at gambling in countries where gambling is legal. Casino is under the rule to protect our identity. the safety of our money is more secured with KYC. if there is any harm to your identity or asset, you can make a report to the police or any other legal institution. What you said is only the cases for people who live in a country who ban gambling.

And with the crypto and gambling most people do want to stay anonymous for personal and legal reasons.
Even in my jurisdiction, gambling with crypto is a gray zone, I have never paid taxes on gambling profits and I don't want my government to know about it and providing KYC would make it easier for the government to blanket prosecute every users.

Staying anonymous is a choice that has consequences like no tax, but when things go complicated, you cant make complain when it gets mishandled or hacked.

I think if you play with big bets you better provide KYC, unless you play small bets for fun.

[RockBell]

The risk of providing KYC is your data could be misused. Either directly from the one asking or due to mishandling and hacks. Theft of identity and thousands of complicated situation arising from it.
And with the crypto and gambling most people do want to stay anonymous for personal and legal reasons.
Even in my jurisdiction, gambling with crypto is a gray zone, I have never paid taxes on gambling profits and I don't want my government to know about it and providing KYC would make it easier for the government to blanket prosecute every users.

I think the main reason is that people want to protect their anonymous profile and the company having access to your data i know is part of their policy, its personal if you don't like kyc then you go for gambling sites that don't require KYC  even me am not a fan of kyc and their is a lot of reasons people don't like kyc but they feel if anything should go wrong illegally they will find it much more easier to trace the offender. With kyc they have given the government full access to tackle anything, anybody. Not that anyone his into anything but everyone is just trying to protect their data.

[Latviand]

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its not unusual when someone is more concerned with anonymity because we dont know what they are thinking and what they are planning and the most important task for me is just to respect any differences of opinion from other people so if someone prefers to reject casinos that use KYC I will not giving any criticism because it is his choice and what I know is that I will do what is best for myself and other people do what is best for that person.

Sure we don't know what they're thinking but we can have an unreliable deduction that most of them are probably going to be doing something shady so they don't like the idea that they have to give away their information, it doesn't make sense to be anonymous on the Internet anymore because I am sure that when you're connected to the Internet, your government probably already knows about you especially if you already have the social security or a registered voter or have a driver's license. Only way that someone can truly be anonymous if you go off the grid.

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regarding casinos that sell customer data to third parties to commit crimes until now maybe sometimes I worry about this but I will always entrust my worries to myself as long as I do KYC at  reputable casino and I dont do anything bad that does not will occur.

Reputable casinos aren't immune to this problem because there's a possibility that an employee will do the leak without the company's knowledge or there's a weak link employee that the hackers that want your data will exploit, it's easy to send someone an email that contains a malware to hijack the computer especially if you know how to social engineer efficiently.

[vv181]

The whole KYC requirement to combat AML or meet regulation requirements is actually just an option. There is a casino that is less strict regarding identity verification and there is one that requires a thorough identity verification before the user is able to play. We can not force a casino that wants to meet its regulation needs and comply with any applicable policies to ignore their user to play unidentifiably within their site. After all, the people have the decision whether on what kind of casino they would to play. They are also not being forced.

regarding casinos that sell customer data to third parties to commit crimes until now maybe sometimes I worry about this but I will always entrust my worries to myself as long as I do KYC at  reputable casino and I dont do anything bad that does not will occur.

Reputable casinos aren't immune to this problem because there's a possibility that an employee will do the leak without the company's knowledge or there's a weak link employee that the hackers that want your data will exploit, it's easy to send someone an email that contains a malware to hijack the computer especially if you know how to social engineer efficiently.

Note that some casino do share their data without necessarily committing a crime. They might have an agreement regarding data usage. Moreover, Data security practices especially sensitive user data are handled carefully and not regular employees are able to access it. Indeed there is a potency of data mishandling or hacks, but if someone truly has paranoia about their data being stolen or hacked, why would they commit a KYC verification in the first place?

[Weawant]

Privacy is usually the basics and primary reason most persons would wan to get away with KYC because no only will you information be possibly leaked, some casinos use it as an excuse why they withhold back some big wins won by their clients so basically why stress with a casino that requires KYC when there's others who doesn't.

Some persons of high caliber and personalities who gamble for reasons best known to them wouldn't want that aspect of their lives publicised so they prefer staying anonymous while gambling because they are scared after KYC their details will be out there in the public in situations where the site probably gets hacked. But then I don't see KYC as been necessary enough to be troubled about so I still prefer gambling without KYC so my preference if basically for security and privacy.