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February 25, 2024, 10:25:17 PM
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Many consider betting in a lottery as a gambling platform that is hard to win you only need to win the major prize for you to be called the luckiest guy on Earth and because of this gamblers do not put in a lot of money some people deny themselves to be a gambler yet bet on lotto but on a betting platform like a cockpit arena you have to be a real gambler to be able to play this game and people puts in more money because they have a good chance of winning than they do on a lottery so you are likely become a compulsive gambler when betting in a lottery.
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February 25, 2024, 10:35:27 PM
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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
No, and weird how different it's in here. All gambling in my country gambling is highly regulated, and goes trough "Veikkaus Oy", which is a astate-owned company, so there's really just one operator, and gambling outside of it is illegal, at least serious gambling. No one is going to bust gambling between friends, but winning or losing in those are not legally binding contracts in any way.

And obviously there's no kind of brutal animal cruelity based sports are allowed, like cockfighting. I wouldn't bet on those even if i had a change to make a fortune with them.

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February 25, 2024, 10:36:15 PM
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Some gambling games have worse reputation than others because indeed some gambling games encourage more reckless behavior than others.
Lottery tickets are less addictive because there's a lottery run every few days, maybe twice a week. And if you buy a single ticket, or 100, in the grand scheme of things your chances to win anything are still very very low.

But for example slots encourage to just keep dropping your money in, with a very high house edge still and for the most part no provable fairness. But here there exists a different issue...
If I was the spouse of someone coming home from playing cockfighting bets... I'd roast them for encouraging something so unethical.

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February 25, 2024, 10:47:02 PM
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I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
It's a difference in the perspective of the two games imo. Lotteries in general are accepted by the wider audience due to how it has spread through society. Cockfighting on the other hand is more frowned upon in general (at least, from what I know). It's rather similar to how people view other similar types like Bingo (it's pretty popular in my area) vs say brick and mortar casinos/online casinos. It might stem from how the process is done or something but idrk, I don't find that much difference between the two anyway.

 
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February 25, 2024, 10:47:42 PM
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I can see why the there's a different view on those two gambling platforms. One reason is the morality on life getting taken for someone's pleasure and profit and then the other is resources pent.
How many hours would you spend when you go to a cockpit arena and what's the minimum bet if there's any? How much money and time do you spend to prepare your rooster before it's ready to fight?
It doesn't take a lot of effort to buy a lottery ticket. It probably doesn't take much money when compared to betting on cockfighting.
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February 25, 2024, 11:30:17 PM
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Some gambling games have worse reputation than others because indeed some gambling games encourage more reckless behavior than others.
Lottery tickets are less addictive because there's a lottery run every few days, maybe twice a week. And if you buy a single ticket, or 100, in the grand scheme of things your chances to win anything are still very very low.

But for example slots encourage to just keep dropping your money in, with a very high house edge still and for the most part no provable fairness. But here there exists a different issue...
If I was the spouse of someone coming home from playing cockfighting bets... I'd roast them for encouraging something so unethical.
Cockfighting bets are usually unhealthy for those who are not gamblers but for those who loves cockfighting, it serves a heaven to their feelings. However, cockfighting bets are riskier than any low risk games. So one should manage to gamble only on the amount he is comfortable of losing, otherwise he will end up with an empty wallet.

Lottery on one hand, aside from it’s made for charities, people who are betting on it can easily manage their bets and accept their losses knowing lottery has always have the lowest chances of winning. And people knew it already but still try their luck winning the jackpot prize.

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February 25, 2024, 11:56:54 PM
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Many consider betting in a lottery as a gambling platform that is hard to win you only need to win the major prize for you to be called the luckiest guy on Earth and because of this gamblers do not put in a lot of money some people deny themselves to be a gambler yet bet on lotto but on a betting platform like a cockpit arena you have to be a real gambler to be able to play this game and people puts in more money because they have a good chance of winning than they do on a lottery so you are likely become a compulsive gambler when betting in a lottery.
I have never gamble on Lotto because sometimes when I tried to looking into it is a kind of confusing to me and so, what I did was to entirely rely on sports betting it's more easier to think of than any other gambling we have since is sports and can easily explain and understand what someone is doing, we can watch and gives their final review and outcome of the match with that same method during next match it's easier for one to place bet on the team to win.

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February 25, 2024, 11:58:12 PM
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Cockfighting bets are usually unhealthy for those who are not gamblers but for those who loves cockfighting, it serves a heaven to their feelings. However, cockfighting bets are riskier than any low risk games. So one should manage to gamble only on the amount he is comfortable of losing, otherwise he will end up with an empty wallet.

Lottery on one hand, aside from it’s made for charities, people who are betting on it can easily manage their bets and accept their losses knowing lottery has always have the lowest chances of winning. And people knew it already but still try their luck winning the jackpot prize.
Well I don't know. First of all cockfighting is animal abuse. Gambling in and of itself has its downsides when it comes to affecting one's psychology, seeing animals hurt each other potentially to the death probably also does damage to the audience's perception of the world and psychology in ways that are hard to understand.

As much as we like gambling, cockfighting is a type of gambling we should recommend against in my humble opinion. There should be limits to what types of events one can bet on for sure.

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February 26, 2024, 12:21:15 AM
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It seems there is this perception that cockfighting is somehow a dirty gambling while lottery is not. Cockfighting is frowned upon by many people and they even dislike others who are fond of it. But they probably don't find those who bet on lottery equally disgusting.

But what makes cockfighting worse than betting on lottery is that it could drain your money fast. In lottery, you don't have to bring so much money. As a matter of fact, you only need a few dollars to be able to bet. And it also doesn't take much time from you. Cockfighting, on the other hand, requires you to have more money and you will also leave your family to enjoy it.

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February 26, 2024, 03:28:43 AM
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This is very natural if there are differences in perception about the business they run, even though both are based on luck. But as far as I know, the cockpit game does experience more losses, but there are also some who are lucky and those are people who are really good at the game, if they are amateurs then he would lose all the money they had. Apart from that, this game is not liked by the majority of people because it involves living creatures and seems to hurt these living creatures and I myself would also rather play other types of gambling than having to play gambling like that, whereas the lottery game is not a bad thing for me, therefore society gives more good impression of the game.

The lottery game itself does not involve living creatures and is only based on luck and everyone can allocate most of their time to other things because the lottery is just placing bets and we just wait for the results while the second game mentioned above most people spend most of their time in that place and in the end went home empty-handed. Basically, both have their own drawbacks depending on the individual who can differentiate between which is better and which is worse and there are also some who consider the second game to be just entertainment so it doesn't cause any problems, even if they experience losses in the lottery game, they also don't necessarily get lucky.
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February 26, 2024, 05:00:34 AM
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I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?
One can lose a fortune in any form of gambling. I don't consider any form of gambling less risky or less expensive. It is the behaviour of the gambler that will determine how much he loses and not the type of gambling. Many people have lost so much money in the lotto because they were not able to control themselves and I am sure there are also responsible cockpit bettors.

Another determining factor is how much you place on bets per time. One can bet heavily and lose all in the lotto while I might use small bets consistently in the cockpit which will make me lose small. Anybody who has a negative view of a betting operator because of the kind of gambling he offers is not well-informed about gambling. I can only have such a negative view if the type of gambling is illegal or promotes violence and other criminal activities. I will not bet on cockfighting because I see it as inhumane, cruel and barbaric.

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It's probably the money and time that's lost in the game that's making the difference, a lottery ticket costs around .3 USD apiece compared to a cockfight which doesn't just consume the money but also the time of the person that are breeding these fighting cocks plus there's also the element of blood that's making it unpopular to a lot of people and so it's bound to be that there's a person that will hate on the way you do your business plus unlike lottery, it doesn't directly involve any kind of animal cruelty and a lot of people have pets like dogs and cats and a lot of them think that this kind of entertainment is distasteful and totally devoid of any kind of humane treatment from animals and being an owner of a cockfighting ring makes you complicit to all the violence that's involved in the arena, there's also the fact that people can also get killed in this places like they're nothing, there's a lot of stories about these people dying because someone that they've fought against in the match.
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I think there will always be a stigma attached to any gambling operation where animals are hurt.

We have illegal "dog fights" in our city and this is frowned on by most people. Why do you want to bet on fights where animals are hurt or killed?

A lot of the fights are rigged, because it is not regulated. People do not like it when the gambling are rigged.

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Well, I think maybe because of the nature of the game, while in lotto you can only lose a specific amount of money, a little money in every ticket, while in cock fighting the owners need to invest in taking care of their chicken for fighting so it will cost some money, and in the phase of arena there will only 50% chances of winning, and it depends on how much money the owner invested and how much money the owner also put as a bet, so losing a lot of money will be more likely in cock fighting arena, and because the owners or gamblers are giving more attention to their fighters than what they should do. But the thing is, the blame should not be on the owner, because the one who is suffering is themselves also. If they can control their hobbies, then there should not be any problem at all.

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It's understandable to have different attitudes in different gambling platforms. Like for Lotto, it's viewed more positively because it's less risky, socially accepted, regulated, and offer fixed odds of winning. Players can control their betting habits since they can choose how much to bet and when to stop playing. While for cockfighting, it's viewed more negatively because it's more risky wherein you can lose large amount of money, it can be more addictive and can have a problematic gambling behavior. As a gambler and consumer, it's important to be aware of the risks and make informed decision about where and how to gamble responsibly.
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No, I don't have the same situation in my country. Cockpit Arena would be probably illegal here. But I realize that's not what you are asking about. Regarding your question I will tell this: it Cockpit Arena was so bad and all people despised it, nobody would go there and it would go bankrupt. I'm sure that not all people end up empty-handed there, some bettors win, some of them win big. And that's why the Cockpit Arena prosper in your city.

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February 26, 2024, 06:38:22 AM
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It's understandable to have different attitudes in different gambling platforms. Like for Lotto, it's viewed more positively because it's less risky, socially accepted, regulated, and offer fixed odds of winning. Players can control their betting habits since they can choose how much to bet and when to stop playing. While for cockfighting, it's viewed more negatively because it's more risky wherein you can lose large amount of money, it can be more addictive and can have a problematic gambling behavior. As a gambler and consumer, it's important to be aware of the risks and make informed decision about where and how to gamble responsibly.

It’s the same in terms of controlling bets since you have a choice on how much you can bet on cock fight. Actually, Lotto is much riskier because it has a very low winning percentage compared to cock fight which you just have 50% outcome for winning.

I believe cock fight received too much criticism because it requires a lot of gambling time since it consumes one day for a tournament to end while most players finish all the games until the end unlike lotto that doesn’t need to pay attention because drawing of winners is done via TV while you can see the result even not on live draw.

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Even though both types of business are gambling, they are different. Why the owner of the lotto outlet is more respected by people is probably because he provides more transparent and good service to the gamblers who want to play there, so many people praise him for that. Meanwhile, why people ridicule the arena cockpit owner more is probably because the business they run may not be very transparent and fair - you know how the cockfighting gambling business is operated, usually there is a lot of injustice and fraud there. So because of the service and how the gambling business is run, people's views on gambling operators can be different.

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February 26, 2024, 08:08:33 AM
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I wonder why these two brothers receive different impressions when both are running a gambling platform, honestly, I prefer my friends and relatives to bet on the lotto but I advise them to be careful when playing in a cockpit, because in a cockpit arena, you can wipe out all your money and you end up empty-handed because the games are continuous you have no control and you are tempted to continue playing or lose everything whereas in Lotto you can allocate your bets.

Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?

Competition is a helpful for the business and the consumers, and fake competition is even better for the business. When a family runs competiting businesses that look very different, people might not be aware that it all belongs to the same family. This lets the consumer think that they have a choice where they gamble, but in the end all the money they spend gambling just goes to the same family. In my city we have some electronic shops that offer the same type of products and slightly different prices and the stores look different, but both are owned by the same company. Whatever the consumer chooses, he will end up in one of the two stores and the company gets 100% of the business. As for gambling in my country, it's highly regulated and there isn't much option to create your own business. Lotteries are only owned by the state, there can't be private lotteries for profit, the only option is to run a lottery for a good cause. As for casino, they need a licence that is hard to get and there will usually only be one casino per city. The only real option here would be sports betting, but there is already one large company having tons of stores in all the majority city. It will be hard for a family to start competiting here.
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February 26, 2024, 11:23:36 AM
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Do you have the same situation like this in your country where gambling operators are not getting the same treatment?


Lotto is more affordable to all people from all walks of life even nongamblers who are lured to a huge jackpot will eventually bet, I have a lot of fo friends who are not into gambling but when the prize reaches hundreds of millions they decide to take a chance, they don't even have to analyze a number they can also use a lucky pick of the lotto and they don't even have to spend a lot of money a $1 bet can get you 2 tickers, compared to cockfighters where you need to be a veteran cockfighting bettor so you can check what cocks are likely to win.

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