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March 02, 2024, 07:05:57 PM
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The SEC has been actively pursuing regulatory action against several cryptocurrency companies, including Binance, Coinbase, Ripple, LBRY, and Kraken. This has raised questions about the classification of crypto assets and the SEC's authority in this evolving market.

In May 2023, LBRY settled with the SEC for $111,614 to avoid a lengthy and expensive legal battle[1]. Similarly, Kraken settled a separate SEC charge regarding its staking program in February 2023 for $30 million[2]. While some within the crypto community criticized Kraken for settling the initial charge, it highlighted the significant financial burden of battling the SEC[3].

Despite the earlier settlement, the SEC filed a new lawsuit against Kraken in November 2023, alleging that the exchange operates as an unregistered securities exchange and broker-dealer for certain digital assets. This suggests a broader SEC aim to establish regulatory control over the crypto industry. This time, Kraken did not disappoint us: Kraken filed a motion to dismiss the SEC's lawsuit in February 2024. They argue that the SEC is exceeding its authority and that cryptocurrencies involved are not securities under the Howey Test legal framework. Additionally, they claim the SEC is using enforcement actions instead of clear regulations[4].

A Kraken victory could significantly impact the future of crypto regulation. It could limit the SEC's reach in the crypto market and potentially pave the way for clearer and more specific crypto regulations, fostering a more stable environment for all stakeholders. The Blockchain Association, a crypto industry advocacy group, has filed an amicus brief supporting Kraken, further solidifying the industry's unified front against the SEC's actions[5]. The crypto community needs a strong voice to engage with the SEC. By working together, we can promote better understanding of the industry and advocate for fair regulations that protect investors and foster innovation.

While I wasn't previously a Kraken user, their stance against the SEC has definitely increased my respect for them. Their fight reminds me of Ripple's resilience in the face of regulatory hurdles. I will be closely following the SEC lawsuit. Here's to Kraken's victory - a win for them is a win for the future of crypto!

I want to hear your opinion about this drama:
  • Is this lawsuit important for the development and future of crypto?
  • What % chance do you think Kraken has of winning the lawsuit?
  • Does this lawsuit motivate you to love and use Kraken's services?

References:
[1] Crypto Firm LBRY to Challenge Ruling It Violated U.S. Securities Law
[2] Crypto exchange Kraken settles with SEC for $30 million, will close U.S. staking operation
[3] Ripple will have spent $200 million fighting SEC lawsuit, CEO says
[4] The real story of the SEC’s suit against Kraken, and why Kraken is moving to dismiss the case
[5] Kraken Receives Blockchain Association’s Backing In SEC Battle

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March 02, 2024, 09:46:07 PM
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I want to hear your opinion about this drama:
  • Is this lawsuit important for the development and future of crypto?
  • What % chance do you think Kraken has of winning the lawsuit?
  • Does this lawsuit motivate you to love and use Kraken's services?


1. Anything that SEC does against crypto like filing lawsuits, is good to the future of crypto. I mean in this case, Kraken has file back and so the companies are not going to sit back here. SEC's argument though, I think Kraken can go around that argument.

2. Very hard to say what's the chances of Kraken, but in any case it will be like 50/50 for them.

3. I'm not a user of Kraken though, no question that they are somewhat a top tier exchange. But for others who have been trading with Kraken, I don't think that they will be affected by this. In any case, Kraken will look solid in their eyes and maybe continue to trade with them.
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March 03, 2024, 01:09:42 AM
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Voicing against SEC lawsuit and giving support for Kraken is not going to make any impact at all, arguably the future of SEC could be limited only if the lawsuit is dismissed but the chances of happening is very minimal. SEC will go hard and strong against Kraken so there is no option for them now to see what the end result will be.









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March 03, 2024, 01:38:43 AM
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Yes, this lawsuit is indeed significant for the future of crypto. It’s not just about Kraken, but about the broader implications for the crypto industry. If Kraken wins, it could set a precedent that limits the SEC’s authority over crypto, potentially leading to clearer and more specific regulations. This could foster a more stable environment for all stakeholders in the crypto industry.

It’s important to note that the outcome will likely hinge on whether the court agrees with Kraken’s argument that the cryptocurrencies involved are not securities under the Howey Test legal framework.

I can understand why some people might feel more positively towards Kraken due to their stance in this lawsuit. Their willingness to challenge the SEC’s authority could be seen as a stand for the crypto community at large.

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March 03, 2024, 05:12:31 AM
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Voicing against SEC lawsuit and giving support for Kraken is not going to make any impact at all, arguably the future of SEC could be limited only if the lawsuit is dismissed but the chances of happening is very minimal. SEC will go hard and strong against Kraken so there is no option for them now to see what the end result will be.

Kraken is one of the major European exchanges so they will probably make a deal with sec to go around it. Perhaps another exchange is going to pay to the sec like binance did. Few million or even billions of dollars is not that of a problem for a exchange like this. If sec do sometimes like this there is very little we can do even we raise up Against sec.









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March 04, 2024, 03:21:41 AM
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Voicing against SEC lawsuit and giving support for Kraken is not going to make any impact at all, arguably the future of SEC could be limited only if the lawsuit is dismissed but the chances of happening is very minimal. SEC will go hard and strong against Kraken so there is no option for them now to see what the end result will be.

Kraken is one of the major European exchanges so they will probably make a deal with sec to go around it. Perhaps another exchange is going to pay to the sec like binance did. Few million or even billions of dollars is not that of a problem for a exchange like this. If sec do sometimes like this there is very little we can do even we raise up Against sec.

The problem is Kraken already made a Plea deal with SEC, now they are hammering with another lawsuit that is why Kraken thought this will be a never-ending story with SEC so they decided to file a notion to dismiss their lawsuit.









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March 09, 2024, 12:32:06 AM
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1. Anything that SEC does against crypto like filing lawsuits, is good to the future of crypto. I mean in this case, Kraken has file back and so the companies are not going to sit back here. SEC's argument though, I think Kraken can go around that argument.

2. Very hard to say what's the chances of Kraken, but in any case it will be like 50/50 for them.

3. I'm not a user of Kraken though, no question that they are somewhat a top tier exchange. But for others who have been trading with Kraken, I don't think that they will be affected by this. In any case, Kraken will look solid in their eyes and maybe continue to trade with them.
Perhaps after losing the lawsuit with Ripple, the SEC has lost its scary appearance in the eyes of crypto projects. I hope that in the future, crypto projects will have enough determination and resources to fight against unreasonable accusations from the SEC.

Kraken will need a lot of emotional, legal and financial support to pursue this lawsuit. I hope Kraken will have more users, collect more transaction fees and receive support from other crypto companies like Coinbase and Ripple to be able to win against the SEC!

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