The SportsBet.io Gang

[FatFork]

I did post a link some posts above and in the original Sportsbet thread but the article is very long and tough to see lump sum payment.



https://kingcasinobonus.uk/online-casinos/microgaming-casinos/

Not only is it a lump sum but they don't pay in USDT.

But I don't see how that's relevant. Even if the information is correct (it's not from an official source as far as I can see), Microgaming is not affiliated with Games Global Limited or part of the "Games Global" brand. Moreover, on the official website, you can find information that Microgaming has sold its distribution business and online games portfolio to Games Global Limited in 2022.  
https://www.microgaming.co.uk/microgaming-closes-acquisition-of-distribution-business-and-games-portfolio/

So it seems that you are making accusations and jumping to conclusions based on outdated information that may or may not be true.

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[Rating Place]

I did post a link some posts above and in the original Sportsbet thread but the article is very long and tough to see lump sum payment.



https://kingcasinobonus.uk/online-casinos/microgaming-casinos/

Not only is it a lump sum but they don't pay in USDT.

But I don't see how that's relevant. Even if the information is correct (it's not from an official source as far as I can see), Microgaming is not affiliated with Games Global Limited or part of the "Games Global" brand. Moreover, on the official website, you can find information that Microgaming has sold its distribution business and online games portfolio to Games Global Limited in 2022.  
https://www.microgaming.co.uk/microgaming-closes-acquisition-of-distribution-business-and-games-portfolio/

So it seems that you are making accusations and jumping to conclusions based on outdated information that may or may not be true.

Games Global owns the Microgaming slots. Look at the article I posted. The player won on Wheel of Wishes. There are no assumptions. I wouldn’t do that. I looked for duplicate sources before making an accusation.

One article was dated Jan. 4, 2024 on lump sum. It’s in the other thread somewhere.

Not only did I double check, we can also think of it logically. Games Global has the €2 Million seed money plus what’s collected from all the casinos. They aren’t giving that to Sportsbet to pay in USDT installments.

Edit, my linked article was updated Jan. 26, 2024. It’s current information. I read a ton of articles on these slots after Steve and Jeremy implied that I was wrong. It was Wheel of Wishes progressive slots.

I started posting at BCT in 2014. I’m not going to falsely accuse on something that can be so easily checked.

[FatFork]

I did post a link some posts above and in the original Sportsbet thread but the article is very long and tough to see lump sum payment.



https://kingcasinobonus.uk/online-casinos/microgaming-casinos/

Not only is it a lump sum but they don't pay in USDT.

But I don't see how that's relevant. Even if the information is correct (it's not from an official source as far as I can see), Microgaming is not affiliated with Games Global Limited or part of the "Games Global" brand. Moreover, on the official website, you can find information that Microgaming has sold its distribution business and online games portfolio to Games Global Limited in 2022.  
https://www.microgaming.co.uk/microgaming-closes-acquisition-of-distribution-business-and-games-portfolio/

So it seems that you are making accusations and jumping to conclusions based on outdated information that may or may not be true.

Games Global owns the Microgaming slots. Look at the article I posted. The player won on Wheel of Wishes. There are no assumptions. I wouldn’t do that. I looked for duplicate sources before making an accusation.

One article was dated Jan. 4, 2024 on lump sum. It’s in the other thread somewhere.

Not only did I double check, we can also think of it logically. Games Global has the €2 Million seed money plus what’s collected from all the casinos. They aren’t giving that to Sportsbet to pay in USDT installments.

Edit, my linked article was updated Jan. 26, 2024. It’s current information. I read a ton of articles on these slots after Steve and Jeremy said that I was wrong. It was Wheel of Wishes progressive slots.

Well, I still disagree with your judgment. Why don't you just contact Games Global for an official statement before accusing someone of lying based on speculation and unverified information?

[Rating Place]

I did post a link some posts above and in the original Sportsbet thread but the article is very long and tough to see lump sum payment.



https://kingcasinobonus.uk/online-casinos/microgaming-casinos/

Not only is it a lump sum but they don't pay in USDT.

But I don't see how that's relevant. Even if the information is correct (it's not from an official source as far as I can see), Microgaming is not affiliated with Games Global Limited or part of the "Games Global" brand. Moreover, on the official website, you can find information that Microgaming has sold its distribution business and online games portfolio to Games Global Limited in 2022.  
https://www.microgaming.co.uk/microgaming-closes-acquisition-of-distribution-business-and-games-portfolio/

So it seems that you are making accusations and jumping to conclusions based on outdated information that may or may not be true.

Games Global owns the Microgaming slots. Look at the article I posted. The player won on Wheel of Wishes. There are no assumptions. I wouldn’t do that. I looked for duplicate sources before making an accusation.

One article was dated Jan. 4, 2024 on lump sum. It’s in the other thread somewhere.

Not only did I double check, we can also think of it logically. Games Global has the €2 Million seed money plus what’s collected from all the casinos. They aren’t giving that to Sportsbet to pay in USDT installments.

Edit, my linked article was updated Jan. 26, 2024. It’s current information. I read a ton of articles on these slots after Steve and Jeremy said that I was wrong. It was Wheel of Wishes progressive slots.

Well, I still disagree with your judgment. Why don't you just contact Games Global for an official statement before accusing someone of lying based on speculation and unverified information?

It doesn’t matter to me what you do with the information. I’ve been here 10 years and I’m not making false allegations. Logically it’s insane to think that Global Games is going to hand out $38,000,000 from the $2,000,000 seed money they put in plus all the money from other casinos and give it to Sportsbet to pay in USDT installments.

I’ve done a ton of research. It’s not Sportbet’s money. The money belonged to Global Games. The individual casino NEVER pays a WowPot.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You didn't post the username of these gang members; you just posted the merit link, so let me do it for you.

Yep, and I really wish OP would go back and edit that to show the usernames instead of just posting a link to the members' merit pages.  That makes a lot of extra work for anybody who's curious enough to click on the links like I did.

I haven't read this entire thread yet (and probably won't, since I'm not interested in this particular drama), but unless LFC_Bitcoin is a merit source--which might well be the case, as he's one of the top recent merit senders--he can do whatever he wants with his sMerits.  But in his particular case, he's earned so many merits from his own posts that I don't think it's a big deal at all that he sends merits to posts that might not be substantial. 

What I don't like to see is negative feedback from members regarding issues that have little to do with someone's trade worthiness, and looking through some of the links here I did notice some of that.  But as long as the members who left such trust (like nutildah) don't have a habit of doing it, there's no reason to take any action.  So I'm not seeing a lot of wrongdoing here.

[Rating Place]

You didn't post the username of these gang members; you just posted the merit link, so let me do it for you.

Yep, and I really wish OP would go back and edit that to show the usernames instead of just posting a link to the members' merit pages.  That makes a lot of extra work for anybody who's curious enough to click on the links like I did.

I haven't read this entire thread yet (and probably won't, since I'm not interested in this particular drama), but unless LFC_Bitcoin is a merit source--which might well be the case, as he's one of the top recent merit senders--he can do whatever he wants with his sMerits.  But in his particular case, he's earned so many merits from his own posts that I don't think it's a big deal at all that he sends merits to posts that might not be substantial.  

What I don't like to see is negative feedback from members regarding issues that have little to do with someone's trade worthiness, and looking through some of the links here I did notice some of that.  But as long as the members who left such trust (like nutildah) don't have a habit of doing it, there's no reason to take any action.  So I'm not seeing a lot of wrongdoing here.

Short version of OPs misleading marketing claim. Sportsbet falsely claiming that they paid WowPot instead of Global Gaming. This is an easy one. Individual casinos NEVER pay out WowPot’s since the money isn’t theirs. The money belongs to Global Games. All kinds of evidence, pic and links above. I’m not looking to hurt anyone’s reputation by documenting. I don’t even know how it works here. That’s for the OP to run with although may have to do something if my stalker comes back. I just explained what happened, since I was mentioned in the thread, with Global Games paying out a jackpot after doing extensive verifiable research.

[Pmalek]

I haven't read this entire thread yet (and probably won't, since I'm not interested in this particular drama), but unless LFC_Bitcoin is a merit source--which might well be the case, as he's one of the top recent merit senders--he can do whatever he wants with his sMerits.

Even if he is a merit source, the only "rule" we publicly know of in relation to merit sources and their source merit distribution is that they aren't allowed to sell merits. They can distribute it any other way as far as I know. Every merit source decides for themselves what they spend their merits on. It should be quality posts, or any other posts you find pleasing for whatever reason.

[yahoo62278]

What's the end goal here? Accusing the site of merit abuse is a bit absurd as I have already stated, the red trust might need modified as far as the reason, and then an added accusation of poor marketing.

The marketing thing, I haven't looked at the back n forth if someone wants to link me to it i'll be happy to read it. Regardless, at worst a bad use of marketing but still not scamming customers.

Far as I've seen on the scam accusations, sportsbet has tried resolving quite a lot of those. You can't honestly believe that every accusation that pops up against a site is legit. Do you feel that playing on sportsbet will lead you or other customers to lose their money? Do you think the site won't pay legitimate players?

I don't feel like players are at risk at this point so I don't see the reason for this thread.

[examplens]

What's the end goal here? Accusing the site of merit abuse is a bit absurd as I have already stated, the red trust might need modified as far as the reason, and then an added accusation of poor marketing.

The marketing thing, I haven't looked at the back n forth if someone wants to link me to it i'll be happy to read it. Regardless, at worst a bad use of marketing but still not scamming customers.

They spend tens of millions on sponsorships in the Premier League, but somehow it got stuck that the disputed merit distribution is in their thread.
As far as I know, the amount of merit distributed in the Sportsbet ANN thread is almost insignificant compared to WO (which is more meaningless), but that is another story that has already been discussed.

[yahoo62278]

What's the end goal here? Accusing the site of merit abuse is a bit absurd as I have already stated, the red trust might need modified as far as the reason, and then an added accusation of poor marketing.

The marketing thing, I haven't looked at the back n forth if someone wants to link me to it i'll be happy to read it. Regardless, at worst a bad use of marketing but still not scamming customers.

They spend tens of millions on sponsorships in the Premier League, but somehow it got stuck that the disputed merit distribution is in their thread.
As far as I know, the amount of merit distributed in the Sportsbet ANN thread is almost insignificant compared to WO (which is more meaningless), but that is another story that has already been discussed.

Kinda my point though, people distribute it however they want basically. Aside from selling it, anything is pretty much allowed with merit.

Of all the arguments in this thread, the marketing of the jackpot is the only thing that IMO should have been done differently, but either way I do not feel anyone is at risk playing there.

[slaman29]

I'm coming very late to this topic by chance, hardly check reputation section but I saw Sportsbet.io mentioned.

And I kinda expected to see one username mentioned, because jeremypwr manages a lot of giveaways but I seriously doubt he's an actual employee, and it never crossed my mind to see such an accusation when clearly, in many other megathreads merits are just dumped all on daily basis, why is that a problem? I can give it to whoever I want, if I think it deserves my merit. I'm sure these users do the same.

Personally, I know LFC_Bitcoin and buwaytress also for years, if they are Sportsbet employees I will eat my BTC wallet seriously. These guys are the most helpful people, years ago I personally got help for nothing from them, education, yes even merits to help my account grow. I know for sure they still run competitions and community events for not getting paid, buwaytress also a very outspoken member of all services here. I've 100% seen him criticize Sportsbet.io and in fact for years you can even see he runs pools for RIVALS of Sportsbet.io

Why would an employee do that??

To my best knowledge they're not even getting a cent paid for their work on this forum. People should be grateful there are people like these spending their time for free to make the forum a better place. Instead, they get accused on threads like this.

We need to recognize contributions but people seem to spend more time looking to take people down. Crazy.

[Rating Place]

I'm coming very late to this topic by chance, hardly check reputation section but I saw Sportsbet.io mentioned.

And I kinda expected to see one username mentioned, because jeremypwr manages a lot of giveaways but I seriously doubt he's an actual employee, and it never crossed my mind to see such an accusation when clearly, in many other megathreads merits are just dumped all on daily basis, why is that a problem? I can give it to whoever I want, if I think it deserves my merit. I'm sure these users do the same.

Personally, I know LFC_Bitcoin and buwaytress also for years, if they are Sportsbet employees I will eat my BTC wallet seriously. These guys are the most helpful people, years ago I personally got help for nothing from them, education, yes even merits to help my account grow. I know for sure they still run competitions and community events for not getting paid, buwaytress also a very outspoken member of all services here. I've 100% seen him criticize Sportsbet.io and in fact for years you can even see he runs pools for RIVALS of Sportsbet.io

Why would an employee do that??

To my best knowledge they're not even getting a cent paid for their work on this forum. People should be grateful there are people like these spending their time for free to make the forum a better place. Instead, they get accused on threads like this.

We need to recognize contributions but people seem to spend more time looking to take people down. Crazy.

I'm with you on the merit dumping not being a big deal. Also, giving each other trust isn't that big of a deal either. One thing that I'm against is giving people negative trust for the sole reason of not agreeing with an opinion. It's "trust", not opinion. That was the second claim of the OP.

Lookin at the OP's link and to be clear, I'm not talking about any negative trust given out by holydarkness since that would be warranted. I respect holydarkness.

[JCLadisav]

This negative feedback for instance, blindly trusting whatever SB says and giving feedback based on that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3534812

If jeremypwr is not an employee, he surely doesn't know who is lying and what exactly happened and hence should not give out red trust to users complaining.

Returning the deposit is not good enough in most cases because then it's a free bet for the website. If won, they will return deposit and if lost, the bet stands.

To my best knowledge they're not even getting a cent paid for their work on this forum.

Don't assume

I can assume Patrick Mahomes doesn't get paid by Chiefs doesn't make it true.

[nutildah]

This is at least your second account made for shit talking purposes, is it not?

Fuck you and your big nothingburger of a thread.

If you had one singular functional testicle you would have posted this nonsense under your main account.

Go fuck yourself.


Sorry to everyone else but after almost 10 years here I just can't stand shittalking cowards.

[BenCodie]

This is at least your second account made for shit talking purposes, is it not?

Fuck you and your big nothingburger of a thread.

If you had one singular functional testicle you would have posted this nonsense under your main account.

Go fuck yourself.


Sorry to everyone else but after almost 10 years here I just can't stand shittalking cowards.

The OP is not making up entirely false claims so i dont think that outburst was really warranted to be honest. If this all upsets you so much, stop looking and don't waste the time that you're taking to type your tantrum?

Even I have noticed the fuckery going on with the users mentioned in the OP and the sportsbet thread over 6 months before this thread. It's not a myth, you can see the circle jerking clearly on ninjastic and through a deep look of the trust system. Proof is there, though seems like you choose not to pay any attention to those important details for some reason

There is something that could genuinely something be investigated here if there was anyone in DT who first and foremost gave a shit, was committed to protecting the integrity of this forum, was 100% not corrupt or influenced in any way by forces like sportsbet, and not fearful of tue slap they might receive by members like yourself, who for some reason always assume and defend 100% innocence for accused parties.

TLDR There would be a legitimate investigation here if anyone gave a shit enough so in my opinion, your post is both uncalled for and invalid.

[nutildah]

TLDR There would be a legitimate investigation here if anyone gave a shit enough so in my opinion, your post is both uncalled for and invalid.

You don't give a shit enough either, otherwise you would be conducting said investigation. Your post is just as useless as this thread. Besides, you missed the fact that OP already started another thread. Why didn't you chime in on that one? Its quite obvious OP works for a competing sportsbook and is just trying to shit on as many other casinos and campaign managers as possible. And you're sticking up for him. Well done.

[JCLadisav]

This is at least your second account made for shit talking purposes, is it not?

Fuck you and your big nothingburger of a thread.

If you had one singular functional testicle you would have posted this nonsense under your main account.

Go fuck yourself.


Sorry to everyone else but after almost 10 years here I just can't stand shittalking cowards.

Theymos owns the forum and he allowed the creation of new accounts to speak on sensitive matters. You can have your own views for which no one gives a fuck about, including me.

Posting from the main account matters, why? So that you can attack the account with your friends? Lol, that's the exact reason of using a throwaway account.

Guys like you are those who don't credit newbies and scratch the back of reputed members even when they talk BULLSHIT.


10 years on forum? You have NOT done any favors to anyone expect for yourself by earning money posting shit like this.



Someone wearing the signature of SHITCOIN is sad about people talking SHIT lol

[BenCodie]

TLDR There would be a legitimate investigation here if anyone gave a shit enough so in my opinion, your post is both uncalled for and invalid.

You don't give a shit enough either, otherwise you would be conducting said investigation. Your post is just as useless as this thread. Besides, you missed the fact that OP already started another thread. Why didn't you chime in on that one? Its quite obvious OP works for a competing sportsbook and is just trying to shit on as many other casinos and campaign managers as possible. And you're sticking up for him. Well done.

I do not have the privilege of having enough time to fight uphill battles. I give a shit enough to chime in. I do not give a shit enough to get into arguments with tens of members who are fighting on the other side of the truth.

I did not chime into the other thread because I haven't personally observed it, nor have I taken the time to investigate it. LoyceV can vouch that I had investigated this situation long before this thread was ever created, and I came here to share that I see where the OP is coming from because I have seen it first hand. What do you want me to do, make a thread? Who will actually give a shit since majority of DefaultTrust are corrupt or silent because they don't want to be attacked by the corrupt DTs?

I'm also not sticking up for the OP. I am only sharing that I have had the same observation long ago, and that there is legitimacy to his claims.

[JollyGood]

TLDR There would be a legitimate investigation here if anyone gave a shit enough so in my opinion, your post is both uncalled for and invalid.

You don't give a shit enough either, otherwise you would be conducting said investigation. Your post is just as useless as this thread. Besides, you missed the fact that OP already started another thread. Why didn't you chime in on that one? Its quite obvious OP works for a competing sportsbook and is just trying to shit on as many other casinos and campaign managers as possible. And you're sticking up for him. Well done.

You are literally wasting your time with him. Hopefully he will fade away in to a permanent absence now that he is no longer in any campaign.

Justifications given by intellectuals so far to defend the merit abuse
1. They do a lot of giveaways can't you see that
2. You are a competitor fuck off

What are you trying to do here? Either you are genuinely raising a concern about something you feel strongly about or you are effectively trying to tarnish the reputation of a brand for reasons not yet known. The way you conduct yourself it seems obvious to be the latter.

Did you ever complain about the number of merits sent and received by other members? Will you be able to find any example of merits being sent/received by certain members which you can use as a comparator to make a case for your allegation? Where is the evidence?

10 years on forum? You have NOT done any favors to anyone expect for yourself by earning money posting shit like this.

Do you realise nutildah has contributed far more to this forum than you could ever dream of? Of course you do, yet you still make assumptions about him simply because he pointed out the agenda that seems to the driving force behind you.

[BenCodie]

TLDR There would be a legitimate investigation here if anyone gave a shit enough so in my opinion, your post is both uncalled for and invalid.

You don't give a shit enough either, otherwise you would be conducting said investigation. Your post is just as useless as this thread. Besides, you missed the fact that OP already started another thread. Why didn't you chime in on that one? Its quite obvious OP works for a competing sportsbook and is just trying to shit on as many other casinos and campaign managers as possible. And you're sticking up for him. Well done.

You are literally wasting your time with him. Hopefully he will fade away in to a permanent absence now that he is no longer in any campaign.

I quit my signature campaign because I was taking a break from the forum. Not the other way around.

TLDR There would be a legitimate investigation here if anyone gave a shit enough so in my opinion, your post is both uncalled for and invalid.

You don't give a shit enough either, otherwise you would be conducting said investigation. Your post is just as useless as this thread. Besides, you missed the fact that OP already started another thread. Why didn't you chime in on that one? Its quite obvious OP works for a competing sportsbook and is just trying to shit on as many other casinos and campaign managers as possible. And you're sticking up for him. Well done.

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I'd also like to add to my last response here.

I'm not that committed to a forum dominated by people like JollyGood and the likes.

If the forum community was one that I loved, I might. Though there is a lot about this community that make me only like it, not love it.

I didn't chime in on the other thread because I've witnessed what is being discussed in this thread first-hand and did some digging months before this thread arose. In essence, I was saying "Hey, I've seen this going on as well". I'm not sure how that is a problem?