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December 29, 2023, 04:44:59 PM
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Requesting for KYC is not because of your big win, it's because of the withdrawal you're making request for, if you like, be making small withdrawals and if you also like, make the withdrawal at once, what is certain is that when they requested KYC from you and you're unable to make provision of it, you won't have access to make withdrawals, don't even think of dodging them by making false or incomplete provisions on what has been requested, else they may block your account.
Not literally the withdrawal process but rather the amount on his balance he will gonna withdraw. Normal amount withdrawal will not gonna trigger KYC so both the winning big(huge balance) and the withdrawal process are the factors which KYC triggers.

KYC(Know Your Customer) is just a process for recording customers details to counter money laundering. It’s either busting current money laundering act or for future reference once the authorities ask them for records of certain players.

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December 29, 2023, 04:45:47 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
This could be a great idea to dodge being asked to verify your account before your withdrawal request will be processed, but also have in mind that this may not work for every casino, this can only work for casinos that have automated their system to automatically request kyc verification from users withdrawing a certain amount of money that is above the limit that the casino allows non kyced users to withdraw.

But for some other casino, most especially new casinos that still process alot of stuffs manually, trust that this strategy won't work, as they may likely request kyc verification from the user as soon he or she wins a certain amount of money considered to be good or tangible.
This is what I think, I might be wrong though.

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December 29, 2023, 06:56:33 PM
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This is such an odd question because it makes it seem like it’s possible to win money without KYC if you use workarounds. I don’t think casino operators and regulators can be bamboozled so easily. I would recommend not gambling if you’re trying to get rich without KYC. Trying to get around these rules will only make it so even if you do get lucky and beat the odds to win a fortune, you still lose.
You might get away with a few small withdrawals, but certainly not possible with larger sums of money, or generally, there's no loophole around KYC; this thread is making it sound like there is. If you're unable to provide KYC, you shouldn't go ahead and participate in the first place. It won't be the casino's fault if you end up losing your money; that's something that needs to be acknowledged.

The OP hasn't replied in the thread again; it would be interesting to know the outcome; it's been a day since it was posted. Has he tried withdrawing? Did he manage to successfully withdraw some money before he was asked for KYC, or was it requested immediately? It'd be nice to see the outcome, whatever that is, I'd like to emphasize again that trying to avoid KYC at a casino that's requesting it isn't going to end well. Even if the OP manages to withdraw some of his funds, it's not advisable to do so.

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December 29, 2023, 07:38:04 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
This could be a great idea to dodge being asked to verify your account before your withdrawal request will be processed, but also have in mind that this may not work for every casino, this can only work for casinos that have automated their system to automatically request kyc verification from users withdrawing a certain amount of money that is above the limit that the casino allows non kyced users to withdraw.

But for some other casino, most especially new casinos that still process alot of stuffs manually, trust that this strategy won't work, as they may likely request KYC verification from the user as soon he or she wins a certain amount of money considered to be good or tangible.
This is what I think, I might be wrong though.
This method doesn't work on all casinos and mind you,  the moment the balance in your account reaches the maximum trench hold in KYC casino some of them are set to automatically trigger your KYC demand and you will just receive an email from the casino asking you to provide some documents for verification and at that point it becomes mandatory for you to provide those document and if you don't have them,  you lose your balance or have to go through with getting the document from your government officials.

So if you thinking that,  by waiting until you win a bug amount before being prepared to use the less threshold withdrawal approach to bit casino KYC you may have to do rethink.
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December 29, 2023, 08:17:10 PM
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You might get away with a few small withdrawals, but certainly not possible with larger sums of money, or generally, there's no loophole around KYC; this thread is making it sound like there is. If you're unable to provide KYC, you shouldn't go ahead and participate in the first place. It won't be the casino's fault if you end up losing your money; that's something that needs to be acknowledged.

There's a loophole but to be safe gamblers shouldn't take it. Some casino allow small withdrawals without kyc verification been done. For those casino that allow that, you can withdraw smaller amounts and not get asked to provide your documents for kyc verification but there's a problems as when you do it often and get the attention of the security department of the casino, they can place you account on suspension and you'll need to complete your kyc before you'll be allow access to your money.

If the money is in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency and your kyc verify doesn't get attended to on time, you can lose when the market dumps and the value of your cryptocurrency drops. You can also get a rise in value of the coins instead of dropping but that's a risk you don't have to take that's why I said even though it's a loopholes, you don't have to take it. Just complete your kyc so you don't get issues from the casino.

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December 29, 2023, 08:45:28 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

I think you if the casino has certain threshold of total withdraw amount before the KYC is triggered.  You may withdraw some of the amount but once you meet the threshold then you have to comply with the KYC requirement in order to continue withdrawing your fund.  You may use this kind of loophole (withdrawing small amount) since some casinos that never bother gambler who withdraw with small amount but once they detect some irregular activities, like you keep on withdrawing even without playing on their site, they might consider looking at the balance of your account and eventually asked you for KYC.
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December 29, 2023, 08:52:18 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
This could be a great idea to dodge being asked to verify your account before your withdrawal request will be processed, but also have in mind that this may not work for every casino, this can only work for casinos that have automated their system to automatically request kyc verification from users withdrawing a certain amount of money that is above the limit that the casino allows non kyced users to withdraw.

But for some other casino, most especially new casinos that still process alot of stuffs manually, trust that this strategy won't work, as they may likely request KYC verification from the user as soon he or she wins a certain amount of money considered to be good or tangible.
This is what I think, I might be wrong though.
This method doesn't work on all casinos and mind you,  the moment the balance in your account reaches the maximum trench hold in KYC casino some of them are set to automatically trigger your KYC demand and you will just receive an email from the casino asking you to provide some documents for verification and at that point it becomes mandatory for you to provide those document and if you don't have them,  you lose your balance or have to go through with getting the document from your government officials.

So if you thinking that,  by waiting until you win a bug amount before being prepared to use the less threshold withdrawal approach to bit casino KYC you may have to do rethink.
There would really be always those threshold thing on which on the time that you do reach up a specific amount on which it did touch up those numbers then expect that the platform could really be asking out for some KYC and this is something that we should really be prepared about. If we do tend to look back and read those terms and conditions then we would really be able to see that they are really that being stated on there.This is why it would really be always better that you should really be wary about those probabilities even if we do speak about those legitimate platforms on which there would really be no assurance that you cant be asked out for some KYC on the time that you would be able to win up some significant amount. So it would be always be that prepared or anticipating that it would really be happening.

If it turns out that you do able to pull out those winnings without being questions asked then its good for you since you dont need to pass those KYC or identification thingy but
if it turns out that it would really be doing or asking it out then you would be having no choice. Actually its not really that something questionable whether you would comply or not
specially if the amount involved is significant then people would really be complying it right away without questions asked.  Grin

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December 29, 2023, 09:00:51 PM
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There's a loophole but to be safe gamblers shouldn't take it. Some casino allow small withdrawals without kyc verification been done. For those casino that allow that, you can withdraw smaller amounts and not get asked to provide your documents for kyc verification but there's a problems as when you do it often and get the attention of the security department of the casino, they can place you account on suspension and you'll need to complete your kyc before you'll be allow access to your money.

If the money is in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency and your kyc verify doesn't get attended to on time, you can lose when the market dumps and the value of your cryptocurrency drops. You can also get a rise in value of the coins instead of dropping but that's a risk you don't have to take that's why I said even though it's a loopholes, you don't have to take it. Just complete your kyc so you don't get issues from the casino.
Just because there are loopholes doesn't mean we should take advantage of them. That's a serious risk, and it's threatening our account and our funds to be withheld. You're practically breaking their TOS, which you agreed upon registering. If you're unable to submit KYC, for whatever reason, you shouldn't sign up in the first place. Find an alternative that works for you. I'm not quite sure if there are any casinos that do not require KYC; if there are, use that one instead.

I understand concerns regarding KYC, but I find it a little exaggerated in the OP's case, unless he's unable to verify due to being under 18 or from a prohibited country.

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December 29, 2023, 09:01:50 PM
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If it turns out that you do able to pull out those winnings without being questions asked then its good for you since you dont need to pass those KYC or identification thingy but
if it turns out that it would really be doing or asking it out then you would be having no choice. Actually its not really that something questionable whether you would comply or not
especially if the amount involved is significant then people would really be complying it right away without questions asked.  Grin
We have a few casinos that have allowed gamblers to withdraw high amounts without KYC even though those casinos are regulatory compliance because it has shown that not only the high amount of winnings alone that triggers KYC but also if a player already has good game history on the casinos and the account have not done any action that will make the casino to suspect it activities such accounts are freed many times to go without KYC at some point.

So if you see such cases of withdrawal without being asked for kyc it means that the player has a good reputation and gambling history with Rye Casino and at that, there is no reason to doubt the account.
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December 29, 2023, 09:08:24 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

Casino has tiers of customers verification. With your email verification, password and account security set up should give you the basic requirements to withdraw some dollars but most of the time, it follows basic kyc before you can withdraw and if you want to go for high tier, they will ask for extra documents I think but just know that most casinos now these days they always require a KYC before you can withdraw your winnings.

My advice is this, before you bet in any casino, check well if the casino need kyc verification before you can withdraw, if it's required please do it or kindly ignore the casino in time otherwise the moment you stake or wager any amount and win and you want to withdraw, they will ask you to do it and thr chance of acceptance will be low, that's when they start playing smart just to keep you in the casino and even if you win a million dollars, they wouldn't allow you to withdraw and you probably can't do anything because you signed up to their terms and conditions.

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December 29, 2023, 09:24:47 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.
If you don’t want to do kyc, you should not play at casinos that require one. It’s important to read the TOS of the casino so you don’t run into problems later. A couple of things can make a casino flag your account for suspicious activity and request for your personal information. And withdrawal of sums above $10k is one of them, you may not experience such difficulty when making deposits but be sure you will have to complete kyc in order to withdraw from the casino. This is the casino’s own way of ensuring there isn’t any form of illegal activity or money laundering associated with their service.
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December 29, 2023, 09:26:57 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

KYC policy depends on the casino you are registered with. Some casinos requires KYC before you can be able to make withdrawal while some do not. When it comes to huge win, some casinos requires one to undergo a KYC before they would be able to access the wins.

You can not dodge KYC if a casino request that you do such neither can you decide to withdraw the money bit by bit. Casino already know your account and are bent on getting your details before releasing the funds so tell me how do you think they would allow you withdraw.

From some comments which I have read, I see a reason to believe that a gambler reputation could also be an advantage to withdraw without KYC which I strongly believe. Possibly there could be a clean record as it pertains the gambler activities onboard the casino which have been built over the years with the casino. Only on such grounds, would the casino be moved to release big win to such gambler. OP, I believe you would understand very well after reading all the comments as it deals with your inquiries.

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December 29, 2023, 09:44:26 PM
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If you want to bypass KYC the best way is probably playing in cassinos that don’t have it at first place

Your strategy is good and it may work but its not fool proof, you may have the account blocked until KYC is done so take it into account…

This is the right answer.

Most casinos nowadays require KYC due to stringent regulations being imposed on most countries that allow online gambling websites to be operated. But if you try to bypass KYC by withdrawing small amounts of BTC, not only that it would be very expensive (high costs of TX fees) but it may also put your own account and funds in danger.

Remember that every casino has their respective TOS and if you breach any of those provisions, the online gambling platform can legally ban your account and withhold your winnings/funds without any notice.

In conclusion, if you truly want to avoid KYC, then register only in a gambling casino that does NOT have any KYC to begin with.

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December 29, 2023, 10:43:24 PM
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If you want to bypass KYC the best way is probably playing in cassinos that don’t have it at first place

Your strategy is good and it may work but its not fool proof, you may have the account blocked until KYC is done so take it into account…

This is the right answer.

Most casinos nowadays require KYC due to stringent regulations being imposed on most countries that allow online gambling websites to be operated. But if you try to bypass KYC by withdrawing small amounts of BTC, not only that it would be very expensive (high costs of TX fees) but it may also put your own account and funds in danger.

Remember that every casino has their respective TOS and if you breach any of those provisions, the online gambling platform can legally ban your account and withhold your winnings/funds without any notice.

In conclusion, if you truly want to avoid KYC, then register only in a gambling casino that does NOT have any KYC to begin with.

No I don't think this is the right answer because as soon as a casino claims to not conduct KYC ever, it means that the casino is operating in a grey zone or is illegally operating anyway. If they are, what options does a player have when the casino denies withdrawals and claims you have violated their terms of service? How do you take action against a casino that you knew would be operating under illegal terms? I don't think there is a casino that is allowed to offer their services without any KYC preocedueres whatsoever. But if they do, what keeps them from scamming the user when someone wins big time? This is really a bad trade-off as I would rather have a casino KYC me that I know is operating legally than trying to get my money out of a platform that wasn't legal in the first place. The "No-KYC"-promise is worth nothing. It's even worse than a casino stating nothing about KYC.

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December 29, 2023, 10:54:12 PM
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Is it possible one can dodge KYC verification request after winning a big amount of money and decides not to withdraw a lump sum but bit by bit in smaller amounts. I have read many posts talking about how they wanted to withdraw the money they won but due to the amount they wanted to withdraw was big, they were asked  pass kyc verification because they never did when they first registered.

Why dodged? The goal and purpose is to get that big money as much as possible. Even if we don't like the idea of doing KYC, what else can we do? Even if you do withdrawals in smaller amounts, if these casinos ask to get KYC, then follow and comply. Don't be afraid to do KYC if the said gambling site is somehow reputable and licensed. Don't overreact to the possible data breach. What matters and is an important thing here, is that we get our big money winnings.

In the first place, you should know and understand the terms that KYc might be asked once you play on any gambling site.
If you would really be tending to have that kind of method then it does really mean that we dont really have that trust on the site. I cant blame on someone to be that paranoid but it would really be that just be applied into those sites which arent really that trusted on which means that you are testing out those sites arent reputable because if we are dealing with sites which are reputable then you wont really be having those kind of doubts on which it is really that wise that we should play into those platforms which can be trusted or had been known into this market. Of course we would really be that wanting to pull out all of the winnings that we do have.
Not all gamblers would really be planning on spending their winnings back and definitely people or gamblers would really be planning to cash it out all.

Even myself wont really be that having doubts when it comes on cashing out. Dont need on trying out to evade or being hesitant if you do know that you are dealing on the right place.
Just like i have said earlier that you wont really be having doubts if you are dealing with a trusted platform or company.

Then change your approach starting from now towards those new sites.

From now on, always try to read the terms of anything about verification as it might be an issue for you in the future. It's already an obvious action that before testing a new site, that is not even reputable, always take caution about everything including the terms of KYC.

And besides, isn't that usual to just know every side of the new site before testing it?
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December 29, 2023, 11:53:27 PM
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may work but still depends on the casino, I mean, there are casino that has a rule where they will ask the gambler to do KYC if they request a withdrawal for a certain amount of money but they can still also ask you to perform KYC despite only withdrawing in small amounts. also, if you've been here in the forum long enough I am pretty sure you've seen threads about gamblers being asked to perform KYC despite only withdrawing a small amount of money.

Some rules in the gambling site will be the essential one,because the KYC alone make the gambling site free from the money laundering.Because the KYC includes the selfie verification feature along with your KYC.So if the gambling account get the issue of money laundering in your account,It help them to find the real person involved in the money laundering.Because it will reduce the chance of the gambling site getting banned because of the individual gamblers cheating on the gambling using the money laundering.The small amount withdraw from the gambling site will not required most of the time KYC,So gambling site also allow low amount of money to withdraw without KYC.
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All casinos are different, 1 casino may make passing kyc mandatory upon signing up while others make you pass kyc on a big wd, withdrawals totaling certain amount in a day, or a certain amount of money won. They are all different and there is no way to bypass anything, basically don'y sign up if you can't or do not want to pass kyc.

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Requesting for KYC is not because of your big win, it's because of the withdrawal you're making request for, if you like, be making small withdrawals and if you also like, make the withdrawal at once, what is certain is that when they requested KYC from you and you're unable to make provision of it, you won't have access to make withdrawals, don't even think of dodging them by making false or incomplete provisions on what has been requested, else they may block your account.
Not literally the withdrawal process but rather the amount on his balance he will gonna withdraw. Normal amount withdrawal will not gonna trigger KYC so both the winning big(huge balance) and the withdrawal process are the factors which KYC triggers.

KYC(Know Your Customer) is just a process for recording customers details to counter money laundering. It’s either busting current money laundering act or for future reference once the authorities ask them for records of certain players.
So normal amount for withdrawing not required with KYC? I think is good option for gambler want to make privacy their document linked with gambling platform account without submit document for withdrawing fund but withdraw with normal amount. Will casino or gambling platform allow with this ideas when have some user won huge amount in gambling?
Still my questionable about rule form casino indeed normal amount withdrawing or not when winning huge amount always required for KYC or some time account suddenly got suspend without any cheat or abnormal activities happening with account gambling.

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So normal amount for withdrawing not required with KYC? I think is good option for gambler want to make privacy their document linked with gambling platform account without submit document for withdrawing fund but withdraw with normal amount. Will casino or gambling platform allow with this ideas when have some user won huge amount in gambling?
Still my questionable about rule form casino indeed normal amount withdrawing or not when winning huge amount always required for KYC or some time account suddenly got suspend without any cheat or abnormal activities happening with account gambling.
If the withdrawal amount is still below the minimum limit for not doing KYC, gamblers can withdraw their money without needing to do KYC. But when the money you want to withdraw becomes larger and exceeds the limit, the casino may ask the gambler to do KYC. There may still be trusted casinos that don't bother or ask for KYC for gamblers who want to withdraw their money without having to do KYC because they are still within the permitted withdrawal limits. But if casinos still ask for KYC from gamblers, gamblers will have to do KYC. After all, the gambler who gambles at the casino chooses his own casino without doing any research so he doesn't know that there is KYC that he has to do when he wants to withdraw his money.

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December 30, 2023, 08:06:17 AM
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Wouldn't the casino be recording how much you're withdrawing? And even if you try that they would know right and then they will be notified plus I assume you're going to do it consis which means they're going to see you having a pattern of how you withdraw which might make them suspicious of your account as someone that's doing something illegal. Are you ready for the potential headaches that would come with this plan because you're going be spending so much time with this plan.



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