address reuse within Electrum

[bitcoin talk]

Electrum allows you to receive to different address each time but when you send it doesn't is there a wallet that allows you to generate new address to send from too?

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[Mia Chloe]

I think you are confusing the hierarchical deterministic (HD) wallet feature. These wallets mask your transaction trail by generating new wallet addresses after every transaction. This done by creating a series of private keys consistently to sign transactions.
Ledger is an HD wallet op.Others are Exodus,Trezor and lots more.
Mycelium which is one example of such wallets is also a mobile wallet.
It is also important for you to understand that although ledger is an HD wallet it uses a single "send from" address to make it easy to track transactions. Though you can modify that in your ledger wallet settings. You can make use of Bitcoin core if you are having issues setting up multiple "send from" addresses.

[Gladitorcomeback]

Electrum allows you to receive to different address each time but when you send it doesn't is there a wallet that allows you to generate new address to send from too?

If this was possible in Electrum wallet then Mixers will be not live for this propose.  BTW your idea is good and it will be a very good feature if Electrum developers ever think about it and success in bringing it.

I researched about for your question and found that some wallets like HD (Hierarchical Deterministic) wallets already mentioned by @Chloe provide the capability to generate new addresses for both receiving and sending transactions. The good things is that the wallets use a single seed phrase to derive an entire hierarchy of key pairs which allow you to create new addresses which we needed  for enhancing privacy and security. You could use HD wallets for the feature you're looking for in address generation for sending transactions and I hope your problem will be solved.

[mk4]

Not sure if I understand what you're asking here: but you can only send from the address that you received the coins to. It's technically not possible to receive funds from wallet1, and send the funds from wallet2.

[rat03gopoh]

That is unlikely to happen and there is no such onchain wallet. You must have input tx(s) first before creating output tx(s). Even though the change addresses in Electrum are unified because they're generated from 1 seed phrase, that doesn't mean they are technically merged. They have their own private keys and can't sign tx(s) on another Bitcoin address that they don't own.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Electrum allows you to receive to different address each time but when you send it doesn't is there a wallet that allows you to generate new address to send from too?

You only can send bitcoins from your UTXOs in your wallet. If you send it all, you have nothing left but if you send part of it, you will have two options to receive rest of your bitcoins: to a same address where you send your bitcoins; to a change address. It depends on your wallet settings in past wallet versions.

Electrum change addresses in Preferences

In newest versions like 4.4.6, it is hidden and Electrum default option is always using Change addresses.

How to use the Electrum wallet receive tab.

Initial receive address is in Green.
Change address is in Yellow.

[Zaguru12]

Electrum allows you to receive to different address each time but when you send it doesn't is there a wallet that allows you to generate new address to send from too?

You don’t send an address you send UTXOs which are on your received address, so basically those receiving addresses are also your sending address. You can chose which one to send from and which one not to send from. This is what coin control is all about, if you want to specifically send from a particular address you use coin control to send from it and if you don’t want any UTXOs coming out from a particular address maybe because you don’t want them to mix up with some of the others then you freeze that particular address you don’t want to send out from

[Charles-Tim]

Electrum allows you to receive to different address each time but when you send it doesn't is there a wallet that allows you to generate new address to send from too?

You can read more about the whirlpool on Sparrow and Samurai. If you have coins on any of this two wallets, you can go for the coinjoin which is the whirlpool which will help you to mix the coins to different addresses. But this will require fee to be paid. If you want to send the coin, it would be from the mixed coin which is from different addresses

[Natsuu]

I think you are confusing the hierarchical deterministic (HD) wallet feature. These wallets mask your transaction trail by generating new wallet addresses after every transaction. This done by creating a series of private keys consistently to sign transactions.
Ledger is an HD wallet op.Others are Exodus,Trezor and lots more.
Mycelium which is one example of such wallets is also a mobile wallet.
It is also important for you to understand that although ledger is an HD wallet it uses a single "send from" address to make it easy to track transactions. Though you can modify that in your ledger wallet settings. You can make use of Bitcoin core if you are having issues setting up multiple "send from" addresses.

Right? HD wallets use a hierarchical structure for key generation, improving privacy by creating new addresses for each transaction. Some wallets, like Ledger, might use a default "send from" address for simplicity but users can often configure or manually manage multiple sending addresses. Bitcoin Core is another option, allowing users to have more control over address management.

This thread will really help OP.

[nc50lc]

Electrum allows you to receive to different address each time but when you send it doesn't is there a wallet that allows you to generate new address to send from too?

That is only possible in "custodial wallets" where your balance is held in their database rather than the blockchain.
So when sending, it'll show that it's sent from their hot wallet's address instead of your deposit address.

But that's not the case in non-custodial wallets like Electrum since Bitcoin uses "UTXO model".
Let's say that you received a transaction: in mempools (unconfirmed) or blockchain, it's saved as a new "Unspent Transaction Output" (UTXO)
which is locked with a script that can be encoded and display by your wallet as an address.
To spend it (when sending), your wallet has to refer to that specific UTXO as an input, not any other unused locking script that haven't received any bitcoins yet.
Since that specific UTXO is used as input, it'll show in blockexplorers and wallets that it's sent from its address-encoded script.

So TL;DR, using an unused address to send not possible.
That's not categorized as "address-reuse" if the address isn't used to 'receive then send' more than once.

[Faisal2202]

Electrum allows you to receive to different address each time but when you send it doesn't is there a wallet that allows you to generate new address to send from too?

I read almost 4 to 5 replies and none of them helped me to understand what you are asking, I mean if you are saying you get to choose from multiple receiving addresses each time but why you are not getting multiple sending addresses then I would say use the multiple receiving addresses to send. This means if you have 5 multiple receiving addresses then use them and they will act as your 5 sending addresses.

Or you are planning to create multiple wallets within the same wallet and trying to send funds from one wallet to another or what? in both case I think this is what you are trying to explain.

[Pmalek]

Electrum allows you to receive to different address each time but when you send it doesn't is there a wallet that allows you to generate new address to send from too?

You can't generate a new address that is also funded with bitcoins. It doesn't work like that. You can only send UTXOs from addresses that previously received coins, not from empty ones.

Or you are planning to create multiple wallets within the same wallet and trying to send funds from one wallet to another or what? in both case I think this is what you are trying to explain.

Don't confuse wallets with addresses in wallets. You create ONE wallet. That wallet contains any number of addresses that you need. If you receive BTC to one of your addresses, you can then move those coins in various ways to other addresses in the same or a different wallet.

[pooya87]

It seems like OP is confused about how bitcoin works.
In Bitcoin you don't have a balance (as it is in your bank account) to spend from. Instead you receive "coins" or transaction outputs that are tied to your address/key. When spending bitcoin you have to spend those coins from those addresses with their corresponding keys.
In other words you can't receive coins in address A but spend coins from address B.

[khaled0111]

The above replies must be confusing!
Electrum is an HD wallet. To simplify this, it means it is constitued of an unlimited number of addresses that are linked to each other (there is a difference between a wallet and an address).
Whenever you click on the receive button, Electrum will generate a new address for you (for privacy reasons). All those addresses are yours and belong to your wallet.
If you want to spend some of your coins, Electrum will use one or some of your funded addresses (UTXOs). All those addresse belong to your wallet too (there is a difference between an address and utxo).

[bitcoin talk]

You don’t send an address you send UTXOs which are on your received address, so basically those receiving addresses are also your sending address. You can chose which one to send from and which one not to send from. This is what coin control is all about, if you want to specifically send from a particular address you use coin control to send from it and if you don’t want any UTXOs coming out from a particular address maybe because you don’t want them to mix up with some of the others then you freeze that particular address you don’t want to send out from

Where in preferences is the coin control for that? I already know how to to do for receive but not for sending. Use changed address is already checked blue in Electrum preferences.

[Zaguru12]

Where in preferences is the coin control for that? I already know how to to do for receive let’s focus on sending. Use changed address is already checked blue.

If you can find the coins tab then go to views and then click on coins. If you want to use that specific UTXO then select add to coin control and then it will be added, you add as many UTXO as you want. This are the UTXOs that will be use for sending only.

If you want to freeze some UTXOs so that you won’t use them for future transaction you can simply click on Freeze coin to freeze that UTXO or freeze address to freeze all UTXOs on that address.

Use this guide to understand it https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-spend-specific-utxos-in-electrum/

[bitcoin talk]

Where in preferences is the coin control for that? I already know how to to do for receive let’s focus on sending. Use changed address is already checked blue.

If you can find the coins tab then go to views and then click on coins. If you want to use that specific UTXO then select add to coin control and then it will be added, you add as many UTXO as you want. This are the UTXOs that will be use for sending only.

If you want to freeze some UTXOs so that you won’t use them for future transaction you can simply click on Freeze coin to freeze that UTXO or freeze address to freeze all UTXOs on that address.

Use this guide to understand it https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-spend-specific-utxos-in-electrum/

Thanks, I see two address there under coins tab, i read the link but not clear how to create new address so they appear under coin tab

[Zaguru12]

Thanks, I see two address there under coins tab, i read the link but not clear how to create new address so they appear under coin tab

Those addresses or UTXO that you saw there are what are actually available for either coin control or freeze. Select the one you want to use specifically and then click on it and select either to use it as coin control or freeze it so no coins can be sent out from it

I don’t understand what you mean by creating new address but to use coin control you don’t need to

[bitcoin talk]

I don’t understand what you mean by creating new address but to use coin control you don’t need to

I want to see more addresses there, how do I create them in that spot.

[bitcoin talk]

This means if you have 5 multiple receiving addresses then use them and they will act as your 5 sending addresses.

Each time you create a new recieving address you automatically are allowed to use that to send to? How do I tell it which one I want to use to send if I have 5?

Or you are planning to create multiple wallets within the same wallet and trying to send funds from one wallet to another or what? in both case I think this is what you are trying to explain.

Can that be done?