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January 03, 2024, 08:48:57 AM
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Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
It would be a misconception to say that gambling is 100% reliant on luck, luck is only an expression and we can't possibly rely on it alone. You first know what you want to gamble on and give some effort/skills to gamble for it to work for you before you even talk about luck. There must be an effort to build gambling skills as you might call it and put the skills into action when you gamble, not that you just do anyhow without any knowledge of what you are doing and expect luck to help you. It doesn't work like that.

In reality, Lotto is one of the plays in casinos that needs a whole lot of skills, I mean mathematical skills and not luck. This depends on the kind of Lotto we are as well. Specifically about the one I witnessed in my country that people play most, there are calculations to how people derive their outcomes, and people often get this only through the calculations. They would use some past results to analyze and forecast what would happen in the future. Guess what, it works for them. I have seen numerous cashouts through this approach.

Can we call this only the function of luck? I guess not.

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January 03, 2024, 09:14:05 AM
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I don't on that story, so in my opinion it is not possible to win the lottery 14 times using the mathematic calculations unless make cheats. I will say that the person saying lie and he did get get of cheating rather than I dono't  think that it is possible to win using the mathematical calculations. Gambling is all about ot luck
Math genius should be a billionaire by now if they really have the solutions to solve this and hit the jackpot.
Though we already have the numbers on how many combinations in lottery, but when it comes to calculations, I guess we are still far from this and the system of lottery still works so we might not see the 14 times of winning by just using mathematics, I can't imagine how corrupt the system is if this happens.
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January 03, 2024, 09:34:46 AM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.
I don't love clicking links, but I think the guy is full of shit. There is no way to be that lucky unless it's rigged IMO.
Am with you on this because the chances of possibilities is so slim that I would call whatever that occured a well plan event between someone on the inside or rigged somehow because there's no way that someone would win 14 at different times not talk of winning it on a row. This story is just too bogus for me to believe.
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January 03, 2024, 09:58:16 AM
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It's lottery, something that should find you luckily on it's own, it's not something someone should have in their head all the time, life doesn't work this way, it's a shame that people have their heads wrapped in such superstition, I know, people do win the lottery, but that's out of millions, and no! I don't want to get this in my head, it's not safe.

Whatever calculations you may have, I have no interest in trying to win the lottery, the luck of winning lottery is even more harder than gambling on a casino, and you believe you have a math calculation that could solve it? Good luck with that, even if you do, why are you sharing though? If it works you should be a multi millionaire by now.

Don't claim something do works when you haven't use it to change your own life, or have you? If yes is the answer let's see what you have down with the money, and also a prove that you do win the lottery using your math.

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January 03, 2024, 10:15:51 AM
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I think this might just be just nonsense, as some friends here have said, after all it is impossible for someone to win consecutively or it could be that he is possibly collaborating with someone inside who was involved in his win or indeed he bought a lot of lottery tickets with a high chance of winning. for him to win continuously from the lottery, even in fact no one wins more than once in the lottery game.

Unless there really is luck in someone who has that lottery ticket, even if someone wins more than once, it could be that they have a lot of lottery tickets with a high chance of winning or they are collaborating with the organizers to cheat, but it doesn't seem to make sense to use Mathematical calculations can get a lottery win with 14 wins. to be honest that sounds like bullshit too.  Grin

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January 03, 2024, 10:29:20 AM
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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

Lol, but if you read the link you posted,

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Mandel would later declare bankruptcy in 1995, before spending the next decade running various investment schemes.

So even if he as won 14x in a supposedly lottery, then why the guy declared backruptcy?

Most likely there's more into the story and I don't think that he beat the system. He also bet with some investors money but obviously the return is not good. And I can't find that he won first place 14 times, he could have won 2nd, 3rd prizes and and it could add to the money that the group won.

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January 03, 2024, 10:39:39 AM
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If only by mathematical calculations someone can win the lottery 14 times in a row, that means that the average person who is smart in mathematics can do that, but in reality until now I have rarely heard of people who are smart in mathematics winning the lottery. So I think he's smart in math and it has nothing to do with his win, he's just trying to find an alibi for his win by saying that "I'm good at math", when what actually happened was that he found a loophole in a lottery game and took advantage of it along with his syndicate.

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January 03, 2024, 10:39:53 AM
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Riggedddd. RIGGEEEDDD. At least in this current era. Did a bit of searching and it seem slike it's a really old event? Back when rules still had loopholes that people can take advantage of, which this guy did imo. He basically set up a few rules that the lottery had to fall under and he played his tickets based on that (not to mention that you can print your own damn ticket back then which makes things a LOT easier). Not to mention that he spent quite a LOT of money to buy tickets since it'd probably fall under millions to take into account every possible winning combination. Seems like he even took in investors for this scheme. I'd say skill, but really, it's more like bruteforcing than anything else.

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January 03, 2024, 10:53:03 AM
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Speaking about possibility or rather probability, there is a chance that it is possible only the chances are very slim to the extent that it can even be regarded as impossible or even 'insignificantly possible'. This partly due to the fact than lotteries are more of luck than math and even those who use math still have to be of good experience.

However if we take the math for example, assuming both winning and Lossing to both have a 0.5 (1/2) chance, to make 14 consecutive wins would amount to a probability of (0.5)¹⁴ or (1/2)¹⁴. In decimal, this is so small it can even be seen as insignificant.

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Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am  a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230


Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

Well in the end he went bankrupt and in fact, filed for bankruptcy in 1995 his method cannot be duplicated anymore because the US authorities and other lotto authorities worldwide have banned his method, and the lottery industry made sure that the Mandel method cannot be implemented, it becomes possible because he has investors and they are well organized to make sure that they bet all the possible combinations that will come out.
It's impossible to implement that method now because it will trigger an alarm when one individual or organization is attempting to buy all the combinations in the lottery.

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People can win multiple times as we witnessed in their lives they won multiple times to become successful in any field they choose to be. This is not everybody could have of course. because only those few people are lucky enough because of their persistence and consistency in doing what they really love or what they want to become. In such a scenario, I think he just has been bet multiple times and ended up winning because of that or he just has the albino bat possibilities, and as we witnessed, this is a kind of fate he has from the start.

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So it means he beats the lottery system? I am not really sure of this unless he is cheating. It is impossible to win 14x in the lottery unless that person is very lucky, which is again close to impossible. Also if you win the lottery you won't bet again, unless this kind of lottery is just a small win. I haven't read the article but I just based it on the title. If that person is only using formulas to win the lottery then for sure there are tons of bright minds who have even made a computer program to calculate it easily and win.
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Well, I have been gambling for some years now, and I have partake in different kinds of gambling, including slot, sports, and lotteries, both offline and online. With my years of experience in gambling, I cannot believe what the OP has described; it is very impossible to win lotteries 14 times with any sort of mathematical calculation. Either rigging was involved or some sort of mystical power was used, if at all possible. Another thing I am thinking of is that it might also be an error from the Lotto company. If he truly has a mathematical trick that he uses to win more often in lotteries, then it should be something he can be doing all the time, right? That will confirm he is telling the truth. Also, if he can actually use those tricks to win in slot games or any kind of game that I will choose for him to play, then that will confirm what he is saying.

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Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.


It was well planned he could not have pulled it off if he did not have investors willing to invest in his idea but because of his plan the lottery industry learned that it's possible to cheat the lottery so they banned this method to make it even to all bettors, this kind Mandel will not work anymore in the modern lottery because the surveillance system of the lotto machine can trace what outlets is buying bulks and lottery companies with the help of the government will not allow a company that was set up just to cheat the lottery.

A lottery is very popular in many countries and it thrives on trust if people do not trust the lottery system it will go bankrupt, the lottery should be clean from manipulation people are buying tickets because they trust that every ticket has an equal chance.

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January 03, 2024, 01:54:22 PM
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As we know gambling is basically luck based game and not an expert or professionalism because if it was that professionalism we have lots of people over here that has deep their heads into gamble for them to constantly win but no, instead it turns out to be regular lost. Just as yahoo62278 except it's all being rigged over 14 times. This impression keeps luring people into gambling with the mindset they would often win but at later ends turns out to be losing always.
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Luck may be on the gambler's side sometimes, but if the gambler does not realize that they have got what they want and must immediately stop gambling, they will only lose more money. But if it has anything to do with mathematics, I don't know, especially since I need help understanding mathematics, which is too complicated.

But we don't know the truth about it. He may have been lucky so he could win 14 times or he used other methods we don't know about. We only know that lottery games are purely games of luck. So we can only depend on luck, which makes people come back to the lottery game to try to win the prize money.

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January 03, 2024, 02:35:08 PM
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Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be  winner or there is a particular skill needed.

It was made possible because of an organized group headed by Mandel buying all the combinations, this scheme is not good and it will ruin the reputation of the lottery system It is good that it was stopped because if not only big corporations create an exploit so they will be the one vying for the top prizes, I understand this scheme is now banned, I'm surprised that its possible to buy all combinations but its need a lot of manpower and resources.
Some people are very cunning to come out with a scheme just to make money, I hope lottery organizers will make sure such a similar scheme will not exist, if they do it will ruin people's trust.
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I prefer to call it an exploit, it takes an imaginative mind to come out with a plan to launch a lottery firm to buy all the combinations, it takes a lot of money and a good logistic to do that if this was not stopped just imagine lotteries will lose its appeal to the masses and only corporations will win all the prizes it will become the battle of the corporations.
Good to know based on the article you provided that the authorities have banned this method, but we never if in other countries a group or organization is doing this, the lottery should be for the masses and not for groups to exploit.

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January 03, 2024, 04:48:37 PM
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i was skeptical that it wasn't just simple calculations with mathematics, because to get 14x winnings in the lottery was quite difficult considering that the lottery was a game with a low probability of winning, unless he had godly luck maybe he could achieve that.

maybe he and his friends found a loophole in the lottery platform he was playing on and used it to their advantage, maybe that's what he did. because if he believes he can win with only mathematical calculations, why did he go bankrupt in the end and choose to exile himself, why not just go to another country and do the same thing. that doesn't make sense.

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January 03, 2024, 07:21:58 PM
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It seems like you have answered it yourself and you said that lottery is based on luck.

what I know, even though I rarely or never buy lottery tickets, is that this type of gambling is actually based on pure luck, even though some people believe that mathematics or whatever can increase the chances of getting the jackpot. but I have never believed anyone who said that winning streaks in lottery betting types, even as in the article, winning 14 times is a very ridiculous thing.
let's look at the many gamblers who buy lottery tickets for several months or even years and never get the jackpot because it's about pure luck and from what I said it is proof that the 14 consecutive winning streak in the lottery is just a myth. unless maybe he is a former gambling employee and knows a loophole to get the jackpot.

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