Restricted games on one casino but playable to other one

[SirJohnVonSlotty]

On follow up question to this, I notice that even some scam casino can add this game provider despite they are new and no licensed. And does casino license is required or not?

Rarely is it a solo casino owner who just decided to open up a scam casino, it's always an established operator that already has the whole infrastructure, and decided to open up a black label brand that can operate in a country where they can't operate with their white label brand. And since it's almost always an established operator, they have ways of masking that black label casino internally and still have all the providers that they have on the rest of their group of legit brands. So depending on the size of the operation, they can have a license per se, to get all the providers in, but there are ways on working around it if you truly want to be black.

I'm saying this because I know the guys at Evolution and they would never support a scam casino, but unfortunately the scam in this business is both-sided, and sometimes game providers can get scammed by the operator as well. From my experience the established game providers are the only ones that don't scam anyone, while everyone else always has some loop holes and I hate it.

Basically, no legit, award winning game provider has it in its interest to scam anyone, especially when the business formula is so bulletproof that you don't need more, you just stick to your RTP method and offer great games, the money will come.

What’s the typical cost for adding game provider like Evolution gaming, Pragmatic and others as set

I've already answered your question on the cost in another thread, basically there are onboarding fees, bonus fees and they take a chunk of your NGR (net gaming revenue) that has been associated with their games. It all depends on on how much traffic and how many players you have, if the volume is good, you can get extra discounts and deals.

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[bakasabo]

I see nothing much to discuss here. Different casinos have different rules and contracts with gambling operators. This is the same as being amazed why in one shop Coca-Cola cost 1 EUR, but in the other 99 cents. Have you checked where those casinos are registered or operate from? Just like with Coca-Cola example, in Europe we have it produced in Poland and in Italy. And people admit that even though ingredients must be identical, Coca-Cola has different tastes.

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I see nothing much to discuss here. Different casinos have different rules and contracts with gambling operators. This is the same as being amazed why in one shop Coca-Cola cost 1 EUR, but in the other 99 cents. Have you checked where those casinos are registered or operate from? Just like with Coca-Cola example, in Europe we have it produced in Poland and in Italy. And people admit that even though ingredients must be identical, Coca-Cola has different tastes.

It is even simple. He know casino site that allows people from his country to play a game that is not allowed in another casino. So why not just go to the casino that allows the game and gamble there without using VPN. I will not encourage the use of VPN because of this kind of thing. Also there are sometimes that the best is to message the customer care of the casino and let them tell him if it is good or not.

[danherbias07]

I was curious about this too since I saw many slot games that I cannot play due to restrictions.
But then, there are so many games to pick so I just shrug it off. Perhaps it's a country restriction. Like in Stake.com it could not be played by anyone but when it's Stake.us it can be played.
I don't really mind because I don't really like the games that were restricted. I was just surprised that it's listed there and yet it cannot be played.

Well here is what I found when I checked it out. Damn curiosity.

And more about it when you check this link. https://stake.com/policies/providers

I guess that answers our questions. Providers policy. I've seen my country on the blacklist so that might be the reason behind it. This will be a problem for those who are in love with a game made by one provider and then he will find out he cannot play it due to those restrictions. Well, there's always another way and that is to look for another gambling site. VPN using is prohibited so I won't suggest that.

[Assface16678]

I see nothing much to discuss here. Different casinos have different rules and contracts with gambling operators. This is the same as being amazed why in one shop Coca-Cola cost 1 EUR, but in the other 99 cents. Have you checked where those casinos are registered or operate from? Just like with Coca-Cola example, in Europe we have it produced in Poland and in Italy. And people admit that even though ingredients must be identical, Coca-Cola has different tastes.

It is even simple. He know casino site that allows people from his country to play a game that is not allowed in another casino. So why not just go to the casino that allows the game and gamble there without using VPN. I will not encourage the use of VPN because of this kind of thing. Also there are sometimes that the best is to message the customer care of the casino and let them tell him if it is good or not.

Well, there's nothing wrong with using a VPN. Just make sure that the VPN you are using is credible or legitimate and that it can be downloaded from an app store and licenced, because even though VPN is mostly accepted and legal in many casinos, if they detect that you are using a fake or suspicious VPN or third party, expect that you might be sanctioned or banned from that casino or website. 

And of course, read the rules and regulations of a casino website on to what extent they can allow you to use a VPN. Although it is legal to use a VPN, there are still restricted games or gambling that you can't play in your country's IP, so you should be more mindful and read those rules before using a third-party app. Rest assured that VPN is allowed because it will protect your device from malicious viruses or malware on the internet.

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I see nothing much to discuss here. Different casinos have different rules and contracts with gambling operators. This is the same as being amazed why in one shop Coca-Cola cost 1 EUR, but in the other 99 cents. Have you checked where those casinos are registered or operate from? Just like with Coca-Cola example, in Europe we have it produced in Poland and in Italy. And people admit that even though ingredients must be identical, Coca-Cola has different tastes.

Game providers have their own ToS with their games aside from the casino ToS. Casino ToS is for general rules for the casino while each game providers have their own set of restrictions. This is the reason why you can’t play some games on casino despite your country is not listed as restricted on the casino ToS.

This is the reason for confusion since same provider offers same game but has different set of rules on different casino. Game provider is different to the casino because they have their own set of ToS with their product.

I believe the real answer here due to the contract which the casino avails from the game provider. Some casino might avail license to operate on more countries that’s why they can offer games on countries which are supposed to be restricted on other casino.

[Gozie51]

I see nothing much to discuss here. Different casinos have different rules and contracts with gambling operators. This is the same as being amazed why in one shop Coca-Cola cost 1 EUR, but in the other 99 cents. Have you checked where those casinos are registered or operate from? Just like with Coca-Cola example, in Europe we have it produced in Poland and in Italy. And people admit that even though ingredients must be identical, Coca-Cola has different tastes.

It is even simple. He know casino site that allows people from his country to play a game that is not allowed in another casino. So why not just go to the casino that allows the game and gamble there without using VPN. I will not encourage the use of VPN because of this kind of thing. Also there are sometimes that the best is to message the customer care of the casino and let them tell him if it is good or not.

I also don't see any thing that makes a difference if Op can access the game from one end and it is not available in the other casino. This simply means the casinos signed a different terms of contract with the game providers and they also choose the game they want to be played for the public either based on what they feel as the house winning chances. So if a gambler bypasses their tos and use VPN, that is a violation and might get the player not to be able to withdraw if he has a winning.

It is better to keep to the casino's rules and regulations, they choose what they want and get it to be programmed there.

[AmoreJaz]

I see nothing much to discuss here. Different casinos have different rules and contracts with gambling operators. This is the same as being amazed why in one shop Coca-Cola cost 1 EUR, but in the other 99 cents. Have you checked where those casinos are registered or operate from? Just like with Coca-Cola example, in Europe we have it produced in Poland and in Italy. And people admit that even though ingredients must be identical, Coca-Cola has different tastes.

Game providers have their own ToS with their games aside from the casino ToS. Casino ToS is for general rules for the casino while each game providers have their own set of restrictions. This is the reason why you can’t play some games on casino despite your country is not listed as restricted on the casino ToS.

This is the reason for confusion since same provider offers same game but has different set of rules on different casino. Game provider is different to the casino because they have their own set of ToS with their product.

I believe the real answer here due to the contract which the casino avails from the game provider. Some casino might avail license to operate on more countries that’s why they can offer games on countries which are supposed to be restricted on other casino.

I believe people already answered the question here. Providers also applied their license where they can operate at. Hence, the list of countries may be totally different with the restricted countries listed in the casinos list. This is why even if you are not included in the prohibited list of the casino, you can't still play in some slots or games because the games have their own list of prohibited countries.
This is why it is important to check the ToS of the site, I've seen a lot of casinos here which have their prohibited list of countries per provider. Better do your due diligence before playing one of the games in the casino. Otherwise, it is all on you as casinos are already giving you the information you need.

[GxSTxV]

There are many possibilities about this matter, we can guess some of them and there might be a little risk playing a slot that is restricted in your region. What happened in your case playing a slot in a casino and restricted in another on means that the two casinos are operating with different licenses, it's something important for any casino to have a license in order to apply for slot providers such as pragmaticplay.

I have no idea about the consequences of playing a restricted slot in your region from an open casino, however the casino is responsible about that as long as they allowed it for players to bet and spend money there.

[Coin_trader]

I already updated the OP for the answer. I really discussing this issue and get an answer from someone who really work on casino operations. I learned a lot on how things work behind on casino games including how game provider decides on where they want to offer their games.

Although the discussion is just short but I hope everyone here read the top answer on the thread since it’s very valuable insights for those wondering why slot providers has different restrictions per casino.

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