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March 02, 2024, 01:22:06 AM
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The difficulty for someone like him in this case is the fact he believes in freedom or the right of all citizens of the United States to mind their own business
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I see no evidence of that. Supporting a criminal who pardons his criminal associates and promises "retribution" against US citizens if he is elected is not the very opposite of, "believes in freedom or the right of all citizens".



Well, in his eyes Trump is not a criminal whatsoever, kind the opposite. He has already made clear Trump is being a victim of political prosecution, all.being coordinates by the deep-state, the swam, the establishment, whatever you want to call it. I say he seems to be in favor of freedom of the people and little government, because of the occasion he has talked about the administration of his country has over stretched it's hand over the rights of the citizens, or something like it.
Since I have never gold the United States constitution in my hands, I don't know exactly what he means when he talks about private contracts and their relationship with the government. By the way, he believes people is not supposed to pay taxes whatsoever.
He is a libertarian, wants to see more libertanism and yet has managed to get himself supporting someone who has shown traits of being authoritarian as a good candidate for the presidency of his country.

Though, obviously I do not know him and I have never met him personally. As far as some have suggested before, he could perfectly be a paid member of a Russian troll farm, but I have decided to discard that theory for now.

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March 02, 2024, 01:46:32 AM
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The difficulty for someone like him in this case is the fact he believes in freedom or the right of all citizens of the United States to mind their own business
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I see no evidence of that. Supporting a criminal who pardons his criminal associates and promises "retribution" against US citizens if he is elected is not the very opposite of, "believes in freedom or the right of all citizens".



Well, in his eyes Trump is not a criminal whatsoever, kind the opposite.

That's not been my own anecdotal experience. I think most of them know very well that Trump is a criminal, but they want the political outcomes they want so they don't care. For that matter, Trump's criminality might even be an advantage to them since they know somebody like that won't be constrained by any sort of rule of law. Republican primary voters had their chance to vote for a proto-Trump like Ramaswami and ignored him. They want the real deal: somebody who is a real criminal...



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March 02, 2024, 02:51:06 AM
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The difficulty for someone like him in this case is the fact he believes in freedom or the right of all citizens of the United States to mind their own business
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I see no evidence of that. Supporting a criminal who pardons his criminal associates and promises "retribution" against US citizens if he is elected is not the very opposite of, "believes in freedom or the right of all citizens".



Well, in his eyes Trump is not a criminal whatsoever, kind the opposite.

That's not been my own anecdotal experience. I think most of them know very well that Trump is a criminal, but they want the political outcomes they want so they don't care. For that matter, Trump's criminality might even be an advantage to them since they know somebody like that won't be constrained by any sort of rule of law. Republican primary voters had their chance to vote for a proto-Trump like Ramaswami and ignored him. They want the real deal: somebody who is a real criminal...


Perhaps anything Trump criminality is a big point for you. But that isn't what things are all about. Here is what they are about. Example...

In the national forests, you can often find signs from the Forest Service telling you to put out your campfires before you leave. Here is what you are. You are a nice guy, working away to make sure your campfire is drowned and dead before you leave. But you completely ignore the fact that the forest is burning all around you, and if you don't move fast, you will be burned up in the blaze.

Trump is like your little campfire.
Biden, Congress, the DoD, all kinds of big business, including the British Crown and the banking system are the forest fire.

If you were smart, you would use the burning coals from your campfire to start break fires against the forest burning, so that by the time the forest flames got to you, your campfire will have burned a break around you, saving you from the dangerous flames.

But that's only half your problem. You want to burn and destroy as many people around you in the big blaze as you can, rather than saving yourself and warning them.

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March 02, 2024, 03:11:54 AM
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That's not been my own anecdotal experience. I think most of them know very well that Trump is a criminal, but they want the political outcomes they want so they don't care. For that matter, Trump's criminality might even be an advantage to them since they know somebody like that won't be constrained by any sort of rule of law. Republican primary voters had their chance to vote for a proto-Trump like Ramaswami and ignored him. They want the real deal: somebody who is a real criminal...


Perhaps anything Trump criminality is a big point for you. But that isn't what things are all about. [...]


Glad you agree with my analysis.



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March 03, 2024, 03:23:55 PM
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Gradually Congress will approve sending more weapons to Ukraine. As the approvals come more freely, and as they start to include more and more deadly weapons, soon (possibly) they will be sending nukes to Ukraine, if they haven't already done this. What will Ukraine do, of course? The usual. Sell them (at least some of them) worldwide to the highest bidder.


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America's nuclear weapons arsenal includes thousands of warheads which can be launched at a moment's notice - each with enough explosive power to raze entire cities.

These devastating weapons are designed and built by a network of research and development facilities across the country which maintain the country's Nuclear Triad, the name for the three-pronged strike force which can launch warheads from air, land and sea. 

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March 03, 2024, 05:52:31 PM
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Gradually Congress will approve sending more weapons to Ukraine. As the approvals come more freely, and as they start to include more and more deadly weapons, soon (possibly) they will be sending nukes to Ukraine, if they haven't already done this.

The US nuclear arsenal is entirely configured on delivery mechanisms that span continents. And our NATO allies have forward-deployed nuclear weapons as well. Hence it's nonsensical that we would move nuclear weapons to Ukraine, even on a military tactical level, let alone a strategic or diplomatic level.

Once again, it would appear that Russian propaganda is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Their lies don't even make logical sense. Putin is clearly losing the war and he's getting desperate.


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Gradually Congress will approve sending more weapons to Ukraine. As the approvals come more freely, and as they start to include more and more deadly weapons, soon (possibly) they will be sending nukes to Ukraine, if they haven't already done this.

The US nuclear arsenal is entirely configured on delivery mechanisms that span continents. And our NATO allies have forward-deployed nuclear weapons as well. Hence it's nonsensical that we would move nuclear weapons to Ukraine, even on a military tactical level, let alone a strategic or diplomatic level.

Once again, it would appear that Russian propaganda is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Their lies don't even make logical sense. Putin is clearly losing the war and he's getting desperate.


Do you really think your propaganda about Putin losing the war is going to help Ukraine's position? Ukraine essentially is no more. What you see over there is the US and Nato in Ukraine clothing... like wolves in rabbit clothing.

Russian nukes can reach around the world, just like US nukes. If all the US wanted to do was simply to start Armageddon, there would be no Ukraine war. The US simply would fire their nukes at Russia (or wherever).

The thing the US wants is to make it look like Ukraine is still there, and is winning the war. For Ukraine to have nukes that would reach any target in Russia and Russian Siberia is the thing that makes sense. It would make Ukraine look really good, even if they never used the nukes. And then those nukes would be sold to the highest bidder, just like much of the other armament that Ukraine gets from the US and Nato.

Think of the Mexican cartels with US nukes from Ukraine.

You are right about one thing. You are getting me to waste my time just explaining things to you.


The Endgame, Part I: The Russo-Ukrainian War And Geopolitics Of Europe



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While the vote count for this particular poll was not very high, an overwhelming majority supported this notion.

Before conducting the poll, developments in Ukraine in December and January had led me to ponder the outcome, or endgame, of the war. In September 2022, I had established an alternative to the western narrative of the war, spewed relentlessly by our media. In it, I argued that

Ukrainian losses are massive, passing Russian losses possibly 5-10 times.

The Russian army has not collapsed, but it may have become the strongest it has been since WWII.

The West (NATO) is fighting a proxy-war in Ukraine with the possible aim of regime change in Russia.

Russia is about to create a war-machine not seen in Europe for a very long time, which it could use to unleash a devastating attack against Ukrainian (NATO) forces during the winter.

In late-October 2022, I also noted that:

The massive force Russia is amassing and the all-but-halted progress of Ukrainian forces, tells me that we are most likely approaching a turning point in the war. In the worst case, this implies that Ukraine has already lost. Even in the best case (excluding peace) this means that the war will drag on and become a resource race between NATO and Russia.
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March 03, 2024, 11:30:24 PM
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Gradually Congress will approve sending more weapons to Ukraine. As the approvals come more freely, and as they start to include more and more deadly weapons, soon (possibly) they will be sending nukes to Ukraine, if they haven't already done this.

The US nuclear arsenal is entirely configured on delivery mechanisms that span continents. And our NATO allies have forward-deployed nuclear weapons as well. Hence it's nonsensical that we would move nuclear weapons to Ukraine, even on a military tactical level, let alone a strategic or diplomatic level.

Once again, it would appear that Russian propaganda is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Their lies don't even make logical sense. Putin is clearly losing the war and he's getting desperate.


Do you really think your propaganda about Putin losing the war is going to help Ukraine's position? Ukraine essentially is no more. What you see over there is the US and Nato in Ukraine clothing... like wolves in rabbit clothing.

Russian nukes can reach around the world, just like US nukes. If all the US wanted to do was simply to start Armageddon, there would be no Ukraine war. The US simply would fire their nukes at Russia (or wherever).



Exactly. So the idea that he US would give Ukraine nuclear weapons is absolutely nonsensical. You might as well have said that we're going to relocate Arlington National Cemetery to Kiev.

If you are going to make something up to help Russia, you should try to make things up that are at least remotely plausible....



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