[Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title

[mu_enrico]

It feels good man when Loma wins as he deserves it! He still has his mojo despite being 36 years old, I wonder if he still wants to compete again after this...

“If you are talking about ages in boxing, and weight classes, I agree…..I’m [an] old man,” Lomachenko said. “But heavyweight? At 36 a lot of heavyweights can start at this age. But my career is almost done, of course. How many years it’s going to be, one, two, three, that’s it. But I still think I have a little bit of power. It’s a hard question [when will I retire exactly]. At this stage, every fight is hard. It’s hard to recover after fights. I don’t know what will happen with my body after this fight and that’s why I can’t give you an answer to this question [of when I will retire].”

Source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/lomachenko-vs-kambosos-loma-says-his-career-is-almost-done-its-hard-to-recover-after-fights/277806

Not sure if I want him to fight Tank or Shakur, but he definitely wants to challenge another big fish if he still does not retire.

Congrats to the winners (bettors), anyone able to predict like a KO/TKO in round 10-12?

Most people bet on winning by decision I guess, I didn't foresee KO/TKO as well, lol.

[serjent05]

Congrats to the winners (bettors), anyone able to predict like a KO/TKO in round 10-12?

Most people bet on winning by decision I guess, I didn't foresee KO/TKO as well, lol.

I also thought that the fight would end via decision but was surprised when Kambosos fell on his knee after a body shot.  It was a great fight and it is great to see Loma's tactical moves dominating the fight.  It is great to see him holding a title again.

That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.

Lomachenko still possesses that matrix-like move that we come to know I cannot keep up with my eyes with his movement, very fast and quick Kambosos cannot keep up; he tries everything but to no avail until Loma finds an opening in the 11th round it was a masterful performance.

Loma is too much for Kambosos, not a single thought that Kambosos will win against Loma if the fight ends up in a decision, I only think of Kambosos winning if he landed a lucky punch that will render Loma unable to continue but it happens the other way around.

[bbc.reporter]

@serjent05. If the body punches of Kambosos during rounds 1 to 5 became effective against Lomachenko, I reckon this might have given him a chance. However, beginning on the 6th round, Lomachenko began to be more aggressive and I was very shocked that he was continuing this until the technical knockout on the 11th round.

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

[Viscore]

Loma seemed to be having problem with quick fighters as he loss to Haney, so if I would choose whom he'll fight next, I'd choose Davis as the latter loves to engage and even if Loma is older than him, I think I would bet on him if he's the underdog.

I think that is a bad style matchup for Tank. The only reason Loma hasn’t been more dominant at lightweight, like he was in lower divisions, is because he is always at a size disadvantage. With Loma being taller than Tank, he will be able to use his angles and distance more effectively. Tank will get easily outboxed, his only chance is to land a big knockout punch. I only wish Tank had this desire to fight Loma when Loma was younger, but he blatantly ducked him and his promoter Floyd as well as Leonard Ellerbe came up with all kinds of stupid excuses why they wouldn’t make the fight.

If Tank is actually serious about wanting this fight, it can easily be made with one phone call by Bob Arum and Turki Alalshikh. We will see if Al Haymon will actually allow it or if we’ll be seeing Tank against another in-house cherry pick after he beats Frank Martin.

That's what I want to see so Loma's name will be at the conversation again because he slowly losses his popularity after he got defeated by Lopez, but now that he is the champion again, he can go with anyone as Loma doesn't his opponent, ducking opponent is not his game. Maybe Tank or probably a rematch with Lopez would be fine, both would produce a firepower fight and the fans would love it.

[bisdak40]

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

[Slow death]

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs George Kambosos

I didn't watch this fight live, but I was able to watch a replay of the fight, and it's better to watch a replay of a fight because the person knows that they won the fight, so when the person is watching the replay of the fight they are just trying to understand why the fighter x won, the surprise factor would be lost. But anyway, from what I could see from the replay of the fight, Vasiliy Lomachenko seemed to me to be in control of the rhythm of the fight from the beginning, he was in an attacking position most of the time, but George Kambosos Jr. was also fighting well in the first few rounds, I was in a defensive position waiting for Vasiliy Lomachenko to attack and then make a quick counter attack, but as time went by, Vasiliy Lomachenko was throwing more punches at George Kambosos Jr., it was visible on George Kambosos' face Jr. that Vasiliy Lomachenko's punches were causing him damage and the longer the fight went on, the more George Kambosos Jr.'s situation became bad

'This guy is one of the best of all time,' Kambosos said after the bout.

'We tried our best, but he's a good champion. He deserves that belt. I gave it my all.

'I'm still alive, I'm still standing. I ain't dead.'

source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-13408733/Vasily-Lomachenko-defeats-Australian-George-Kambosos-world-title-showdown-deserves-belt.html

knowing how to recognize defeat and congratulate the opponent, is something that all athletes should do, but currently few athletes do this because of marketing, after they lose fights they show more radical attitudes towards the opponent to generate a lot of attention in the media and brand themselves. a revenge.

Congratulations Vasiliy Lomachenko

[inthelongrun]

Loma at his current age is still a little faster than Haney. The issue with Loma is he is a slow starter because he wants to measure and observe his opponents before trying to execute his plans and strategies. Haney hugs a lot while Loma isn't which is why Kambosos has nowhere to go but to get stopped in the late rounds after being broken down methodically.

As for what's next. Kambosos might continue to fight but after wear and tear and blue prints on how to beat him, he might not become a champion again. I like Loma to retire. He is still good but obviously not in his prime anymore and I hate him getting exploited by the younger fighters.

[bbc.reporter]

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.

[inthelongrun]

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.

The best way to assess the fight is to score while watching it mate. But if you did, what's your score on that fight? It's hard to say that it is correct to call it a split decision because if you had it very close in your scorecard then it could be a close unanimous, split, majority in the judges cards. Two judges had it 7-5 while the other had it surprisingly 8-4.

I stopped watching the second half and did not watch the replay. Upon seeing the per round punch stats, it's a draw for me. Anyways, both are now in different divisions and Loma might retire anytime while Haney is still young.

[Dave1]

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

Yes, will be hard for time to unify not only because of his age but boxing politics as well. And his boss might have a hard time negotiating against Shakur as he is no longer with Top Rank or left Bob Arum already. And then against Tank Davis, we might want to be the A-side against Loma.

At least Loma finally gets a 135 lbs, hard to see him crying when he lost against Haney.

But this time, he won and can finally have that tears of joy.

[TravelMug]

@serjent05. If the body punches of Kambosos during rounds 1 to 5 became effective against Lomachenko, I reckon this might have given him a chance. However, beginning on the 6th round, Lomachenko began to be more aggressive and I was very shocked that he was continuing this until the technical knockout on the 11th round.

What's shocking is that Loma is a slow starter, and maybe he really learn from that in his lost against Haney or even in his fight against Teo Lopez. So he become aggressive since round 1 and doesn't want to comeback in the last 6 rounds and maybe he will not get the benefit of the score card from the judges as this is Kambosos territory.

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Tank and Shakur is targeting Loma, but we will see, both of them have fights in the next coming months and hopefully if they win, we will hear them calling out Loma for their next fight and hopefully it can be set up by Top Rank as time is running out for Loma.

[Natalim]

Tank and Shakur is targeting Loma, but we will see, both of them have fights in the next coming months and hopefully if they win, we will hear them calling out Loma for their next fight and hopefully it can be set up by Top Rank as time is running out for Loma.

Great if that will happen. Loma is good against a boxer that is shorter than him, so I guess he'll give a good fight either of these two undefeated champions. Both are great match for Loma, but he can take it one boxer at at time, whoever goes first, if Loma win he can go with the 2nd champion. Just imagine if that would happen, Loma would continue to soar and will be recognize in the top pound for pound again as he might be moving up if there's no more deserving challenger in this division.

[Baofeng]

Loma at his current age is still a little faster than Haney. The issue with Loma is he is a slow starter because he wants to measure and observe his opponents before trying to execute his plans and strategies. Haney hugs a lot while Loma isn't which is why Kambosos has nowhere to go but to get stopped in the late rounds after being broken down methodically.

As for what's next. Kambosos might continue to fight but after wear and tear and blue prints on how to beat him, he might not become a champion again. I like Loma to retire. He is still good but obviously not in his prime anymore and I hate him getting exploited by the younger fighters.

Yes, and with this performance, Loma is still at top of his game, although there is question about his age, but if we will judge his performance in this fight, still elite in my opinion and Kambosos doesn't have any to answer's Loma aggressive very early.

And he really soften Kambosos early, make him tender specially in the body and when he hits it perfectly, it's hard to recover from that shot.

Loma against Shakur or Tank will be great at 135 lbs, but we will see, Arum says that they might go with Davis next.

[bbc.reporter]

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.

The best way to assess the fight is to score while watching it mate. But if you did, what's your score on that fight? It's hard to say that it is correct to call it a split decision because if you had it very close in your scorecard then it could be a close unanimous, split, majority in the judges cards. Two judges had it 7-5 while the other had it surprisingly 8-4.

I stopped watching the second half and did not watch the replay. Upon seeing the per round punch stats, it's a draw for me. Anyways, both are now in different divisions and Loma might retire anytime while Haney is still young.

I am not quite certain. It might be 7-5 that can go to Loma or Haney. Similar to what I have mentioned in my reply that you have quoted, it appears that it might be a split decision with the victory that can also go to Lomachenko.

@Baofeng. Can you share an article or a news update? It was mentioned by @bisdak40 that Bob Arum said it will be Shakur.

[btc_angela]

Tank and Shakur is targeting Loma, but we will see, both of them have fights in the next coming months and hopefully if they win, we will hear them calling out Loma for their next fight and hopefully it can be set up by Top Rank as time is running out for Loma.

Great if that will happen. Loma is good against a boxer that is shorter than him, so I guess he'll give a good fight either of these two undefeated champions. Both are great match for Loma, but he can take it one boxer at at time, whoever goes first, if Loma win he can go with the 2nd champion. Just imagine if that would happen, Loma would continue to soar and will be recognize in the top pound for pound again as he might be moving up if there's no more deserving challenger in this division.

Yes, it will be a great fight, I mean it's the youth vs the experience of Loma not just in professional fights but we all know that he has 100+ fights as amateur. And then he might not have seen the power of Tank before or the defensive genius of Shakur and we will see how Loma will adjust to this kind of boxers.

So it's really up to Top Rank and Bob Arum if he is that serious to have Loma fight either of the two and win another belt of Loma. Otherwise, it could be that Loma will have to fight his mandatory as per governing body.

[Baofeng]

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.

The best way to assess the fight is to score while watching it mate. But if you did, what's your score on that fight? It's hard to say that it is correct to call it a split decision because if you had it very close in your scorecard then it could be a close unanimous, split, majority in the judges cards. Two judges had it 7-5 while the other had it surprisingly 8-4.

I stopped watching the second half and did not watch the replay. Upon seeing the per round punch stats, it's a draw for me. Anyways, both are now in different divisions and Loma might retire anytime while Haney is still young.

I am not quite certain. It might be 7-5 that can go to Loma or Haney. Similar to what I have mentioned in my reply that you have quoted, it appears that it might be a split decision with the victory that can also go to Lomachenko.

@Baofeng. Can you share an article or a news update? It was mentioned by @bisdak40 that Bob Arum said it will be Shakur.

Here is Bob Arum as who is the potential next fight for Loma.



So Bob Arum mentions two name "potentially" to be the next fight and we all know who it is, Tank Davis and Shakur Stevenson. Really boils down as what will be the best option for Loma, money wise here.

[inthelongrun]

Loma at his current age is still a little faster than Haney. The issue with Loma is he is a slow starter because he wants to measure and observe his opponents before trying to execute his plans and strategies. Haney hugs a lot while Loma isn't which is why Kambosos has nowhere to go but to get stopped in the late rounds after being broken down methodically.

As for what's next. Kambosos might continue to fight but after wear and tear and blue prints on how to beat him, he might not become a champion again. I like Loma to retire. He is still good but obviously not in his prime anymore and I hate him getting exploited by the younger fighters.

Yes, and with this performance, Loma is still at top of his game, although there is question about his age, but if we will judge his performance in this fight, still elite in my opinion and Kambosos doesn't have any to answer's Loma aggressive very early.

And he really soften Kambosos early, make him tender specially in the body and when he hits it perfectly, it's hard to recover from that shot.

Loma against Shakur or Tank will be great at 135 lbs, but we will see, Arum says that they might go with Davis next.

Based on that fight, Loma can still give a good fight against the other champions. I also read something that Bob hinted of fighting Tank although I forgot the source and it could be unreliable. Surely, the easiest fight to make is against Navarette, in case the former 3 division wins the vacant WBO belt this weekend. Shakur only has 1 fight remaining at Top Rank and I doubt Bob offers him Loma unless he signs a new deal. The coward Tank Davis finally showed interest against this 36-year old version of Loma. It could be a bluff but if not, PBC has to give Bob something significant because Loma at this stage is most likely the underdog.

Anyways, Loma said he will decide on what's next for his career after taking a rest and feeling his body. Moneywise, it's Tank or Navarette for Loma but of course Bob and ESPN have their rights as well.

[bbc.reporter]

@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.

[Baofeng]

@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.

It could be a done deal, with Loma vs Shakur, but unfortunately Shakur is thinking of not re-signing his contract with Top Rank which is up to July 6. But Top Rank can still hostage Shakur, they can say to him sign with us again and we will guarantee a fight with Loma.

And that's why it might be Tank first if Shakur doesn't want to extend his contract with Bob Arum and Top Rank.

I think it will still be good for Loma's legacy to fight Tank Davis first. Will not change a thing and then if Shakur still wants a piece of Loma then maybe he will be next or Bob Arum skipping him totally.

[Japinat]

@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.

It could be a done deal, with Loma vs Shakur, but unfortunately Shakur is thinking of not re-signing his contract with Top Rank which is up to July 6. But Top Rank can still hostage Shakur, they can say to him sign with us again and we will guarantee a fight with Loma.

And that's why it might be Tank first if Shakur doesn't want to extend his contract with Bob Arum and Top Rank.

I think it will still be good for Loma's legacy to fight Tank Davis first. Will not change a thing and then if Shakur still wants a piece of Loma then maybe he will be next or Bob Arum skipping him totally.

Either one of these two would be good to see, after all, both fighters are champion and still hasn't experience a loss yet. Whatever is easy for Loma, he should go for that fight, and since he is a proven boxer already, he is not there to cherry pick opponents but to fight the best. There's still plenty of time, I hope that will happen before the year will end and if Loma wins, he could rest and continue next year.