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December 12, 2023, 10:56:58 PM
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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.
I'd like to say that Mr. Bob will gain massive profits in the end and would probably be the winner among others. However, we all know that no matter how bullish the market, bitcoin price will never move up all the time as there are chances that its price will be corrected soon. And investing all in is not a wise decision, in fact it will only add to your risk from losing.

In the end, I'd go probably with Mr. Theymos as his decision to DCA weekly is the wisest and safest thing to do. No problem if he can't make the best with this nearing bull run, there' still a lot of incomg bull runs in the next possible years. That time, he might probably gain life changing profits that will bring a lot of positive changes in his life.

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December 12, 2023, 11:09:54 PM
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Both Bob and Mr. Theymos make wiser decisions but if you ask which one of them is the wisest one I'd choose the DCA way method of purchasing Bitcoin since it doesn't involve a high risk than investing all at once.  However, the process may take longer waiting for the price until will dump to execute the DCA method because DCA spreads your investment over time, reducing the impact of short-term market fluctuations on your overall investment.  The problem here is those investors often struggle to predict optimal entry points when they're planning to invest all at once at a time.

Both are the same in gaining profit but the question of Bob, when Bob enters the market, is he an early investor?

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December 12, 2023, 11:10:26 PM
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Hmm. Tough question when looking at theymos because for theymos, it’s not about being wise but strategy. Well, the second guy is definitely not smart. Actually, he is the dumbest because he is investing $5,000 on what? Random altcoins? Waste of money. Evaluating these two, I would say the smartest person here is Mr Bob because he didnt invest in some crap he doesn’t know, and he equally doesn’t have to wait for 100 weeks (that’s actually how long it takes to DCA $10,000 at the rate if $100 every week) to completely invest his money. And if you further think about it, in that 100 days which is 1 year and 11 months, Bob may have cashed out. Grin



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 12, 2023, 11:25:20 PM
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Hmm. Tough question when looking at theymos because for theymos, it’s not about being wise but strategy. Well, the second guy is definitely not smart. Actually, he is the dumbest because he is investing $5,000 on what? Random altcoins? Waste of money. Evaluating these two, I would say the smartest person here is Mr Bob because he didnt invest in some crap he doesn’t know, and he equally doesn’t have to wait for 100 weeks (that’s actually how long it takes to DCA $10,000 at the rate if $100 every week) to completely invest his money. And if you further think about it, in that 100 days which is 1 year and 11 months, Bob may have cashed out. Grin

in my opinion, there is no concrete answer on this particular question because we don't know what the market will look like so there are so many factors in play to determine which option would be the best one. from what i understand, we are talking about profits here, right?

so if you want to really determine which one will give you the most profits, you need to consider a certain time frame and consider those 3 options and see what you will get. the option with other alts alone is quite difficult because it depends on the alt itself. the movement is also tough to predict. whereas, even if you decide to choose with btc, the variable of price itself is the factor.

but if we are talking about the risks involved, i can opt for number with the DCA method. at least you are taking action according to the market movement. on the other hand, if you go all in with btc all at once, it means, you are taking all the risks that comes with it before you cash out your btc.

also, if i may add. if a person will choose any of this type of investment. he should also consider what kind of dedication he can give into this. because if he has little to no time, of course it is easy to choose. just go for option 1. but if you have time to observe and make analysis of the market, you can go for either option 2 or 3.

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December 12, 2023, 11:33:41 PM
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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.
They have different ways, but all wise in their investment.
Mr. Bob invested in a lump sum on Bitcoin, I'm assuming the Bitcoin was bought at a lower price.
Ms. Alice knows how to diversify his assets and take a higher risk for a much higher return. We all know investing in altcoins means having a higher multiplier.
Mr. Theymos investing every week, $100 weekly, or $400 in a month in Bitcoin is profitable in the long run.

All investment is wise, they just have different ways how to initiate them. But when the bull run comes, these strategies will make an unexpected return.


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Hmm. Tough question when looking at theymos because for theymos, it’s not about being wise but strategy. Well, the second guy is definitely not smart. Actually, he is the dumbest because he is investing $5,000 on what? Random altcoins? Waste of money. Evaluating these two, I would say the smartest person here is Mr Bob because he didnt invest in some crap he doesn’t know, and he equally doesn’t have to wait for 100 weeks (that’s actually how long it takes to DCA $10,000 at the rate if $100 every week) to completely invest his money. And if you further think about it, in that 100 days which is 1 year and 11 months, Bob may have cashed out. Grin

in my opinion, there is no concrete answer on this particular question because we don't know what the market will look like so there are so many factors in play to determine which option would be the best one. from what i understand, we are talking about profits here, right?

so if you want to really determine which one will give you the most profits, you need to consider a certain time frame and consider those 3 options and see what you will get. the option with other alts alone is quite difficult because it depends on the alt itself. the movement is also tough to predict. whereas, even if you decide to choose with btc, the variable of price itself is the factor.

but if we are talking about the risks involved, i can opt for number with the DCA method. at least you are taking action according to the market movement. on the other hand, if you go all in with btc all at once, it means, you are taking all the risks that comes with it before you cash out your btc.

also, if i may add. if a person will choose any of this type of investment. he should also consider what kind of dedication he can give into this. because if he has little to no time, of course it is easy to choose. just go for option 1. but if you have time to observe and make analysis of the market, you can go for either option 2 or 3.
I assume they are investing based on the same time frame since they are investing the same amount of money too. Additionally, I think the aim of this question is about the investment strategy used, not the time. And with that, there is an answer and it’s Mr Bob who is wiser because  he went straight to Bitcoin without having to put his money where he doesn’t know or elongate the time for him to do his investment.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 12, 2023, 11:56:17 PM
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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
If they have $10,000 to invest, it is money that has been set side for this. Investing 100% of it into bitcoins and at once can be the wise choice if you understand the risk, and if you watch your entry to the market, so you can enter at a good price.

  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
50/50 for bitcoin and altcoins is not wise. Always invest more or all in bitcoins.

  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.
$100 weekly for investment funds set at $10,000 will take 100 weeks to complete. That time is too long when they money for investment is already available. Mr Theymos should have increased the amount he wants to DCA with, so he can do it within a shorter time.

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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.

I wouldn't be able to guarantee that this is the most profitable method, but If I have $10,000 just laying round and all my needs is fulfilled, then I would go with Miss Alice, 50% on Bitcoin and 50% for random altcoins, or I could change the proportion like 70% bitcoin and 30% split in some altcoins. I won't go with Bob because I like my portfolio diversified, and I only do DCA if the funds comes from my monthly salary, but if I have some big money laying around I just invest it all at once.

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In my opinion Mr. Theymos is the wisest of these three. Of course, I am not saying that my opinion alone is “correct” because each person may look at the issue from a different angle of view.

But given the strategy that I follow, I would say that DCA is the best at the present time, given that the bull market is still in its infancy and we expect a lot after the halving, so I prefer to accumulate and wait for ATH.

The market is now very volatile and trading may be very dangerous for people who do not have sufficient experience in trading, so it is best to stay away from risks.

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I think it depends on the time when you invest. Right now DCAing sounds better, but when BTC was below $20,000 it was better to invest 100% of that in it.

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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.

I wouldn't be able to guarantee that this is the most profitable method, but If I have $10,000 just laying round and all my needs is fulfilled, then I would go with Miss Alice, 50% on Bitcoin and 50% for random altcoins, or I could change the proportion like 70% bitcoin and 30% split in some altcoins. I won't go with Bob because I like my portfolio diversified, and I only do DCA if the funds comes from my monthly salary, but if I have some big money laying around I just invest it all at once.

No one can guarantee which method brings the most profit. Bitcoin is just the safest asset but it is not the most profitable asset these days. So it would be wrong if someone said that investing 100% in bitcoin is the most profitable. I will also choose Miss Alice like you, altcoins have a chance to bring bigger profits, I don't think I will miss that opportunity when the bull season is approaching. During the bull season when bitcoin can bring x3, x5 profits, altcoins will bring x10, x100 profits. So why don't we take advantage of that?

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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.
I support all three of the attitudes mentioned here. Mr. Bob who goes 100% into Bitcoin will have to wait a long time and if the market grows very fast, he will have a lot of success. On the other hand Miss Alice who goes 50% to Bitcoin and 50% to Altcoin is a very good investment strategy. For example among altcoins (Ethereum 50%) it is a very good investment. Then Mr. Theymos who invests $100 per week must invest continuously. Investing using DC is very smart.

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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.

They are all wise investors. Who is this @theymos you are talking about? Are you referring to the admin in this forum? If he is, for me, the style he makes every week is $100 via DCA.

Then how did you know that he was saving $100 in DCA every week? Did you talk to him in the inbox? I'm just asking this dude. Then the one that is 50% in Bitcoin and 50% in altcoins is also a good style, in my opinion.


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It is obvious that miss Alice doesnt really understand investing.  

If she really believes putting money into some random altcoin will pan out well, she is mistaken.  With so many altcoins around, just choosing one at random is not a smart strategy at all and  theres got to be a better way to decide which cryptocurrencies are worth buying into.  I would advise her to do some research first before throwing her money around randomly. Grin

Well, the point is that Alice is gambling not investing. But she can hit the lottery and make a x1,000 with some alt, which does not mean that she is a good investor, but that she has been lucky.

Regarding the example raised, in the OP with the other two cases, it seems to me too simplistic because it does not take into account the personal situation and other issues. For example, for me the answer of who is wiser between Bob and theymos depends on whether apart from what they invest they have an emergency fund and other assets. If Bob has a paid house and an emergency fund of 6 months of expenses, apart from what he is going to invest in Bitcoin and theymos has nothing, the wiser is Bob, but if the situation is the opposite, the wiser is theymos.

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No one can guarantee which method brings the most profit. Bitcoin is just the safest asset but it is not the most profitable asset these days. So it would be wrong if someone said that investing 100% in bitcoin is the most profitable. I will also choose Miss Alice like you, altcoins have a chance to bring bigger profits, I don't think I will miss that opportunity when the bull season is approaching. During the bull season when bitcoin can bring x3, x5 profits, altcoins will bring x10, x100 profits. So why don't we take advantage of that?
I agree with what you say, no one can guarantee the profits that will be obtained using the method that has been suggested, choosing to invest all of it in Bitcoin does not necessarily mean we will get what we have targeted and I will also choose the same as you by investing 50% of Bitcoin. and 50% altcoins that have the potential to make a profit.

I will support those who invest 100% in bitcoin because it is the safest option, but I will not agree if someone says that it is the option that gives the best returns. We can easily see and should not deny that altcoins will bring better profits than bitcoin when the bull season comes even though the growth of altcoins still depends on bitcoin. So, like you and CryptoBuds, I will also choose to invest in bitcoin and altcoins. It would be a waste if we miss the opportunity with altcoins when the bull season is approaching, which is the time when we will see projects increase hundreds of times, even thousands of times. And that won't be possible with bitcoin but with altcoins it's completely possible.

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December 13, 2023, 05:01:14 AM
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DCA is the wisest strategy. That doesn't necessarily mean Theymos will be the most profitable. Bitcoin and alts could triple in value and in that situation Theymos will be buying at a higher price while the other investors reap massive profits. If the inverse happens and there is a huge crash then Theymos will have lower losses than the rest. $10,000 is enough to DCA for 2 years. Over a long stretch of time like 5 or 10 years this strategy will have payed off because you will be better prepared for bear markets. You don't have to gamble on altcoins or FOMO into Bitcoin. Having patience is the key to a strategy that will have significant rewards.

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In current market conditions it’s not good to DCA. Since he invests $100 a week, it’s for about 2 years. If he had $20000 to invest or just DCA $50 then it would be wiser to choose him however if you DCA after the bull market started, pretty soon it will peak and you will be buying dips that keep on dipping.

Honestly I think the best would be the 50% bitcoin and rest in altcoins, since there will be one which will be a great winner and boost their portfolio. However the alts they would need to sell when the market looks toppy because it would lose more value in a bear market than holding only bitcoins.

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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.


Forget the market, forget the current situation let me tell you the fact.

Mr. Bob's playing it safe, going all in on bitcoin.

Miss Alice is taking a gamble, splitting between bitcoin and random altcoins.

Meanwhile, Mr. theymos is staying consistent with a smart DCA.

Now from above theymos is having a balanced and disciplined approach. Be like theymos.

Remember: "Bitcoin is no longer a get-rich-quick scheme; instead, it's a way to avoid getting poor slowly."


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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.

I go practically and safer in MR.BOB why?


       1 - I don't have to check the market or do other things But waiting.

       2 - Don't have to Gamble in Shitcoins or other low factor coins but Bitcoin.

       3 - Bull market is not good for DCA as the price keeps rising.


but I respect other answers of course because it is our money to decide so act on it .

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At the current market condition and having bull run in mind, these persons have $10,000 to invest.

  • Mr. Bob goes 100% with bitcoin.
  • Miss Alice goes 50% bitcoin and 50% random altcoins.
  • Mr. theymos goes with bitcoin but $100 weekly DCA.
Without any sentiment as an investor, I say this without any doubt that Miss Alice is the wisest of them all. By investing in Bitcoin and altcoins, she's already diversified her portfolio and will continue to mean that she can't miss out on both Bitcoin and altcoins investments. Investing a whooping sum of 50% ($5000) in Bitcoin is big enough and there is no way she can miss out on any advantage possible in Bitcoin, this is inclusive of the situation where her altcoins investment fails her.  However, this is highly unlikely if she carefully selects her altcoins/tokens. The same goes for the altcoins as well.

That said, There is a high possibility that she will win more than what she could earn in Bitcoin with her altcoins, that's the reason for investing in the altcoins at the same time as Bitcoin. This has ever been the wisest option in investment, and you can attest to it as some altcoins moved significantly in the last few months where Bitcoin has not doubled its value since that time.

However, all of these guys are doing good, after all, they invested in cryptocurrency and time is the best judge of who will make the most money out of their investments.

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