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December 06, 2023, 04:59:51 PM
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It could be. If the bad guys were in charge of Sinbad, that explains why they were quickly trusted enough to send them millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin. Pretty much anything can be used for good or evil, but starting a business for evil is very different than a legitimate business being abused.
Didn't google started with motto Don't be evil, and they later removed it for unknown reasons, so I guess they are now allowed to be evil  Tongue
We could also argue that banks and whole military industrial complex started with evil intentions, yet I don't see many people talking about that, because government is behind them.
I have to say that it's very convenient when you have invisible hackers and terrorists to blame them for everything.

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December 06, 2023, 09:07:46 PM
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I believe theymos have learned about the Sinbad dirty act and how they will always come up with a new business name and website to use good people's funds to hide their dirty funds is the reason why he wants the promotion or conversation about the mixer to end next year.
Sadly, a lot of decent people who utilize their services will suffer harm.
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December 06, 2023, 11:09:36 PM
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I think there is no need to delete about Sin Bad in the forum if it will not cause anything to the forum or forum members here, logically in this forum that has cooperation with Sin Bad, someone who works with Sin Bad has no problems, because of them Just like working to get wages, without knowing how the background of the Sin Bad company itself, and monitor their activities in real time every day.

Just like other marketing projects, both bounty, sigcamp or other services. It might be if they confirmed the mixer, and they claimed that marketing in this forum, and when the authorities conducted research in this the forum, but they did not find evidence and only met him in the archive, I thought it would be complicated finally.

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December 07, 2023, 04:48:20 AM
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Is this forum not going to be in danger if authorities trace transactions with services they have sanctioned down to this forum?

Maybe this is nothing, either way, consider me being over curious and conscious  Grin.
This forum is a marketing place, if you think about it when using other forums or other social media, such as twitter, facebook, will the authorities blame facebook or twitter because they facilitated the marketing of the mixer project? I think also the campaign manager verified the mixer project first before they brought it here to be marketed, this will be difficult because what initially had a good vision of the project mission changed at a certain time into something harmful and or illegal actions.

So I think the forum will not have any problem if the authorities investigate the Sinbad case to this forum. IMO

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December 07, 2023, 08:09:50 AM
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Now, my concern is, wouldnt it make sense to remove the Sinbad escrow address from this forum? And also remove anything that could make it easy for authorities to trace transactions from that address to this forum, and it's users?
Remove why? Do we have to hide anything? People hide things when there is something wrong done and want to hide traces because they know they did something illegal and are going to get punished for that. By hiding traces, e.g. removing Sinbad escrow address from this forum, I think bitcointalk declares that it's guilty too while it isn't as we all know. Moving thread in archival was the best decision.

Well if the problem is about getting dirty money, why not ban using Bitcoin as a payment method and give them the chance to pay in altcoins?
They want to ban bitcoin but they can't. Now is the time when bitcoin is very popular and many businesses are built around it, tons of money is invested in bitcoin and with the help of its decentralized nature and independence from 3rd parties, governments understood it's better to integrate instead of separate. They are integrating and have a huge progress in analyzing of bitcoin blockchain. That's all they wanted, they gain control on transactions, they can track transactions and blockchain is open book, every transactions is placed on blockchain. They control everything and that's all they wanted. We know that governments launder money via banks but they can play with bitcoins too with the implementation of bullshit AML score. You just mark unwanted transaction as a bad one and you mark your favourite transaction as a good one, easy to launder when you are the one who judges and sets AML scores.

From an Elliptic.co blog post in February:
This is a very interesting link. It shows Sinbad received bad money even before they started. It looks more and more like they weren't "a good site also used by bad people", but they were "a bad site that needed good people to hide their bad money"! If that's the case, they had it coming. But taking down this site won't change anything except for slowing them down. Long-term, they'll continue elsewhere.
As much as I like privacy, I don't like criminals. And especially criminals who abuse good people's need for privacy to hide their own crimes.
I think this is not something new. Even Bitmixer owner admitted that many people were using his mixer for illegal transactions and asked other people to not create bitcoin mixers. He said something like this: Will you sell knife if you know that majority of your customers are murderers? My pastor said no. Every mixer that becomes famous ends up being a tool mostly used by criminals. Every mixer had a higher volume of illegal transactions compared to transactions that were done by those who care about their privacy, we can't deny that.

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December 07, 2023, 09:59:13 AM
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Dude, what are you talking about? You should proofread your texts before publishing them, or something. I can barely understand what you're saying.

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