I've Made Millions abusing Exploit in a Crypto Casino - AMA

[Kakmakr]

Yes, I remember Eddie from Stake.com talking about you... and how you exploited the server seed to predict the outcome of the next bet, but I cannot remember your name. (Edited : Are you Hufflepuff?)

In any way, I also found a glitch in a slot called Mount Magmas and I reported it to Stake via this platform. (I never exploited it for my own gain and Stake.com just removed it from their platform to be fixed and then brought it back, with the feature disabled that could be used to exploit it..Stake.com did not offer a bounty for that.)

They will eventually catch up to you, if you throw it back into their face... because they lost quite a bit of money due to that.

[BenCodie]

Regardless of what happens or become of the casinos, it wrong for a gambler to abuse the casino and any of such act is regarded as stealing from the casino, so you cant expect us to welcome such act or accept this kind of service at any point in time, bug abuse is one of the things that casinos doesn't take with levity and for that we have to avoid using such problems against them.


So the best thing to do is to report such incidents once we discover them on the casinos, and may be regardless of whatever it depends so much on the individual whether they can abuse the casino or not.

The casinos are abusing its players 24/7, if you believe that they are the good guys then you are really wrong. They are dirt-bags that will use illegal ways to get money out of your pocket. I didn't do anything as bad as what they are doing to their own customers.

+1

However the majority of the forum won't agree, as majority of them are fearful that saying even something as elementary as what you have said will cost them their spot in their signature campaign. See this thread where a member got kicked from their campaign just for recommending another wallet instead of the wallet that was being advertised in their signature.

I guess the two points of what I'm saying that is most relevant to you is:
- Some members will not believe you and express that because its the easiest way to get a paid post.
- Most members will persecute your actions because the hand that feeds them is the one that you took from.

I on the other hand, don't care. That aside, some on topic questions about your life after besting the casino:

Have you done any good with the coins since? Have you invented/are you considering inventing anything new since you have the resources to do so? If not, do you have any plans to do something good or invent something with the coins?
Are you being careful in the sense of privacy and security? 2024 is a different landscape to 2014 in terms of being secure...and in line with the latter, are you concerned that consequences might come down the track?
What's next for you in crypto and life?

If you are being honest, congratulations, stay safe, and make a good difference with your winnings.

Heya abuser.. !

So you should now make some decent giveaways here so you don't get the bad karma from the community. !!

abuser
Casinos abuse people's human weaknesses every day. This guy flipped the narrative. Grow up.

[3kpk3]

AMA? For pulling off some imaginary shit? Really op? Very few gullible members would fall for your dumb crap frankly speaking and I am guessing that you are doing this because you crave attention.

You could always prove me wrong by posting proper proof to backup your wild claims, but that probably won't happen. Pointless stuff!

[Danydee]

In any way, I also found a glitch in a slot called Mount Magmas and I reported it to Stake via this platform. (I never exploited it for my own gain and Stake.com just removed it from their platform to be fixed and then brought it back, with the feature disabled that could be used to exploit it..Stake.com did not offer a bounty for that.)

Any bounty ??!   

However the majority of the forum won't agree, ...

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abuser
Casinos abuse people's human weaknesses every day. This guy flipped the narrative. Grow up.

Meanwhile Stake are the best prestator with the best rates/odds, transparency, service on the market.. !  Assuming they are the same as Primedice, cause I didn't try/play primedice!

Yes, many casinos are big abusers and in very agressive way, but what about people that want to gamble?? They need a good prestator.. because at the end is services prestation, they must run servers, securises and manage all the thing, so ...!

[AB de Royse777]

So you should now make some decent giveaways here so you don't get the bad karma from the community. !!

As long as it's fun I think it's okay. Besides I don't think anyone who has strong ethics would like to support the work he did. He is justifying it by saying casinos are bad actors, he is forgetting that casinos are business institutions, they stands by rules and regulation. Like many other business they have balance sheet to calculate profit and loss. There can be bad actors in every sector but that does not mean the entire sector is bad. In a business there are employees and employers, a lot of family depends on a business and a business industry. You just can't label it bad and take unethical advantage to destroy it.

They will eventually catch up to you, if you throw it back into their face... because they lost quite a bit of money due to that.

Big casinos daily face this type of risks and as far as I know they always accept it and moves on. After all they run a business.

[TravelMug]

It's funny though that after 10 years, the OP suddenly want to open up and have a AMA here. 

Definitely back in those days, early years for crypto based casinos and individuals like the OP could really go and exploits casinos and take millions out of it. It's just a question of if he can proved it or not.

Or maybe just give us a Bitcoin address to see how much he really got from those casinos?

[Baofeng]

I don't know if we are going to fee the troll here.

He made his millions according to him, so no need to glorified him as being a criminal in the world of crypto based casinos, just saying.

[Knight Hider]

5. I could sign wallet containing good chunk of those coins but I wouldnt say that would be the smartest thing to do

You don't have to sign from your current address. The wallet you used to withdraw in 2014 is enough to prove what you say. Even if it is now empty.

no need to glorified him as being a criminal in the world of crypto based casinos, just saying.

My signature applies

[tbterryboy]

how did you do it?

everybody will doubt about you making millions exploiting a crypto casino actually. those guys will ban any account if they notice suspicious activity. so when you say you got millions, does it mean you got tons of BTC withdrawn from the casino or is it because of the bullrun that you have trade it to usd already that your millions?

If ever this is legit, it's going to change him and other hackers because after this, the casinos are now aware of their methods but this seems not a big deal to OP since he said he already made $1M from doing it and he said he made it in 2014, so no, he didn't waited for the huge bull runs but imagine if he did? He could even be a trillionaire or more now. If the casino bans the OP, he can just create a brand new account and do that again, so the only way for the casino to prevent the same occurrence is when they improve their website's security.

this is a legitimate question i think so we're waiting for it. you'd probably get more questions after answering this question which i believe is what you wanted which is to be asked.

There are questions already that are being thrown before this post of yours and this thread was still new but once many noticed it, I'm sure it will be flooded since it was an interesting topic.

[Haunebu]

You don't have to sign from your current address. The wallet you used to withdraw in 2014 is enough to prove what you say. Even if it is now empty.

I doubt he will actually do that since it seems like he is craving attention which is why he conjured up this wild story basically.

If the casino bans the OP, he can just create a brand new account and do that again, so the only way for the casino to prevent the same occurrence is when they improve their website's security.

Firstly, I think op is full of crap. Secondly, if he's actually saying the truth in this case, the incident happen so long back and the casino in question would have already drastically increased their security if they are still up and running.

[pahahaha]

You don't have to sign from your current address. The wallet you used to withdraw in 2014 is enough to prove what you say. Even if it is now empty.

I doubt he will actually do that since it seems like he is craving attention which is why he conjured up this wild story basically.

If the casino bans the OP, he can just create a brand new account and do that again, so the only way for the casino to prevent the same occurrence is when they improve their website's security.

Firstly, I think op is full of crap. Secondly, if he's actually saying the truth in this case, the incident happen so long back and the casino in question would have already drastically increased their security if they are still up and running.

I have access to some old wallets, however i will not sign or mention the casino where the exploit took place for obvious reasons. I have plenty of information and proof that this was a real incident back in 2014. Of course this bug doesn't work anymore and the casino has increased its security since then by a lot.

[cabron]

You don't have to sign from your current address. The wallet you used to withdraw in 2014 is enough to prove what you say. Even if it is now empty.

I doubt he will actually do that since it seems like he is craving attention which is why he conjured up this wild story basically.

If the casino bans the OP, he can just create a brand new account and do that again, so the only way for the casino to prevent the same occurrence is when they improve their website's security.

Firstly, I think op is full of crap. Secondly, if he's actually saying the truth in this case, the incident happen so long back and the casino in question would have already drastically increased their security if they are still up and running.

I have access to some old wallets, however i will not sign or mention the casino where the exploit took place for obvious reasons. I have plenty of information and proof that this was a real incident back in 2014. Of course this bug doesn't work anymore and the casino has increased its security since then by a lot.

You already gave the name by praising Spike's signature

Anyway, if one casino once again provides a Beta version here, I think people will really scramble to find an exploit because of what you did. It awakens the ambitions of the gamblers.

If indeed Eddie talked about you before then somehow they will remember you.  You are lucky to have done it when there was no KYC mandatory yet. I wonder why they didn't suspect and hold the coins when you withdraw a large amount.

[bitbollo]

How can we trust your statement?
why do you come here to tell us?  Don't you have anything better to do than asking these arguments?
from the places where I grew up, those who commit crimes don't tell to nobody about what they have done.
Also because sooner or later the consequences can always arrive

[Wiwo]

Heya abuser.. !

So you should now make some decent giveaways here so you don't get the bad karma from the community. !!

Really give away for a stolen funds I guess not all will accept such giver away,  and that is what the ops said is actually true and has any elements of truth because casinos are not that gullible and weak in security that a single player could abuse it on a steady basis to the point of even advertising the shady deal in public.

So I don't believe in what the ops said and at that,  we have to ignore his claims regardless of the status of the claims.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The thing about a exploit casino should not be something worthy of pride, I see it as an act of profit or something like that, but I consider that things when they are like that, well, it is not money that has to be very worthy of triumphs, because I When I am in a casino, I know that the operations when they are forming a casino and they are squaring everything because everything has an effort, everything is something that takes its process, in this order of ideas things can be seen like this, perhaps the achievement is not It's just mine, 'because I would feel like I was stealing and I consider that a very ugly sin and it's something no one should do, things obtained for something bad, it's ediero it's not good, that money is dirty, it's something that shouldn't be done What to do or obtain for things to happen, I am a person who has always seen things in that sense.

I am one of the people who has always thought about people who do these types of acts, and in part the citizens should do a promotion so that this type of things does not happen to them, and if they manage to detect many vulnerabilities then let them be paid , and that it is a good reward for the person who is capable of certain things, because it is obvious that a person like that knows a lot, is an intelligent person and that person is worthy of even hiring a casino to also take care of it. of the security of a casino, yes I have studied security, I have done the cisco, I know about that, but it is not close to what blockchain is, which is another type of thing, but in reality things have to be seen from That point of view, vulnerabilities and exploits is something that should not be taken advantage of by taking money, but, as I said, people who do this type of thing have to be rewarded because when they do it they have to say it so that they strengthen that type of security, and not stealing from the casino, no matter how much effort that company has put into it.

[o48o]

Main question: How was the exploit performed?

The casino used provably fair dice game. They were about to release new version for their site, before release they had separate beta website for small group of players to test and look for bugs before the final version would be released. I was one of those players who got access to the beta testing site. Finally the testing period was over and new version of the site was released to the public. The beta site was still online. The mistake that the casino made was that beta site account and main public site were sharing identical server seed. Meaning that i could reveal the server seed on the beta website while still having it active unrevealed on the main site. The way probably fair works is that with revealed server seed i could calculate all the future dice rolls before they would happen. And thats what i did. I did it for over 2 months i believe. I abused it in a way where it really looked like at the end i was just getting lucky and that the EV would catch up in the end. Over 2 month + period i was withdrawing big amounts in btc totalling thousands of bitcoins overall.


1. I still have majority of thay money.
2. I never felt guilt or wanted to return the money. Casino is a very shady business and the owners of these platforms dont care about their players or their losses and will do anything to milk their customers out of their last dollar. So i feel no sympathy. I outplayed them at their own game.
3. I did diversify my btc investment
4. Yes i am
5. I could sign wallet containing good chunk of those coins but I wouldnt say that would be the smartest thing to do

As long you aren't doing a long scam here, i don't even care if you are lying or not. As this this actually plausible explanation and a cool story. Morally speaking it's iffy, as it's not a robin hood story or anything like that, just an exploit that you abused and stole money with.

But this is definitely something that might have happened. Back then btc was cheap and tech was new, there were scams left and right, so different exploits that happened under the radar were definitely a thing. And no one seemed to track the missing money from real scams, so changes that anyone even noticed anything funny are probably small.

i can't see any good reason why you should sign the wallet. Because of what reason? To impress some random people in the internet? Wanting to get caught? I definitely wouldn't. Although i am so paranoid that i would even make this tread, even though 10 years might have passed, and this crime might be expired in most countries.

[shield132]

Regardless of what happens or become of the casinos, it wrong for a gambler to abuse the casino and any of such act is regarded as stealing from the casino, so you cant expect us to welcome such act or accept this kind of service at any point in time, bug abuse is one of the things that casinos doesn't take with levity and for that we have to avoid using such problems against them.


So the best thing to do is to report such incidents once we discover them on the casinos, and may be regardless of whatever it depends so much on the individual whether they can abuse the casino or not.

The casinos are abusing its players 24/7, if you believe that they are the good guys then you are really wrong. They are dirt-bags that will use illegal ways to get money out of your pocket. I didn't do anything as bad as what they are doing to their own customers.

I don't think every casino abuses its players 24/7 because there are some of them, at least in my country, that fund the visit of psychology for addicted players and casino has many forms of restrictions that they can enforce if you have addiction problems.
Casinos have a house edge that guarantees them profit, why do they have to use illegal ways to get money out of you? They still profit from fair play and fair rules.

What is your opinion about live casinos? e.g. Evolution gaming? I'm very curious to hear your opinion because I have experience working there. Some people say games are rigged, some say they are not, but I know the truth. Waiting for your response to reveal my answer and what happens there, whether it is a fair play or not.

[pahahaha]

Regardless of what happens or become of the casinos, it wrong for a gambler to abuse the casino and any of such act is regarded as stealing from the casino, so you cant expect us to welcome such act or accept this kind of service at any point in time, bug abuse is one of the things that casinos doesn't take with levity and for that we have to avoid using such problems against them.


So the best thing to do is to report such incidents once we discover them on the casinos, and may be regardless of whatever it depends so much on the individual whether they can abuse the casino or not.

The casinos are abusing its players 24/7, if you believe that they are the good guys then you are really wrong. They are dirt-bags that will use illegal ways to get money out of your pocket. I didn't do anything as bad as what they are doing to their own customers.

I don't think every casino abuses its players 24/7 because there are some of them, at least in my country, that fund the visit of psychology for addicted players and casino has many forms of restrictions that they can enforce if you have addiction problems.
Casinos have a house edge that guarantees them profit, why do they have to use illegal ways to get money out of you? They still profit from fair play and fair rules.

What is your opinion about live casinos? e.g. Evolution gaming? I'm very curious to hear your opinion because I have experience working there. Some people say games are rigged, some say they are not, but I know the truth. Waiting for your response to reveal my answer and what happens there, whether it is a fair play or not.

Thanks for the contribution to the thread.


I don’t know much about evolution games tactics and how their games function, but i would never bet on any of those games and expect them to be fair. What i do know for a FACT that evolution games treats their employees like shit, they dont take care of them, they get overworked + low wages and overall the situation is not that good at their work place. That being said i would never trust them with a single dollar.

[Wiwo]

Thanks for the contribution to the thread.


I don’t know much about evolution games tactics and how their games function, but i would never bet on any of those games and expect them to be fair. What i do know for a FACT that evolution games treats their employees like shit, they dont take care of them, they get overworked + low wages and overall the situation is not that good at their work place. That being said i would never trust them with a single dollar.

The thing is that,  I haven't meet any casino staff before to know what the condition of things is with them and even though,  we have proven that we should accept the fact that casino provides those games to make gains on them and that os why there is what is call house edges.

So we need to agree with the fact that casinos will always think about revenue before anything and at will prioritize that at alltimese.

[Kakmakr]

Thanks for the contribution to the thread.


I don’t know much about evolution games tactics and how their games function, but i would never bet on any of those games and expect them to be fair. What i do know for a FACT that evolution games treats their employees like shit, they dont take care of them, they get overworked + low wages and overall the situation is not that good at their work place. That being said i would never trust them with a single dollar.

The thing is that,  I haven't meet any casino staff before to know what the condition of things is with them and even though,  we have proven that we should accept the fact that casino provides those games to make gains on them and that os why there is what is call house edges.

So we need to agree with the fact that casinos will always think about revenue before anything and at will prioritize that at alltimese.

Now, here is the conundrum.... do we justify exploiting casinos and taking away from their profits, because they might be exploiting their employees?

Is this not also hurting the employees? Those profits ends up paying the employee salaries and bonuses and overtime.

OP, found a way to beat the casino and his motive was "money" and "fame"  ... not any believe that he is helping any of those employees that are supposedly exploited.  

I hope, he will use that money to actually help people and do some good. (Best yet... just wait for the price of Bitcoin to increase... sell and give some back to the casino)