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Author Topic: Should speculation about satoshi's identity be subject to doxxing rules?  (Read 1007 times)
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March 23, 2024, 07:29:43 PM
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Well whether one or two or three smart people invented Btc or it was put in place to end the usd down the road does not matter. We all can see the usd system is failing since nixon end the gold standard and the world trade center in 2001 the usd system appears set to be replaced.

Whether it will be btc or ltc/doge it does look like it will be a crypto pow coin.

Should be fun to see it all happen.  As for satoshi if it is a single guy/girl or a team of people does not matter much. Glad to have seen it happen.

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March 24, 2024, 04:03:46 AM
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"I've been trying to breach someone's privacy against their wishes for 14 years, but haven't been successful yet, so it's okay to keep trying"

"I've been shining lasers at passing aircraft for 14 years and none of them have crashed yet, so it can't be as dangerous as they claim"

"I've been drink driving for 14 years and no one has died yet, pour me another one"

Well, no, you raise false analogies to justify what you previously believe. The first one is totally false because you don't know about Satoshi's wishes. Maybe he is laughing all this time at everyone who is trying to find out who he is like "keep trying, come on!.

And the other examples involving activities with a high risk of murder, the first one of mass murder, are clearly false analogies.

You started the thread with a false analogy and I already responded to you:

And I suppose we can also fire guns in the general direction of people as long as we don't actually hit them?  No, pretty sure it doesn't work like that.

I just don't buy your analogy. The correct analogy is people shooting in the desert where there is no one and after 14 years you come to tell us that there is a danger of someone getting killed.

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March 24, 2024, 11:04:05 AM
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Theymos did the right thing by with-holding sensitive IP information & PMs that people may have abused for the sake of harassing satoshi (or some other poor soul who's not satoshi).
How exactly would people have access to Satoshi's forum IP addresses and PMs? Huh (btw, Satoshi used Tor to hide his IP address, so it's not like an IP reveal would do much...)
Judging by the update Theymos had given a few years ago about data removing, any IP and such things of the forum are automatically removed which is older than 3 or 6 months. I can not remember the exact duration, sorry.

Glad to have seen it happen.
Best part is, you, me and others are a part of the change that has started. We don't need to learn it from a historian because we are part of the history.

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March 25, 2024, 04:47:14 PM
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I feel like there's a prevalent double standard when it comes to protecting identities of forum users.  

If topics existed where lots of users were posting theories and collecting evidence in an attempt to unveil the real-world identity of another forum user, I don't think such threads would be tolerated.  As per the rules, doxxing is only permitted in the case of legitimate scam accusations:

here are some new rules on doxxing:

1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity

So why do we allow rampant probing and scrutiny regarding the identity of satoshi?  I don't see any justification for them to be an exception to the rule.  There's no way people would accept it if it were their own account subject to such investigations.  If someone did ever successfully identify satoshi and published it here on the forum, then they would have clearly violated the rule.  Ergo, users are attempting to break the rules every time they publicly try to link:
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a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity
This should not be happening.  There are inherent dangers in revealing someone's identity, particularly if they are considered wealthy.  The user in question, or even their family, could be at risk of falling victim to burglary, kidnapping, torture or other crimes (and I'm certain there are few potential targets more tempting for criminals than someone as flush with BTC as satoshi is perceived to be).  There are very good reasons why attempting to dox someone is frowned upon.  

I propose it's time for this rule to be applied properly, to end the double standard and to ensure no one is attempting to dox anyone else when there is no valid complaint of a scam.
You made a massive curveball of a topic and in retrospect, it makes total sense. At the end of the day, Satoshi Nakamoto is a bitcointalk user, and is thus inclusive of all the rules and regulations that are imposed upon this forum and its users, including the right to his private information and the right to not reveal it.

I am one of those people who are so against the revelation of Satoshi Nakamoto's identity and all that shit, but only because I think people are investing all their efforts in a fruitless labor. When they could've been investing those talents and the progresses they have made to further bitcoin's reach and extent. To me it's enough that Satoshi is the creator, he didn't have to reveal who he is or how he's doing since that would take away from what bitcoin is supposed to be, a secure, anonymous, end to end payment system. Magnifying this rule against Satoshi's invasion of privacy could actually smother the attempts of users here who can't make good posts to speculate upon his identity and whereabouts, since if possible this could mean that the mods could block or delete posts alluding to this topic.

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