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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
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February 17, 2024, 12:47:23 PM |
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This is quite something that we have not really given attention to like it is one of the things that are considered when a new coin is getting listed.
Well I think in this case, the reason it could be played down on is because of the different checks and reputation verification on them through the threads like the Scam Accusation and Reputation child board of which any negative response is enough for the casino to lose customers or get tagged.
Another factor is that most of the casinos here that run on signature campaign are being handled by reputable users here and so that could explain why the team identification is not actually looked at but however some users also have contacts with the owners.
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February 17, 2024, 12:49:24 PM |
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You or forum members aren't the eligible party to ask them KYC. They have doxxed the team with license provider depending on the requirements.
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February 17, 2024, 12:50:55 PM |
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
May be it's because we already have accounts who speak on the behalf of casino sites and assits people who are facing any issues on the site. For example BC.GAME, Duelbits, Freebitcoin etc... all have their accounts on this forum and the dedicated ANN threads serve as a way to assist people with their issues and also showcase the offers and promotions on the sites. So I guess there hasn't come a real need to reveal the real identity of the people since people have become more comfortable dealing with these accounts instead.
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February 17, 2024, 12:51:37 PM |
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
I think this is also for their security. While I understand that having a designated team members in a certain project (e.g. ANN threads, startup token projects, etc.) are essential in order to confirm the authenticity of their goals and plans, in a gambling casino, it is somehow irrelevant. What separates a genuine casino from a scam one is the former's representation of itself and years of service with continued trust by establishing their reputation. Lastly I also want to point out that having a team member's profile in an online casino can be quite difficult especially if we are talking about the nature of their project. Naturally, a person may feel devastated if they lost on their games or if they staked hundreds to thousands of $$$ worth of crypto and they may channel such rage and emotion into looking for the identities of the team members. In conclusion, it may indeed compromise the safety of the team members.
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February 17, 2024, 12:52:42 PM |
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If they have an option to not disclose their personal identity, why they need to publicize it to everyone else? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) When you want to open a banks account, the banks' employees will ask you to submit your ID card and other personal information, do you ask their identity? I bet you not. I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.
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Gozie51
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February 17, 2024, 01:14:36 PM |
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I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.
Hey buddy, be cool. I think that is rather a harsh one. There is more subtle way you could have passed disagreement with his question and not this way. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yeah KYC is not a force for a player who isn't cool about it where it is specified earlier before registeration.
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February 17, 2024, 01:16:53 PM |
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Indeed! your points and answes are reasonable. The gambling industry presents a lot of risksand challenges than other industries, especially regarding the security and safety of team members. When some players experience big losses while gambling, some may react in a vey bad way, even to a point where they practice violence against casino employees or owners. Therefore, it's often better and wise to maintain a hidden identity of staff members to protect their being and prevent true harm from some specific individuals.
You or forum members aren't the eligible party to ask them KYC. They have doxxed the team with license provider depending on the requirements.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm only referring to why some casinos don't voluntarily disclose their identity or undergo KYC processes and not asking. While such action could bring positive thing like transparency and trust, understanding some casinos may choose not to do so due to various negative reasons, things about privacy and their security. Regarding your mention of licences, casinos like 1xbit which is a licensed casino as I know, they could scam players and many cases against them, without any consequences. From what I understand, and I could be mistaken.
Just for more information, stake team and owners are known to be Bijan Tehrani and Edward Craven in public : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.ffx.io%2Fimages%2F%24zoom_0.113%252C%24multiply_1.545%252C%24ratio_1.5%252C%24width_756%252C%24x_0%252C%24y_0%2Ft_crop_custom%2Fq_62%252Cf_auto%2F8920c17adacfea40268c8d6f2ac7b3d6c8936865&t=665&c=IEI2p4rKsNmxbw) Image source: https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/australian-based-stake-com-founders-dodge-580-million-claim-20230627-p5djri.html Edit: I apologize if my topic wasn't clear to many members here. To clarify, I'm not requesting for casinos to reveal their identity. As a gambler in many casinos myself, I feel comfortable without knowing the team's identity.
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February 17, 2024, 01:17:36 PM |
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Of course that's not necessary. This is where licensing is important, in my opinion the one who has the right to ask about KYC to the casino team is the gambling authority.
If the casino team's data is published it would be the same as committing suicide. They will be hunted by people who lost while gambling at the casino. What is more important than KYC is the existence of a complaint service that is facilitated by the gambling authority or gambling licensing authority. So that when we encounter problems when gambling at the casino, we know how to deal with them
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February 17, 2024, 01:22:14 PM |
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
I think it boils down on trust and reputation of the casinos. I think some of the old casinos, we know the owners by their names as some of them are active here early. As for the KYC process, if I'm not mistaken, it's a 3rd party that handles all the documentations as far as I know. For the support personnel, they have names right? not sure if that is their real names but I'm assuming it is as majority even have pictures attached with them as their avatar. And I don't think they will have to let us know the people behind them, in my opinion.
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GxSTxV (OP)
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February 17, 2024, 01:24:21 PM |
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I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.
Just to be clear I'm not offended by your answer and opinion, we are here to share thoughts and bring good things to gambling industry. Maybe my topic is not clear for you, but you should see my records in the forum as a gambler and a user of many casinos. I myself working with a casino owner that has a license and doing video calls with him with much trust, I never asked for his identity because I respect his choice and this topic is about the positive points of team identity no more.
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February 17, 2024, 01:30:29 PM |
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Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
It’s because to nature of their business. They are dealing with gambling industry which means there’s always a customer that will turn out to become problematic once they lose. Imagine being an owner and doxxed while a gambler that lose huge amount plan to get back to you or your personnel. I remember this kind of case before which a user trying to find the owner of the casino due to his losses. Their license is what makes them partially dox to license provider. I don’t really care whether I knew the owner or not because that doesn’t change my winning rate on the casino. Also it will be very hard to contact them for whatever reason since they already live support to deal with any customer issues.
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February 17, 2024, 01:31:18 PM |
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it's probably 'cause they're representing a company, you know? The name of the business is, like, the company name. If you got an issue with them and wanna go all lawsuit mode, you won't be suing the owners or the team one by one. You'd be filing that case against the whole company, so, like, it's not really necessary to spill their identities.
But, like, for some reason, you might know the team members, especially if they're just starting out with things like crowdfunding. Back in the day, with crowdfunding and all, they used to let people know who's in charge of the show, so people could check if they're trustworthy and got the skills.
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
- Do you think that is important? If a casino has a good reputation in the field of cryptocurrency, in my opinion, then it's fine. It's just like stakescom, duelbits, and other casinos that have been here for a long time in this industry; there is no transparency of the team that is shown, and yet they are doing well until now. As long as the gamblers are nice and satisfied in a reputable casino, I don't think that will be an issue at all. The important thing is that the service provided by the casino is good and enjoyable. This is the important thing, isn't it, that no one is angry between gamblers, right?
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February 17, 2024, 02:23:00 PM |
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When you want to open a banks account, the banks' employees will ask you to submit your ID card and other personal information, do you ask their identity? I bet you not.
This is a totally different case; most of the bank's top shareholders' identities are well known to the public; they are not hidden if we are to judge and compare them in that aspect. But there are very few. I mean, very few casino teams are well known in this industry. Many of them who even claim to have passed some audits might not be using their real identities to pass those verifications. It means nothing if they can just serve their purpose and don't have any form of scam scheme. To them, they don't owe the public their identity; they only have to provide it to those regulatory bodies that grant them license, as it's part of the rules. @Op, The casino owner is not even requesting gamblers identification; rather, they need to meet the procedures as required by their licence body, the same body that has access to their own personal information; the only difference is that they have access to yours, whereas you don't have access to theirs.
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February 17, 2024, 02:35:22 PM |
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
Well, from what I know through what I've read in the past concerning this same topic, it is said that casino owners do not reveal their identity, or reveal the identity of their workers for security reason, we all know that it is generally assumed that running a gambling casino, both online and offline is a very risky business, as there will always be time when players who have lost huge amount of money to the casino through their gambling activities could get really angry and plot an evil target on the casino owners, or workers, as a way of getting vengeance for their lost money. There have actually been some stories in the past where a player attacked an offline casinos and burnt the building down as a way of getting back at the casino for the money he lost playing on that casino. So, for such reasons, it has become generally believed that it's of utmost importance that casinos owners keep their physical identity away from the public, and also, the identity of their workers away from public as well, for their safety.
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February 17, 2024, 02:45:31 PM |
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically come around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.
Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering is you also thinked about this and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
The casino owner reveals his identity during the process of obtaining a license, paying taxes. He is not obliged to reveal his identity to his customers and partly for his own safety. We have all heard many stories as compulsive gamblers in their own greed lost a lot of money, and then crossed the line of the law. It is quite possible that the casino owners do not reveal their identity so that the angry gambler did not go to their home after another loss. And these are understandable reasons.
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February 17, 2024, 02:47:06 PM |
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They can only do that when they are applying for a license, if I'm a casino operator I don't want to post it on my homepage there are unsatisfied gamblers who may attack me and spread lies about my identity and that will harm my reputation and my family, and besides I don't want people in my town blaming me because I'm a casino operator many people have the wrong impression on gambling and this is something a casino operator tries to avoid.
Gambling is a different business, it's not the kind of business that operators can be proud of if they are living in a strictly religious country, so to protect their reputation and name they prefer to keep their identity hidden.
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February 17, 2024, 02:56:21 PM |
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They hid their identities also. Like the rest of us, they are also concerned about privacy and security. If some casino owners reveal their identity then its just up to them. But I think they are not going to places where people would identify them. It's hard enough to keep yourself private in the online world, the more it would be hard when you are well known. They can only do that when they are applying for a license, if I'm a casino operator I don't want to post it on my homepage there are unsatisfied gamblers who may attack me and spread lies about my identity and that will harm my reputation and my family, and besides I don't want people in my town blaming me because I'm a casino operator many people have the wrong impression on gambling and this is something a casino operator tries to avoid.
Gambling is a different business, it's not the kind of business that operators can be proud of if they are living in a strictly religious country, so to protect their reputation and name they prefer to keep their identity hidden.
Gamblers who lose a lot of money may blame the casino owner for the loss so attacking them is really possible. This case alone will be one of the things they would need to avoid. Plus criminals who plan to rob someone with lots of BTC.
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February 17, 2024, 02:57:59 PM |
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Eddie's face is always on kick.com. I think it will be easy for the authorities to trace him if they want to.
IMO, some online gambling sites are doing this for security reasons. The gambling industry is one of the biggest industries when it comes to money getting in and out. It will be difficult to protect that money if they are known to the public. This is just like the ICO's before in cryptocurrencies. They love being semi-anonymous but sometimes there are also those who are doing it for a different reason. Bad ones.
We cannot compare that with the KYC that we are passing. Imagine a team of 50 people against 1 million people. It's easier to track them than us. And, they are just obeying the rules of the country where they are established especially if it's strict against money laundering.
It's not a secret that gambling sites, physical or online are used to wash money. They cannot just let those slide and jeopardize their business which is why they do KYC. My only worry is how they keep those information secured and I wish it's well taken care of.
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