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July 22, 2024, 12:21:03 PM
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1. Yes, of course I do.
2. They are useful if they are backed by facts that are easy to find on the Internet or other sources.
3. It should be transparent and easy to understand as much as possible. I don't want to read a review and then go in searches for the info that isn't there (but it should of).
4. I will definitely check it out!
Well bro, just a heads up, this is page 28, and it is improper (from a reader's perspective) to be replying to the op in page 1, on page 28 without quoting the post you are replaying to.
Someone can read your comment just as you have numbered them, and get confused because they don't understand what you are repplying to with or in those numbers, such one will have to return back to page 1 to find out, and doing this is totally not convenient.
So to better make things easy for your reader, quote the post you are replying to, it's not so hard to do I think.

And by the way, I buy into all your points, they are totally correct and I agree completely, most especially with point number 2 and 3.

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July 25, 2024, 09:49:14 AM
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Honest reviews is what the people want with all of the gambling platforms because no one will ever wanted to be a victim of any scam gambling platform, instead is the need for making a research about the available ones in other to know which should be in consideration for the best offer of gambling service satisfactions to gamblers, most of us don't play with reviews because from there we have an idea on what is at stake or not.
reviews are a very useful thing. Before registering on a platform that is new to me, I always look for reviews about the work first on the forum, then I look at reviews on YouTube so I can find all the information that is useful to me. For me, a big plus is the representative here on the forum who can publicly ask a question and getting an answer inspires confidence.

It is good that we make research on every gambling platofrm we are coming across with, this will help us select the best and avoid the substandard ones, also, we must not forget the way we are expected in making some of these research online since we know that reviews can also be manipulated, therefore we must be able to see to a reasonable extent that the informations gotten are genuine facts.
I do agree with the  reviews manipulation but it can't be neglected out of alot of reviews there will be some truth which can easily be filtered and i believe it should have some reviews do have  evidence backup   too , check for likely feedbacks over reviews too.
Apart form that, more research  on looking toward the aspect of scam or likely accusations over casino with genuine proof of the accusations could be done , checking  if this accusations were resolved could help too , this will give a better caution  toward our dealings.
Although it might be hard but anything  that requires funds should be backed by thorough research before delving int o any depositions to avoid scams .
This is almost the same as what I just posted on another topic, there is no way sincere and insincere reviews will not linger, but still, we can read them insightfully, and by that, it is only a few of the insincere ones that will pass through our radars. What I've noticed is that many of these written insincere reviews often have some flaws attached to them where you can suspect they are lying, while others might even be alleging the casino what they (accusers) are practically guilty of themselves simply by reading their reviews. I often average these together before I come to any conclusion about the reviewed company.

But what I will not take for granted is the persistent cry of people. If it is so much and mostly inherent against the casino, my brother, run for your dear money. This has been the same in all risky sectors I invest my money, especially in trading and gambling. If withdrawal issues are rampant against the company, you might be a few days away from being a victim as well if you do not heed those cries. Those I've warned always thank me later.

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July 25, 2024, 12:23:25 PM
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1. Yes, of course I do.
2. They are useful if they are backed by facts that are easy to find on the Internet or other sources.
3. It should be transparent and easy to understand as much as possible. I don't want to read a review and then go in searches for the info that isn't there (but it should of).
4. I will definitely check it out!
Well bro, just a heads up, this is page 28, and it is improper (from a reader's perspective) to be replying to the op in page 1, on page 28 without quoting the post you are replaying to.
Someone can read your comment just as you have numbered them, and get confused because they don't understand what you are repplying to with or in those numbers, such one will have to return back to page 1 to find out, and doing this is totally not convenient.
So to better make things easy for your reader, quote the post you are replying to, it's not so hard to do I think.

And by the way, I buy into all your points, they are totally correct and I agree completely, most especially with point number 2 and 3.

Yeah, you are totally right, I just got used to answering the head of the thread without quoting it. Next time I will try to be better Wink Thanks for a tip!

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July 27, 2024, 06:42:40 AM
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I really like numbers and tables. Much more than texts, as those are clear, objective and easily comparable.

However my first point would require text, and that s an archive of the casinos current and past Term of Service and Bonus Terms and highlighting how often it changes and how. I heard of cases where someone won big with bonus balance, completed the wager and he was not allowed to withdraw it because  on the fly the casinochanged the Bonus Terms to include the game he just played on as restricted slot. This would show how often does a casino do such things, which could be a strong red flag.

Shortened, understandable ToS, especially highlighting unfair points. (Though most offshore casinos have such unfair terms that this point might be totally irrelevant.)

For cryto casinos it would be nice to know which coins are accepted and on which network, also how much fee do they charge for withdrawals for each coin-network pair.

Again for crypto casinos: what currencies do they support and whether or not a player can change the currencies they play in anytime, or is it fixed at registration.

For fiat: list the different deposit and withdraw methods, and warn the player if there is such a deposit method that has no withdrawal option too.

Presenting the loyalty program, preferably with numbers included.

Presenting the various bonuses and their terms.

Making an indicator about how good a casino is rtpwise. Have a good rating if they licence the slots with the possible highest rtp, and lower and lower as they license it with worse and worse rtp. (Like how the same pragmatic play slots can be licensed with 96% rtp, or 94%, or even less. This is true for many other provider.)

Showing whether KYC can be done before the first deposit.


This is all I can think of right now, that I think most review sites lack.
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I really like numbers and tables. Much more than texts, as those are clear, objective and easily comparable.

However my first point would require text, and that s an archive of the casinos current and past Term of Service and Bonus Terms and highlighting how often it changes and how. I heard of cases where someone won big with bonus balance, completed the wager and he was not allowed to withdraw it because  on the fly the casinochanged the Bonus Terms to include the game he just played on as restricted slot. This would show how often does a casino do such things, which could be a strong red flag.

Shortened, understandable ToS, especially highlighting unfair points. (Though most offshore casinos have such unfair terms that this point might be totally irrelevant.)

For cryto casinos it would be nice to know which coins are accepted and on which network, also how much fee do they charge for withdrawals for each coin-network pair.

Again for crypto casinos: what currencies do they support and whether or not a player can change the currencies they play in anytime, or is it fixed at registration.

For fiat: list the different deposit and withdraw methods, and warn the player if there is such a deposit method that has no withdrawal option too.

Presenting the loyalty program, preferably with numbers included.

Presenting the various bonuses and their terms.

Making an indicator about how good a casino is rtpwise. Have a good rating if they licence the slots with the possible highest rtp, and lower and lower as they license it with worse and worse rtp. (Like how the same pragmatic play slots can be licensed with 96% rtp, or 94%, or even less. This is true for many other provider.)

Showing whether KYC can be done before the first deposit.


This is all I can think of right now, that I think most review sites lack.
This is truly a good amount of information that a beginner or even an experienced player should become familiar with. 
However, I must point out, and what you also mentioned in your post, is the fact that casino regulations and customer requirements can be so variable, especially for casinos registered in offshore jurisdictions.  It is simply impossible for a simple player without a legal education to understand these subtleties of the rules.  And even with such an education, any lawyer will immediately discover a lot of all kinds of potential loopholes and inaccuracies in the rules.  Unfortunately, all players constantly have to deal with sudden changes in the rules that do not improve the quality of their game at all.  The reasons may be at the level of changes in the laws of a given jurisdiction and simply the creation of obstacles on the part of the casino to maximize profits and a change in managers or business owners, and so on.  In general, in such legislative chaos, any player cannot realistically count on a fair and honest solution to his gaming situation in the event of problems with the casino. 
And this, in my opinion, almost does not depend on whether the player went through KYC when opening a deposit, or whether he is required to undergo sudden KYC and in all similar cases.

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August 09, 2024, 08:45:04 PM
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I really like numbers and tables. Much more than texts, as those are clear, objective and easily comparable.

However my first point would require text, and that s an archive of the casinos current and past Term of Service and Bonus Terms and highlighting how often it changes and how. I heard of cases where someone won big with bonus balance, completed the wager and he was not allowed to withdraw it because  on the fly the casinochanged the Bonus Terms to include the game he just played on as restricted slot. This would show how often does a casino do such things, which could be a strong red flag.

Shortened, understandable ToS, especially highlighting unfair points. (Though most offshore casinos have such unfair terms that this point might be totally irrelevant.)

For cryto casinos it would be nice to know which coins are accepted and on which network, also how much fee do they charge for withdrawals for each coin-network pair.

Again for crypto casinos: what currencies do they support and whether or not a player can change the currencies they play in anytime, or is it fixed at registration.

For fiat: list the different deposit and withdraw methods, and warn the player if there is such a deposit method that has no withdrawal option too.

Presenting the loyalty program, preferably with numbers included.

Presenting the various bonuses and their terms.

Making an indicator about how good a casino is rtpwise. Have a good rating if they licence the slots with the possible highest rtp, and lower and lower as they license it with worse and worse rtp. (Like how the same pragmatic play slots can be licensed with 96% rtp, or 94%, or even less. This is true for many other provider.)

Showing whether KYC can be done before the first deposit.


This is all I can think of right now, that I think most review sites lack.
This is truly a good amount of information that a beginner or even an experienced player should become familiar with. 
However, I must point out, and what you also mentioned in your post, is the fact that casino regulations and customer requirements can be so variable, especially for casinos registered in offshore jurisdictions.  It is simply impossible for a simple player without a legal education to understand these subtleties of the rules.  And even with such an education, any lawyer will immediately discover a lot of all kinds of potential loopholes and inaccuracies in the rules.  Unfortunately, all players constantly have to deal with sudden changes in the rules that do not improve the quality of their game at all.  The reasons may be at the level of changes in the laws of a given jurisdiction and simply the creation of obstacles on the part of the casino to maximize profits and a change in managers or business owners, and so on.  In general, in such legislative chaos, any player cannot realistically count on a fair and honest solution to his gaming situation in the event of problems with the casino. 
And this, in my opinion, almost does not depend on whether the player went through KYC when opening a deposit, or whether he is required to undergo sudden KYC and in all similar cases.

The approach can be a bit overwhelming if you put all the information there without some level of staged approach. The beguiner's needs and the expert player needs seem to be quite different. Adding to that, you will find the necessity of updating the content as many players need to see how the ToS are, and more if they are seasoned players that know exactly which details are more important for them.

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August 09, 2024, 09:29:59 PM
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The thing is that casino reviews some people that done it don't really know the objective of them to reviews casino, for me the reasons that will make to reviews casino is base on the following
● To identify scam casino
● Also detect fast confirmation of account funding
● Including the speed of withdrawal
● To know and compare the features of a particular casino to another

In summary casino review is important to any gamblers, because after reviews that will assure or give you courage to have a confidence in any casino game, and secondly to the games that is suitable for you to play.
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The thing is that casino reviews some people that done it don't really know the objective of them to reviews casino, for me the reasons that will make to reviews casino is base on the following
● To identify scam casino
● Also detect fast confirmation of account funding
● Including the speed of withdrawal
● To know and compare the features of a particular casino to another

In summary casino review is important to any gamblers, because after reviews that will assure or give you courage to have a confidence in any casino game, and secondly to the games that is suitable for you to play.

It would really be that relevant because on the time or moment that you do see up these reviews then you would really be able to know on what kind of site that you would really be tending to deal with
specially if its your first time then it wont really be that a bad idea on making up some research specially if its a crypto based sites or platforms on which you could somewhat presume that they would really be having some ANN thread into this forum on where peoples feedbacks and opinions could really be able to read up.  This is why it would really be that relevant that you should really able to make out that kind of
decision whether it would really be good or bad basing up into those reviews. It wont really be that hard to determine whether you are dealing with a good site or a shit one.

The good thing about having those known review sites or people or even into this forum alone would already be that sufficient enough to look for those informations on which you would really be
needing for you to find out whether it would be having some pending issues or not. It wouldnt really be hard to determine if you do really just that make use of your own common sense.

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August 09, 2024, 10:23:40 PM
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The thing is that casino reviews some people that done it don't really know the objective of them to reviews casino, for me the reasons that will make to reviews casino is base on the following
● To identify scam casino
● Also detect fast confirmation of account funding
● Including the speed of withdrawal
● To know and compare the features of a particular casino to another


Not only that, but there are many reasons why user reviews of casinos may not be accurate enough to be taken into account completely. Some reviews are not completely neutral or the user may be biased based on his or her individual experience only, which may lead to extreme positive or negative reviews. Also, the quality of services may have changed over time, making older reviews inaccurate.

Therefore, it is advisable to check several different sources and reviews before making a decision about any casino, and look for reviews that are as comprehensive and objective as possible.

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August 10, 2024, 01:52:51 AM
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The thing is that casino reviews some people that done it don't really know the objective of them to reviews casino, for me the reasons that will make to reviews casino is base on the following
● To identify scam casino
● Also detect fast confirmation of account funding
● Including the speed of withdrawal
● To know and compare the features of a particular casino to another

In summary casino review is important to any gamblers, because after reviews that will assure or give you courage to have a confidence in any casino game, and secondly to the games that is suitable for you to play.
in my opinion many people ignore this little thing even though if you think about it even though this is small but also quite important, some people ignore this maybe because they don't pay too much attention or are not careful. for those who are careful and visit a new casino, small things like this will definitely be considered, because they don't want problems to occur in the middle of the betting journey they play. with those who are used to ignoring will see reviews when experiencing problems with the bets they make.

I myself see casino reviews for the speed of the withdrawal or deposit process as you mentioned among some of these points. but if to find out and compare the features of a particular casino with others I don't think it's much different, whether online or physical casinos. the features tend to be the same even though I've never set foot in a physical casino but I don't think it's much different with this.
others I agree that reviews are something that can be considered when we are going to place a bet because there is information from those who have experienced betting at the casino.

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August 10, 2024, 05:29:03 AM
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I myself see casino reviews for the speed of the withdrawal or deposit process as you mentioned among some of these points. but if to find out and compare the features of a particular casino with others I don't think it's much different, whether online or physical casinos. the features tend to be the same even though I've never set foot in a physical casino but I don't think it's much different with this.
others I agree that reviews are something that can be considered when we are going to place a bet because there is information from those who have experienced betting at the casino.
Experience matters in casino gambling but no one can measure or qualify a particular casino gambling to be good due to the interface of the website, what we are suppose to be use to grant a particular website as a good one should be as result of the what you mentioned above, the withdrawal process, if the withdrawal process issues more delay and process know that the site of that a casino is not in order, and that's why many reviewers do point out of deposits process and withdrawal process, but from the beginning casino requested that every player have to done KYC know that casino have licences to operate and anything about their future will be nice.

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August 10, 2024, 08:39:19 PM
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The thing is that casino reviews some people that done it don't really know the objective of them to reviews casino, for me the reasons that will make to reviews casino is base on the following
● To identify scam casino
● Also detect fast confirmation of account funding
● Including the speed of withdrawal
● To know and compare the features of a particular casino to another

In summary casino review is important to any gamblers, because after reviews that will assure or give you courage to have a confidence in any casino game, and secondly to the games that is suitable for you to play.
in my opinion many people ignore this little thing even though if you think about it even though this is small but also quite important, some people ignore this maybe because they don't pay too much attention or are not careful. for those who are careful and visit a new casino, small things like this will definitely be considered, because they don't want problems to occur in the middle of the betting journey they play. with those who are used to ignoring will see reviews when experiencing problems with the bets they make.

I myself see casino reviews for the speed of the withdrawal or deposit process as you mentioned among some of these points. but if to find out and compare the features of a particular casino with others I don't think it's much different, whether online or physical casinos. the features tend to be the same even though I've never set foot in a physical casino but I don't think it's much different with this.
others I agree that reviews are something that can be considered when we are going to place a bet because there is information from those who have experienced betting at the casino.
In as much as I agree with the both of you on the importance of casinos reviews before betting on them, the fact still remains that majority of us don't really take that time to properly review those casinos before we bet on them, because sometimes we are so focused on the bonuses that await them, that anxious feeling and the laziness to read through those reviews papers chase them away always from doing that simple fundamental thing.

The eas of gambling most especially in cryptocurrency casinos have made the subject of preview to suffer some form of set backs because unlike fiat casinos that you must have to provide some assurance that you read the terms, and conditions or even review on the dos and don't on the casino, cryptocurrency casinos on the other hand give that freedom from the third party mandates that are attached to fiat casinos.

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August 10, 2024, 09:31:44 PM
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I myself see casino reviews for the speed of the withdrawal or deposit process as you mentioned among some of these points. but if to find out and compare the features of a particular casino with others I don't think it's much different, whether online or physical casinos. the features tend to be the same even though I've never set foot in a physical casino but I don't think it's much different with this.
others I agree that reviews are something that can be considered when we are going to place a bet because there is information from those who have experienced betting at the casino.
Experience matters in casino gambling but no one can measure or qualify a particular casino gambling to be good due to the interface of the website, what we are suppose to be use to grant a particular website as a good one should be as result of the what you mentioned above, the withdrawal process, if the withdrawal process issues more delay and process know that the site of that a casino is not in order, and that's why many reviewers do point out of deposits process and withdrawal process, but from the beginning casino requested that every player have to done KYC know that casino have licences to operate and anything about their future will be nice.
Sometimes one can be too naive, of course everyone can measure and qualify the casino he wants from any factor, such as UI/UX that may be highlighted in this comment, it is a right and everyone can have their own interest in the features and appearance available in the casino so that they can conclude the casino review is good for themselves.

Delays in deposits or withdrawals can be caused by other things, not only by the casino itself, where in crypto sometimes the blockchain is stuck or full so you need to queue, I mean about this the reason needs to be clarified so as not to think too much bad, yes there are some casinos that prohibit withdrawals before doing data verification, it is relative depending on where you play, so before that you need to see their ToS so you can understand what to do and not do, so that it will affect your activities at the casino.

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August 11, 2024, 12:56:42 AM
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In as much as I agree with the both of you on the importance of casinos reviews before betting on them, the fact still remains that majority of us don't really take that time to properly review those casinos before we bet on them, because sometimes we are so focused on the bonuses that await them, that anxious feeling and the laziness to read through those reviews papers chase them away always from doing that simple fundamental thing.

The eas of gambling most especially in cryptocurrency casinos have made the subject of preview to suffer some form of set backs because unlike fiat casinos that you must have to provide some assurance that you read the terms, and conditions or even review on the dos and don't on the casino, cryptocurrency casinos on the other hand give that freedom from the third party mandates that are attached to fiat casinos.
indeed if you think about it everyone tends to be lazy to read or listen to the rules or reviews that exist and I think this also happens outside of gambling. most likely they are lazy to listen to the reviews that exist in gambling is true as you said they probably only focus on bonuses or wins that they think they will be able to get soon so they don't think about things they should understand first before placing a bet.

besides that the gambling that is done is actually simple, it's just their thinking that makes betting complicated. because of this laziness that makes them ignore some things that are actually small but important to pay attention to.
actually that is also the right of each, besides that I don't think there is an element of coercion for casinos to read reviews or review them, but this is better considered first for the convenience of betting in the future, if we really don't want to experience problems at least taking a little time in my opinion is not bad.

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August 11, 2024, 05:28:14 PM
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I myself see casino reviews for the speed of the withdrawal or deposit process as you mentioned among some of these points. but if to find out and compare the features of a particular casino with others I don't think it's much different, whether online or physical casinos. the features tend to be the same even though I've never set foot in a physical casino but I don't think it's much different with this.
others I agree that reviews are something that can be considered when we are going to place a bet because there is information from those who have experienced betting at the casino.
Experience matters in casino gambling but no one can measure or qualify a particular casino gambling to be good due to the interface of the website, what we are suppose to be use to grant a particular website as a good one should be as result of the what you mentioned above, the withdrawal process, if the withdrawal process issues more delay and process know that the site of that a casino is not in order, and that's why many reviewers do point out of deposits process and withdrawal process
You have a point but at the same time, you should have said that one factor to consider outweighs the other. I will of course be particular more on withdrawal reviews of a casino than the interface, after all, if they have the best interface and best user-friendly experience while surfing their platform but deny me of your withdrawal, what's the point of the good appearance with bad behaviour?

But at the same time, if they have the best withdrawal service but the UI& are bad, one may not be so comfortable with that as well. Except that our money going from us to them (deposit) and the money going back to us at the time we need it (withdrawal) is so relieving and most gamblers will watch out for it more than any other factors.

In all, there are many of them to consider in reviews actually and it is good for the casino to score high in all of them before they can be trusted.

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August 11, 2024, 05:41:44 PM
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The thing is that casino reviews some people that done it don't really know the objective of them to reviews casino, for me the reasons that will make to reviews casino is base on the following
● To identify scam casino
● Also detect fast confirmation of account funding
● Including the speed of withdrawal
● To know and compare the features of a particular casino to another

In summary casino review is important to any gamblers, because after reviews that will assure or give you courage to have a confidence in any casino game, and secondly to the games that is suitable for you to play.

Some of the newbies don't care about reviews either, they are only interested in casino marketing, such as bonuses and such that get them into gambling, after which they get problems with their casino and state that finding out about the casino we are gambling in is the most important decision before gambling.

The points you raised are among the important things that gamblers should know about the importance of reviews, but many of us don't know where the fairest and most accountable casino reviews are naturally from previous gamblers, only bitcointalk forum that I trust to this day to see casino reviews.
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Some of the newbies don't care about reviews either, they are only interested in casino marketing, such as bonuses and such that get them into gambling, after which they get problems with their casino and state that finding out about the casino we are gambling in is the most important decision before gambling.

The points you raised are among the important things that gamblers should know about the importance of reviews, but many of us don't know where the fairest and most accountable casino reviews are naturally from previous gamblers, only bitcointalk forum that I trust to this day to see casino reviews.
You're right because majority that complained is newbies, observation and researching process is very important in anything that has to do with casino, but people mostly newbie ignore researching methods before the venture into casino gambling, so I know that as we making this correction now many other people will start reviewing casino platform before they go in to register with any casino platform

Let me make it clear and comprehensive to people who doesn't know that review is necessary in any casino, so that you will know the features of the casino and also know the rules and regulations of the casino, but most of us register in casino without making all these basic research of casino and that's part of things that make some of them to have issues with some of the casino website.
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There are a lot of things that we need to consider when we are talking about cryptocurrency casinos and what we should look out for from there reviews, most of the cases we are having around are cases that border's around deposits or withdrawal and a couple of other times we see gambler's complaining about locked account without any clear case of the gambler violating the rules of those casinos, this is what our focus should be on whenever we are set out to gamble at any Casino because as a matter of fact, any Casino that does not guarantee the safety of gambler's funds is at risk of losing potential customers because that aspect matter alot to gambler's.

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August 12, 2024, 09:39:16 AM
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Some of the newbies don't care about reviews either, they are only interested in casino marketing, such as bonuses and such that get them into gambling, after which they get problems with their casino and state that finding out about the casino we are gambling in is the most important decision before gambling.

The points you raised are among the important things that gamblers should know about the importance of reviews, but many of us don't know where the fairest and most accountable casino reviews are naturally from previous gamblers, only bitcointalk forum that I trust to this day to see casino reviews.
You're right because majority that complained is newbies, observation and researching process is very important in anything that has to do with casino, but people mostly newbie ignore researching methods before the venture into casino gambling, so I know that as we making this correction now many other people will start reviewing casino platform before they go in to register with any casino platform

Let me make it clear and comprehensive to people who doesn't know that review is necessary in any casino, so that you will know the features of the casino and also know the rules and regulations of the casino, but most of us register in casino without making all these basic research of casino and that's part of things that make some of them to have issues with some of the casino website.
Yes that's right, of course I'm happy for you to share it here, because we know not many people want to do it especially thoroughly about the reviews given, only a few things are only highlighted by certain people, it would be very grateful if you do it to help beginners.

There are a lot of things that we need to consider when we are talking about cryptocurrency casinos and what we should look out for from there reviews, most of the cases we are having around are cases that border's around deposits or withdrawal and a couple of other times we see gambler's complaining about locked account without any clear case of the gambler violating the rules of those casinos, this is what our focus should be on whenever we are set out to gamble at any Casino because as a matter of fact, any Casino that does not guarantee the safety of gambler's funds is at risk of losing potential customers because that aspect matter alot to gambler's.
Maybe I've heard about problems and withdrawals without and account locked without explanation maybe you need to remind me of the case and give a reference to the review, I would really appreciate it friend, yes it is certainly very important for us as gamblers to stay alert and must read every gambler's concern in the past.
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