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December 21, 2023, 10:29:36 AM
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I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?
I never experience being banned in my bank and I don't want to experiencs it either. It's a bank responsibility to inform their customers the reason why they got banned so that client will become aware of things that may be violated, This is the first time I heard that banks has been banned in conjunction of gambling activities but it's normal if a person doing online gambling while connected to a bank unless there's a illegal activities detected to a transaction history.



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December 21, 2023, 11:56:16 AM
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I never experience being banned in my bank and I don't want to experiencs it either. It's a bank responsibility to inform their customers the reason why they got banned so that client will become aware of things that may be violated, This is the first time I heard that banks has been banned in conjunction of gambling activities but it's normal if a person doing online gambling while connected to a bank unless there's a illegal activities detected to a transaction history.
But sometimes if in a country that prohibits gambling and considers it an illegal act, I think it is possible to freeze bank accounts where the government cooperates with the bank to block any transaction related to illegal acts prohibited by the government, we also do not know about the law that is in the country of the OP and his sister, is it illegal or legal? because the OP didn't explain it in detail in this thread so there are still few other reasons that make sense.

If it is indeed prohibited in the country and considered illegal, I think we all know that the blocking and banning of bank accounts may be used for large transactions in gambling until they are frozen or suspended, but if you want to get a more detailed explanation, don't ask on this forum but directly just ask what the problem is at the bank to know more about the real problem.

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December 21, 2023, 12:44:45 PM
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Banks will always work with the government to protect an out flow of their local currency, so they will block suspicious activity on your account. There are capital control restrictions and this gets reported to the government, if people regularly transfer money to international services, without following the guidelines for cross border transfers.

Gambling operations are also used by money laundering syndicates to "clean" dirty (criminal) money, so Banks will monitor those transactions and even block money that are going towards these kinds of sites.  Roll Eyes

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Since I discovered cryptocurrencies, it is my favorite medium to use in funding my casino account. I always pick this option because I know how erratic the internet network is in my country and I would not want to be have any issues or even a delay in funding my casino wallet.
If can use crypto in a casino rather than Fiat,

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December 21, 2023, 01:21:39 PM
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I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?

Firstly, it depends on your local laws.

If your local laws makes room for gambling as a legal event then it is obviously not a direction to consider. It is a bank account and the last time I checked, accounts are more into chaos because of the inbound transactions and lesser because of outbound except in obvious cases of fraud.

He should locate the bank's customer care office(r) and lodge complaints, a walk-in visit will be better than an online form filling as the delay time may not be friendly.

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December 21, 2023, 01:31:25 PM
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I haven't experienced it, but can you share more information about the story?

1. Is your younger brother directly using fiat to gamble?
2. Is your younger brother use CEX to buy cryptocurrency, gamble it, withdraw and cashout through CEX?

These are two different scenarios, if your younger brother directly use fiat to gamble, then I won't be surprised since it's more obvious than you convert it through cryptos.

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I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?
I think the issue is with Raven and not the gambling platform. It is possible they do not allow gambling activities and just noticed upon their routine check. I don't think it is the legitimacy of the funds because the chances of using illegal funds is slim.

What I feel is a weakness of Raven in this case is closing the account without notice. The right thing to do is to send an email explaining why they have to close the account. The best line of action is contacting their support like you have done and wait for what they will say is their reason for their action.

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?
If you go through comments in this forum, you will see many gambling platforms that have acted in a way that is unprofessional. The best is to use reputable gambling platforms that have stood the test of time with unparalleled transparency.

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December 21, 2023, 03:54:04 PM
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Banks will always work with the government to protect an out flow of their local currency, so they will block suspicious activity on your account. There are capital control restrictions and this gets reported to the government, if people regularly transfer money to international services, without following the guidelines for cross border transfers.

Gambling operations are also used by money laundering syndicates to "clean" dirty (criminal) money, so Banks will monitor those transactions and even block money that are going towards these kinds of sites.  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin is border less...  Wink

It depends on your local government also and how strict they are. The amount that you try to withdraw from a gambling site or exchange is also important; if you stay below a certain amount (couple of 1000$), you will not get flagged and have no issues but it is always good to be careful.



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December 21, 2023, 04:51:03 PM
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The bank I am using is not having anything that says I can't deposit funds from casino or the source of funds can't be related to gambling but since we are talking about crypto gambling, you are not going to deposit the winnings to bank accounts, to cashout the place you deposit is exchanges where it becomes tricky so read the ToS completely to avoid your account getting banned.

For the safe option, you can pick p2p platforms that don't have restrictions and also your bank can't flag your funds coming from crypto and gambling.

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December 21, 2023, 04:54:02 PM
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I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?

As to answer your question, is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?
When gambling, it's important to read the terms and conditions carefully and assess the website's readability as some websites may be fraudulent, copycats, or other issues.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?
The bank does, however, have a certain level of protection. Perhaps your younger brother has taken action against accounts that breach the rules of the website or game, particularly gambling, which may be subject to legal limitations. In addition, in order to prevent any problems down the road, your younger brother and other people must read and abide by the terms and conditions of their financial service providers. As for myself, I have never been blacklisted. I haven't personally been banned from any websites because I have only used other money transaction that work with the gambling platform. Gambling revolves in money and luck though.

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December 21, 2023, 04:59:12 PM
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I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?

Not a permanent block or ban but in past I had problem with my skrill for withdrawing my gambling funds. If you don't know, Skrill was the most popular payment platform to get money to and from your bank and into and out of gambling sites. Paypal was always problematic and many gambling sites didn't supported it.
I had money from different sources and my bank in the skrill account, I deposited some amount to a popular gambling site to bet for the world cup. I made a decent profit and withdrew it to my skrill. It went without an issue but there were trouble from skrill on getting it to my bank as I had mixed my gambling euros to non-gambling euros. With months of trouble, I redeemed my cash but stopped using skrill.


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December 21, 2023, 08:04:17 PM
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I had no experience like that because I never use my bank account to send money to casino accounts. I play 100% using cryptocurrencies and I keep my bank account an my bitcoin separate so that nobody can link my identity to my bitcoin. I see this as an integral part of both being in crypto and gambling, despite none of these two being banned in my country. Politics change and what's legal one day can become illegal the next and I don't want my government to know how I spend my free time. It's not their business.
If you're having trouble with a bank, I guess there's not enough competition for them in your country and they think they can do anything and not care about their clients. When there's a lot of competing banks, the situation changes.

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December 21, 2023, 08:12:22 PM
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Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?

It’s not about gambling platform you need to avoid but rather you should check your bank account policy about their stand about gambling activity. Some bank doesn’t allowed their customers to receive funds from gambling especially if your country doesn’t allowed online gambling.

This is the danger of using a centralized platform such as bank because they can freeze your account indefinitely if you failed to fully read their terms.

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December 21, 2023, 08:23:19 PM
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Could there had been something on phishing your younger was not telling you OP? I think the account has been on transaction tracks and was compromised because there could be some sorts of unwarranted/illegal transactions of the account via how the account is been funded and how the funds is being transacted out from the account.
I have seen situations where people hides there illegal indulgences with the formations of legalities such as scammers requesting for Bitcoin instead of the fiat from their victims with the use of crytop wallets that is not supported with KYC because they want to untraceable and anonymous.

This was what first came to my mind, most banks are aware of gambling and they even have that features on their banks app to for funding the platforms, I don't think any bank will make gambling to close an account unless the bank is of situation if the government has restricted people from gambling, in such situation, the bank see your gambling as breaking of law which can put them into trouble but as the Opay claims, they have been using it before and all of sudden, they suspended the accounts but no reason was attached to why they suspend the account.

It is possible that the brother has used the account for another thing that broke their law which is why they suspended the account or it is possible that they banned the account because they recieve money that was more than what the account can recieve. I have seen accounts locked immediately if the bank suspected an account reeive more than the limit they gave them and they don't upon the account until you provide an additional documentation before they can unfreeze the bank account.

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December 21, 2023, 08:34:36 PM
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I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?
Do you play on crypto casino sites? what country are you from, if your country legalizes gambling then you will be able to get your money but if your country legalizes gambling then it will be difficult for you to get the money, but why do you have to make a withdrawal directly to your bank account, you should use an exchange to safeguard your money.  Several banks have joined the anti-gambling campaign because there are many rumors spreading that money laundering is quite common on gambling sites, so banks quite often freeze money from gamblers who make withdrawals, but if you want to try asking the bank, please do so, you have to bear the risk.

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December 21, 2023, 08:35:05 PM
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It depends on your local bank regulations, whether deposits from banks to gambling platforms are allowed or not, because what I know is that banks are always sensitive when there are gambling activities so they can block your bank at any time if caught.

Many countries have made regulations about gambling where they prohibit people from making deposits through banks, so maybe that's what the OP is experiencing where he is hampered by regulations.

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December 21, 2023, 08:44:01 PM
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I find this very frustrating when i see people complain about their funding bank/provider account being banned because of gambling related activities. My younger just called me and told me his raven account was banned and he has been using it to deposit dollars in his gambling platform and also paying for subscriptions online. I want to get this clear.

Is it because of the gambling activities that got his account banned or it is because of the legitimacy of the funds that raven are more concerned about?

Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Since i woke up we've been trying to contact their support for complaint and no response yet. Is there anyone with similar experience?
Do you play on crypto casino sites? what country are you from, if your country legalizes gambling then you will be able to get your money but if your country legalizes gambling then it will be difficult for you to get the money, but why do you have to make a withdrawal directly to your bank account, you should use an exchange to safeguard your money.  Several banks have joined the anti-gambling campaign because there are many rumors spreading that money laundering is quite common on gambling sites, so banks quite often freeze money from gamblers who make withdrawals, but if you want to try asking the bank, please do so, you have to bear the risk.
This is why it is really that always important that you should really be that wary about those terms and conditions on the time that you are opening some bank account. You cant really just that simply ignore out with those simpliest detail specially when you are signing up some contract or agreeing terms on which it would really be that relevant and important that you should really know on what are  the things that you are signing in.
If you do see that into those terms that your local bank does prohibit out gambling funds or related on where it do originated then it would really be just that right that you shouldnt really be crediting it out with
those funds but on the time that you had just missed out on reading up these terms then its your fault not theirs.

For sure it would really be needing up some requirements if ever the bank would really be that locking up your account. You would be needing to comply and answer all of their questions
on which this would really be likely the case that would be asked out or would happen. This is where you would really be able to realize that you must
not skip out on reading at least on what are the things been stated with those pile or papers. lol

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We can't say for sure what is the exact reason given how there could be many factors that could cause such decision. I'm not sure if it'll work but you could try pressing them about this. In addition, the questions they'll be asking (if any) could give a hint as well, for instance if they ask about a particular activity of your bro, you could look into that.

Personally, I've never experienced such. Luckily in our place, closing of accounts typically doesn't mean you money will be seized as users are given opportunity to get their money out. Nevertheless, it's still recommended to have a separate fiat account for activities that could be in a gray area for some custodial services like crypto, gambling etc. -- I suggest looking into neobanks Grin

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December 21, 2023, 09:12:52 PM
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Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Banks and payment companies gotta watch out for fraud and make sure they follow all the rules and regulatory compliance.  So when your bro was using Raven to fund that gambling site that wasn't licensed, it raised some red flags.  Raven likely assumed he was doing something shady or illegal.  they gotta cover their own butts, and your brother should've read the fine print and realized he couldn't use Raven like that.  

Going forward, read the terms of service for payment apps really carefully.  Make sure you know what you can and can't use them for before transferring money.  And dont try to sneak things past the system because they're always watching for rule-breakers.  Sorry you both learned this the hard way.

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December 21, 2023, 09:27:44 PM
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Is there any gambling platform that needs to be avoided?

Banks and payment companies gotta watch out for fraud and make sure they follow all the rules and regulatory compliance.  So when your bro was using Raven to fund that gambling site that wasn't licensed, it raised some red flags.  Raven likely assumed he was doing something shady or illegal.  they gotta cover their own butts, and your brother should've read the fine print and realized he couldn't use Raven like that.  

Going forward, read the terms of service for payment apps really carefully.  Make sure you know what you can and can't use them for before transferring money.  And dont try to sneak things past the system because they're always watching for rule-breakers.  Sorry you both learned this the hard way.

People would really be just that only be tending to read up those terms on the time that they would be experiencing these issues but they havent done it earlier but rather in the late case which this is typical.
Banks are highly centralized and regulated on which they would really be following on what the government been ruled out and for them to avoid up to involved into some mess then they would really be that
strict on imposing those rules and conditions on which it would be passed up into it customers or users.  They would really be always that be close monitoring into those possible money laundering correlated kind of actions
on which on the time that they've seen something then it would really just that normal that they would be having those approach or actions to be made on.

This is why it would be always recommended that you should really know on the things that you've been doing. This is why on the time that you are tending to make use of a service or into those banks
then it would be always that wise that reading up those regulations will really be that necessary.Being aware and knowledgeable on things will always be having
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