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May 16, 2024, 06:59:33 PM
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To me it is just a matter of understanding. If the post Ph understand themselves and know when to gamble and know when not to gamble do the writing at the right time it will really help them on managing their home because gambling is something that can cause a lot of problems and a lot of debts if you are gambling addict so it is always possible if they understand itself, and in the other hand, if they lack understand it, they will be much problem between them because it will be a very big risk to their home management

Both spouses can easily combine work, household, child rearing, gambling and other entertainment, if they have a desire to have a strong family and they are responsible people. If they are not, they will find problems without gambling, because we know many stories when spouses who have never been into gambling, divorce, have problems with outstanding debts, etc. Everything depends on the spouses themselves and their goals, not on gambling.

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May 16, 2024, 07:45:39 PM
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To me it is just a matter of understanding. If the post Ph understand themselves and know when to gamble and know when not to gamble do the writing at the right time it will really help them on managing their home because gambling is something that can cause a lot of problems and a lot of debts if you are gambling addict so it is always possible if they understand itself, and in the other hand, if they lack understand it, they will be much problem between them because it will be a very big risk to their home management

Both spouses can easily combine work, household, child rearing, gambling and other entertainment, if they have a desire to have a strong family and they are responsible people. If they are not, they will find problems without gambling, because we know many stories when spouses who have never been into gambling, divorce, have problems with outstanding debts, etc. Everything depends on the spouses themselves and their goals, not on gambling.

It all depends on the objectives they have as a family.If they want their bank account to grow for example they should come down to the same point that is,quit gambling and every money they want to allocate for gambling to deposit them in their recurring bank account and this way they will have more money than usual because they would have quit the gambling money.Now to do this is extremely difficult and that is why as a start they can begin by playing like 100 to 50 dollars a month,getting this sum down every time they gamble until it remains small like 5-10 dollars for fun and then quit completely.That is a good way of getting rid of gambling issues and looking after your family in a better way.

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May 16, 2024, 07:54:45 PM
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To me it is just a matter of understanding. If the post Ph understand themselves and know when to gamble and know when not to gamble do the writing at the right time it will really help them on managing their home because gambling is something that can cause a lot of problems and a lot of debts if you are gambling addict so it is always possible if they understand itself, and in the other hand, if they lack understand it, they will be much problem between them because it will be a very big risk to their home management

Both spouses can easily combine work, household, child rearing, gambling and other entertainment, if they have a desire to have a strong family and they are responsible people. If they are not, they will find problems without gambling, because we know many stories when spouses who have never been into gambling, divorce, have problems with outstanding debts, etc. Everything depends on the spouses themselves and their goals, not on gambling.

It all depends on the objectives they have as a family.If they want their bank account to grow for example they should come down to the same point that is,quit gambling and every money they want to allocate for gambling to deposit them in their recurring bank account and this way they will have more money than usual because they would have quit the gambling money.Now to do this is extremely difficult and that is why as a start they can begin by playing like 100 to 50 dollars a month,getting this sum down every time they gamble until it remains small like 5-10 dollars for fun and then quit completely.That is a good way of getting rid of gambling issues and looking after your family in a better way.
Yes this is true but if both doesnt have any plans or having those kind of point of views or those goals then they wont really be minding off with those things but instead they would really be continuing on the things that they are doing instead. We do know that when it comes to potential loses with gambling then it could really be that something that will really be wrecking up someones life without having no doubt with those probabilities.
This is why it should really be taken up responsibly or else you would really be messing up your life with and with your family. If both husband and wife are involved on gambling and doesn't really stop on what they are doing then just let them be, as long they arent that compromising their financial savings or conditions then it would be just fine. Issues would really be needing up to be addressed on the time that it is really that compromising something. Thing here is that both should really be that aware on what they are doing and completely stop if they've seen that they are really that spending tons on which it comes into a point
that its not already that ideal anymore.

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May 16, 2024, 08:08:15 PM
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Both spouses can easily combine work, household, child rearing, gambling and other entertainment, if they have a desire to have a strong family and they are responsible people. If they are not, they will find problems without gambling, because we know many stories when spouses who have never been into gambling, divorce, have problems with outstanding debts, etc. Everything depends on the spouses themselves and their goals, not on gambling.

I don't really think gambling will take one away from family responsibility, not like you are going to office work where you will spend the rest of your day in the office doing all the work without having any time for even yourself. Gambling can be done in the comfort of your home, even if a woman is a gambler, it shouldn't be an objective for not taking care of family unless she's an addicted gambler that prefer to spend time with gambling than his family.

My only issue with women gambling is financial stability, most homes women are subjective to their husband and they are been taken care by their husband, so when they decide to go route of gambling, where will they be having the money to gamble, who will fund the gambling lifestyle. If she doesn't and use the family money to gamble, they will run into problems later unless she is a type that is naturally good at winning.

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May 16, 2024, 08:28:52 PM
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Both spouses can easily combine work, household, child rearing, gambling and other entertainment, if they have a desire to have a strong family and they are responsible people. If they are not, they will find problems without gambling, because we know many stories when spouses who have never been into gambling, divorce, have problems with outstanding debts, etc. Everything depends on the spouses themselves and their goals, not on gambling.

I don't really think gambling will take one away from family responsibility, not like you are going to office work where you will spend the rest of your day in the office doing all the work without having any time for even yourself. Gambling can be done in the comfort of your home, even if a woman is a gambler, it shouldn't be an objective for not taking care of family unless she's an addicted gambler that prefer to spend time with gambling than his family.

My only issue with women gambling is financial stability, most homes women are subjective to their husband and they are been taken care by their husband, so when they decide to go route of gambling, where will they be having the money to gamble, who will fund the gambling lifestyle. If she doesn't and use the family money to gamble, they will run into problems later unless she is a type that is naturally good at winning.
If I start spending too much time on gambling, I won't be able to find enough for my family, and I can't imagine having enough time for everything. Ultimately, of course, I would rather put off gambling indefinitely in order to spend all my time with my family. Although to say that this would not be true all the time, because every person should have rest and relaxation. Of course, relaxation can be replaced by other types of recreation not related to gambling, but there are those who cannot imagine their life without excitement and anticipation of victory, but they need to be careful with their desires.

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May 16, 2024, 08:53:30 PM
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I don't really think gambling will take one away from family responsibility, not like you are going to office work where you will spend the rest of your day in the office doing all the work without having any time for even yourself. Gambling can be done in the comfort of your home, even if a woman is a gambler, it shouldn't be an objective for not taking care of family unless she's an addicted gambler that prefer to spend time with gambling than his family.

My only issue with women gambling is financial stability, most homes women are subjective to their husband and they are been taken care by their husband, so when they decide to go route of gambling, where will they be having the money to gamble, who will fund the gambling lifestyle. If she doesn't and use the family money to gamble, they will run into problems later unless she is a type that is naturally good at winning.

Looks like you have not come across an addict that doesn't care about anything else but how to make wins from a bet. and addition to what your saying going to the office does not stop some individuals from gambling they can even gamble even when they are at work. and that is one of the reason we must learn to control our thirst when we gamble because from when you have you first win you would have enjoyed your self, from then you will want to gamble to see if you can win and that you start becoming an addict gradually.

for women it might be different because both men and women have different responsibility and that of a woman is always demanding. and you hardly see women that gamble since most financial responsibility is on the man they don't bother much compare to men and even if they don gamble it wont affect them taking care of there family. and with the way women deal with there funds they wont even risk to much to gambling. 

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May 17, 2024, 01:24:46 AM
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To me it is just a matter of understanding. If the post Ph understand themselves and know when to gamble and know when not to gamble do the writing at the right time it will really help them on managing their home because gambling is something that can cause a lot of problems and a lot of debts if you are gambling addict so it is always possible if they understand itself, and in the other hand, if they lack understand it, they will be much problem between them because it will be a very big risk to their home management

Both spouses can easily combine work, household, child rearing, gambling and other entertainment, if they have a desire to have a strong family and they are responsible people. If they are not, they will find problems without gambling, because we know many stories when spouses who have never been into gambling, divorce, have problems with outstanding debts, etc. Everything depends on the spouses themselves and their goals, not on gambling.
So, do you mean, or are you telling us now that household work, child rearing; are all part of entertainment? Haha, I do not believe this, but may if you mind explain further why you think this things are part of entertainment, then maybe I might change my mind.
Secondly, how can a couple find problems without gambling ?, or do you mean to say that if they don't gamble together, they will have problems? - like the man gambling on his own while the woman is also gambling on her own, if this is what you mean, then you are definitely correct.

It's a very bad practice for couples to be gambling separately, in fact, I personally don't even see reasons why couples should be gambling in the first place, since it definitely will affect the children, I prefer that the man be gambling if he likes it, while the woman takes care of the home, afterall, it Is not a woman's responsibility to fend for his family, so, what thing or means he wants to engage in to achieve this, that's up to him.

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May 17, 2024, 03:30:38 AM
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To me it is just a matter of understanding. If the post Ph understand themselves and know when to gamble and know when not to gamble do the writing at the right time it will really help them on managing their home because gambling is something that can cause a lot of problems and a lot of debts if you are gambling addict so it is always possible if they understand itself, and in the other hand, if they lack understand it, they will be much problem between them because it will be a very big risk to their home management

Both spouses can easily combine work, household, child rearing, gambling and other entertainment, if they have a desire to have a strong family and they are responsible people. If they are not, they will find problems without gambling, because we know many stories when spouses who have never been into gambling, divorce, have problems with outstanding debts, etc. Everything depends on the spouses themselves and their goals, not on gambling.
So, do you mean, or are you telling us now that household work, child rearing; are all part of entertainment? Haha, I do not believe this, but may if you mind explain further why you think this things are part of entertainment, then maybe I might change my mind.
Secondly, how can a couple find problems without gambling ?, or do you mean to say that if they don't gamble together, they will have problems? - like the man gambling on his own while the woman is also gambling on her own, if this is what you mean, then you are definitely correct.

It's a very bad practice for couples to be gambling separately, in fact, I personally don't even see reasons why couples should be gambling in the first place, since it definitely will affect the children, I prefer that the man be gambling if he likes it, while the woman takes care of the home, afterall, it Is not a woman's responsibility to fend for his family, so, what thing or means he wants to engage in to achieve this, that's up to him.

I agree, It's not a good practice that both couple are participating in gambling activities because they will be neglected a lot in their marriage, just like neglecting their children and not handling finances properly, if they both gamble, there is a big chance that their relationship will be messed up because once they both experience a big failure, there will be everyone is involved, it's like a domino effect and in the end, their children will be affected even more by their negligence. There is nothing wrong if they both know how to gamble, but since they have responsibilities in life, they should manage their time and actions well because one wrong move, everything they have worked hard to build can end up in vain.



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May 17, 2024, 06:50:05 AM
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I agree, It's not a good practice that both couple are participating in gambling activities because they will be neglected a lot in their marriage, just like neglecting their children and not handling finances properly, if they both gamble, there is a big chance that their relationship will be messed up because once they both experience a big failure, there will be everyone is involved, it's like a domino effect and in the end, their children will be affected even more by their negligence. There is nothing wrong if they both know how to gamble, but since they have responsibilities in life, they should manage their time and actions well because one wrong move, everything they have worked hard to build can end up in vain.
By avoiding or stopping their gambling activities, the couple will see that they can have more money to save. They can manage their finances by saving money to prepare for their future. Realizing that gambling doesn't guarantee they can win is what can give them more money to save.

If they just want to have fun, they don't need to gamble. They can do other things that don't require them to use money to get that pleasure. They can also learn more about their responsibilities.

When they can start to reduce their gambling activities slowly, they will find that they have more positive activities they can do. This will make them realize that they don't need to gamble. They will also not experience financial difficulties because they can learn to save money.

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Well to me, if the boot of them is understanding themselves and they are making money out of it the most important thing is understanding the most learn how to understand themselves and keep some rules to gamble when it’s not necessary, but sometimes it does not work this way if it’s a situation where we are to choose the person to stop gambling. I think it should be the wife because women are emotional. They can take anything they have to put in because of getting back what they have lost. Yes, anybody can be emotional, but the woman should quit.



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May 24, 2024, 05:26:12 PM
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If it has come to that situation where the man and the wife gamble, the family is already in a big mess. It doesn't matter who influences who but this is already a disorder in the family. A father gambling in a family is manageable as the household will still be managed by the wife but both of them out of the house to gamble is not good. Both have to quit and look into what they prioritize.
Exactly the point that have in mind, i have being imagining how the family will look like, or the nature of the family when husband and wife are gamblers or probably if they are pure addicts. Even when the man alone is gambling, and he is an addict the family is not always stable because he spends most of his money that are meant for domestic use to gamble not to talk of when the wife is a gambler too. i have not seen such family though but i know for sure that there will be no peace in that family, and it is very possible that the children will follow them to gamble too. We understand the fact that life is very hard, and most people gamble to make money, but it is very absurd for both husband and wife to gamble just for the sake of money and considering who to quit as you asked @op, i will sincerely suggest that the woman should quit because women have that tendencies and that natural charisma to influence their children than the men. so, i suggest that the woman should step down for the man for peace to exist that family.

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May 24, 2024, 05:39:25 PM
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Well to me, if the boot of them is understanding themselves and they are making money out of it the most important thing is understanding the most learn how to understand themselves and keep some rules to gamble when it’s not necessary, but sometimes it does not work this way if it’s a situation where we are to choose the person to stop gambling. I think it should be the wife because women are emotional. They can take anything they have to put in because of getting back what they have lost. Yes, anybody can be emotional, but the woman should quit.

On an emotional sense I think the wife should quit for the sake of the kids. As for the husband he is meant to hold a reputable gambling attitude one that shouldn't affect the financial state of the home. Most especially the harmony and love in the family can be removed by addiction. It's risky for both spouses to participate in gambling. The aim of gambling is to be focused on fun not money. Family is first and not gambling. If both are responsible gamblers they'll be no much problem with any of them quiting.

As you added, they need to be watchful of one another and learn ways to avoid ruining their home with a gambling sense. They could be each other's financial adviser regarding gambling. Being observant of how much goes into gambling will help them stay in check of their habit. On the long run it would be safe for both parties in terms of avoiding addiction. As each one of them would carefully gamble not to piss off their spouse. In a case where one gets compulsive it's proper to help the family by stopping the compulsive spouse from further gambling activities.

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May 24, 2024, 06:19:48 PM
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It all depends on the objectives they have as a family.If they want their bank account to grow for example they should come down to the same point that is,quit gambling and every money they want to allocate for gambling to deposit them in their recurring bank account and this way they will have more money than usual because they would have quit the gambling money.Now to do this is extremely difficult and that is why as a start they can begin by playing like 100 to 50 dollars a month,getting this sum down every time they gamble until it remains small like 5-10 dollars for fun and then quit completely.That is a good way of getting rid of gambling issues and looking after your family in a better way.

I can understand what you are saying in this post, especially regarding the content of this thread which says about a family who likes gambling. The point is as you said, it all depends on their goals, especially those related to gambling. Overall, I understand and agree with what you said. Talking about the contents of this thread, especially if a husband and wife both enjoy gambling, it feels quite risky to cause problems. unless a family is one that has abundant financial resources, and perhaps their activities related to gambling will not have an impact on their basic needs. What's more, if they can manage the money they spend. plus, hide the activities they do from their children. If that's the scenario, I think everything is fine and we definitely have the same rights. but it turns out that if the conditions are the opposite, if that is possible, these two people must stop their gambling activities, this is done for the good and integrity of a household. the impact is not a financial problem, but other effects on children. things like this should not be ignored.

That's why, understanding gambling is important. If it is difficult to do it instantly, due to active gambling, addiction factors, or so on, someone must be aware of it first so they can move on to the next stage. One simple example, as you said, is that they can start playing with the smallest bankroll according to the limit they allocate each month. slowly reduced, then until the stage stops completely. yeah, the points you say can be said to be a simple way to try to eliminate habits which, if left unchecked, can destroy harmony. It's not just separation that awaits, but the child's future could be at stake.
Unfortunately, it's not as easy as we say. However, with strong determination and intention, every process that is carried out correctly will produce good results. ideally, gamble for fun and don't involve money that is not for gambling. If your husband and wife really like to gamble, bet wisely so as not to interfere with things you don't want. The point is, everything must be conceptualized and rules must be created so that gambling activities will not disturb or even cause problems in the future.


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May 24, 2024, 06:35:46 PM
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So, do you mean, or are you telling us now that household work, child rearing; are all part of entertainment? Haha, I do not believe this, but may if you mind explain further why you think this things are part of entertainment, then maybe I might change my mind.
Secondly, how can a couple find problems without gambling ?, or do you mean to say that if they don't gamble together, they will have problems? - like the man gambling on his own while the woman is also gambling on her own, if this is what you mean, then you are definitely correct.

It's a very bad practice for couples to be gambling separately, in fact, I personally don't even see reasons why couples should be gambling in the first place, since it definitely will affect the children, I prefer that the man be gambling if he likes it, while the woman takes care of the home, afterall, it Is not a woman's responsibility to fend for his family, so, what thing or means he wants to engage in to achieve this, that's up to him.

I agree, It's not a good practice that both couple are participating in gambling activities because they will be neglected a lot in their marriage, just like neglecting their children and not handling finances properly, if they both gamble, there is a big chance that their relationship will be messed up because once they both experience a big failure, there will be everyone is involved, it's like a domino effect and in the end, their children will be affected even more by their negligence. There is nothing wrong if they both know how to gamble, but since they have responsibilities in life, they should manage their time and actions well because one wrong move, everything they have worked hard to build can end up in vain.

True, and one of the things that is a concern is when they have started to feel problems in the family's financial situation which is usually when in a family there are economic problems due to lack of income or for any reason that makes it difficult for them to make ends meet then usually various other problems will arise such as losing harmony in family relationships and also as you said that they might neglect their children, or there is also a possibility for them to vent all their anger on their children.

If this problem is not stopped immediately or if a solution is not found then there is obviously a high possibility for them to end up in divorce. On the other hand as we know that gambling is an activity that requires all gamblers to allocate money and if both couples are involved in gambling then I think there will definitely be financial problems that they experience due to budget allocation on gambling regardless of whether they are responsible gamblers or not, but yes I think there is no better decision than to stop both of them to save their family relationship and also the future of their children.

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May 24, 2024, 06:54:05 PM
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So, do you mean, or are you telling us now that household work, child rearing; are all part of entertainment? Haha, I do not believe this, but may if you mind explain further why you think this things are part of entertainment, then maybe I might change my mind.
Secondly, how can a couple find problems without gambling ?, or do you mean to say that if they don't gamble together, they will have problems? - like the man gambling on his own while the woman is also gambling on her own, if this is what you mean, then you are definitely correct.

It's a very bad practice for couples to be gambling separately, in fact, I personally don't even see reasons why couples should be gambling in the first place, since it definitely will affect the children, I prefer that the man be gambling if he likes it, while the woman takes care of the home, afterall, it Is not a woman's responsibility to fend for his family, so, what thing or means he wants to engage in to achieve this, that's up to him.

I agree, It's not a good practice that both couple are participating in gambling activities because they will be neglected a lot in their marriage, just like neglecting their children and not handling finances properly, if they both gamble, there is a big chance that their relationship will be messed up because once they both experience a big failure, there will be everyone is involved, it's like a domino effect and in the end, their children will be affected even more by their negligence. There is nothing wrong if they both know how to gamble, but since they have responsibilities in life, they should manage their time and actions well because one wrong move, everything they have worked hard to build can end up in vain.

True, and one of the things that is a concern is when they have started to feel problems in the family's financial situation which is usually when in a family there are economic problems due to lack of income or for any reason that makes it difficult for them to make ends meet then usually various other problems will arise such as losing harmony in family relationships and also as you said that they might neglect their children, or there is also a possibility for them to vent all their anger on their children.

If this problem is not stopped immediately or if a solution is not found then there is obviously a high possibility for them to end up in divorce. On the other hand as we know that gambling is an activity that requires all gamblers to allocate money and if both couples are involved in gambling then I think there will definitely be financial problems that they experience due to budget allocation on gambling regardless of whether they are responsible gamblers or not, but yes I think there is no better decision than to stop both of them to save their family relationship and also the future of their children.

They wont really be stopping not until they wont really be experiencing any issues or problems in towards into their funds or savings on which on the moment that they've seen that they are still that fine
about on the condition or state then its really that unlikely that they will really be quitting up both husband and wife. There's no wrong on playing gambling as long it isnt really that compromising about the financial condition of the family on which its important that you both husband and wife is really that aware with your gambling spendings on which this is really that right or something that will be that recommended because if one of you will really be having that out of control or have lost track about their spending then the other one would really be able to give out those warnings or cautions.

The only problem i do possibly see into this kind of condition is on the time that both of you have lost of track or have both problems about your spending then this is where things becomes shit and becomes that a potential huge problem. On the moment that you would really be that addicted with gambling then it would really be that forgetting on what are those responsibilities that you have set earlier because on the moment that you are on such condition on which you are really that making yourself that being forgetting those things on which its a common situation or condition which needs to get rid of
or needs to be resolved out as much or as early as we could.

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May 24, 2024, 07:43:42 PM
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On an emotional sense I think the wife should quit for the sake of the kids. As for the husband he is meant to hold a reputable gambling attitude one that shouldn't affect the financial state of the home. Most especially the harmony and love in the family can be removed by addiction. It's risky for both spouses to participate in gambling. The aim of gambling is to be focused on fun not money. Family is first and not gambling. If both are responsible gamblers they'll be no much problem with any of them quiting.
Say that to a feminist mother and you would get the question,
Why do you get to gamble and they don't?
If you feel it's affecting the family negatively, why not go ahead and halt?

Well, this goes beyond feminism to be the bitter truth of the matter if am to stay true to my thoughts on this. Gambling isn't bad but, when your gambling habit becomes such that, it's impacting your family negatively, then it calls for you guys to take a break and see how you could handle yourself and formed habit about this activity to not impact your family negatively.

Of course one person could stop but, is it ever easy for an addict to just stop? Especially when the spouse is very much a partner to the activity. You'll both would have to call yourself to order and ensure you put your kids first, that's what parenting is about. Your kids well being should be the reason you can forgo any bad habit.
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May 25, 2024, 08:32:15 PM
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[...]if that's the case who should quit for who.
Battle of the sexes? If you're going to ask this hypothetical question then at least provide more context like who is earning more and providing most for the family expenses. It's traditionally the Father's role but if this marriage is a 50-50 then both of them has to reconsider their gambling activities. I wouldn't say both should quit if they're able to manage it to a minimum.

The question really need elements like what you ask,  it's the winning that determine who can drop for the next but they can still balance the situation without any quiting through rationalization of how they will play it even with children not been harm or lure into it all  because I have see family who parents gambling, smoke but their children don't partake on such activitiesz be if the win from the couple are always 50-50 it's going to be a serious issue where one will drop completely though it's a matter of understanding. There are some family where responsibility are share stating that the woman news drop because of the man responsibility may not be right because in the family Carey out responsibility too.

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May 25, 2024, 08:46:44 PM
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Well to me, if the boot of them is understanding themselves and they are making money out of it the most important thing is understanding the most learn how to understand themselves and keep some rules to gamble when it’s not necessary, but sometimes it does not work this way if it’s a situation where we are to choose the person to stop gambling. I think it should be the wife because women are emotional. They can take anything they have to put in because of getting back what they have lost. Yes, anybody can be emotional, but the woman should quit.
Following rules or not, it would really be just that common sense that you would be needing to set one because at the moment that you had forgotten yourself on having those kind of considerations like setting up some moderation or control towards your gambling activity then this one would really be imposing that potential problem that could damaged financial condition on which we should really be avoiding as much as we could. Although it would be impossible that both husband and wife isnt really that wary on the things that they are dealing with which is gambling, where potential loses could really be that severe and could really that making such impact in towards your family's savings on which it isnt really that worth on spending it on something that you could only get that leisure.
On the moment that both of you had become that addicted then getting out would really be a huge pain in the ass kind of problem.
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