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February 02, 2024, 10:52:57 PM |
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If a gambler is coming to collect or borrow money from your hand and use it to play gambling they would not tell you that they want to use it to play gamble but will deceive you to collect it and go and play the gamble and loss it to the casinos. But bankroll investment is good because it helps you to plan well to win and make profit. Though gambling is unpredictable because nobody knows whether you will win or not.
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February 02, 2024, 11:23:14 PM |
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That's under the pretense that the person you'll be co-walleting with's not gonna dupe you out of your hard-earned money. And I don't need to tell you how fucked this industry is sometimes for you to understand that 9 times out of ten hackers and scammers here will take the chance to steal your money if they are given. Plus I don't understand the appeal of shared bankrolls either, if you can't afford to take out a piece of your investment to gamble and have fun then maybe you shouldn't gamble in the first place. If it's that hard for you to even fork out a couple bucks for any reason whatsoever then I guess you should look for other ways to enjoy yourself and stop considering gambling cause personally, you shouldn't adjust to your gambling desires, your gambling desires should adjust to you as a potential gambler. I say look into other options like getting a job so you can fund a hot wallet and use that as your bankroll, or perhaps find a way to get some moolah out of your air-gapped wallet in such a way that it's not gonna pose that much risk on you. There's a plethora of choices and shared bankroll investment's at the bottom of the list.
Make up your mind broskis, this is going to work in an ideal world where no one's too evil to fuck with your money but judging by the makings and the history of this industry I wouldn't really count on people just working out of their own good will.
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February 03, 2024, 01:15:14 AM |
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I become curious to know what’s forum member opinion about my wild idea on bankroll investment.
in my opinion, if the investment is enough risk for you to do, don't continue it. I know some similar investments can provide big returns for all investors, but is not quarantined will happen to you too in the future. maybe you are become the last investor, so that a situation occurs where the owner withdraws all the funds, so you are be the last person, and and suffered huge losses. there's been a lot of things happening in the past, instead of wasting your money, better to use traditional investment or trading on spot exchange.
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pinggoki
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February 03, 2024, 01:25:47 AM |
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From what I understand, the investors will pool the money for your bankroll and in the case that it wins, you share the profits right? And in the case that it doesn't you will refund each and everyone that contributed to the bankroll pool right? If what I'm understanding is correct then that means that this is a win-win situation for the investors which means that I do really want to invest if that's what's offered to me, ain't no way you're losing to that anyway because after all you're returning the money anyway when the bankroll goes zero. The only problem with this gambling investment model is that it's really difficult for me to think that you wouldn't just run away or break the promise of returning the investments to the investors so with that kind of risk, it's not advisable to invest in this even if it's a really good offer, maybe it depends on your forum reputation too, are you willing to sacrifice what you've got here after all these years for a small amount that you could easily earn if you work hard and smart?
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February 03, 2024, 02:00:12 AM |
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If a gambler is coming to collect or borrow money from your hand and use it to play gambling they would not tell you that they want to use it to play gamble but will deceive you to collect it and go and play the gamble and loss it to the casinos. But bankroll investment is good because it helps you to plan well to win and make profit. Though gambling is unpredictable because nobody knows whether you will win or not.
Giving a loan to a gambler is not something we should give, because if we give it then it is very unlikely that they will pay it unless they can win the bet they are playing and even then it is not certain that they will pay it and when they ask for a loan they will of course do it with very good way and when we collect the money they lent them then they will be angry. If we invest a bankroll then we will be able to plan the gambling that we play and if we are lucky then we will be able to win the bet and if we lose we will be able to stop easily because the resources we have have run out, yes indeed no one can predict gambling, but for those who have a lot of experience in betting, they will certainly be able to minimize the losses they will experience in betting.
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uneng
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February 03, 2024, 02:19:34 AM |
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I don't like this idea, because the concept consists in investing in gambler's bankroll, which is always known for being unprofitable on long run. The profitable concept has always been to invest in the house's bankroll, to profit side by side with the casino, since we know they are making profit on long term against players. Moreover, there aren't any assurances lenders are going to receive their money back from the gambler borrowers, unless you add some kind of collateral on the deal. Anyway, it doesn't make sense at all, because why wouldn't you want to move your own funds in order to gamble? To borrow money for that reason would involve extra costs, what means it would end being more expensive than using your own money to gamble. Also, the concept is pretty much the same as borrowing money from a crypto lender platform in order to gamble, what is never a good idea, since the outcomes can be devastating for your finances and create unpayable debt in the end. PS: This is not real bankroll offer but just a hypothetical idea just to know if the community will like this kind of offer. This is only possible for user that has good reputation since trust is the main issue here. This method might help someone who regularly loan for gambling to stop paying loan interest in exchange of profit sharing.
Some time ago a highly trusted member has lost all his reputation for not being able to continue running the auctions he was operating in the forum, due to being a gambler addicted and having lost big money betting. There are reputable members who can be gambling addicted, so you never know if you are doing a good deal by lending money to them. I would be very careful with this, despite their reputations being intact on the current time.
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February 03, 2024, 05:49:57 AM |
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It's a unique way to get money to play with without having to pay interest. It sounds like you should let people who are interested invest in your cash. Everyone has a reason to make money, and the promise of a return if they lose gives people a safety net. People will know you are honest and fair if you give them a clear start date for the payment and let them wait for the results. But it is very important to know all the rules, such as the risks that might come with gaming. People should know a lot about the account before they decide to put money into it. Having an organized deal or contract could also help everyone know what to expect and make sure everything goes smoothly.
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February 03, 2024, 06:05:04 AM |
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Whatever has to do with funding or gambling in any form should be distanced from an investment and loan should not even come close to it as it is the worst plan ever.
Most gamblers are highly irresponsible in the gambling arena, and they unfortunately fall into the group of people that will consider taking loans from investors. It is not written on their faces and they will beat eligibility test.
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February 03, 2024, 07:07:28 AM |
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If a gambler is coming to collect or borrow money from your hand and use it to play gambling they would not tell you that they want to use it to play gamble but will deceive you to collect it and go and play the gamble and loss it to the casinos. But bankroll investment is good because it helps you to plan well to win and make profit. Though gambling is unpredictable because nobody knows whether you will win or not.
If a gambler borrows money, never say that he is borrowing for gambling as this can destroy your trust in him. Moreover, gambling is generally not considered an acceptable source of income and is a precarious income. Investing if any passive income is available is definitely better than gambling but one should first consider how safe such investment platform is. If a gambler gets the chance to invest bankroll and get guaranteed regular income from it then it is definitely better than gambling. But it must be remembered that a passive income earner cannot make the same amount of money a gambler can earn through gambling.
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February 03, 2024, 07:57:03 AM |
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I become curious to know what’s forum member opinion about my wild idea on bankroll investment.
in my opinion, if the investment is enough risk for you to do, don't continue it. I know some similar investments can provide big returns for all investors, but is not quarantined will happen to you too in the future. maybe you are become the last investor, so that a situation occurs where the owner withdraws all the funds, so you are be the last person, and and suffered huge losses. there's been a lot of things happening in the past, instead of wasting your money, better to use traditional investment or trading on spot exchange. If I understand correctly, the OP does not propose investments like a financial pyramid where the first ones have an advantage and, in general, everything depends on the chain of investors not being interrupted. There are other risks here (for example, the risk that he will simply lose his bankroll), but the risk that there will be a loss (accidental or intentional) of funds under management is also present. But still, these are different risks, since in the case of financial pyramids they inevitably end, and in the case of investing in a bankroll, there are theoretically successful options for how all this can end with profit for all parties.
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you must always consider the difference between a cold wallet (coins that you cannot move or better with a time lock) and using the same coins for the bankroll investment opportunity. with small amounts you can do it, it can be a sort of diversification, but in general this type of activity has a lot of risks and I would be very careful before doing anything on that.
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February 03, 2024, 08:25:52 AM |
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Whatever has to do with funding or gambling in any form should be distanced from an investment and loan should not even come close to it as it is the worst plan ever.
Most gamblers are highly irresponsible in the gambling arena, and they unfortunately fall into the group of people that will consider taking loans from investors. It is not written on their faces and they will beat eligibility test.
I agree that it should be distanced but from what I can get from this proposition, the money that you'll invest will go back to you anyway if the gambler responsible for the growth of the funds can't deliver what's promised so that got me stopping on my tracks about going no all the way, as what Vito Corleone used to say, "An offer you can't refuse." (I think he said that). But with the consideration that these gamblers asking for money to fund their gambling is probably a good reason why it's still not a good idea to take up this offer after all, liars will say anything to make you believe so they can get what they want so at the end it's a matter of will you risking wasting an investment that you might as well just give it away or you don't take up the offer.
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February 03, 2024, 08:35:03 AM |
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I become curious to know what’s forum member opinion about my wild idea on bankroll investment.
in my opinion, if the investment is enough risk for you to do, don't continue it. I know some similar investments can provide big returns for all investors, but is not quarantined will happen to you too in the future. maybe you are become the last investor, so that a situation occurs where the owner withdraws all the funds, so you are be the last person, and and suffered huge losses. there's been a lot of things happening in the past, instead of wasting your money, better to use traditional investment or trading on spot exchange. If I understand correctly, the OP does not propose investments like a financial pyramid where the first ones have an advantage and, in general, everything depends on the chain of investors not being interrupted. There are other risks here (for example, the risk that he will simply lose his bankroll), but the risk that there will be a loss (accidental or intentional) of funds under management is also present. But still, these are different risks, since in the case of financial pyramids they inevitably end, and in the case of investing in a bankroll, there are theoretically successful options for how all this can end with profit for all parties. If we do really make out on reading up OP's words that he doesnt have plans and really just that trying to look on whats the idea of the community in regarding into this matter. Just like on what others been saying that this isnt really that an investment on which you are trying out to pass into other people and believe that it could bring out that potential profits that even yourself cant be able to do so. There are ones who are really that having those realistic approach and there are ones who do get blinded with those kind of false hopes. I agree on most words on here that trust would really be the main issue on here on which if ever you wont really be able to give out any proofs that you are really that doing well with your gambling or simply not that attractive then it would be basing into that one.
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February 03, 2024, 08:54:12 AM |
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If recreational gambling is not done under strict control, it can quickly spiral out of control. You've really hit the mark when you say that understanding your boundaries is key. Let's face it, though: not everyone is suited for this level of discipline. The instant you begin to rationalize defeats as "near victories," you're inviting disaster
While it's not an oxymoron, responsible gambling is also not an open-ended celebration. It requires a mentality as uncommon as hen's teeth: the capacity to give up whether you win or lose. You make reference to using money you're willing to lose, and it is excellent counsel. To emphasize, though, it's not enough to simply accept defeat - you also need to resist the urge to let it lead you to make bad choices
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February 03, 2024, 08:58:48 AM |
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What you plan to do only makes sense if you want to invest in gold or Bitcoin, but using this with gambling isn't safe to begin with, it's too risky, and mind you I want you to erase this idea that gambling has anything to do with investments, gambling is not an investment, it's a way of cheating a casino with luck and casinos understand that you ain't going to get lucky all the time, this is their own bet and that's why they are more richer.
If you want a guaranteed way of making money using debt gambling isn't one of them, find other things you can take risks on, gambling is way too risky to be using loan or borrowing funds for, you will lose everything and you will end up in huge debt.
A plus, if you don't have your own money try to look for a job first, you should be using your hard earned money in gambling, not taking loan, start using this rules that if it's not your money you aren't going to gamble, until you get paid from your business or job.
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February 03, 2024, 11:37:56 AM |
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Assuming it can happen. What is the business? Are you sure that it could make profits in a certain amount of time?
Those will be the questions of an investor before they check on your reputation. They will first try to dissect the idea if it is really profitable before they try and check your profile. That's what I will do. This is why gambling sites that have good trust ratings have many bankroll investors too. They have the business running which surely makes money. (The house will always win.) And it is sure that they will make profits so the offer is good enough for an investor to agree.
Details. Those are important because if you don't have those then I doubt you could pull investors that would see this offer appealing to their eyes. When it comes to money, no one likes trial and error anymore, it must be a sure thing so it won't be a waste of effort and money.
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February 03, 2024, 12:08:58 PM |
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Wait! Did I understand the op very well. Like he wants me or us to risk our own funds for his gambling activity while he safe keep his own coins in a safe air gap wallet or timelock, and on top of thia bullshit I won't get an interest added to my fund am giving out to him inform of a loan just because he promised to pay back even if he gets to lose it as he gambles with it. Wow! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And you refer to this as an offer? Hell no, I won't consider it any day. No matter how you want to explain this it's no different from borrowing money to gamble which is something I abhor with all sincerity you are going to be making a debt-roll and not a bankroll because gambling risk has nothing to do with professional skill if you're not so lucky in getting a win.
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February 03, 2024, 12:16:15 PM |
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If the investment is locked by time before the investor can withdraw his investment, I'm not interested because I have to wait until the time is reached before I can withdraw my investment. If there were profits that could be distributed daily, for example, for 1 month, and the investment was still locked, I might think about it. But it would be even better if the investment were not locked by time so that the investor could withdraw his investment whenever he wanted and get the profit every day. This will make many investors interested in investing because they can withdraw their investment anytime. But it would be better if I kept the bitcoins in my own wallet because I am the one who controls the bitcoins and monitors their use.
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February 03, 2024, 02:05:43 PM |
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A gambling enthusiast's ambition is to invest in a bankroll with a safety net. We both dislike traditional loans, especially those related to gambling. Profit-sharing agreements avoiding interest are novel.
I insist on details. The proposal depends on trust and reputation. If there's a strong transparency and accountability framework, I'd consider it. The investment must avoid harmful gambling habits as well as profit possibilities.
Its excellent to make gambling more accessible without loan interest penalties. If done well, it might make fun gambling without the financial consequences more appealing. Its a tight line, but checks and balances could work.
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Ever-young
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February 03, 2024, 02:11:46 PM |
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If a gambler is coming to collect or borrow money from your hand and use it to play gambling they would not tell you that they want to use it to play gamble but will deceive you to collect it and go and play the gamble and loss it to the casinos. But bankroll investment is good because it helps you to plan well to win and make profit. Though gambling is unpredictable because nobody knows whether you will win or not.
Some gamblers go as bold as telling who they want to borrow money from that they are using it for gambling and they are certain of the match outcome even when we all know how gambling results ends most of the time it’s still not stop some gamblers from doing their borrowing to gamble I have had such friend before who is still paying some debt up till sometimes last year, no matter how sure you think the game appears to you I don’t think it’s wise to borrow to wager for such game the risk is always high.
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