Gambling Casinos with Online and Offline version, Are they the same?

[Kakmakr]

OK, I guess by "Offline" version you mean a physical casino or what they call a "Brick n Mortar" casino... right? The main difference between the two types of casinos are the games that are on offer and how these games are controlled.

The games in a "Brick n Mortar" casino usually consist of a bunch of Slot machines and some table games... and these machines are not easily "re-configured" ....so manipulation of the RTP and other variables are a more complex process.

The games in an Online casinos are not that complicated and many of the original in-house games can be "configured" by the local casino developers. The third party slots will change certain parameters on their games at request from the customer, but this does not happen regularly... they usually sign an agreement before they "rent" access to the games.  

[3kpk3]

I think the most disappointing thing about offline casinos is that they are trying to be offline but at the same time, digitized.

Let me explain what I mean with an example : you go into a casino in Las Vegas and sit down to play slots. Except the machine won't accept change or dollars, it only accepts pre-paid deposits on some BS membership card. Later you decide to try Blackjack, but you quickly learn that the Blackjack table is now a computer screen on a different machine. All this is very disappointing and different from how you remember the casino experience, even a decade ago.

You decide to go home and gamble on your own computer screen. The end.

At least, that is how I feel about the current state offline gambling casinos.

I don't blame them though for updating their systems in this manner because they are just trying to keep up with the latest trends which is why you cannot expect them to stick to old fashioned blackjack tables etc.

We might get completely digital blackjack tables, Baccarat tables etc at these offline casinos in the future.

[dimonstration]

The games in a "Brick n Mortar" casino usually consist of a bunch of Slot machines and some table games... and these machines are not easily "re-configured" ....so manipulation of the RTP and other variables are a more complex process.

The games in an Online casinos are not that complicated and many of the original in-house games can be "configured" by the local casino developers. The third party slots will change certain parameters on their games at request from the customer, but this does not happen regularly... they usually sign an agreement before they "rent" access to the games.  

Well explained. In addition, Brick n Mortar/IRL Casino slot games has lower RTP compared to slot games on online casino since they have slot games on IRL casino that has an RTP that can go below 90% which is very rare to online casino since most of the slot provider in online has a very low RTP because they have less operating cost compared to IRL casino that pays for electricity and and other physical bills.

What I don't understand here is who audit this slot provider in online casino to guarantee fairness of their RTP because AFAIK that they are not covered by the Curacao license. This is the big question I have in mind because Brick n mortar slot games has undergo on physical audit it release to the public.

[Saisher]

What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof because they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.

[Bushdark]

What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof because they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.

We mostly get scammed online esily that is why online casinos keep coming out everytime looking for new gambling that would be giving them traffic frequently to increase the growth of the casino. Whatever we are doing, we should make sure that we get satisfaction from it so that we don't come back and complain later for mistake that we make ourselves.
Whatever category we prefer whether online or offline casino, we need to get result which is what will keep us going and betting more to make more winnings.

[Lanatsa]

What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof because they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.

We mostly get scammed online esily that is why online casinos keep coming out everytime looking for new gambling that would be giving them traffic frequently to increase the growth of the casino. Whatever we are doing, we should make sure that we get satisfaction from it so that we don't come back and complain later for mistake that we make ourselves.
Whatever category we prefer whether online or offline casino, we need to get result which is what will keep us going and betting more to make more winnings.

You would really be able to avoid all the hassles and the possibility of able to encounter some shitty casino/betting platforms if you do really just that simply stick into those reputable ones rather than on making yourself that engaging into t hose new ones and it doesnt matter whether it would really be that offline or online then it wont really be that hard to find out about their legitimacy.If you are really that seeing some
similar names then having some research wont really be that much of an issue because if you do find yourself that something interesting then it would really be just that normal that you would really
be making up some confirmation on the things that you are dealing with.

Similar names? Offline and online? Making some clear information should really be your main priority because if you do miss out on doing so then you might really be that able to make a step
on which it would really be resulting into having some headaches just because you've been experiencing some issues which are supposedly to be that be able avoid if you do make
just things to be right or you have done your own research first before you do make some deposits.

[Slow death]

I believe that what happens is that the casino that has sponsored important leagues, important teams, are in different countries providing services accepting local currencies from that country and even have company headquarters in several countries, they will not scam people because they have licenses different respecting each country, they need to have their identities revealed to operate in different countries, unlike an online casino that only has a Curacao license and operates only on the internet and its owner is anonymous and can deceive and steal people's money, the casino that wants to operate in several countries around the world using local currencies from that same country, it needs to acquire a casino license from that country

and countries like my country for example, will ask that the casino has a license from my country so that the casino accepts local currency from my country and has a physical office, this was the case with 1xbet in my country they have a license from my country and have a physical office in my country and has a telephone number. You can see his address in my country:



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Yes, these scammers have a physical office in my country and sponsor my country's football league. I honestly don't know how many people in my country use this casino scam, but it is a fact that they are sponsoring big clubs and are in many countries and there are no cases of scam accusations coming from these clubs that they sponsor. In other words, the big clubs they sponsor did the necessary research and signed partnership agreements and are not complaining about this scam casino, they were smart, they keep creating other scam casinos and avoid links with the main casino. and with that the big scammer ( 1xbet  ) continues to operate

[Wiwo]

What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof. After all, they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.

The thing is that both online and offline casinos when it comes to reputation what differentiates them is just the determination of the team to stay consistent with the handling of issues and build a good reputation for themselves.

I have seen where an online casinos settle issues on time and since as long that they are licensed it becomes equal to them to be able to be called out just like the physical casinos,  so I don't see any difference between the online casinos and physical one when it comes to handling issues that may arise along the line.

[Dunamisx]

What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof because they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.

We will probably be mistaken when we consider that online gambling are the ones that always have the openness for scam related activities and assumed that the physical casinos are less involved in this, scam is what we can't predict how, where or who can engage in making such attack or those that will be heavily affected from the attack as well, as long as it is humanbeing who were involved in this, they can do and undo.

[bakasabo]

I would say that I prefer online gambling, as it somehow equals all the gamblers (the difference is only their banks and strategies). In offline gambling, some gamblers have advantage over other. Like they can read their behavior, or analize their strategy based on their balance (in case we play poker), or people can influence others (for example in situations where one people are mentally stronger thab others).

[piebeyb]

I would say that I prefer online gambling, as it somehow equals all the gamblers (the difference is only their banks and strategies). In offline gambling, some gamblers have advantage over other. Like they can read their behavior, or analize their strategy based on their balance (in case we play poker), or people can influence others (for example in situations where one people are mentally stronger thab others).

I agree with you that online gambling is indeed easier to use than offline gambling, even though I am in a country that prohibits gambling, of course it is very difficult for me to try offline gambling games in casinos, of course I also can't easily find a casino that is clear in my country which is considered gambling. as illegal so no offline casino that I have ever encountered has ever tried to gamble there. if there is maybe I will try to share my opinion.

Just seeing on television, it is true that offline gambling is quite easy to read someone's behavior and influence someone directly, maybe for me it would be difficult to beat my opponent if they could read my style of play, for example in poker games, fortunately I have never tried offline gambling, to be honest I prefer online gambling than offline gambling.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I would say that I prefer online gambling, as it somehow equals all the gamblers (the difference is only their banks and strategies). In offline gambling, some gamblers have advantage over other. Like they can read their behavior, or analize their strategy based on their balance (in case we play poker), or people can influence others (for example in situations where one people are mentally stronger thab others).

Comparing online and offline gambling casinos in the context you talked about in your comment is a matter of choice, I personally do not think any of better than the other in general, it all depends on which one chooses to use, like here in my country, there are people who do not own a smart phone, not to talk of owning a gambling, and as such, they do not have access to the internet, such persons will Everly prefer to play on offline casinos even if you refer them to an online casino, this is because, offline casino is what they are already used to.

But notwithstanding, we aren't discussing online and offline casinos in the context you took it from, we are talking about their reputation majorly, because like I said in the op, I noticed that some online and offline casino under the same brand seems to have different reputation, like the offline version having a good reputation while the online version have a bad reputation, why such a thing happens, is that we are discussing.

[Odusko]

I would say that I prefer online gambling, as it somehow equals all the gamblers (the difference is only their banks and strategies). In offline gambling, some gamblers have advantage over other. Like they can read their behavior, or analize their strategy based on their balance (in case we play poker), or people can influence others (for example in situations where one people are mentally stronger than others).

Even in poker, I don't see the possibility of the fact that one player is stronger and balanced in mentality to have an undue advantage over his opponent,  and not in this context that the discussion is based on what the ops are trying to bring to light is the aspect of the casino systems and how probably fair there are and how much reputation their build over time.
So the comparison is between online casinos and offline casinos, and the basis for the argument is how much reputation they both exhibit and what makes players choose them as their preferred choice destination to gamble on, so far from the players aspect as you mentioned in your statement, but if you want us to start up a discussion in the direction you mentioned then you can start up a thread and let discuss that because I know poker games even though it technical sometimes but at least it can easily be won by luck also.

[tjtonmoy]

If the offline version is that much reputable then the owner behind it must be doing the maintenance on his own while he must have appointed a different group who are capable to operate into online section. Also, there's the fact about age range. Most people who are gambling online are those who knows how to deal with internet. They are much younger. There could be people who are older, but the amount is low when it comes to gambling online.

And when it comes to offline casinos, you can find mixed aged people there. Providing same kind of services could have different outcome in this situation. Maybe the age difference. Or maybe they are providing two kind of services in two different platforms. Also, there could be this mentality where they think that they have achieved success in one platform and should focus on that one only. Or maybe something else.

[Porfirii]

If the offline version is that much reputable then the owner behind it must be doing the maintenance on his own while he must have appointed a different group who are capable to operate into online section. Also, there's the fact about age range. Most people who are gambling online are those who knows how to deal with internet. They are much younger. There could be people who are older, but the amount is low when it comes to gambling online.

-snip-

It depends on the country where you live. I think that in most developed countries, thanks to advertisements in different platforms (TV, social media) I think that almost anyone can gamble online, except vary rare cases of very old people. Today we have Apps almost for everything, and those casinos that are only reachable via web aren't much harder to find either.

[Doan9269]

Or maybe we should start by going with what we ourselves want, the particular taste in what we want gives us more interest in going for them because they are our choice, gambling is both enjoyed online and in the physical depending on the kind of condition we found ourselves with or the way we decided to go with it, they can also both have little similarities and the games could be quite different for sure on how they play them.

[khaled0111]

Do you, by any chance, mean local/provincial and global/international casinos instead of offline and online casinos?
Well, the main reason why people trust the local version of a casino is because they can meet the local owners and talk to them face to face any time they want. Local owners can't just take your money and dissappear just like that. Besides, those casinos have to comply with local laws and regulations which are usually more strict.
Another reason, is that the main company (global casinos) don't pay the winnings of the local casino's players. Local owners pay gamblers.

[a581aa]

If you have the option and are involved in frequent and substantial financial transactions, offline casinos might be a more suitable choice. For online casinos, the selection of the platform is crucial. In most online platforms, you might find that there are no limits to how much you can lose, but winning even slightly more can bring about various issues and obstacles

[n0ne]

Different names from the same service provider. This is kind of marketing to overcome the negative feedback come for a platform. Maybe this could help the sister concern develop in some countries, but this continues to be a negative factor till the accusations were resolved. When we play on local domain/betting shops those shop owners just use the service of the particular platform same as having a food franchise. The settlement will be done from the shop owners part and his responsible work keeps them on profit and with good reputation against the online version with big number of accusations.

[robelneo]

If yes, then why is it that in terms of trust, they appear to be so different?

I will give you guys two examples.

My first example is 1xbet.com
   Over here in my country, we have a local domain for this casino which is known as either ng.1xbet.com or 1xbet.ng, I want to believe that the global domain is 1xbet.com.

Just to clarify the domain 1xbet.ng has this on their homepage

This website is owned and operated by BEAUFORTBET NIGERIA LIMITED, which operates under license №: 0001018 dated September 12, 2019 issued by the National Lottery Regulatory Commission of the Republic of Nigeria.

there's a possibility that they are a franchisee of 1XBET, since they are using the same script as 1xbet.com and since they are operating with exclusivity in Nigeria they are bound by the laws and regulations of the Nigerian government, so any complaint can be directed to the regulatory commission of Nigeria, not any country where the mother company is operating.

Now, here is the thing, here in my country, we trust 1xbet to be one of the most reputable gambling and betting platform, Infact, there are hundreds of thousands of betting agents scattered all over the states in the country that are directly affiliated with this casino, and millions of gamblers all over the country patronize them.

But coming back to the online version of 1xbet, we learn that the same company that founded 1xbit-(a casino proven to be operated by scammers), is the same company that founded 1xbet, and for this reason (I suppose) 1xbet can't be trusted, and many online gamblers advice other gamblers online to stay away from 1xbet, meanwhile, offline, this casino is highly trusted.

The Nigerian version is an affiliate by means of a franchise and is dedicated to Nigeria so any complaints and action should be addressed to the Nigerian commission
so they have different statuses and this version if they scam the Nigerians will be prosecuted by the Nigerian commission