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Author Topic: [Boxing] David Benavidez vs. Olexandr Gvozdyk interim WBC Championship  (Read 515 times)
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June 21, 2024, 09:42:49 AM
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Benavidez was declared the WBC interim LHW champion and i've read some article that he is now waiting to fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev fight which for me the hardest fight of his life if as both have the power and both a natural LHW fighter.

As boxing fans, we love to see him fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev. And I think that was his back up plan if Canelo will not fight him. And so if that happens, not sure if David can conquer any of those two natural LHW. Bivol has the volume punching and ring IQ and good at setting traps. While Beterbiev is a monster and his power is very scary and it might be the first time that we might see Benavidez in trouble.

I thought Benavidez would easily dispatch the much older Gvozdyk. But it showed the limits of Benavidez. He is heavy handed, can throw combinations and has a tough chin but I guess it might not be enough for the remaining two champions of this division. Prime Gvozdyk would've easily schooled or even stop that version of Benavidez. Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.

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June 21, 2024, 09:59:34 AM
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Benavidez was declared the WBC interim LHW champion and i've read some article that he is now waiting to fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev fight which for me the hardest fight of his life if as both have the power and both a natural LHW fighter.

As boxing fans, we love to see him fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev. And I think that was his back up plan if Canelo will not fight him. And so if that happens, not sure if David can conquer any of those two natural LHW. Bivol has the volume punching and ring IQ and good at setting traps. While Beterbiev is a monster and his power is very scary and it might be the first time that we might see Benavidez in trouble.

I thought Benavidez would easily dispatch the much older Gvozdyk. But it showed the limits of Benavidez. He is heavy handed, can throw combinations and has a tough chin but I guess it might not be enough for the remaining two champions of this division. Prime Gvozdyk would've easily schooled or even stop that version of Benavidez. Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.

Yes, that's what we see in this fight at 175 lbs, it looks like David Benavidez for now could have "eaten more than you can chew". I do agree that he still have the power and the moved, but it's obvious that this division is too big for him at this point. He was in the Canelo fight and there are videos that Canelo is taunting Benavidez and he said that he will have his time, so I interpret that Canelo is going to fight Benavidez sooner or later.

As for challenging either Bivol or Beterbiev, it might be better for Benavidez to at least go down to super middleweight and clean that division up before moving again. At least if he lost at 175 lbs, he had accomplished a lot already at 168 lbs.
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June 23, 2024, 11:02:00 AM
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I try to look at the compubox (although this is not a accurate gauge, but still good stats to look at during the fight), and it says,

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Benavidez, in light heavy. debut, landed 19 of 43 punches per rnd to 14 of 58 for Gvozdyk. Benavidez landed 24 of 63 per rnd in his previous 10 fights. Benavidez had a 107-57 edge in landed punches in rnds 1-5, then just 116-106 over last 7.

https://www.boxingscene.com/compubox-punch-stats-david-benavidez-oleksandr-gvozdyk--184287

So it means that Benavidez throws less punch in his defeat against Gvozdyk. Maybe the added weight could be a big factors and then he slowed down on the last half of the fight. Meaning it could be that he gets tired and Gvozdyk almost throw the same number of punches. I do agree that his debut is not that impressive and if only Gvozdyk is very much active in the first 6 rounds, maybe he could have won in the judges hands.
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June 23, 2024, 12:12:20 PM
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Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.
That's how I also see if they are gonna fight. Benavidez the younger boxer could not dominate his opponent despite winning this via unanimous decision. Not a big win for him as fans are not entertain, I mean we were expecting a KO to hype his name in this division but it looks like he wasn't able to bring his power.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.
I agree with this. it would still be an anticipated fight as these possible fight have been talked before, maybe if it will happen and Canelo wins, he can then challenge Bivol for a rematch, that will still be a 50/50 fights despite Canelo losing on their first meeting.

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June 24, 2024, 11:00:56 AM
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Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.
That's how I also see if they are gonna fight. Benavidez the younger boxer could not dominate his opponent despite winning this via unanimous decision. Not a big win for him as fans are not entertain, I mean we were expecting a KO to hype his name in this division but it looks like he wasn't able to bring his power.

Some people say Benavidez only looked good at 168 because he was a huge guy and a weight bully in that division. It could be true. He was struggling against an old but bigger opponent that he was supposed to stop. We'll see what's next for Benavidez. Maybe he will be offered the winner of Beterbiev and Bivol or maybe Canelo has the guts to fight him now.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.
I agree with this. it would still be an anticipated fight as these possible fight have been talked before, maybe if it will happen and Canelo wins, he can then challenge Bivol for a rematch, that will still be a 50/50 fights despite Canelo losing on their first meeting.

Canelo defending the undisputed championship at 168 against Benavidez would be great. It's also the perfect time because Bivol and Beterbiev are also set to collide to decide the undisputed champion at 175 and Canelo can fight the winner for all the belts at 175.

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June 24, 2024, 03:52:49 PM
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Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.
That's how I also see if they are gonna fight. Benavidez the younger boxer could not dominate his opponent despite winning this via unanimous decision. Not a big win for him as fans are not entertain, I mean we were expecting a KO to hype his name in this division but it looks like he wasn't able to bring his power.

Some people say Benavidez only looked good at 168 because he was a huge guy and a weight bully in that division. It could be true. He was struggling against an old but bigger opponent that he was supposed to stop. We'll see what's next for Benavidez. Maybe he will be offered the winner of Beterbiev and Bivol or maybe Canelo has the guts to fight him now.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.
I agree with this. it would still be an anticipated fight as these possible fight have been talked before, maybe if it will happen and Canelo wins, he can then challenge Bivol for a rematch, that will still be a 50/50 fights despite Canelo losing on their first meeting.

Canelo defending the undisputed championship at 168 against Benavidez would be great. It's also the perfect time because Bivol and Beterbiev are also set to collide to decide the undisputed champion at 175 and Canelo can fight the winner for all the belts at 175.

Based on this fight, yes, it looks like Benavidez is too big for 168 lbs, but just regular at 175 lbs. And probably that's why he really looks monster at 168 lbs and why boxing fans think Canelo is avoiding him because he is so called Monster. But against a old Gvozdyk, he really looks just a regular fighter.

But he now holds the interim belt (but we all know that this doesn't mean a thing), so he is waiting for the winner of Beterbiev against Bivol.

Might be better to for him to be at 168 lbs and go with the sweepstakes and fight Canelo.
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June 25, 2024, 01:28:03 AM
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Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.
That's how I also see if they are gonna fight. Benavidez the younger boxer could not dominate his opponent despite winning this via unanimous decision. Not a big win for him as fans are not entertain, I mean we were expecting a KO to hype his name in this division but it looks like he wasn't able to bring his power.

Some people say Benavidez only looked good at 168 because he was a huge guy and a weight bully in that division. It could be true. He was struggling against an old but bigger opponent that he was supposed to stop. We'll see what's next for Benavidez. Maybe he will be offered the winner of Beterbiev and Bivol or maybe Canelo has the guts to fight him now.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.
I agree with this. it would still be an anticipated fight as these possible fight have been talked before, maybe if it will happen and Canelo wins, he can then challenge Bivol for a rematch, that will still be a 50/50 fights despite Canelo losing on their first meeting.

Canelo defending the undisputed championship at 168 against Benavidez would be great. It's also the perfect time because Bivol and Beterbiev are also set to collide to decide the undisputed champion at 175 and Canelo can fight the winner for all the belts at 175.

I do agree, being a bully at super middleweight because you are too big for that weight class, but then you go up just 7 lbs and you don't have your power anymore and can't knock down or knockout a old opponent.

So we might say that he is exposed by Gvozdyk, and fighting true LHW will be a recipe for disaster for him. Bivol has the chin and hand speed and a decent power, but the scary Beterbiev, boxing's fighter that has knockout all his opponent. So just imagine what this two will do to him. He should really stay in his comfort zone of 168 lbs and continue to bait Canelo to fight him.

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June 25, 2024, 01:50:19 AM
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Benavidez was declared the WBC interim LHW champion and i've read some article that he is now waiting to fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev fight which for me the hardest fight of his life if as both have the power and both a natural LHW fighter.

As boxing fans, we love to see him fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev. And I think that was his back up plan if Canelo will not fight him. And so if that happens, not sure if David can conquer any of those two natural LHW. Bivol has the volume punching and ring IQ and good at setting traps. While Beterbiev is a monster and his power is very scary and it might be the first time that we might see Benavidez in trouble.

I thought Benavidez would easily dispatch the much older Gvozdyk. But it showed the limits of Benavidez. He is heavy handed, can throw combinations and has a tough chin but I guess it might not be enough for the remaining two champions of this division. Prime Gvozdyk would've easily schooled or even stop that version of Benavidez. Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.
Benavidez gets lucky against Beterbiev when both of them fight? I don't want to emphasize the 100% knock out ratio of Beterbiev, but it's just amazing to see a boxer having that kind of record, and I don't think Benavidez will even have a chance against both him, and Bivol.

As for Bivol, he's good at outboxing his opponent like you said, and he will do it against him as well. We might see him doing that against Beterbiev as well a few months from now. Gvozdyk is too old for him and although Beterbiev is near at his post-prime age anymore, I think that he can still knock Benavidez out if they fight each other. I guess let's see how Benavidez will perform now that he's in the LHW division already, and from there, he will decide whether he will stay, or will return at Super Middleweight and will try his chance again against Canelo. Cheesy

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Benavidez was declared the WBC interim LHW champion and i've read some article that he is now waiting to fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev fight which for me the hardest fight of his life if as both have the power and both a natural LHW fighter.

As boxing fans, we love to see him fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev. And I think that was his back up plan if Canelo will not fight him. And so if that happens, not sure if David can conquer any of those two natural LHW. Bivol has the volume punching and ring IQ and good at setting traps. While Beterbiev is a monster and his power is very scary and it might be the first time that we might see Benavidez in trouble.

I thought Benavidez would easily dispatch the much older Gvozdyk. But it showed the limits of Benavidez. He is heavy handed, can throw combinations and has a tough chin but I guess it might not be enough for the remaining two champions of this division. Prime Gvozdyk would've easily schooled or even stop that version of Benavidez. Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.
Benavidez gets lucky against Beterbiev when both of them fight? I don't want to emphasize the 100% knock out ratio of Beterbiev, but it's just amazing to see a boxer having that kind of record, and I don't think Benavidez will even have a chance against both him, and Bivol.

As for Bivol, he's good at outboxing his opponent like you said, and he will do it against him as well. We might see him doing that against Beterbiev as well a few months from now. Gvozdyk is too old for him and although Beterbiev is near at his post-prime age anymore, I think that he can still knock Benavidez out if they fight each other. I guess let's see how Benavidez will perform now that he's in the LHW division already, and from there, he will decide whether he will stay, or will return at Super Middleweight and will try his chance again against Canelo. Cheesy

We've seen him though at 175 lbs and most of us here agree that he don't impressed as much as he is at super middleweight. And for me that his is best weight class and not 175 lbs specially that we still have the two headed Russian monster in Bivol and Beterbiev.

He should return to super middleweight, that is again his comfort zone. And he should be chasing Canelo because that's what fans wanted to see. It's more on Canelo testing his mettle against the Mexican Monster.
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Benavidez was declared the WBC interim LHW champion and i've read some article that he is now waiting to fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev fight which for me the hardest fight of his life if as both have the power and both a natural LHW fighter.

As boxing fans, we love to see him fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev. And I think that was his back up plan if Canelo will not fight him. And so if that happens, not sure if David can conquer any of those two natural LHW. Bivol has the volume punching and ring IQ and good at setting traps. While Beterbiev is a monster and his power is very scary and it might be the first time that we might see Benavidez in trouble.

I thought Benavidez would easily dispatch the much older Gvozdyk. But it showed the limits of Benavidez. He is heavy handed, can throw combinations and has a tough chin but I guess it might not be enough for the remaining two champions of this division. Prime Gvozdyk would've easily schooled or even stop that version of Benavidez. Given Beterbiev's age, maybe Benavidez gets lucky. But against Bivol, he will be badly outboxed and if he remains having that kind of soft body he might not be able to survive for 12 rounds.

If I'm Canelo, I will call out Benavidez at 168 for the undisputed belts. Canelo is not also in his prime but based on his fight against Mungia he will beat Benavidez.
Benavidez gets lucky against Beterbiev when both of them fight? I don't want to emphasize the 100% knock out ratio of Beterbiev, but it's just amazing to see a boxer having that kind of record, and I don't think Benavidez will even have a chance against both him, and Bivol.

As for Bivol, he's good at outboxing his opponent like you said, and he will do it against him as well. We might see him doing that against Beterbiev as well a few months from now. Gvozdyk is too old for him and although Beterbiev is near at his post-prime age anymore, I think that he can still knock Benavidez out if they fight each other. I guess let's see how Benavidez will perform now that he's in the LHW division already, and from there, he will decide whether he will stay, or will return at Super Middleweight and will try his chance again against Canelo. Cheesy

Beterbiev could still have that one good fight in him before we can say that he is no longer in his prime. And I think this fight is going to define how great Beterbiev is, I mean 100% knockout ratio that record is really scary.

For the Benavidez, there's still a lot of him to proved at 168 lbs, before really jumping on either Bivol or Beterbiev. He said that no one wanted to fight him, but from what they see against Gvozdyk, his opponents might think that he is over-hype because everyone talks that Canelo is afraid of him including myself. But I guess Canelo is just waiting for the perfect time to give Benavidez a crack against him and it could be sooner than we expected.

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And this is the latest on David Benavidez, WBC Grants David Benavidez Two-Week Extension to Decide Position.

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Unbeaten David Benavidez was granted a two-week extension by the World Boxing Council on Friday to decide whether he wants to remain mandatory super middleweight challenger to Saul "Canelo" Alvarez or remain an interim light heavyweight titleholder.

So what do you think should Benavidez do here?

As for me, he should drop that interim light heavyweight title and still go down to super middleweight and chase Saul Alvarez. That has been his dream fight and he has been chasing Alvarez for many years.

Doesn't make sense to stay at 175 lbs, his performance against Gvozdyk is not that impressive.
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June 30, 2024, 03:11:52 AM
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^^ It's better for him at Super Middle weight as he is trying to get a fight with Canelo Alvarez. I do think that Canelo will give that to him, it's just a matter of time. He already have given Munguia a Mexican and bet that young fellow. Berlanga could be next for him, and after that, perhaps it will be Benavidez biggest paycheck for sure. He just need to be patience, he is still young and not force Canelo.

If he stays at LHW, although he looks to be bigger, his power might not be there and he can't even knockdown and old fighter in Gvozdyk. And if not for his early work, he could have lost this fight as he faded in the second half of it.
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June 30, 2024, 03:31:00 AM
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And this is the latest on David Benavidez, WBC Grants David Benavidez Two-Week Extension to Decide Position.

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Unbeaten David Benavidez was granted a two-week extension by the World Boxing Council on Friday to decide whether he wants to remain mandatory super middleweight challenger to Saul "Canelo" Alvarez or remain an interim light heavyweight titleholder.

So what do you think should Benavidez do here?

As for me, he should drop that interim light heavyweight title and still go down to super middleweight and chase Saul Alvarez. That has been his dream fight and he has been chasing Alvarez for many years.

Doesn't make sense to stay at 175 lbs, his performance against Gvozdyk is not that impressive.

I guess Canelo should be the priority. He's been calling out Canelo. He's been demanding for Canelo. So if there's another opportunity for the fight to get even an inch closer he should grab it right away. It shouldn't even take a minute for him to say yes. What's the trade-off anyway? An interim title? A future in a weight class he doesn't seem to fit so far? A possible shot at Bivol or Beterbiev? If it takes him long enough to decide, perhaps he's now reconsidering his confidence that he can beat Canelo?

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July 01, 2024, 01:18:24 PM
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And this is the latest on David Benavidez, WBC Grants David Benavidez Two-Week Extension to Decide Position.

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Unbeaten David Benavidez was granted a two-week extension by the World Boxing Council on Friday to decide whether he wants to remain mandatory super middleweight challenger to Saul "Canelo" Alvarez or remain an interim light heavyweight titleholder.

So what do you think should Benavidez do here?

As for me, he should drop that interim light heavyweight title and still go down to super middleweight and chase Saul Alvarez. That has been his dream fight and he has been chasing Alvarez for many years.

Doesn't make sense to stay at 175 lbs, his performance against Gvozdyk is not that impressive.

I guess Canelo should be the priority. He's been calling out Canelo. He's been demanding for Canelo. So if there's another opportunity for the fight to get even an inch closer he should grab it right away. It shouldn't even take a minute for him to say yes. What's the trade-off anyway? An interim title? A future in a weight class he doesn't seem to fit so far? A possible shot at Bivol or Beterbiev? If it takes him long enough to decide, perhaps he's now reconsidering his confidence that he can beat Canelo?

Thanks, I guess I'm not the only one that really wanted to see Canelo vs Benavidez fight happening next and so David shouldn't just jump on the light heavyweight and go after Bivol and Beterbiev.

So it's really best for him to just wait for Canelo, Alvarez will be criticized if he will not get David a chance. Maybe Alvarez is just waiting for the right timing to make the fight hype and ripe as possible so that it will one of the biggest fight and continue to be the cash cow in boxing. And again as we have seen Benavidez at 175 lbs, he is not as sharp and impressive.
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July 01, 2024, 02:14:20 PM
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So it's really best for him to just wait for Canelo, Alvarez will be criticized if he will not get David a chance. Maybe Alvarez is just waiting for the right timing to make the fight hype and ripe as possible so that it will one of the biggest fight and continue to be the cash cow in boxing. And again as we have seen Benavidez at 175 lbs, he is not as sharp and impressive.

Canelo should fight Benavidez, as I believe he can beat him. Benavidez's performance against Gvozdyk, in my opinion, was not impressive. Despite the win, I saw some weaknesses that Canelo could easily exploit. Before, I thought Benavidez had an edge against Canelo, but after seeing this fight, I've changed my mind. I believe Canelo should take this opportunity and win the battle. Canelo is often criticized for cherry-picking his opponents. This fight should satisfy the critics, and a win here will earn their respect.

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July 02, 2024, 08:18:22 AM
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So it's really best for him to just wait for Canelo, Alvarez will be criticized if he will not get David a chance. Maybe Alvarez is just waiting for the right timing to make the fight hype and ripe as possible so that it will one of the biggest fight and continue to be the cash cow in boxing. And again as we have seen Benavidez at 175 lbs, he is not as sharp and impressive.

Canelo should fight Benavidez, as I believe he can beat him. Benavidez's performance against Gvozdyk, in my opinion, was not impressive. Despite the win, I saw some weaknesses that Canelo could easily exploit. Before, I thought Benavidez had an edge against Canelo, but after seeing this fight, I've changed my mind. I believe Canelo should take this opportunity and win the battle. Canelo is often criticized for cherry-picking his opponents. This fight should satisfy the critics, and a win here will earn their respect.

It's not only your opinion mate, almost everyone here is saying that Benavidez's performance against Gvozdyk, is not that impressive. Yes, I think every boxer has it's weakness, although Benavidez has the hand speed and power, but is no longer present when he goes up to 175 lbs.

Canelo is still known to counter and have that deadly hook to the body and then to face. Although Bivol was able to neutralized that as he is the heavier and bigger guy when he fought Canelo at 168 lbs, Benavidez though can learn from that fight and see if he can copy that Bivol style and so he has a good chance to beat Canelo. And again, he should stay at 168 lbs and Canelo should give Benavidez a chance to crack him.

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July 03, 2024, 11:56:04 AM
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And this is the latest on David Benavidez, WBC Grants David Benavidez Two-Week Extension to Decide Position.

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Unbeaten David Benavidez was granted a two-week extension by the World Boxing Council on Friday to decide whether he wants to remain mandatory super middleweight challenger to Saul "Canelo" Alvarez or remain an interim light heavyweight titleholder.

So what do you think should Benavidez do here?

As for me, he should drop that interim light heavyweight title and still go down to super middleweight and chase Saul Alvarez. That has been his dream fight and he has been chasing Alvarez for many years.

Doesn't make sense to stay at 175 lbs, his performance against Gvozdyk is not that impressive.

This though, as per article,

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The wait for Alvarez has been painful for Benavidez – two years as the No. 1 contender and more than eight months as mandatory.

Damn, I didn't know that Benavidez has waited for this long to get Canelo and it seems that Canelo doesn't want to give him that fight. Nevertheless, it will be a disaster if Canelo is not willing to get David a fight, he should before he retires.

It will not be good to him because David Benavidez has been the mandatory and he skipped him and instead give Munguia the chance first.

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