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January 23, 2024, 11:45:12 PM |
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Hmm that is a pretty important thing when you think about it. These games are already tilted in favor of the Casino enough, so having some transparency is never hurtful tbh. Question is, what to do when it comes to online casinos, as there's really no way to know whether what you see on the screen is what's happening behind the curtain as well... I found myself to discern the reliability of an establishment based on the experience itself. For example, I started small on Dplay, and after figuring out that chances are the games aren't rigged, proceeded to bet higher amounts. I still did lose some, but also managed to win some too
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January 23, 2024, 11:57:16 PM |
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I hadn't heard that before, but for me transparency builds trust. I wouldn't be entirely comfortable playing dice at a casino that didn't use transparent ones. But yeah, I got your point that rigging is still possible even with transparency, it doesn’t guarantee fairness alone, we don’t know the quality of materials used and the manufacturing process unless we know how to check and verify it. might make it harder to hide irregularities, but it doesn't eliminate the potential for manipulation. But out of curiosity, If I were invited to a casino and noticed they didn't use transparent dice, I would likely still play if I felt confident in the casino's overall reputation and regulatory oversight and of course just to try and experience.
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January 23, 2024, 11:58:27 PM |
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I've never even seen transparent dice in some casinos, but is it indicative of cheating? Of course, it cannot be determined casually, this also depends on how the casino gets regulation or supervision from related parties about the games and tools used.
But with the use of transparent dice will indeed provide clarity about every number that appears and everything will be visible. Professional gamblers will certainly know whether they are being cheated or not.
I don't really like to play craps, and I prefer to bet on sports betting, because it's clearer about how the club plays and there will be analysis according to the data that already exists. The game of craps only gives you luck and if you are unlucky then you will not win, there is no definite chance.
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January 24, 2024, 12:03:37 AM |
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I'm today years old when I know that there's a reason why some dice used in casinos are transparent. Even those with different colors are also transparent.
It must have been years already since I played in a brick-and-mortar casino. I cannot remember whether the dice used was transparent or not. But I doubt they're rigging it. I'm not sure, but they're government regulated. And I assume they're subjected to regular audits. Moreover, many casino players are politicians and rich and powerful people. Casinos better avoid making trouble with these patrons.
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Transparent dices ? I saw it but only do for fun or magic trick I rarely find transparent dice used for real gambling or it is just me. and this is what I talk about the transparent dice. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FXqpf1FxU2q4%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&t=665&c=7KOtagQ2aqbAZQ) I hadn't heard that before, but for me transparency builds trust. I wouldn't be entirely comfortable playing dice at a casino that didn't use transparent ones. But yeah, I got your point that rigging is still possible even with transparency, it doesn’t guarantee fairness alone, we don’t know the quality of materials used and the manufacturing process unless we know how to check and verify it. might make it harder to hide irregularities, but it doesn't eliminate the potential for manipulation.
Yep i do agree with this one. since it can build trust it can also more aesthetic in my opinion.
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Generally in most casinos, transparent dices are more like a standard or tradition used to make the whole gambling activity appear to be transparent and free from tweaks or cheating. On a normal basis, if a gambler should pick a particular number on a die for a roll for example, if the gambler should pick a single number, the odds of him winning in just one toss or spin is about 1/6 or 16.67% . So in such a case if there is cheating of any kind against the gambler's odds , that winning odds will be reduced more than that. Therefore, no gambler would want to tolerate or take chances that any roll or spin in such a game is rigged. So a transparent die would make them less worried about drop in their odds of winning.
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Most of the physical casinos I played on uses high quality dice in their table games. They are mandated and regulated by a board that directly audits and inspects the machines and equipment they use for their games. If this isn't done then they will surely get sanctioned or worse, ordered to close because they are not compliant with the regulations that are put in place to make sure that they are not cheating.
Transparent dice seems a good idea though, but if it's made out of materials that can easily be controlled, e.g. metals, you still can't be too sure whether these dice are not an element of cheating or not.
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?
Dice games may be very fun and many people like them, but when something suspicious happens and it is in the dice game then it is better to avoid it and choose another game, I sure there will be lots of games there. Betting on games that we may not really like and have various suspicions about will only make us regret it and we as gamblers who are risking money must choose games that we can really rely on. I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools. What do you think?
I also believe that it is still possible and very possible to make dadi more transparent but is it easy? Most casinos will use more modern equipment developments and of course this will only give rise to bad thoughts from gamblers, they will think that the casino has way of manipulating the game. I still find very transparent dice here, it is done manually and really doesn't use any tools, they still use traditional methods. But I don't really like it because it can cost more money in short time.
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January 24, 2024, 07:02:15 AM |
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?
I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools. What do you think?
Believe me, transparent dice or not, I will play my thing so long as it is a physical casino in which I see what I am doing and no one is covering my face for it. But when it is electronic, I do not trust anything dice, I know that it is such that could be better rigged by the house. Maybe I didn't read you correctly or you didn't differentiate them clearly for us to know, but one thing that I know is that no matter how suspicious I am, if I haven't tried for some time, I might not know the truth about it. They can rig it or not, even the transparent one, I do not trust anything 100%, they might find their way to make it to their advantage. It would even be better if some people were gambling people entered, I will make sure that I study it very well to know the possibility of them rigging it. This will of course help me to make a quick judgement about the dice, but I would like to be more certain instead of being too quick to judge them. The person who invited me should be able to say much about the casino too as no one would be willing to gamble their dice if such has been suspected by their customers or the people in the neighbourhood.
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i think that whether the dice are transparent or not, it's the same, because if the casino wants to cheat from the start, they can do it regardless of whether the dice are transparent or not, surely they have a way to increase their winnings.
therefore, always play at a casino that is directly supervised by the gaming commission so that your chances of being cheated can be reduced. because usually casinos that are regulated and supervised by the gaming commission provide games that are quite trustworthy, so players can gamble without worrying about being cheated.
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In a casino, no one can cheat because the dice are clear. When the dice are clear, it seems like everything is fair, but it's not. I might not trust a casino if there aren't any clear coins there. Many things, like other customers' reviews, the casino's image, and how well it follows the rules, can make or break its reliability. To learn and think about these things, clear dice are needed. When I knew if I was safe playing games there.
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I think it won’t make a difference if the dice is transparent or not if you can spot a bad dice when you try it. A professional gambler would see through it right away. They probably do this just not to spook the newbie players. Since these people have no idea what they are doing, they will feel safer when they play with a transparent dice. It makes sense for the casino too because they make their money mostly from the newbie gamblers. Pros are pros because they know how to win against the house and the casino owners hate them pros.
But the casino already has the long-term edge over ALL their customers. Are you suggesting that they should employ cheating to increase their profit-margin? I believe that would be very stupid unless the "casino" is unregulated and run by frauds. A legitimate casino run by actual business people would never risk the business because they already know their edge. Plus taking the risk of getting caught, going to prison, and destroying one's reputation for short-term gain will never be worth the higher profit-margin. Another viewpoint, the casino would be taking their customers' money much faster which could discourage them from coming back. Hahaha. The strategy should probably be, "Let them feel like winners sometimes". ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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i think that whether the dice are transparent or not, it's the same, because if the casino wants to cheat from the start, they can do it regardless of whether the dice are transparent or not, surely they have a way to increase their winnings.
therefore, always play at a casino that is directly supervised by the gaming commission so that your chances of being cheated can be reduced. because usually casinos that are regulated and supervised by the gaming commission provide games that are quite trustworthy, so players can gamble without worrying about being cheated.
True, who's gambler will play in a not-trusted casino, right? Of course, if you are a cautious gambler or person, you will search the establishment to see if it has a reputation for cheating their customers, but if you are just playing, then you're lost. because, in sad reality, no matter what establishment it is or casino, they have their way to control the money that they can lose when the customers are winning, not in the form of cheating in the sense that they will dry the customer's fund but to avoid customers getting too much win. Worry if the casino is virtual because it's easier to rig the games in an online casino as they can be programmed, so playing in a physical casino or in a physical casino is more okay if you want to make sure that you avoid casinos that cheat their customers. If you will play online gambling, then you better do sports betting because your winnings and losses will depend on the result of a match.
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... I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools. What do you think?
Anything is possible! Imagine having a team that works on that stuff and they have a nice bankroll for making their ideas real... but why would they do it? Risking reputation when in the long run they will win anyway sounds a bit stupid. I think it's hard to prove that some casinos are cheating, but if you get a feeling that some games are not fair all you can do is to move away from that casino and find some other place. In the end, it's all about trust, we either trust the casino where we spend money & time or not.
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Good day or evening to all of you. Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.
If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?
I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools. What do you think?
I this point, I don't think that anyone can rigged the dices, transparent or the old ones that we seen, the black and white. Technology is so much better now, that if the casino or even someone try to cheat by introducing their own dices, they will be caught right away. So for me, doesn't matter, if I decided to play dices, I would do it without thinking that they could have been rigged or the designed is very different from what I used to. Everything still boils down to our luck, and who knows, maybe that day, playing at that brick and mortar casinos, will bring so much money in your end.
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January 24, 2024, 09:29:23 AM |
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If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?
Using transparent dice or not doesn't make that my reference for playing, because if the casino intends to cheat, even if they use dice that are as clear as water, they will still be able to cheat. The thing that concerns me when I play at an offline casino is whether the casino has a license from a trusted authority or not. For example: - UKGC - MGA - NGCB or - Other trusted authorities. So, my answer to your question is "Yes, I will play even if it doesn't use transparent dice, as long as the casino has a license from a reputable authority".
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January 24, 2024, 09:56:00 AM |
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Good day or evening to all of you. Some days ago I was reading about casinos, specifically brick and mortar ones, and I learnt that in most of those establishments people only use dices made with transparent resins or materials, so gamblers can be sure those are not rigged to favour some number over others. That made me think about how many times I have played with dices which are not transparent, but white/black.
If you were invited to a casino to play dices or if you visited a new casino in your town and realized they do not have transparent dices, would you feel like playing there and gamble your money anyways, or would you avoid it?
I believe it would be possible still to make rigged transparent dices, but it would be much more difficult without the proper substances and tools. What do you think?
Because most gamblers, when they play dice games in the casino, don't think about that kind of thing anymore because they can only really gamble and win or just rely on luck. I'm the same thing in the casino here in crypto gambling; I never thought about what you're referring to. It's just that what I'm used to in dice games here in crypto gambling is that when I lose, I double my next bet, but I only bet on a very small amount, and I also use cryptocurrency or altcoins to match and not stablecoins.
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January 24, 2024, 10:02:12 AM |
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I mean, they already made it transparent after all, they can easily rig it with the same method they tried to get the dice itself. And they can rig it in many other ways as well since the source is themselves. Unless ofc it was supervised and provided by a supervising gambling board for that specific country, which I don't think even happens tbf but hey, the idea could be there to prevent tampering. Anyway, I don't think I'd mind. I mean if it were ever revealed I'd probably be like "damn it" but that's about it. At the end of the day I pretty much agreed to play a game rigged in the first place for the house, adding a bit more certainly doesn't seem like that big of a deal. And thinking of "what if" situations at that point is just exhausting imo.
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January 24, 2024, 02:54:52 PM |
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Maybe I'll try it for a little money. It's okay if they do it at the beginning of its launch because some people will find out about it. I will leave the casino even if I am cheated. I also won't gamble at that casino too often because I already have my favourite casino. Even though the casino does intend to cheat the people who visit its premises, it will not allow the casino to do it continuously because there are people who already know. It will warn people who frequently visit the casino to be more careful and they will not advise people to go to that casino. Someone who already understands the world of gambling will know whether a casino is fraudulent or honest, and if the casino is in our city, news of the fraud will spread quickly, and people will soon abandon the casino.
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January 24, 2024, 04:22:19 PM |
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I started this thread because the idea behind the use of transparent in Brick and mortar casinos is to reassure gamblers the dices they play with are made of an homogenenous material. Because you all know that in other to rig dices, usually the riggers need to include materials with different densities within the body of the dice, so it can favour an specific number. I thought most of people here would make a big deal of it and would say they would indeed consider the appearance of the dices and the materials of them, but it seems I was wrong and most people would not care about it.
I also agree we are not supposed to over-think whether a casino is cheating on us all times. Gambling is indeed supposed to be a positive experience and it would be difficult to enjoy anything about it if those constant thoughts of being screwed up by the house. That is another reason to stick to provably fair games in online Casinos, I guess, or even open source gambling games if they are available as well.
On the issue of regulation and licenses, they are useful, but I won't blindly trust on a certificate for a casino, specially if the casino itself is still small enough or new. Just my personal opinion or perception, though.
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