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February 01, 2024, 06:55:32 PM
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Well, if you are satoshi Nakamoto, then the first thing you can do is to send some donations to some accounts and crash the market, so that the price of Bitcoin can be lower. This way everyone will know that the driver of the Satoshi's account is back and everyone will start believing you.
This is the last thing a responsible person will do.
According to research, LiteCoin is still suffering from the silly move of Charlie and has lost its rank as Bitcoin Silver till today.
The only way Satoshi can prove himself to be real Satoshi Nakamoto is by writing a Bitcoin signed message from the Exodus wallet not crashing the market.
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February 01, 2024, 08:01:09 PM
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Well, if you are satoshi Nakamoto, then the first thing you can do is to send some donations to some accounts and crash the market, so that the price of Bitcoin can be lower. This way everyone will know that the driver of the Satoshi's account is back and everyone will start believing you.

Why would he do such a thing? A sane person can’t do that and he can’t be that type of person. What will he prove by altering the movement of the market. There are other ways he can prove that he is Satoshi without having to intentionally influencing the market price. Signing a message with his PGP key is amongst many others to prove his identity here in the forum. Satoshi doesn’t need to prove himself to the world once he’s back, everything will be so obvious that you don’t need to be told that this is Satoshi.

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February 01, 2024, 08:07:05 PM
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If someone is Satoshi then he doesn't need to prove that he's Satoshi. Like Elon Musk doesn't needs to prove that he's Elon Musk even if he disappears for 10 years. During that time 100's of people can use Fake AI generated videos by claiming that they're Elon Musk but no one trust them, however when he reappears then he doesn't need to prove that he's the real Elon Musk.

Satoshi disappeared from the scene because that was good for him and for Bitcoin. If he really needed praise and fame then he would never disappear. His main motive was to create a currency that anyone can use without any restrictions and he created that currency, and when he knew that the currency he built got active users then instead of getting followers and fans, he chose to disappear so community can use the project without any fear.

Those who claim to be Satoshi are always fake ones because real Satoshi will never do that. If he needs to reappear then he will reappear and trust me when he gets active then people will consider him mighty. Satoshi is here in the form of Bitcoin just feel his presence because he gave us a coin that's so precious and more valuable than Gold.

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February 01, 2024, 09:43:33 PM
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If you're satoshi nakamoto then you already know how to prove it and would never consider doing so as you took extreme precaution in hiding your identity.

A different perspective is that we are all satoshi, so there's really no need for anyone to have to prove anything.  Well, unless you're Craig Wright who may seemingly become the only person in the world to be proven not to be satoshi nakamoto.  Then besides the typical embarrassment, you also are the only human being who ever existed that cannot say you're satoshi nakamoto.   Cheesy

For the rest of us, we are satoshi.

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February 01, 2024, 10:08:52 PM
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Besides opening one of the wallets.

What do you mean by "besides opening one of the wallets"? Signing a message with one of the private keys is the most effective way to prove ownership and access to those keys.

Would an original Whitepaper doc be sufficient or do you think that there would still be critics?

Of course there would be skeptics. No one in their right mind would accept such evidence. How would you prove an "original whitepaper doc" anyway?



Well, if you are satoshi Nakamoto, then the first thing you can do is to send some donations to some accounts and crash the market, so that the price of Bitcoin can be lower.

That would be just plain stupid, wouldn't it?

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February 01, 2024, 10:15:16 PM
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Besides opening one of the wallets.
Aside from just saying I am like Craig Wright.
Would an original Whitepaper doc be sufficient or do you think that there would still be critics? I know there would still be critics, Im just asking what do all of you folks think?
If Satoshi can produce such a document would it harm the value of BTC or increase said value?
I personally don't think it matters much, but I've never been the type to make a big deal of anything.  If Satoshi was to come out of the darkness and into the light what would it matter?
Please refrain from any form of free speech that offends anyone on here.  Lol BTC

Actually all of us here  don't know what's really going onabout Satoshi nakamoto's life if he dead already or he is alive but didn't access this forum or else he is in the forum but still anonymous. There are a lot of questions came out to our mind but one thing for sure if Satoshi will came back here in this forum then Al out questioned will be answered. Anyways there's a chance that Satoshi will came back but we don't know when  as we saw what other quoted above.

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February 01, 2024, 11:13:40 PM
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I have come across a thread that this kind of question was asked too and after I read through the comments and opinions of other users, I just agreed with some of their opinion. One user said that Satoshi might be living an ancient lifestyle in a cool house where he doesn't use very modern and fancy tech device but with an old fashion desktop and he is not even concerned about his lost wallet address. He is only happy for the success of his creation.     I feel convinced that satoshi is not coming out from where ever he is but even if he does, there could be few things that he will be asked to do to prove he is Satoshi, we can guess what those things are but might not be right about them too but what we must know is that, he was the one that created the technology, so he actually knows what he can do to create a problem.

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February 02, 2024, 12:24:19 AM
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February 02, 2024, 02:37:22 AM
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Satoshi built Bitcoin for the 🌎, for the people.  Look there are over 1 million digital assets and still growing.  Even if Satoshi sold his entire lot of 1 million coins it would definitely not be enough to "crash" the markets.

It depends on how he went about selling them. He could certainly crash the price at least temporarily by placing a market sell for 1000s of BTC at a time. The fallout would be greater than your average whale manipulation as these are Satoshi's coins, after all. Everyone would be speculating that maybe he knew something that nobody else did.

Plus the moment his coins are moved, we're all gonna know about it. The price would likely drop before he ever got a chance to sell even 1 BTC.

Barring some major catastrophe - like a hidden backdoor in Bitcoin's cryptography - its true that the market would eventually absorb them and the normal price trajectory would resume, this time minus the unknowns imposed by Satoshi's Stash. It could take years, though. Who knows. With any luck these are dead coins and will never move.

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February 02, 2024, 04:01:01 AM
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First of all Satoshi doesn't need to go back and prove himself.
"Besides opening one of the wallets" no matter what you do I wouldn't believe you are Satoshi. Even if you could sign a message I still wouldn't believe it. You may have his keys but not his identity. I believe Satoshi is long dead, his legacy will forever live.

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No need to prove, he will appear just like he's disappeared on us through all these years, also why do we need to do this useless thing? Of speculating how he will come back and prove himself, I'm sure that it will come to light when the time is right. Let the old dogs sleep so soundly, I think that whatever purpose we think Satoshi serves, he's going to disagree on that and he's better off as figurehead than a spokesperson at this point, kind of like Jesus or Buddha, they've done their part of giving us the tools, it's now up to us how we will use it to further spread their message, at least that's what I believe this to be the similarity to the current dilemma of who's Satoshi and when will he come back, and wouldn't knowing right now how Satoshi will prove himself as the real deal a bad thing because we don't know if there's a false one that will try their best to pretend that they're that person and the proofs that they learn could be a potential tool for them fool a lot of us.



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February 02, 2024, 11:02:34 AM
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I believe Satoshi is long dead, his legacy will forever live.
That's what came in my mind, I believe only a few people who could be Satoshi Nakamoto are not alive anymore. Only one person who's still alive can be Satoshi Nakamoto but he totally rejects that he's Satoshi or he has created Bitcoin and that's why Satoshi won't reappear and anyone who claims 100's of times that he's Satoshi is just an impostor.

I also agree that even if someone signs a message from Satoshi's wallets I would also not trust that person. Satoshi is still alive in our heart and that's the best place for him I guess. Long live Satoshi in our hearts and in our emotions, you're a true genius and only genuine master of cryptography!

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Even if Satoshi sold his entire lot of 1 million coins it would definitely not be enough to "crash" the markets. 
I think it would. Satoshi deciding to sell off his Bitcoins would cause a massive hysteria in the crypto community. Headlines would be spun around it:
Has the founder lost faith in his creation?
Has the security of the founder been breached, how safe are your bitcoins then?
Bitcoin; a ship without a captain

The list goes on and on. The government would sponsor propaganda against it and there would be a massive crash. What I would be confident about is that Bitcoin would recover from it.

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February 02, 2024, 11:45:36 AM
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He created everything that we all know now about Bitcoin so it will be easy for him to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, he doesn't need to prove to anyone that he is he can come posting in the style that he is accustomed and open his wallet and sign in is just a proof that he is the real Nakamoto.
But he must have a good reason why he wants to come back, there's a lot of risk for him if he shows up now.
The interest on Nakamoto is so high and the value of the Bitcoin he is holding now will put him and his loved ones in danger there are a new breed of hackers and trackers to track him, he should remain a mystery.
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If someone is Satoshi then he doesn't need to prove that he's Satoshi. Like Elon Musk doesn't needs to prove that he's Elon Musk even if he disappears for 10 years. During that time 100's of people can use Fake AI generated videos by claiming that they're Elon Musk but no one trust them, however when he reappears then he doesn't need to prove that he's the real Elon Musk.

You gave a bad example as you are comparing Satoshi who is anonymous to someone who is not. Fake AI generated videos are still circulating at large while he is still in the public eye. They are not so good now whereas they will be unrecognizable in the coming 10 years. This makes me question why would he leave the limelight that he has now and come back after 10 years only to be part of the limelight again Grin.


Besides opening one of the wallets.
Aside from just saying I am like Craig Wright.
Would an original Whitepaper doc be sufficient or do you think that there would still be critics? I know there would still be critics, Im just asking what do all of you folks think?
If Satoshi can produce such a document would it harm the value of BTC or increase said value?
I personally don't think it matters much, but I've never been the type to make a big deal of anything.  If Satoshi was to come out of the darkness and into the light what would it matter?
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I have read your responses, and it seems to me that you are intentionally trying to provoke or upset others online, which is commonly referred to as being a troll. I also suspect your account is an alt account as it is evident you know where to post and the way you are replying to replies of forum members. Please remember that Satoshi is long gone and we do not want someone in the forum trying to prove he is Satoshi. We have already seen the drama of faketoshi. None of us are interested in the same show again.

Why don't you come up with an idea to fake the identity of one of the private coin developers? I would love to see that drama as it will keep me more engaged in a discussion than this post of yours will do. 

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Proving is easy he is the only one who holds his private keys and he is the one who creates the whitepaper there is no document to provide, but the much bigger question is why would he need to prove himself and why would he come out now, there are dangers if he expose now, from the government from the bad elements and from those who are envious on the amount that is in his wallet.
No security can provide his safety he is too important now more than ever and I don't know a single reason why he needs to expose himself.

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Proving is easy he is the only one who holds his private keys and he is the one who creates the whitepaper
You can add access to his account on this forum.

but the much bigger question is why would he need to prove himself
All Faketoshi's first of all try to prove that it is they Satoshi Nakamoto and for this they begin to invent various stories. I believe that if Satoshi ever comes back (which I very much doubt), he will not do any of this. He will just be himself and do what he did before he left.

and why would he come out now, there are dangers if he expose now, from the government from the bad elements and from those who are envious on the amount that is in his wallet.
The main danger is not only this. Satoshi's return will allow him to influence the entire BTC-network and this will be the end of decentralization. This was the essence of his departure.

No security can provide his safety he is too important now more than ever and I don't know a single reason why he needs to expose himself.
He was always very important.

This reason never existed.

If the bitcoin founder ceases to be anonymous, then how anonymous (correction, pseudo-anonymous) can his brainchild be?

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Besides opening one of the wallets.
Aside from just saying I am like Craig Wright.
Would an original Whitepaper doc be sufficient or do you think that there would still be critics? I know there would still be critics, Im just asking what do all of you folks think?
If Satoshi can produce such a document would it harm the value of BTC or increase said value?
I personally don't think it matters much, but I've never been the type to make a big deal of anything.  If Satoshi was to come out of the darkness and into the light what would it matter?
Please refrain from any form of free speech that offends anyone on here.  Lol BTC

Satoshi Nakamata need not present himself to prove himself, for the Satoshi Nakamato who may be hidden will have ample opportunity to return, but never attempt to prove himself. 
Satoshi is someone who has been undercover once and won't try to come back a second time, because even if he does come back he won't be too busy to prove himself. The person currently identified as Satoshi Nakamate still resides in Fool's Paradise.

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You gave a bad example as you are comparing Satoshi who is anonymous to someone who is not. Fake AI generated videos are still circulating at large while he is still in the public eye. They are not so good now whereas they will be unrecognizable in the coming 10 years. This makes me question why would he leave the limelight that he has now and come back after 10 years only to be part of the limelight again Grin.
That was just an example, it could be anyone else as well not only Elon Musk, but surely if you read it again then you will find that I gave a valid example because these days AI is getting much advance especially the AI where someone can swap another person's face and make it movable.

I know Elon Musk will not leave the limelight but just think if he does then surely many people will try to make his reappearance by using fake AI generated videos. I know Satoshi is anonymous and that's why each time someone claims to be Satoshi while Elon Musk isn't anonymous but man AI is getting smarter each day and those who can use AI can make fake videos of Elon Musk or someone else that disappears just as an example. If I'm not wrong then Jack Ma also disappeared from limelight for many weeks.

I'm sure that in coming 5 years it would be impossible for us to differentiate between AI generated videos and the real ones. The GPU's are getting beefy each year with extra VRAM and graphics power and now with extra AI acceleration. AI based software just love that extra VRAM and with more VRAM the editors who use AI video editing can increase the resolution of the images and that will make face swapping totally look like real.
 

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February 03, 2024, 09:43:58 AM
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If Satoshi was to come out of the darkness and into the light what would it matter?
Satoshi is not in darkness but rather in light. He sees more than most of us, he could also be involved in BTC more than most of us. He could also be in this forum but the advantage he has is that he won't be receiving countless and spam messages asking him some irrelevant questions. The government is not after him, so he is living the most peaceful life anyone can think.

If I'm Satoshi Nakamoto How do I prove it?
It's an easy and easiest problem for Satoshi to prove himself here.
1. Satoshi has an account here: https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Satoshi, By activating the account, 90% of people here already believe that it is Satoshi.
Only 50% will believe. The rest and including myself will say that theymos activated the account.

2. Satoshi has access to this Forum in all areas, with him deactivating certain discussion boards and moving, eliminating some of the topics here, everyone here already believes it is Satoshi.
3. By creating several new discussion boards, it will be even more certain that Satoshi is real.
These are things that theymos do. So, Satoshi doing them will not prove anything as we will still believe it's theymos that is doing them.

To me, what he needs to do are;
  • Reappear here
  • Sign a message with the known keys
  • Start sending bitcoin to random users in the forum from his known address

But then, all these will not happen.

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