[REQUEST] the wall observer thread should be pinned.

[hilariousandco]

It really doesn't need or deserved to be pinned. It's only the most popular because it's auto-posted in multiple times a day by ChartBuddy, and given that fact it's usually always at the top anyway.

[vapourminer]

The question one should ask is if this is done, although it's a suggestion from you, will it stop the somewhat wasteful spread of merits there?.

no

[JayJuanGee]

Probably some of us consider the WO thread as the troll box of the forum.. or the forum's main chat thread....and maybe some forum members don't know that?    Even though a newbie might get beaten up verbally if joining the WO thread as a beginner, no one can really stop anyone from posting there about any topic, even though you will likely get beaten up if you try to pump shitcoins in that thread...

I think someone who would consider you a troll or having to participate in any troll box should try matching your quality or bringing much insights as I see you do in several arguments the much I’ve had to read from you anyways. You often come with volume and postulates that speaks facts with logical conclusion to each statement.

There used to be some exchanges that has a "troll box" in which members could live chat, such as BTC-e, and so I mostly was labelling the WO thread as a "troll box" in that kind of a sentiment... just to say the thread could be considered as a place where almost anything goes, except active members in that thread do not tend to be very tolerant of pumping shitcoins in that thread, but if you participate in the thread for a while, there will be deviations into topics (that are not really directly related to bitcoin price tracking) that might go on for days and days or even weeks or months..

I personally tend to prefer to stay mostly on topic of the thread, but I am not innocent of my own sometimes deviations from the thread topic.. and maybe even exaggerating a bit more than necessary.. especially in that thread.... and yeah, sometimes current events might ONLY be tangentially related to bitcoin price movements, yet they can also sometimes end up having some relation to bitcoin's price movements, since nearly everything is likely somehow related to bitcoin in one way or another... even as a bit of a stretch, shitcoins.. hahahahahaha

The question one should ask is if this is done, although it's a suggestion from you, will it stop the somewhat wasteful spread of merits there?.

no

I was going to say something.. but then I decided to restrain my lil selfie.. .... but you make a very deep and profound point, vapourminer. #justsaying

[philipma1957]

The question one should ask is if this is done, although it's a suggestion from you, will it stop the somewhat wasteful spread of merits there?.

no

merits can be spent anywhere which is why I gave you 3 and gave the milfster 4

[Majestic-milf]

merits can be spent anywhere which is why I gave you 3 and gave the milfster 4

I know that merits can be spent anywhere as it pleases the giver but it's kinda concerning the way it's being spread in WO thread. Although I can't find the particular thread, I think a user complained of how merits were thrown around even to posts that weren't deserving in that thread so for me it's pointless pinning it when all these( constant updating by Chartbuddy, excessive merit gifting) make it stand out already.

Well since you've pointed out the obvious, I'd rest my case.

[JayJuanGee]

merits can be spent anywhere which is why I gave you 3 and gave the milfster 4

I know that merits can be spent anywhere as it pleases the giver but it's kinda concerning the way it's being spread in WO thread. Although I can't find the particular thread, I think a user complained of how merits were thrown around even to posts that weren't deserving in that thread so for me it's pointless pinning it when all these( constant updating by Chartbuddy, excessive merit gifting) make it stand out already.

Well since you've pointed out the obvious, I'd rest my case.

You are probably referring to one or the other of the below two related threads, which should largely help you to figure out for yourself that the mere fact that something is alleged (dramatized and/or whined about) does not cause it to have merit.....

....but hey, whatever, you are free to believe whatever you like.

Request: Disable merits in the Wall Observer thread

Request: Disable JayJuanGee in the Wall Observer thread

[MainIbem]

will it stop the somewhat wasteful spread of merits there?.

Pinned or no pinned merits can't stop flowing there because merits can be given anywhere any place, so pinning doesn't mean that WO will gain more attention because already it's a mega thread with lots of attention given from reputation members here. A lot of people love posting over there because they always get the latest information concerning bitcoin price and so on, somehow if you looked at wo you would see that it gains almost 2 to 3 pages per day and that's show is active thread.

[Mia Chloe]

It seems a lot of persons here don't support the idea of pinning based of nice reasons they have mentioned.
The Fact is a topic of that mass must definitely have some off topic discussions and posts but that doesn't make the thread ineligible for merit distribution. Even at that if you look closely you will definitely still find a couple of posts worth meriting.
However though a lot of users have made their points, my reason for the creation of this thread was simply based on the reputation of the Wall observer thread here on Bitcoin talk and not because of merits so let's try to keep the discussions on point with the topic.

[philipma1957]

merits can be spent anywhere which is why I gave you 3 and gave the milfster 4

I know that merits can be spent anywhere as it pleases the giver but it's kinda concerning the way it's being spread in WO thread. Although I can't find the particular thread, I think a user complained of how merits were thrown around even to posts that weren't deserving in that thread so for me it's pointless pinning it when all these( constant updating by Chartbuddy, excessive merit gifting) make it stand out already.

Well since you've pointed out the obvious, I'd rest my case.

You are probably referring to one or the other of the below two related threads, which should largely help you to figure out for yourself that the mere fact that something is alleged (dramatized and/or whined about) does not cause it to have merit.....

....but hey, whatever, you are free to believe whatever you like.

Request: Disable merits in the Wall Observer thread

Request: Disable JayJuanGee in the Wall Observer thread

nice job JJG 10,000 merits look good on you

did not forget you mia you now have 410

[criptoevangelista]

merits can be spent anywhere which is why I gave you 3 and gave the milfster 4

I know that merits can be spent anywhere as it pleases the giver but it's kinda concerning the way it's being spread in WO thread. Although I can't find the particular thread, I think a user complained of how merits were thrown around even to posts that weren't deserving in that thread so for me it's pointless pinning it when all these( constant updating by Chartbuddy, excessive merit gifting) make it stand out already.

Well since you've pointed out the obvious, I'd rest my case.

You are probably referring to one or the other of the below two related threads, which should largely help you to figure out for yourself that the mere fact that something is alleged (dramatized and/or whined about) does not cause it to have merit.....

....but hey, whatever, you are free to believe whatever you like.

Request: Disable merits in the Wall Observer thread

Request: Disable JayJuanGee in the Wall Observer thread

nice job JJG 10,000 merits look good on you

did not forget you mia you now have 410

10001 now, to celebrate 10000 

but I saved your screen as a souvenir.

Request: Disable merits in the Wall Observer thread

Request: Disable JayJuanGee in the Wall Observer thread

I don't know what people like to complain about the wall, it's one of the coolest places to stay. The little time I spend there is very interesting mainly because of the knowledge that can be acquired.

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

nice job JJG 10,000 merits look good on you

did not forget you mia you now have 410

Thanks for the boost.

[edited out]

10001 now, to celebrate 10000 

but I saved your screen as a souvenir.

Almost like a birthday party.  Thanks.

[Sexylizzy2813]

The way you people go about that thread is like anybody who post there will definitely get merit, it only takes those recognized members to give and get merit over there. That place is for those who matters (like I said before) and pinning it is like stopping the fun of the bigger boys and they can't help but do their thing over there. Let's say getting that thread to be pinned is successful don't you think that they can open another thread and maybe name if WO_Version1.2 and it will stand so whatever goes on there stays there and you can't  kill the fun elders of the Forum are having, after all they're not violating any of the rules, the merit is theirs to give out to whoever.

[shahzadafzal]

It really doesn't need or deserved to be pinned. It's only the most popular because it's auto-posted in multiple times a day by ChartBuddy, and given that fact it's usually always at the top anyway.

Seriously, bro? I bet even if ChartBuddy is disabled, there are actual real users who are keeping it alive and pinned to the top.

To name few philipma1957, JayJuanGee, El duderino_

[Sim_card]

The WO thread is an outstanding one, so there is no need for it to be pinned, because that is where the old Gs in bitcoin investment do use to encourage themselves to keep on hodli, and to have fun that they are proud to be long term hodlers.

will it stop the somewhat wasteful spread of merits there?.

I don't think there is any wasteful spread of merit, because the receiver will appreciate it, and merits add value to a user's account.
Where else do you expect those users that the WO thread is only their area of interest here in the forum to give out their Smerits. This is why merit flow is inevitable on the thread. No matter how shitty a thread is, as long as high reputable, and high knowledgeable members comments on it, some comments will be educative.

[Mia Chloe]

nice job JJG 10,000 merits look good on you

Congratulations JayJuanGee you are now officially a member with the five digit merit count. I guess I will definitely wait for Your next milestone hmmm I'm probably guessing a binary combo of 11111.

did not forget you mia you now have 410

Thanks for the shoot phil 

The way you people go about that thread is like anybody who post there will definitely get merit, it only takes those recognized members to give and get merit over there. That place is for those who matters (like I said before) and pinning it is like stopping the fun of the bigger boys and they can't help but do their thing over there. Let's say getting that thread to be pinned is successful don't you think that they can open another thread and maybe name if WO_Version1.2 and it will stand so whatever goes on there stays there and you can't  kill the fun elders of the Forum are having, after all they're not violating any of the rules, the merit is theirs to give out to whoever.

This was my point exactly in my first reply. For a user to send merits, he definitely must have earned some so he has the right to send it in what ever way as long as he is no breaking any rule like account farming. Except of course you are a merit source and besides most merit sources are nice contributors with nice merit history. I've visited the Wall observer thread a couple of times I I noticed it's not a merit spree thread like most people emphasize it is. However everyone is free to their opinions plus everyone has a different standard to determining a merit worthy post.

My main point like I said before is the Wall observer is such an epic thread on this forum that it deserves to be pinned even if it usually appears at the top.

[philipma1957]

The way you people go about that thread is like anybody who post there will definitely get merit, it only takes those recognized members to give and get merit over there. That place is for those who matters (like I said before) and pinning it is like stopping the fun of the bigger boys and they can't help but do their thing over there. Let's say getting that thread to be pinned is successful don't you think that they can open another thread and maybe name if WO_Version1.2 and it will stand so whatever goes on there stays there and you can't  kill the fun elders of the Forum are having, after all they're not violating any of the rules, the merit is theirs to give out to whoever.

you are correct. and that was worth some merits

[criptoevangelista]

The WO thread is an outstanding one, so there is no need for it to be pinned, because that is where the old Gs in bitcoin investment do use to encourage themselves to keep on hodli, and to have fun that they are proud to be long term hodlers.

will it stop the somewhat wasteful spread of merits there?.

I don't think there is any wasteful spread of merit, because the receiver will appreciate it, and merits add value to a user's account.
Where else do you expect those users that the WO thread is only their area of interest here in the forum to give out their Smerits. This is why merit flow is inevitable on the thread. No matter how shitty a thread is, as long as high reputable, and high knowledgeable members comments on it, some comments will be educative.

As long as people put merit as a priority instead of making friends, meeting people and participating in the forum, we will always have threads of people complaining about WO and merits here...

Anyway, there will always be someone to complain instead of using that energy and time to interact with people in a genuine way.

[Sexylizzy2813]

The way you people go about that thread is like anybody who post there will definitely get merit, it only takes those recognized members to give and get merit over there. That place is for those who matters (like I said before) and pinning it is like stopping the fun of the bigger boys and they can't help but do their thing over there. Let's say getting that thread to be pinned is successful don't you think that they can open another thread and maybe name if WO_Version1.2 and it will stand so whatever goes on there stays there and you can't  kill the fun elders of the Forum are having, after all they're not violating any of the rules, the merit is theirs to give out to whoever.

This was my point exactly in my first reply. For a user to send merits, he definitely must have earned some so he has the right to send it in what ever way as long as he is no breaking any rule like account farming. Except of course you are a merit source and besides most merit sources are nice contributors with nice merit history. I've visited the Wall observer thread a couple of times I I noticed it's not a merit spree thread like most people emphasize it is. However everyone is free to their opinions plus everyone has a different standard to determining a merit worthy post.

These account farmers that distribute merits to there other accounts are the major reason why whenever merit is been given to a member (like 50) some investigation do go on and in the past many have been caught doing so even up till now.
Is hard to fish out those who break the rules and I some how get why some users are saying that the WO thread should be pinned, if that thread was opened by a newbie I believe some actions would have been taken, so let's forget about how things are been done over there, the merit is not something we can take home.
You can't bring merit source into this, because I wouldn't want to get a news about a merit source misusing his or her power (if you know what I mean), shit happens. To me, I think some members feel cheated (I get that feeling too when I first started) when they don't get merit in that thread (WO), they have this feeling that if they post like the other members that merit would fall upon them, no, it doesn't work that way, I'd say we should be consistent in posting things that catches the eyes, with that merit will flow.

My main point like I said before is the Wall observer is such an epic thread on this forum that it deserves to be pinned even if it usually appears at the top.

Which means you want it to come to an end if so, I really don't see anything big about the WO thread, I just see it as a place of relaxation, like you have to feel free when you're their.
What might happen is they should delete the old post so that it would start counting from page 1 again like refreshing it, not to pin it.

[Majestic-milf]

You are probably referring to one or the other of the below two related threads, which should largely help you to figure out for yourself that the mere fact that something is alleged (dramatized and/or whined about) does not cause it to have merit.....

....but hey, whatever, you are free to believe whatever you like.

Request: Disable merits in the Wall Observer thread

Request: Disable JayJuanGee in the Wall Observer thread

Uh, shuck! I didn't mean "wasteful spread of merits" in the way you see it now. I was actually concerned about how that place is a beehive for account farmers and also merit farmers since they see that place as an easy access to boosting their accounts, all they just need to do is give their two cents about Bitcoin price. Like Phillipma pointed out, gifting merits is based on individual choice but I feel some people take advantage of this and exploit it.

What @nutildah raised as a concern in that link may be something to actually take into consideration but probably he didn't go about it the right way, which made it look like he was biased.

[JayJuanGee]

It really doesn't need or deserved to be pinned. It's only the most popular because it's auto-posted in multiple times a day by ChartBuddy, and given that fact it's usually always at the top anyway.

Seriously, bro? I bet even if ChartBuddy is disabled, there are actual real users who are keeping it alive and pinned to the top.
To name few philipma1957, JayJuanGee, El duderino_

Hahahahaha..

Funny you say that.  Chartbuddy was gone from the thread for more than 3 years between about 2017-ish and 2020-ish, and there was a time (right around early 2017) in which Theymos had closed down the thread, and such shut down lasted for a couple of weeks with quite a few upset forum members, and we had to vote for a new thread owner in order to reactivate the thread, and that was when theymos removed the ability to auto-show signatures in that thread.

When I first came to the forum, I rarely posted outside of the WO thread, and so my first post on the forum was on page 5,151 of the WO thread - yet in recent times (especially since 2018), I have come into practice of venturing into other parts of the forum and outside of that thread.

Is hard to fish out those who break the rules and I some how get why some users are saying that the WO thread should be pinned, if that thread was opened by a newbie I believe some actions would have been taken, so let's forget about how things are been done over there, the merit is not something we can take home.

The culture of the WO thread had evolved over time, and more or less, various members of the forum petitioned theymos to reopen the thread because the culture of the WO thread was something that several of the members wanted to keep, and theymos agreed to such retention of the thread - after several of us voted for a new thread owner - and largely the member who won the vote had pledged to leave the thread as it had been with little to no intervention... which likely contributed to his winning the vote of the them interested (or those who voted in that vision) members.

You are probably referring to one or the other of the below two related threads, which should largely help you to figure out for yourself that the mere fact that something is alleged (dramatized and/or whined about) does not cause it to have merit.....

....but hey, whatever, you are free to believe whatever you like.
Request: Disable merits in the Wall Observer thread

Request: Disable JayJuanGee in the Wall Observer thread

Uh, shuck! I didn't mean "wasteful spread of merits" in the way you see it now. I was actually concerned about how that place is a beehive for account farmers and also merit farmers since they see that place as an easy access to boosting their accounts, all they just need to do is give their two cents about Bitcoin price.

Those were pretty much the same accusations that were attempting to be emphasized in the two threads that I pointed out (linked above), and members do not necessarily agree about the way to resolve merit and/or account farmers or even agree to the extent that there is a problem that should be resolved by curbing the ability to send smerits within the WO thread... as seemed to had been proposed through those two threads.. and of course, several times, I posted in each of those two threads to disagree with the propositions and/or the making of jokes about such propositions (if that might have been a subliminal intention of one of the threads).

Like Phillipma pointed out, gifting merits is based on individual choice but I feel some people take advantage of this and exploit it.

So?

What @nutildah raised as a concern in that link may be something to actually take into consideration but probably he didn't go about it the right way, which made it look like he was biased.

He is biased.  He is a little whining cunt, at least on that topic.

hahahhaha

Although, from time to time, nutildah does make some good points about various forum matters or even some bitcoin-related matters, and even seeming to point out some members who came to the forum with bad intentions (pointing out scammers) - yet he was not correct in that particular attempt to impose smerit sending values under some supposed objective smerit sending standards that he seemed to be wanting to impose. .and proposing either restrictions on the WO thread in that direction or to get members to self-police in the ways that he (nutildah) thought would have had been better for the forum blah blah blah...

And, yeah, he has a right to raise those kinds of issues and concerns and to attempt to persuade forum members to vote on the topic that he presented, which he did those things.