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August 20, 2024, 10:28:39 AM
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Most addicted gamblers themselves push away people who could help them in a difficult situation. Deep down they realize that they make mistakes only through their own fault, but not everyone wants to admit it openly.

If we talk about Bestov, I am very surprised that he is still at large with debts of ~$270k. I find his idea of an advisor very interesting, but I always think it's better to learn to limit yourself.

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August 20, 2024, 11:04:25 AM
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Most addicted gamblers themselves push away people who could help them in a difficult situation. Deep down they realize that they make mistakes only through their own fault, but not everyone wants to admit it openly.

If we talk about Bestov, I am very surprised that he is still at large with debts of ~$270k. I find his idea of an advisor very interesting, but I always think it's better to learn to limit yourself.

I am also incredibly surprised that you can have such large debts and freely walk the streets, not sit in prison, or not be beaten for these debts. Honestly, I hope his example will not make many gamblers understand that you can simply not pay back the money and try to live on. Let's see how Bestov will do in the future, but you must agree, it cannot be surprising that he is not depressed or has not gone crazy from fear and hopelessness.

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August 20, 2024, 11:24:48 AM
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Most addicted gamblers themselves push away people who could help them in a difficult situation. Deep down they realize that they make mistakes only through their own fault, but not everyone wants to admit it openly.

If we talk about Bestov, I am very surprised that he is still at large with debts of ~$270k. I find his idea of an advisor very interesting, but I always think it's better to learn to limit yourself.

I am also incredibly surprised that you can have such large debts and freely walk the streets, not sit in prison, or not be beaten for these debts. Honestly, I hope his example will not make many gamblers understand that you can simply not pay back the money and try to live on. Let's see how Bestov will do in the future, but you must agree, it cannot be surprising that he is not depressed or has not gone crazy from fear and hopelessness.

It's very surprising indeed. Not many people out there would be able to go through it with their mind and spirit intact.

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August 20, 2024, 07:22:55 PM
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Yeah addictions makes you weak in terms not only financially but also mentally, like you sad addictions developed when frustrations continually happened when you are playing, I agree that you need to limit yourself and just play with your target. It allows you to minimize your losses and just enjoy your game.

Better to keep it that way instead of getting addicted and lose your control with everything.
Their was mild gap between the gambling enjoyment and gambling addiction.The gamblers who want the joy from the gambling never expected the reward from the game.So they play the gambling without any money demand from the gambling.This emotion free game was the cause for the gamblers to make money and to play the happy game.This type gambler will never excited for the game victory.The gambling addicted person will get emotionally weak after the loss.They will show his anger on the poor family members.Instead they can find the mistake and recover the loss from the future game.
If we don't think much about winning from gambling, we may win because of our luck comes in the right time. But if our minds telling us to chase the win, we will spend much money without we realizes and will not accept the lose. That can makes us becomes addicted to gambling if we can not control ourselves in gambling and our emotion will increase. We will becomes exciting when winning but if we can take care of ourselves in gambling, that excitement can make us forget to stops from gambling instead want to chase more winning.

The addicted person in gambling may not thinks about win or lose because their minds will only telling them to keep playing gambling. That can makes them playing gambling too often and will difficult to stops themselves from playing gambling. When thy lose in gambling, they can show their anger easily to the family and violence will happens. That is why you must prevent yourself becomes addicted to gambling because that can makes you lose much money and that will be hard situation for you.

Exactly, if you are just playing to kill some time then winning is just an additional rewards after playing,  once you stop with winning money it can be treated as bonus, while if you are playing because you are aiming to win, then the consequences are really risky,  you might lose more than what you can afford to let go, then it will create emotions that will lead you to keep playing,  from that situation you'll might be ending up being addicted and lose all your savings because of your gambling addiction.

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August 21, 2024, 04:27:10 AM
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It is bad that during the moments of addiction there is no one near the player, and he cannot control his behavior.
Therefore, some gamblers ask friends to stay in touch, and tell them when they want to make a questionable decision. This is a good deed and it can help to avoid many problems in the future. I also know that some gamblers even hire those who look after them.
And it is true! For example, the famous gambling addict Bestov calls his advisor Guardian Angel.
sometimes we do need advice from friends when we have started gambling that is getting out of control, but it should be noted that not everyone gambles with their friends or side by side with their friends, with the existence of online casino gambling, anyone can gamble just by staying at home and can do it alone. This situation tends to need to be fixed, at least we must be able to be side by side with friends to remind them not to exceed reasonable gambling limits.
because it should also be noted that when someone is addicted, they will most likely become more stubborn and arrogant, wanting to continue gambling and ignoring the advice given by those around them. this shows that addiction is a serious problem and cannot be treated easily.

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August 21, 2024, 05:15:30 AM
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Exactly, if you are just playing to kill some time then winning is just an additional rewards after playing,  once you stop with winning money it can be treated as bonus, while if you are playing because you are aiming to win, then the consequences are really risky,  you might lose more than what you can afford to let go, then it will create emotions that will lead you to keep playing,  from that situation you'll might be ending up being addicted and lose all your savings because of your gambling addiction.
Yes, that is right because when you playing gambling, we will not winning easily so that is why we must consider that if we win, that will just a bonus to us and we must stops playing gambling. We will not easy to win more after we win because gambling will not lets that happens to us except we gets lucky in the next rounds. We needs to realizes about that so we don't chase the next winning.

We must prevents the gambling addiction happens to us because that can makes us spend much money without we realizes. We don't have to takes a big risks for playing gambling instead just use enough money that we can afford to lose so we will not gets any problem after we finish playing gambling.  When our aim to win, we may becomes greed because after we win, our minds will telling us to keep playing gambling to win more. But that will not easy as gambling will not gives the chance to win easily.

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August 21, 2024, 08:35:03 AM
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Most addicted gamblers themselves push away people who could help them in a difficult situation. Deep down they realize that they make mistakes only through their own fault, but not everyone wants to admit it openly.

If we talk about Bestov, I am very surprised that he is still at large with debts of ~$270k. I find his idea of an advisor very interesting, but I always think it's better to learn to limit yourself.

I am also incredibly surprised that you can have such large debts and freely walk the streets, not sit in prison, or not be beaten for these debts. Honestly, I hope his example will not make many gamblers understand that you can simply not pay back the money and try to live on. Let's see how Bestov will do in the future, but you must agree, it cannot be surprising that he is not depressed or has not gone crazy from fear and hopelessness.

It seems to me that he has not only a mental disability, but an extreme stage of gambling addiction which is why he is so irresponsible not only for his losses, but also for his huge debts. In my opinion he needs compulsory treatment for gambling addiction as he can't handle it on his own. I was very surprised how in his latest video he asks a complete stranger to him, blogger Melstroy, to give him over half a million dollars to make a few more bets so he can pay off his debts.

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August 23, 2024, 04:23:06 PM
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Exactly, if you are just playing to kill some time then winning is just an additional rewards after playing,  once you stop with winning money it can be treated as bonus, while if you are playing because you are aiming to win, then the consequences are really risky,  you might lose more than what you can afford to let go, then it will create emotions that will lead you to keep playing,  from that situation you'll might be ending up being addicted and lose all your savings because of your gambling addiction.
Yes, that is right because when you playing gambling, we will not winning easily so that is why we must consider that if we win, that will just a bonus to us and we must stops playing gambling. We will not easy to win more after we win because gambling will not lets that happens to us except we gets lucky in the next rounds. We needs to realizes about that so we don't chase the next winning.

We must prevents the gambling addiction happens to us because that can makes us spend much money without we realizes. We don't have to takes a big risks for playing gambling instead just use enough money that we can afford to lose so we will not gets any problem after we finish playing gambling.  When our aim to win, we may becomes greed because after we win, our minds will telling us to keep playing gambling to win more. But that will not easy as gambling will not gives the chance to win easily.

Most of the time that cause you to lose a lot, when you play for money you forget about the limitation, you push harder to keep the momentum instead of taking that opportunity to quit while you still have a good amount of money in your wallet,  gambling is more on strategy and how wise you are whenever luck permits you to win, without good control it surely leads you to lose your money especially when greed already dominate and you can't control yourself anymore.

You find yourself regretting your bad decisions when you already lose your money and there's nothing left for you as you forcely quit empty handed.

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It seems to me that he has not only a mental disability, but an extreme stage of gambling addiction which is why he is so irresponsible not only for his losses, but also for his huge debts. In my opinion he needs compulsory treatment for gambling addiction as he can't handle it on his own. I was very surprised how in his latest video he asks a complete stranger to him, blogger Melstroy, to give him over half a million dollars to make a few more bets so he can pay off his debts.

such a gambler's addiction is very bad. I'm sure he must have done everything he could to get money to satisfy his desire to gamble. an addiction that is already in such a condition clearly cannot be handled by oneself or with the help of ordinary people. it needs more serious handling from professionals to restore his better thinking.

gamblers who are addicted do not have satisfaction with what they get from the game they play. when they win and decide to continue playing, what happens is a loss. it is very detrimental and quite dangerous if it involves other people.

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August 23, 2024, 04:39:38 PM
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Most addicted gamblers themselves push away people who could help them in a difficult situation. Deep down they realize that they make mistakes only through their own fault, but not everyone wants to admit it openly.

If we talk about Bestov, I am very surprised that he is still at large with debts of ~$270k. I find his idea of an advisor very interesting, but I always think it's better to learn to limit yourself.

I am also incredibly surprised that you can have such large debts and freely walk the streets, not sit in prison, or not be beaten for these debts. Honestly, I hope his example will not make many gamblers understand that you can simply not pay back the money and try to live on. Let's see how Bestov will do in the future, but you must agree, it cannot be surprising that he is not depressed or has not gone crazy from fear and hopelessness.

It seems to me that he has not only a mental disability, but an extreme stage of gambling addiction which is why he is so irresponsible not only for his losses, but also for his huge debts. In my opinion he needs compulsory treatment for gambling addiction as he can't handle it on his own. I was very surprised how in his latest video he asks a complete stranger to him, blogger Melstroy, to give him over half a million dollars to make a few more bets so he can pay off his debts.
Don't you know that gambling addiction can put you into trouble, from my understanding of everything gambling is something that has to do with understanding and if you don't follow gambling with precaution you debit yourself that much, I know very well that anyone who is gambling addict will look for way at any measure to gamble and win, so therefore we need to understand that, their is how you will involve yourself into gambling you will become over desperate, so technically it caused the person mental disorder, because the person maybe over desperate to win and when the person remembers debts that it has that alone will make you go crazy, that's why you don't need to commit yourself because of gambling

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It seems to me that he has not only a mental disability, but an extreme stage of gambling addiction which is why he is so irresponsible not only for his losses, but also for his huge debts. In my opinion he needs compulsory treatment for gambling addiction as he can't handle it on his own. I was very surprised how in his latest video he asks a complete stranger to him, blogger Melstroy, to give him over half a million dollars to make a few more bets so he can pay off his debts.

such a gambler's addiction is very bad. I'm sure he must have done everything he could to get money to satisfy his desire to gamble. an addiction that is already in such a condition clearly cannot be handled by oneself or with the help of ordinary people. it needs more serious handling from professionals to restore his better thinking.

gamblers who are addicted do not have satisfaction with what they get from the game they play. when they win and decide to continue playing, what happens is a loss. it is very detrimental and quite dangerous if it involves other people.

Not just other people, I mean it involves the help of a professional because gambling addiction is not something an ordinary person can just help fix out. It's like a spell placed on the mind of the victim and no matter how much loses and win especially the loses he will keep telling himself that there is another chance to give it a try and who knows he might be lucky and that's what causes all the big loss. It's a serious problem in the world at large and so many people have even resulted in taking their life's because of this.

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It seems to me that he has not only a mental disability, but an extreme stage of gambling addiction which is why he is so irresponsible not only for his losses, but also for his huge debts. In my opinion he needs compulsory treatment for gambling addiction as he can't handle it on his own. I was very surprised how in his latest video he asks a complete stranger to him, blogger Melstroy, to give him over half a million dollars to make a few more bets so he can pay off his debts.
For gambler to ask someone to give him such outrageous amount so he can use it to stake bets and use the winning to offset his debts is sign that gambling addiction have really eaten deep in his mental health. He really needs help from  anyone around him to come out of such addiction. At this level of addiction, the best thing to do is to send such gambler to a rehabilitation center where he'll not have any access to gamble again. I think with such measure, he'll break free from gambling addiction

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Not just other people, I mean it involves the help of a professional because gambling addiction is not something an ordinary person can just help fix out. It's like a spell placed on the mind of the victim and no matter how much loses and win especially the loses he will keep telling himself that there is another chance to give it a try and who knows he might be lucky and that's what causes all the big loss. It's a serious problem in the world at large and so many people have even resulted in taking their life's because of this.

This cannot be overcome alone, when someone is addicted to gambling, it can really make someone blind to everything even though they have experienced many defeats and big losses. Always assuming that "The next chance might bring luck" is a trick that makes people even more deaf. Breaking out of this cycle can be very difficult, therefore the individual needs to get encouragement from family, neighbors, or professionals. This is a life-saving moment and a step to save the future.

For gambler to ask someone to give him such outrageous amount so he can use it to stake bets and use the winning to offset his debts is sign that gambling addiction have really eaten deep in his mental health. He really needs help from  anyone around him to come out of such addiction. At this level of addiction, the best thing to do is to send such gambler to a rehabilitation center where he'll not have any access to gamble again. I think with such measure, he'll break free from gambling addiction

When a gambler reaches the point where he asks for large amounts of money to be able to gamble in order to pay off the debt, then it is an advanced addiction. At this stage, intervention is very necessary. Perhaps sending him to a rehabilitation center would be the right choice because there he will get professional support and because a sense of security (not gambling) may be realized. This can allow him to get out of the cycle of addiction and start rebuilding his life.

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August 23, 2024, 05:42:45 PM
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There is an unwritten rule in gambling...
never try to recover the amount lost while playing by trying to bet more and more...
you will simply lose even more.
Just because the games always have an advantage for the bookmaker/gambling house.
It's really hard to beat this advantage, its like a match rule.

It happened a few days ago I tried to get my losses so I used the martingale system to try and double up to make more but it went sideways , the thought of trying to recover will make you desperate and that feeling might not make you wait patiently, you will just try to use every opportunity to get your funds back, gambling with your emotions like this will make you lose everything, chasing your losses is also one of the ways you get hooked and addicted to gambling, once you are addicted you will always lose
For an addicted gambler, everything is emotional because when they lose so they are excited to try to win back the loss. You should check your gambling account every week and see how much money you have deposited and how much money you have withdrawn. If you are in profit then your gambling luck is good so you can bet again. But if your losses are high then take a break from gambling for some time and try again. Gambling site owners will reduce the luck of your account when you win repeatedly.

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August 23, 2024, 06:24:52 PM
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For an addicted gambler, everything is emotional because when they lose so they are excited to try to win back the loss. You should check your gambling account every week and see how much money you have deposited and how much money you have withdrawn. If you are in profit then your gambling luck is good so you can bet again. But if your losses are high then take a break from gambling for some time and try again. Gambling site owners will reduce the luck of your account when you win repeatedly.
Many gamblers do not check the history of the amount of deposits with the total weekly or monthly profits, if they accumulate everything then they tend to be able to manage their budget well and limit the use of the budget for gambling, if the losses are getting higher then taking a break from gambling is the best option to deal with gambling addiction problems. The main problem is related to budget management in gambling and if you can manage the right budget according to the limits then you are free from emotional problems and other negative things related to the impact of gambling.
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Well at this point in time I don't think if you can stop or convince him not to gamble again because the loss has thrown him off balance and till he/she wakes up he will continue to cause problem for himself and the best thing that will happen to him is if he realized himself and said no that's the only remedy. The situation your friend is right now is the worst situation I mean a critical situation and I want to tell you for free that gambling has forces and spirit that can mislead someone if you are not careful, these forces and spirit are those things that pushes or make one to continue gambling even when they are making loss, in order to avoid this from happening always put your money where you can't easily get it or maybe stay with someone that doesn't do gamble so that he or she can tell you to stop when you are over stepping.

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Well at this point in time I don't think if you can stop or convince him not to gamble again because the loss has thrown him off balance and till he/she wakes up he will continue to cause problem for himself and the best thing that will happen to him is if he realized himself and said no that's the only remedy. The situation your friend is right now is the worst situation I mean a critical situation and I want to tell you for free that gambling has forces and spirit that can mislead someone if you are not careful, these forces and spirit are those things that pushes or make one to continue gambling even when they are making loss, in order to avoid this from happening always put your money where you can't easily get it or maybe stay with someone that doesn't do gamble so that he or she can tell you to stop when you are over stepping.

Still, no matter how much effort the closest person makes to stop him from gambling, but if the gambler himself still has many ways to gamble, then the gambler will continue to gamble. No matter how much prevention is done and it will fail because after all, to stop gambling addiction is from himself with full awareness to change his lifestyle so that he is slowly able to stay away from gambling.

In addition, it seems that advice will also not be able to make gambling addicts to be able to stop quickly although indeed, if the effort continues to be done tirelessly, maybe over time the gambling addict will also be able to realize because he has fallen too deep in the losses he experienced in gambling.

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August 23, 2024, 08:30:47 PM
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Well at this point in time I don't think if you can stop or convince him not to gamble again because the loss has thrown him off balance and till he/she wakes up he will continue to cause problem for himself and the best thing that will happen to him is if he realized himself and said no that's the only remedy. The situation your friend is right now is the worst situation I mean a critical situation and I want to tell you for free that gambling has forces and spirit that can mislead someone if you are not careful, these forces and spirit are those things that pushes or make one to continue gambling even when they are making loss, in order to avoid this from happening always put your money where you can't easily get it or maybe stay with someone that doesn't do gamble so that he or she can tell you to stop when you are over stepping.

Still, no matter how much effort the closest person makes to stop him from gambling, but if the gambler himself still has many ways to gamble, then the gambler will continue to gamble. No matter how much prevention is done and it will fail because after all, to stop gambling addiction is from himself with full awareness to change his lifestyle so that he is slowly able to stay away from gambling.

In addition, it seems that advice will also not be able to make gambling addicts to be able to stop quickly although indeed, if the effort continues to be done tirelessly, maybe over time the gambling addict will also be able to realize because he has fallen too deep in the losses he experienced in gambling.
Majority of those gamblers would really be that definitely be not minding about others advises or opinions specially if it talks about stopping gambling or simply on what they are doing.
The main thing that comes up into their mind is that its their money then they do have the rights on what they would gonna do and to those people who are really just that simply
continuing on what they are doing. This is why i dont really give out any advises about certain conditions such as this because you would really be that likely be rejected or simply
you would really be ignored. Everything would really be that according into someones control and discipline towards their actions because if they wouldnt be liking on stopping
then they would never be.

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August 23, 2024, 08:46:33 PM
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For an addicted gambler, everything is emotional because when they lose so they are excited to try to win back the loss. You should check your gambling account every week and see how much money you have deposited and how much money you have withdrawn. If you are in profit then your gambling luck is good so you can bet again. But if your losses are high then take a break from gambling for some time and try again. Gambling site owners will reduce the luck of your account when you win repeatedly.
Many gamblers do not check the history of the amount of deposits with the total weekly or monthly profits, if they accumulate everything then they tend to be able to manage their budget well and limit the use of the budget for gambling, if the losses are getting higher then taking a break from gambling is the best option to deal with gambling addiction problems. The main problem is related to budget management in gambling and if you can manage the right budget according to the limits then you are free from emotional problems and other negative things related to the impact of gambling.
It is good that a gambler should use 1% from his income for gambling and this can be done properly when you set a gambling budget for your gambling activities to enable to gamble responsible without overdoing it.

Setting a time limit is also important because when you set a time limit, it caution you from gambling at length and you will stop whenever your time has exhausted in order for you to manage your losses. Any gambler that does not set rules for himself and abide to them when gambling might become addicted unknown to him.

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August 23, 2024, 08:58:38 PM
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Well at this point in time I don't think if you can stop or convince him not to gamble again because the loss has thrown him off balance and till he/she wakes up he will continue to cause problem for himself and the best thing that will happen to him is if he realized himself and said no that's the only remedy. The situation your friend is right now is the worst situation I mean a critical situation and I want to tell you for free that gambling has forces and spirit that can mislead someone if you are not careful, these forces and spirit are those things that pushes or make one to continue gambling even when they are making loss, in order to avoid this from happening always put your money where you can't easily get it or maybe stay with someone that doesn't do gamble so that he or she can tell you to stop when you are over stepping.

Still, no matter how much effort the closest person makes to stop him from gambling, but if the gambler himself still has many ways to gamble, then the gambler will continue to gamble. No matter how much prevention is done and it will fail because after all, to stop gambling addiction is from himself with full awareness to change his lifestyle so that he is slowly able to stay away from gambling.

In addition, it seems that advice will also not be able to make gambling addicts to be able to stop quickly although indeed, if the effort continues to be done tirelessly, maybe over time the gambling addict will also be able to realize because he has fallen too deep in the losses he experienced in gambling.
Gambling addictions can only be fourth and defeated by self determination, because as time goes on the addict will be face with the urge to gamble and since gambling lately is easily accessible, because of the presences of online casinos where anyone can gamble from the comfort of they home and with high privacy, using either fiat or cryptocurrencies all are easily available, so the need for self determination is now unavoidable and highly needed.
Unlike if another person forced the addict to stay away from gambling because if there is no self determination, there is always the possibility of retraction back to the same gambling, so for gambler to avoid or fight addictions it truly self determination and nothing else.

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