Vod vs OgNasty - document production phase

[Quickseller]

I get it, Vod thinks OgN is a scammer, and OgN denies this. OgN thinks that Vod is a bad guy, and Vod implicitly denies this.

Now that we know each person's position, I really think you both should leave each other alone. There are plenty of other things to talk about around here. I know that others in the community feel the same way.

Theymos is an advocate for free speech. He is not going to censor posts based on something benig untrue.

[Vod]

I did not take any forked coins from the treasury that I wasn’t explicitly told to take. I did however not get paid the forked coins I was owed using the same logic. Someone did steal forked coins related to the treasury, but it wasn’t me…

Let's stop the childish name calling and criticizing my good deeds.  I returned what theymos asked for, even though I had no obligation to do so with the forks and I did it quickly with a positive attitude.  It was a good deed and I feel I went above and beyond by never complaining for missed back pay, and always doing whatever I was asked.

As for your accusations, I did nothing wrong. I can use my private keys however I want and I lived up to my end of the treasury agreement perfectly. The person who didn’t was theymos, who went years without paying me and then didn’t compensate me for the forked coins I missed out on while I gave him the forked coins I didn’t have to according to our agreement, but who cares about reality right?

Edit:  QuickSeller, stop spamming the same information.

[Vod]

Here are more versions of what happened with the forked coins.

So the stolen are the forked coins?

Nope. Those were sent to theymos too. Except the ones that were valueless and theymos didn’t want sent back, which are still sitting at the address because it isn’t worth my time to deal with.

How come are we now only hearing about this theft? Because that is alot of coins.

That’s because it didn’t happen. Anyone can look up the address and see that I sent the full 500 BTC back. If you look the address up on various block explorers you can see where I also sent the forked coins as requested. I wouldn’t have received positive trust from theymos had I mishandled the treasury funds.

EDIT: The address is public where I held the funds: 1Eog8UqRFLufC71rBLt2nYgfUDskgxAyVF

You can see below 500 BTC was received on 3/22/2013 and I sent 500 BTC to the new multi-sig treasury address on 5/25/2019.
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1Eog8UqRFLufC71rBLt2nYgfUDskgxAyVF

So the bold part explains why Theymos recently stopped trusting OG - he keeps contradicting himself.  He seems anxious to want to hold Theymos responsible for something - hopefully he can figure out what that is.  :/

[The Sceptical Chymist]

What the pretend detectives on this site should really be worried about if they want any credibility whatsoever, is what happened to the thousands of BTC that myself and others donated to this forum that were allegedly wasted developing vaporware.

Well, that's a separate--and somewhat interesting--issue.  I assume you're referring to the New Forum Software that was recently abandoned, and if that's the case I'd say there was probably a lot of money wasted, but there was never any guarantee given to the donators that their funds would be used for that or anything else in terms of forum development, much less a guarantee of success.  It's a separate issue and it also looks to be you trying to deflect everyone's attention away from Vod's accusations.

Theymos is an advocate for free speech. He is not going to censor posts based on something benig untrue.

That seems to be the case on this forum, true.  However, if OgNasty did rip Theymos off you'd think Theymos might either chime in or try to resolve the problem out of the public eye.  In either case, I doubt OgNasty would be left free to spread misinformation....but who the hell knows?

Vod, this beef with OgNasty has been going on a long time.  There have been a lot of threats on your part.  If you've got solid evidence of wrongdoing and can do something about it, please go ahead and do it if only to get this monkey off your back.

[Vod]

If you've got solid evidence of wrongdoing and can do something about it, please go ahead and do it if only to get this monkey off your back.

OgNasty has provided conflicting accounts of his actions so until he submits his sworn defence statement we don't know exactly what crime he has committed.   Embezzlement?   Theft?   Fraud?   He claims to be in finance so he is probably calculating his least probable crime.  

It is nice he pretends to ignore me so I can contain everything in one section.

One of the first hypocritical PMs I got from bozo:

I guess the difference is that I do what I feel is right regardless of how it may effect me, and you appear to be having your true opinions silenced out of fear. So forgive me if I take your criticisms with a grain of salt.

If you have any PMs from his alt "Rmcdermott927", take a new look now that you know who he is.  He negative trusted me by default (unconditionally even lol) then wanted me to explain to him what I did.  

I’m not taking anyone’s side unconditionally.  You messaged me with no links and no proof and then expected me to read though days worth of babbling.

OK, was not aware of that, sorry.  I thought you knew what had happened last night.

The moderators have already removed all the proof.  But he is now calling me a self-admitted pedophile because I sent him that link when he was pretending to be my friend..  

I'd like to know what I can do to make you trust me just enough to turn your negative to a neutral in time.   It was six months ago, and Theymos does want forgiveness and peace...

I don’t know what the facts of the situation really are.  I also don’t care enough to read through weeks worth of back and forth banter.   So if you could lay out clearly what happened and how exactly OG doxxed you.  Also some proof of when you sent him that link, because I don’t see a date.

OgNasty escrowed several deals with his alt Rmcdermott927, just like Quickseller did.

[Vod]

buckrogers - I noticed your change in trust from the BPIP log.   You may not be aware, but OgNasty and Rmcdermott927 are the same person.

I know OG pretends to ignore me, but maybe Rmcdermott927 could confirm/deny?

Anyone who has been scammed by OgNasty in the past few years like this should contact me. 

Rmcdermott927 is back, attempting to escrow scam again.   This hopefully removes the pesky two year limitation from anyone else that wants to sue this bozo.

[yahoo62278]

buckrogers - I noticed your change in trust from the BPIP log.   You may not be aware, but OgNasty and Rmcdermott927 are the same person.

I know OG pretends to ignore me, but maybe Rmcdermott927 could confirm/deny?

Anyone who has been scammed by OgNasty in the past few years like this should contact me. 

Rmcdermott927 is back, attempting to escrow scam again.   This hopefully removes the pesky two year limitation from anyone else that wants to sue this bozo.

Has it been confirmed the OG is Rmcdermott927? If so, OG participated in meriting his alt when he created that thread. Nothing can be done about it now really, but makes ya wonder what else he might have done.

[Vod]

buckrogers - I noticed your change in trust from the BPIP log.   You may not be aware, but OgNasty and Rmcdermott927 are the same person.

I know OG pretends to ignore me, but maybe Rmcdermott927 could confirm/deny?

Anyone who has been scammed by OgNasty in the past few years like this should contact me.  

Rmcdermott927 is back, attempting to escrow scam again.   This hopefully removes the pesky two year limitation from anyone else that wants to sue this bozo.

Has it been confirmed the OG is Rmcdermott927? If so, OG participated in meriting his alt when he created that thread. Nothing can be done about it now really, but makes ya wonder what else he might have done.

I have the proof of the timestamp of the PM I sent to OG and the timestamp of the reply to my PM from RC.  Once I mentioned that literal fact RC left the forum, only to return to sell worthless coins.  So no, it's not confirmed - we just need to wait for OG to confirm/deny it - OG's words are the ones that did all the damage, not his alt.  

[Vod]

I have the proof of the timestamp of the PM I sent to OG and the timestamp of the reply to my PM from RC.  Once I mentioned that literal fact RC left the forum, only to return to sell worthless coins.  So no, it's not confirmed - we just need to wait for OG to confirm/deny it - OG's words are the ones that did all the damage, not his alt.  

Both OG and RC are hiding, so I doubt we will get clarification.  However, a second person has contacted me about a "slack slipup" RC made when OG was escrowing for him.   I guess it will be up to the community to decide if providing no protection at all is an escrow scam.  Does it matter if the escrower is the same person as the buyer, or just chatting with the buyer?  No protection, but an extra service fee for OG.  :/

[Quickseller]

Theymos is an advocate for free speech. He is not going to censor posts based on something benig untrue.

That seems to be the case on this forum, true.  However, if OgNasty did rip Theymos off you'd think Theymos might either chime in or try to resolve the problem out of the public eye.  In either case, I doubt OgNasty would be left free to spread misinformation....but who the hell knows?

I'm pretty sure that there were posts about asking for OgN to either be banned or for his posts to be removed based on false information. But I am unable to find those posts now. If someone is saying something inaccurate about him, theymos might chime in to correct the record, but I don't think he would censor the posts by removing the inaccurate content.

I don't think Rmcdermott927 is the same person as OgN, although I could be wrong. IIRC, Rmcdermott927 ran some kind of casino at one point, which requires a specific expertise that I don't believe OgN has.

[Vod]

I don't think Rmcdermott927 is the same person as OgN, although I could be wrong. IIRC, Rmcdermott927 ran some kind of casino at one point, which requires a specific expertise that I don't believe OgN has.

I agree with you.   From the evidence I've received, RC uses OG for an escrow for the extra fee without extra protection.   In my mind, it is no different than you using a different account to escrow your own deals - you got punished but everyone ignored when OG did it, because he was set up on default trust by Theymos.  :/  Of course we do not have OG's side of the issue yet; hopefully he will explain why he was scamming escrow fees.

[Quickseller]

I don't think Rmcdermott927 is the same person as OgN, although I could be wrong. IIRC, Rmcdermott927 ran some kind of casino at one point, which requires a specific expertise that I don't believe OgN has.

I agree with you.   From the evidence I've received, RC uses OG for an escrow for the extra fee without extra protection.   In my mind, it is no different than you using a different account to escrow your own deals - you got punished but everyone ignored when OG did it, because he was set up on default trust by Theymos.  :/  Of course we do not have OG's side of the issue yet; hopefully he will explain why he was scamming escrow fees.

I don't think I quite understand the specific allegation you are making. Here you are saying they are the same person. You seem to repeat that claim here in this thread.

I also don't have any details of any specific transaction. But unless there was a specific promise not fulfilled by RC or OgN, it really is not a scam.

[Vod]

I don't think I quite understand the specific allegation you are making.

That's quite ok.  The proper people understand - my educating days are over.  

Locking while awaiting legal response.

[Vod]

OG was served his lawsuit on Aug 9.  He has two months to file his defence.

[Vod]

One month left until we can start recovering stolen coins.   Someone else may be suing him as well:

I don't know what the solution is, but I know that carrying a lawsuit around a bar showing you're being sued for 10 million dollars results in blowjobs like you wouldn't believe.  Maybe try that if you're having difficulties.

[JollyGood]

Correct me if I am wrong but as far as the forum is concerned, is this the first time one member has served legal documents on another? Keeping aside the details related to the case, if the documents were served on 9th August 2025 it is somewhat of an historic moment/date related to the forum. I am unaware of any other member of the forum suing another.

OG was served his lawsuit on Aug 9.  He has two months to file his defence.

One month left until we can start recovering stolen coins.   Someone else may be suing him as well:

[Vod]

Correct me if I am wrong but as far as the forum is concerned, is this the first time one member has served legal documents on another?

I could only find threats and plans, but I'm not surprised - from my PMs and what I've read, people believe a lot of myths about lawsuits.  Another thing I hope to educate others on. 

[OgNasty]

Correct me if I am wrong but as far as the forum is concerned, is this the first time one member has served legal documents on another? Keeping aside the details related to the case, if the documents were served on 9th August 2025 it is somewhat of an historic moment/date related to the forum. I am unaware of any other member of the forum suing another.

It's the first case I've ever heard of where someone tries to blame a stranger's internet posts for their stroke and then asks them to pay an 8-figure sum.  It was honestly difficult to find a lawyer who was willing to respond to such a frivolous case.  Most of them advised me to ignore it saying it is clearly going nowhere and expressed disappointment that any lawyer was willing to file such a thing.

Still, I apparently hurt his feelings pretty badly and I guess he feels like spending a few bucks to inconvenience me, so it is what it is.  

I see from your post he is claiming that he's going to start, "recovering stolen coins."  Nothing could be further from the truth as there are no stolen coins and his lawsuit mentions nothing about stolen coins (obviously since they don't exist as I have never stolen anything).  Ironically, that libelous statement alone is more worthy of a lawsuit, but I'm not a bitch.  Instead of getting into another 6 year long argument about who is lying, maybe I should auction off the documents so people can see for themselves and have an opportunity to help financially support fighting this shameful lawsuit?  As you said, the legal documents are a forum first.  

[khaled0111]

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Vod and OgNasty’s replies next to each other! I haven’t seen this for so long!
Og, what you are doing doesn’t seem right. If you have anything to say to Vod then just address him directly.

ps: If you have him in ignore then you shouldn’t have posted here at all.

[yahoo62278]

^^
Vod and OgNasty’s replies next to each other! I haven’t seen this for so long!
Og, what you are doing doesn’t seem right. If you have anything to say to Vod then just address him directly.

ps: If you have him in ignore then you shouldn’t have posted here at all.

The rest of us stopped replying as we have lost interest. Now we just watch and see what happens, so it's no surprise they are the only 2 really chatting. I think it's probably wiser if there is an actual lawsuit for OG to not post for legal reasons, but he is his own man.