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February 20, 2024, 09:19:41 PM
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Saw the feed on my social media, about the press conference.

https://twitter.com/HotBoxingMinute/status/1759616800541802668

Josh Taylor looks old to me, sorry for his fans here. But the press conference is funny as hell, everyone has to say something bad against each other including the trainer of Jack.

You're just stating the fact he does look old it has something to do with his training yes this is one of the evidence that Taylor is trying to cut weight he needs to maintain a weight that is nearest to his ideal weight a week before the weigh-in so he can make the 140 in a gradual manner, so instead of being in his natural weight during the training and just to drastically cut weight one or two weeks before the fight.

Taylor is doing it right, the 147 weight two weeks before the fight is an ideal weight he can easily make the cut and rehydrate in time for the fight, what happened in the press conference was expected because Caterall cannot accept the defeat it was a very controversial win considering that all titles are at stake then, it's a big frustration for Caterall and he shows it in the press conference.

Not only that, there was a slapping incident at the press conference, Caterall just could not control himself from Taylor's taunt it's only 7 days before the fight the thrash talk will continue I just hope this time they will settle once and for all who is the better fighter I hope Taylor can make the weigh-in I like to see his move and his movement in the weigh, you can easily tell if a boxer will struggle in the ring, the weigh-in is an indication.
here is the video of that slap
There are a lot of emotions during the face-off, both camp are very eager to face each other and there are a lot of words being thrown at each other before this fight. And so this is not just a taunt but they are talking this matter very personal specially Jack Catterall as he believed he was robbed in the first fight and that he should have been a champion already, so just imagine the emotions and his mentality that it took years for this fight to happen, but this time there are no belt but just bragging rights in the line. There has been a lot of domestic rivalries in UK though, so this could be one in the books. And who knows, if Jack won here there could be another fight to really settle the scores.  Some notable domestic rivalries  is Chris Eubank vs Nigel Benn, Khan vs Kell Brook, Eubank Jr vs Liam Smith.

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February 21, 2024, 08:26:49 PM
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And so Eddie Hearn is comparing the grudge match on Froch vs Groves,

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In November 2013 Carl Froch and George Groves met in Manchester for Froch’s unified super middleweight title. After a fractious build-up and nine rounds of savagery, the referee Howard Foster’s decision to step in and halt the fight in Froch’s favour took their rivalry to a new level.

Froch and Groves capitalised on the controversy of their first fight and rode the momentum to a sold-out Wembley Stadium six months later. Froch concluded that rivalry with an eighth-round stoppage in a fight that captured the public’s imagination.

https://www.boxingscene.com/taylor-catterall-hearn-echoes-froch-groves--181597

But I think this is different though, there was no knockout or knockdown in the fight and it was just Jack Catterall is a bad match-up for Josh Taylor that time and we might say he could have underestimate Jack that time.

I would also agree that this is a big fight for either, Catterall to get up in the rankings for 140 lbs and even become a mandatory, and then for Josh, he needed this big win, to at least have a future fight in 140-147 lbs as a lost would obviously will obviously take a big toll on him mentally.

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March 04, 2024, 01:16:03 PM
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ML odds for now,

Taylor - 1.70
Catterall - 2.08

So Josh is a slight favorite going into this fight. And even if he is coming from a lost, odd makers think that he can win against his rival. I think the odds will remain the same here and I don't see a wild swing and make Catterall the favorite here.

But in any case that fans knows that Taylor is way past his prime already, then a bet on Jack will be good this early.

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ML odds for now,

Taylor - 1.70
Catterall - 2.08

So Josh is a slight favorite going into this fight. And even if he is coming from a lost, odd makers think that he can win against his rival. I think the odds will remain the same here and I don't see a wild swing and make Catterall the favorite here.

But in any case that fans knows that Taylor is way past his prime already, then a bet on Jack will be good this early.

Thanks for sharing the updated betting odds, you can also add it in the OP just for reference.

Well, that's a good suggestion, Taylor doesn't look the same anymore on his last fight, so even if Taylor beat Catterall on their last meeting, but it was a close one since it was a split decision win in favor of him. This rematch might probably favor Catterall here, so being on a slight underdog, I think I would take it any day. Both fighters still have more than a month before the day of the fight, so in case Catterall will win here, I'm pretty sure the fans will be expecting a trilogy, so it's good for boxing.

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Last edit: March 04, 2024, 06:12:35 PM by AmoreJaz
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ML odds for now,

Taylor - 1.70
Catterall - 2.08

So Josh is a slight favorite going into this fight. And even if he is coming from a lost, odd makers think that he can win against his rival. I think the odds will remain the same here and I don't see a wild swing and make Catterall the favorite here.

But in any case that fans knows that Taylor is way past his prime already, then a bet on Jack will be good this early.

Thanks for sharing the updated betting odds, you can also add it in the OP just for reference.

Well, that's a good suggestion, Taylor doesn't look the same anymore on his last fight, so even if Taylor beat Catterall on their last meeting, but it was a close one since it was a split decision win in favor of him. This rematch might probably favor Catterall here, so being on a slight underdog, I think I would take it any day. Both fighters still have more than a month before the day of the fight, so in case Catterall will win here, I'm pretty sure the fans will be expecting a trilogy, so it's good for boxing.

If Catterall will indeed prepare this fight seriously, the chance of getting an upset win is very likely. As the odds is not very wide, it means, bookies are on the side that they may have equal footing if both are getting inside the ring prepared. Both boxers have good KO percentage also, but Taylor is higher than Catterall. So Taylor needs to KO Catterall at the very early rounds to get a sure win. Otherwise, if this will go the distance, Catterall can get this match on his favour.

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March 04, 2024, 10:39:11 PM
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ML odds for now,

Taylor - 1.70
Catterall - 2.08

So Josh is a slight favorite going into this fight. And even if he is coming from a lost, odd makers think that he can win against his rival. I think the odds will remain the same here and I don't see a wild swing and make Catterall the favorite here.

But in any case that fans knows that Taylor is way past his prime already, then a bet on Jack will be good this early.

Thanks for sharing the updated betting odds, you can also add it in the OP just for reference.

Well, that's a good suggestion, Taylor doesn't look the same anymore on his last fight, so even if Taylor beat Catterall on their last meeting, but it was a close one since it was a split decision win in favor of him. This rematch might probably favor Catterall here, so being on a slight underdog, I think I would take it any day. Both fighters still have more than a month before the day of the fight, so in case Catterall will win here, I'm pretty sure the fans will be expecting a trilogy, so it's good for boxing.

Yes, all of the sudden Josh Taylor looks old and past his prime against Teo Lopez and so he lost his belt just like that. He used to be the unified champion here, having all the belts, and then vacated the two if I'm not mistaken.

And so with this fight, we will see if Catterall can vindicate himself or at least shows us the he is indeed declared to be the winner in their fight. Only consolidation for him as there are no more belts in the line and probably this is the reason why Josh Taylor give him the rematch. Even if he losses, Catterall has nothing to gain except the bragging rights that he beat Josh in their rematch.

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March 05, 2024, 11:31:33 AM
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ML odds for now,

Taylor - 1.70
Catterall - 2.08

So Josh is a slight favorite going into this fight. And even if he is coming from a lost, odd makers think that he can win against his rival. I think the odds will remain the same here and I don't see a wild swing and make Catterall the favorite here.

But in any case that fans knows that Taylor is way past his prime already, then a bet on Jack will be good this early.

Thanks for sharing the updated betting odds, you can also add it in the OP just for reference.

Added it as well to the OP, thanks for the suggestion (running out of merit, I will try to get back at you,  Grin).

Well, that's a good suggestion, Taylor doesn't look the same anymore on his last fight, so even if Taylor beat Catterall on their last meeting, but it was a close one since it was a split decision win in favor of him. This rematch might probably favor Catterall here, so being on a slight underdog, I think I would take it any day. Both fighters still have more than a month before the day of the fight, so in case Catterall will win here, I'm pretty sure the fans will be expecting a trilogy, so it's good for boxing.

Yes, it look like Josh has lost some step and his mind is no longer in boxing. While Catterall wanted to get his revenge against him in this fight. Nevertheless, the odd makers might see something in Josh Taylor as they put him as slight favorite again, not like in the first fight wherein Josh was a huge favorite. Who knows, if this is anther close and controversial fight, they might go for a trilogy. But it depends on the numbers that they are going to put in this fight. If it is promising as if it says that fight wants are willing to buy then maybe a 3rd fight might happen.

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March 05, 2024, 12:16:54 PM
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Well, that's a good suggestion, Taylor doesn't look the same anymore on his last fight, so even if Taylor beat Catterall on their last meeting, but it was a close one since it was a split decision win in favor of him. This rematch might probably favor Catterall here, so being on a slight underdog, I think I would take it any day. Both fighters still have more than a month before the day of the fight, so in case Catterall will win here, I'm pretty sure the fans will be expecting a trilogy, so it's good for boxing.

They just need to unleash it all here so that the fans will hype and whoever gonna wins this one, should not reach the official's decisions, in other words, it should be a TKO because there's no point in having a trilogy at this stage of their careers since they are at the peak of it and all they need to do is exert all effort to win their match since they are being overshadowed with the other boxers' popularity and they cannot seems to get a huge fights which everyone getting nowadays, I'm talking the middle eastern one where the payment is huge. All they need to do is get themselves off those contracts before they retire.

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March 05, 2024, 10:18:24 PM
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Well, that's a good suggestion, Taylor doesn't look the same anymore on his last fight, so even if Taylor beat Catterall on their last meeting, but it was a close one since it was a split decision win in favor of him. This rematch might probably favor Catterall here, so being on a slight underdog, I think I would take it any day. Both fighters still have more than a month before the day of the fight, so in case Catterall will win here, I'm pretty sure the fans will be expecting a trilogy, so it's good for boxing.

They just need to unleash it all here so that the fans will hype and whoever gonna wins this one, should not reach the official's decisions, in other words, it should be a TKO because there's no point in having a trilogy at this stage of their careers since they are at the peak of it and all they need to do is exert all effort to win their match since they are being overshadowed with the other boxers' popularity and they cannot seems to get a huge fights which everyone getting nowadays, I'm talking the middle eastern one where the payment is huge. All they need to do is get themselves off those contracts before they retire.

Jack Catterall though is the younger if I'm not mistaken, and is not yet a battle torn fighter as compare to Josh Taylor. Who have to go to a lot to unify all the belts and I do agree that it might have added a negative effect to him as he looks like experiencing a burn-out after accomplishing it.

Of course, every boxer wanted to score a knockout win against their opponents, that is the goal in every fight. But not every night it will present itself and so you need to have plan B and be as dominant as you can and maybe the knockout will come. If not then the judges will score and hopefully you did your best. This is huge fight in UK as they are domestic rivals and so maybe a trilogy is possible because of the money that they can made and before Josh Taylor retire.
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