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March 12, 2024, 05:46:22 AM
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When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?

In fact, we've even discussed it in many posts on gambling discussion boards. I think the OP could check out the thread that was there before, but okay no problem, maybe we can discuss it again. so like this, according to my understanding, it is outside of belief, or if it is related to belief in a religion and every prohibition. obviously, you, I, we, who believe in a belief, have violated many of the rules that apply to a belief. whether it is written or implied. It's not just gambling, right? There are many prohibitions that must be followed and obeyed by someone who adheres to it. whatever the religion, there will be prohibitions that must be obeyed and gambling is no exception.

Well, I have a question for you, what is gambling? why is it prohibited?  Is there a difference between ancient gambling and gambling in this era? If you have the answer, keep it to yourself.
for me personally, I will explain again in my version. what is gambling? a game in the modern era provided by service providers for those who like it. Gambling can be used as entertainment. yeah, indeed the current era is entertainment that involves fun. however, it is important to remember and know that gambling contains risks and involves money as a tool to play it. if you, I, we, are able to enjoy it without having to give up wanting to become rich overnight. there's nothing wrong, if we play it in my personal version..Regarding beliefs, let someone be responsible for what they believe, including me personally. well, that's my version.

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March 12, 2024, 05:57:13 AM
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In some religions authorities were chosen by chance in ancient times, long before the first democracies. The reason was on one hand that it is a very simple mechanism to choose between candidates and, on the other hand, that chance has something esoteric ("he was chosen by the gods", "the chosen one").

So I think that in some religions betting is forbidden to highlight the difference with other ones.

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Last edit: March 12, 2024, 07:20:03 AM by OceanBit
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It depends on personal beliefs and values. Like for Islam, it's seen as promoting greed and relying on luck than doing hard work. For Christianity,most see it as morally wrong because of addiction and financial problems it can cause. And for non religious, some see it as harmless fun, while for some, they worry about its negative effects on individuals and society.
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March 12, 2024, 07:12:29 AM
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When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?

At the end of the day religion was invented to try to explain how to have a better future.

Different religions differ a bit in how to do it, but basically most of them try to aim for a never reachable perfection (God).

Sins are basically things that will make your future life on Earth hell, say alcohol in excess today will make your future pretty bad. That's the idea of hell, a bad future.

On the other hand, if you stay in the right path and not commit any sins, you have the chance of having a great life in the future, that is, live in heaven.

It's not meant for after you die, it's simply the future.

So, gambling for example can make some people's future pretty bad financially speaking. So that's why it is prohibited in some religions.

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March 12, 2024, 09:33:06 AM
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It depends on personal beliefs and values. Like for Islam, it's seen as promoting greed and relying on luck than doing hard work. For Christianity,most see it as morally wrong because of addiction and financial problems it can cause. And for non religious, some see it as harmless fun, while for some, they worry about its negative effects on individuals and society.

Yup, It really depends to your personal belief and faith because even if there's some religions who doesn't allow gambling and it is strictly forbidden for them, there still some of their members who secretly participating in any gambling activities because they believe that they are the only one who should dictate what they should and shouldn't do in life, so even if it is forbidden in their religion, there are still many who disobey it.



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March 13, 2024, 06:37:18 AM
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Yup, It really depends to your personal belief and faith because even if there's some religions who doesn't allow gambling and it is strictly forbidden for them, there still some of their members who secretly participating in any gambling activities because they believe that they are the only one who should dictate what they should and shouldn't do in life, so even if it is forbidden in their religion, there are still many who disobey it.

I don't really see how those people benefit from that religion then.

At the end of the day people follow religion for a better future for themselves and everyone around them.

There's no big eye watching your every move, it's simply your own life that you are damaging with the "wrong" actions.

Whatever those "wrong" actions are, defined by your own religion that you are following, it's up to you to get to that standard, and it's also you who will get the outcomes.

No reason to do anything "secretly" as you already know what you are doing. In fact it's impossible to keep it a secret to yourself.

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March 23, 2024, 10:20:33 PM
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Yup, It really depends to your personal belief and faith because even if there's some religions who doesn't allow gambling and it is strictly forbidden for them, there still some of their members who secretly participating in any gambling activities because they believe that they are the only one who should dictate what they should and shouldn't do in life, so even if it is forbidden in their religion, there are still many who disobey it.
In our day-to-day life, we have to follow the rules of our country and/or where we live. But if we break the rule of the country then we have to suffer. We will get punished by the rules. In the same way, those who believe in any religion must believe that they will get punishment if the do anything wrong (against the rule of the religion).
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In our day-to-day life, we have to follow the rules of our country and/or where we live. But if we break the rule of the country then we have to suffer. We will get punished by the rules. In the same way, those who believe in any religion must believe that they will get punishment if the do anything wrong (against the rule of the religion).

In some cases religion will clash with civil law.

This is particularly an important issue with migrants because they bring different religions and cultures that might not be aligned with the laws of the host country.

Not sure what you can do in those places because religion and law for each person is seen as the most important thing.

Hard problem to solve in my opinion.

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March 24, 2024, 04:05:56 AM
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When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?
Gambling is good but why the religious people comdem it is that people who gamble are bond to addiction and some unusual behaviour of focusing much on it, which makes them to do unthinkable things like selling of properties to gamble, some Leeds to stealing just to gamble, some Leed to lie ad decietfulness just to gamble, covetousness taken what belongs to another just to gamble. So if you check what gamblers do most frequently is not a religious lifestyle expecially the Christians. So there are certain things you do as a gambler you remove yourself from where you were kept spiritually.

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March 24, 2024, 05:56:34 AM
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In some religions authorities were chosen by chance in ancient times, long before the first democracies. The reason was on one hand that it is a very simple mechanism to choose between candidates and, on the other hand, that chance has something esoteric ("he was chosen by the gods", "the chosen one").

So I think that in some religions betting is forbidden to highlight the difference with other ones.
We have the rights to believe in everything we think is right for us. Some Religion are strictly different from the rest, they ensured they're having upper hand to handled the crucial situations, they easily condemned activities simply because it doesn't flow with the current status of their principles. Gambling is not generally accepted world wide but in developed countries, mostly the Europeans, It have become generally accepted due to the positive impact it have on the people and its mostly the practical best sports.

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March 24, 2024, 06:40:25 AM
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Aside religion even some countries restrict it's citizen from gambling and that is because of the nature of gambling. Most persons believe gambling is for the indecent set of people, like the thugs and all of that. But  actually is what and how make use of it that make it have the kind of reputation that others sees in it. Most persons joined the gambling community because because of the kind of wins from their friends or family members. But when a user gets addicted it send a negative signal to those around him.
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Yup, It really depends to your personal belief and faith because even if there's some religions who doesn't allow gambling and it is strictly forbidden for them, there still some of their members who secretly participating in any gambling activities because they believe that they are the only one who should dictate what they should and shouldn't do in life, so even if it is forbidden in their religion, there are still many who disobey it.
In our day-to-day life, we have to follow the rules of our country and/or where we live. But if we break the rule of the country then we have to suffer. We will get punished by the rules. In the same way, those who believe in any religion must believe that they will get punishment if the do anything wrong (against the rule of the religion).

I respect your opinion just like how I respect your religion rules, mate. It is also good that we follow our beliefs especially if it will harm you and your religion. As a person from a religion that allows gambling, I respect my other friends and acquaintances who have the same beliefs as you, one of the ways I show respect is by agreeing with their opinions and the not forcing them to do so. That's why some people are forced to turn away from their beliefs because of the people who influence them.



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March 24, 2024, 08:08:09 AM
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I am quite shocked that this topic stays among active and popular for several months already. Answer to topic question is so obvious and easy. All people are different, they have different believes, different vision on different things. Everyone decides for himself what is good or bad for him, what is acceptable and what is not.

I cant understand why there is such a long discussion here. And have a feeling that this topic might drop into «which religion is better or «correct»». If I understand correctly, there isnt a single religion that is forces to accept or believe in. Everyone have their own right to have own vision on the World.

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Aside religion even some countries restrict it's citizen from gambling and that is because of the nature of gambling. Most persons believe gambling is for the indecent set of people, like the thugs and all of that. But  actually is what and how make use of it that make it have the kind of reputation that others sees in it. Most persons joined the gambling community because because of the kind of wins from their friends or family members. But when a user gets addicted it send a negative signal to those around him.
When there is a ban on an activity, of course there will be more losses than profits gained by someone involved in that activity. Indeed, most of those who gamble come from thug groups and some even have the heart to commit acts of violence against other people when they do not have Of course, the funds they can use for gambling will be very bad and will even harm other people, but there are some people who gamble with their own limits so that they will not become addicted to the games they play.

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When there is a ban on an activity, of course there will be more losses than profits gained by someone involved in that activity. Indeed, most of those who gamble come from thug groups and some even have the heart to commit acts of violence against other people when they do not have Of course, the funds they can use for gambling will be very bad and will even harm other people, but there are some people who gamble with their own limits so that they will not become addicted to the games they play.

Addiction and irresponsible gambling is the major cause of the ban of gamble in some countries, just as you said those who could not get money for gambling legally may end up selling their property or even go as far as robbery just to get money for gambling, and initial one of the reason they keep coming back to gamble is because they are chasing after their loses. If only they could realize this, they quit the addiction and focus on other things or play only when they have money to risk.
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So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
I think gambling is prohibited in almost all religions, in my religion, namely Islam, there is a very strong prohibition against gambling, meaning Muslims are not allowed to gamble. Because this prohibition is very clearly written in the Koran, as a guide given by Allah to His people, and whatever laws are written in the Koran, they must be carried out if they do not sin.

This prohibition is because gambling can poison faith, gambling promises misery which will ultimately result in a lot of debt and the gambler will become temperamental which will have a bad impact on his life and that of his family. Gambling in religion can be said to be the door to all evil, because when you gamble and are addicted to it other crimes will emerge such as robbing, stealing and so on. Every religion will make its people good, not evil, perhaps this is one of the reasons why gambling is prohibited in almost all religions on this earth.
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So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
I think gambling is prohibited in almost all religions, in my religion, namely Islam, there is a very strong prohibition against gambling, meaning Muslims are not allowed to gamble. Because this prohibition is very clearly written in the Koran, as a guide given by Allah to His people, and whatever laws are written in the Koran, they must be carried out if they do not sin.

This prohibition is because gambling can poison faith, gambling promises misery which will ultimately result in a lot of debt and the gambler will become temperamental which will have a bad impact on his life and that of his family. Gambling in religion can be said to be the door to all evil, because when you gamble and are addicted to it other crimes will emerge such as robbing, stealing and so on. Every religion will make its people good, not evil, perhaps this is one of the reasons why gambling is prohibited in almost all religions on this earth.
As you said, most religions, including Islam, forbid gambling. Respecting those beliefs is crucial. I've seen gambling ruin lives.

Imagine a responsible gambling system. Like, adults making their own decisions, not abandoning faith. Think Vegas - it's strictly regulated and entertaining for certain nights out. Wish gambling were more like that. Where folks know their limits and have pleasure sans addiction.

Obviously, we must respect beliefs. But with loads of restrictions and support for those who need it, gambling may be done well. This boosts the economy and thrills people without the drawbacks. The subject is complex, but don't you think there's a medium ground?

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March 24, 2024, 06:22:44 PM
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So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
I think gambling is prohibited in almost all religions, in my religion, namely Islam, there is a very strong prohibition against gambling, meaning Muslims are not allowed to gamble. Because this prohibition is very clearly written in the Koran, as a guide given by Allah to His people, and whatever laws are written in the Koran, they must be carried out if they do not sin.

This prohibition is because gambling can poison faith, gambling promises misery which will ultimately result in a lot of debt and the gambler will become temperamental which will have a bad impact on his life and that of his family. Gambling in religion can be said to be the door to all evil, because when you gamble and are addicted to it other crimes will emerge such as robbing, stealing and so on. Every religion will make its people good, not evil, perhaps this is one of the reasons why gambling is prohibited in almost all religions on this earth.
As you said, most religions, including Islam, forbid gambling. Respecting those beliefs is crucial. I've seen gambling ruin lives.

Imagine a responsible gambling system. Like, adults making their own decisions, not abandoning faith. Think Vegas - it's strictly regulated and entertaining for certain nights out. Wish gambling were more like that. Where folks know their limits and have pleasure sans addiction.

Obviously, we must respect beliefs. But with loads of restrictions and support for those who need it, gambling may be done well. This boosts the economy and thrills people without the drawbacks. The subject is complex, but don't you think there's a medium ground?
There would really be no issues or problems if we do really just that simply respect other religions approach towards gambling. If it turns out that this one is prohibited then its their choice
and its been written into their scriptures and as a person who do have other religion then lets just respect one another. Conflicts and other huge troubles could really be caused because of there are
really people who do really disrespects other peoples beliefs on which they do really come into a point that they do crosses up on the line on which it would really be not that recommended on that way
on which they are really just that too much when it comes to that aspect on which they should really be accepting on whatever those things that had been set.
There would really be no problems on which we should really be just letting it be and be mindful with your own business and beliefs in life.
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When there is a ban on an activity, of course there will be more losses than profits gained by someone involved in that activity. Indeed, most of those who gamble come from thug groups and some even have the heart to commit acts of violence against other people when they do not have Of course, the funds they can use for gambling will be very bad and will even harm other people, but there are some people who gamble with their own limits so that they will not become addicted to the games they play.

Addiction and irresponsible gambling is the major cause of the ban of gamble in some countries, just as you said those who could not get money for gambling legally may end up selling their property or even go as far as robbery just to get money for gambling, and initial one of the reason they keep coming back to gamble is because they are chasing after their loses. If only they could realize this, they quit the addiction and focus on other things or play only when they have money to risk.
You're absolutely correct with the your submission mate but I'll still want to add few things to what you've said already. You've stated a few reasons why gambling is banned in some religions and all your options are valid because even in my own religion, gambling is absolutely forbidden. Most of the religions where gambling is forbidden believes that gambling is mostly practiced by people who lack contentment and wants to get money by all means while other believe that gamblers are sets of lazy people who doesn't want to genuinely labour to make their ends meet and therefore decides to continue in gambling.
Also the bad effects of gambling to many people especially gambling addicts in most parts of the world is the reason why some religions decided to stand against it. Gambling isn't as bad as most of these religions interpret it to be but becoming addicted to gambling makes their interpretations to be totally right

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March 25, 2024, 07:34:12 AM
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As you said, most religions, including Islam, forbid gambling. Respecting those beliefs is crucial. I've seen gambling ruin lives.

Imagine a responsible gambling system. Like, adults making their own decisions, not abandoning faith. Think Vegas - it's strictly regulated and entertaining for certain nights out. Wish gambling were more like that. Where folks know their limits and have pleasure sans addiction.

Obviously, we must respect beliefs. But with loads of restrictions and support for those who need it, gambling may be done well. This boosts the economy and thrills people without the drawbacks. The subject is complex, but don't you think there's a medium ground?

Religion is simply a way of living a good life.

It's a promise, a plan, a blueprint, etc, so that if you follow those rules, your life will be most probably better in the future.

It simply says things like sacrifice the present for a better future.

Gambling is present focused and it forgets about tomorrow. So, of course it will most probably make life worse in the future.

But as you say there needs to be a balance between present and future, because the future is not guaranteed

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