Can we still truly achieve anonymous gambling in crypto?

[freedomgo]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

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[Oshosondy]

Some people do not like fiat casino because of slow withdrawal time. It is fast on local casinos but slow on foreign casinos. Just like bet365, it takes almost or more than 2 weeks for their wire transfer and my country have only that option in it to withdraw.  Because of this, I prefer the crypto casinos which process my transaction in just few minutes.

Some crypto casinos do not require KYC for low transactions and also there are web3 casinos that requires no KYC but I have not bet on web3 casinos before.

[Beparanf]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Anonymous gambling can only be achieved on using real decentralized casino that offers only on-chain games because most of the casino that offers 3rd party games already have licensed to operate and asked KYC.

I believe the future of crypto casino is becoming less anonymous since crypto itself is already regulated through the government. It can be considered as positive already for me because casino doesn’t easily exit scam nowadays due to their license unlike before during the early days of crypto casino that many scam casino that run immediately right after someone hit a huge win.

[Sanitough]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Anonymous gambling can only be achieved on using real decentralized casino that offers only on-chain games because most of the casino that offers 3rd party games already have licensed to operate and asked KYC.

I believe the future of crypto casino is becoming less anonymous since crypto itself is already regulated through the government. It can be considered as positive already for me because casino doesn’t easily exit scam nowadays due to their license unlike before during the early days of crypto casino that many scam casino that run immediately right after someone hit a huge win.

We have to accept the reality, our expectation is not happening anymore as crypto is regulated, therefore casinos that are using crypto should also be regulated. The only difference or advantage of a crypto casino is it has a lot of options, before it was only bitcoin but now they have added altcoins which makes it easy for us to choose among the many altcoins and we can save on the fees.

Just stop thinking that we can still achieve anonymous gambling as it will not happen, unless there's a popular decentralized casino that will boom in the future, but as of this writing, I haven't found one yet.

[Alphakilo]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

With most casino online enforcing the AML regulation there's no anonymity again with crypto gambling website. It is no different from fiat casino. The only difference is the payment option and which is an advantage against Fiat. In the future is the structure of payment is improved or if there is an innovative solution around fiat payment that allows for it to be received faster and at anytime no matter the day of the week, then it will.be able to catch up crypto casinos otherwise the distinction between the two will remain.

[Fiatless]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

It is becoming difficult to see casinos that promote anonymity because most of them have to comply with the provisions of the license they are operating on. Jurisdiction laws are also forcing these casinos to ditch privacy because these nations make KYC mandatory. These stringent policies are due to the belief that casinos are being used for money laundering and other illegal activities. Gamblers are now more comfortable with casinos with licenses because they believe they will operate truly and fairly. But we fail to understand that this license is a two-edged sword because it will definitely require KYC from gamblers in some cases.

With these strict KYC procedures in crypto casinos, the only difference between a crypto-based casino and fiat casinos is just the currency that is used. As much as gamblers keep emphasizing crypto casino licences, there will continue to be an increase in KYC requirements.

[Natsuu]

As crypto casinos mature, they're starting to resemble fiat casinos more closely. While anonymity was once a big draw, there's now a push for legitimacy and regulation. Still crypto casinos have perks like faster transactions and lower fees plus they offer gambling access to people in places with strict rules or banking limitations. It's a balancing act between regulation and innovation and both crypto and fiat casinos are evolving to meet changing demands and preferences

[Beparanf]

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We have to accept the reality, our expectation is not happening anymore as crypto is regulated, therefore casinos that are using crypto should also be regulated. The only difference or advantage of a crypto casino is it has a lot of options, before it was only bitcoin but now they have added altcoins which makes it easy for us to choose among the many altcoins and we can save on the fees.

Just stop thinking that we can still achieve anonymous gambling as it will not happen, unless there's a popular decentralized casino that will boom in the future, but as of this writing, I haven't found one yet.

I accepted this fate long time ago because I view this as innovation instead of hindrance because I can play on a casino in long term without the fear of them running away with my money which happened frequently in the past way back when casino offers only house games and doesn’t have license.

Right now, The only danger of providing KYC is there’s no guarantee that casino can protect our credentials 100% against exploit. I have no problem providing KYC if there’s an assurance of safety on our data which casino nowadays is still not con that level that they can give us 100% protection from exploit because even themselves still getting exploited with tons of funds due to security breach.

[Plaguedeath]

Yes, if.... the casino is open source, have onion address and support Monero.

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous "

Crypto was never been decentralized and anonymous, except Monero. Bitcoin itself isn't even anonymous, but pseudonymous.

Right now, The only danger of providing KYC is there’s no guarantee that casino can protect our credentials 100% against exploit. I have no problem providing KYC if there’s an assurance of safety on our data which casino nowadays is still not con that level that they can give us 100% protection from exploit because even themselves still getting exploited with tons of funds due to security breach.

You're hoping to big, right now... even the biggest centralized exchange i.e. Binance wasn't able to give assurance and security protection. If centralized exchange didn't get forced to protect user data and security protection, crypto casino wouldn't get forced too.

[rdbase]

Yes, if.... the casino is open source, have onion address and support Monero.

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous "

Crypto was never been decentralized and anonymous, except Monero. Bitcoin itself isn't even anonymous, but pseudonymous.

Right now, The only danger of providing KYC is there’s no guarantee that casino can protect our credentials 100% against exploit. I have no problem providing KYC if there’s an assurance of safety on our data which casino nowadays is still not con that level that they can give us 100% protection from exploit because even themselves still getting exploited with tons of funds due to security breach.

You're hoping to big, right now... even the biggest centralized exchange i.e. Binance wasn't able to give assurance and security protection. If centralized exchange didn't get forced to protect user data and security protection, crypto casino wouldn't get forced too.

Can a casino platform ever be open source? Believe I have seen templates used and they just change the name of the site and they are off & running and business begins coming in.
Monero had something happen to it a couple of months ago. Something to do with the developers. It caused the value to drop suddenly for the altcoin.
So not too certain a developing casino would want to support a coin if it starts to show any sort of problems to do with it's development team.

[Yatsan]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Maybe it has something to do with how we would define anonymity. For sure this concerns KYC procedures but if we would look at it, informations are still safe from public and this has been long answered, which is to avoid money laundering and to avoid players under legal age to play. I do get why many gamblers are worried because of the risk that their information might be used with unwanted activities. But to think of it in a more in depth point of view, we have complied in many instances with online payments which I think is the same. Also, from being in this industry for years, I never have experienced any of our worries. Maybe it still depends on the platform we are engaging ourselves with. If you worry that much, there are still decentralized platforms as option. Or simply engage to trusted or reputable platforms only to somehow lessen the risk; they won't have such title for nothing right?

[freedomgo]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous "

Crypto was never been decentralized and anonymous, except Monero. Bitcoin itself isn't even anonymous, but pseudonymous.

I guess that's the right word, but with KYC, we don't enjoy that being pseudonymous anymore. Exchanges are regulated, the same with casino.

No doubt, anonymity remains a key feature of many crypto transactions, including gambling. However, regulatory pressures and increasing scrutiny have led some crypto casinos to implement Know Your Customer (KYC) procedures similar to traditional fiat casinos. This move towards compliance with regulatory standards is aimed at enhancing transparency, preventing fraud, and ensuring a safe gaming environment for all gamblers.

That's been the purpose of regulation, but during the early stage, we don't realize that because we can afford to lose anyway since we don't gamble a lot of money. I mean, we can risk our money for the sake of getting anonymous while enjoying a fast and cheap transactions, better than FIAT casinos.

As the crypto market grows bigger, regulations are also increasing so it has become inevitable anymore and we have no choice but to follow, or play with a decentralized casino that are not popular and safe.

This shouldn’t be surprising because society is dynamic and so there is always a need to adapt to changing market dynamics. The trajectory of crypto gambling suggests a gradual alignment with regulatory frameworks to meet industry standards and address concerns around legality and player protection. While the allure of anonymity initially drew many to crypto casinos, the shifting landscape indicates a move towards greater transparency and accountability.

Transparency, that's the thing, but it's good if our regulators or the government are not corrupt... We promote decentralization because it was safe from the prying eyes of the regulators but it just didn't work that way as in the end they still win the battle and they still are in control.

During the early stage, we were so optimistic that bitcoin will replace fiat, but we are just being delusional becasue despite the popularity of bitcoin, it is still not capable of replacing fiat which is created by the government that regulates crypto.

[coin-investor]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

Crypto casinos have become a huge industry that the regulators need to regulate to avoid being used as a money laundering channel for scammers and hackers, the Crypto casinos need to establish legality in running their business for fear of being taken down and their platform from being blocked from access of their players.
There are Crypto casinos that are contract-based where anonymity is fully preserved there are risks involved in this platform but if you're comfortably playing here and do not want KYC it is your choice to use this kind of platform

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casinos different from fiat casinos?

It's still different because the transactions are traceable and instant, and not everyone is being requested to do a KYC by some casinos, we are heading in the right direction, the Cryptocasino industry is growing because of the massive shift of fiat-based casino to accepting Cryptocurrency.

[mu_enrico]

It's impossible to achieve 'true anonymity' in anything, but I'm pretty sure this discussion isn't about that.

The problem lies in the fact that on-chain games or provably fair games on crypto (no-KYC) casinos can't compete with major gaming developers such as Pragmatic, Evolution, Play'n GO, etc. These developers excel at creating high-quality games. Meanwhile, on-chain games/provably fair games are often developed by indie developers who have limited resources and expertise in creating compelling games. Consequently, they struggle to compete solely based on ideology. When faced with a market comprising people who insist on anonymity and those who simply seek good games, casinos tend to prioritize the latter due to the significantly larger potential revenue.

[Hispo]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

It is one of the characteristics of this industry which many saw coming, with the development of more regulations and the crack down on money laundering.
At this stage of the industry, I sadly believe we have reached a point where it is very difficult for anyone of us to participate in a truly anonymous way in Bitcoin gambling without having to submit our personal documents to the casino and thrus to the authorities (in the case of big casinos and sport books).
However, because of the nature of Bitcoin as a digital and decentralized asset, there will be options of smaller casinos or gambling bots supported in applications like Telegram which would allow us to gamble anonymously, but with the disadvantages of a lack of volume and liquidity (compared the big KYC casinos). 

It is possible to gamble anonymously, but I would only recommend to do so to those who have a very good reason to hide their gambling habits, it would not be worth it to expose oneself to the chance of being scammed if there is no a good reason for it. 😔🥲

[uneng]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

We are heading towards centralization more and more each new day in crypto universe. I guess it's inevitable, since we live in countries ruled by centralized governments through regulations which we are forced to follow in order to not be punished by local authorities. These regulators have the final word, and unfortunatelly there is nothing citizens can do, besides finding gaps on such regulations, which are getting less and less, as regulations advance, cornering crypto enthusiasts on every niches of the industry.

However, you can still gamble anonymously, if you play at casinos which don't enforce KYC process. There are few of them, but it's still possible, anyway. I don't know for how long they are going to be disponible yet, so enjoy this category of casino while you can! I believe in the future crypto developers will find alternative ways to avoid regulations over the industry, including the requirement of revealing identity, so in every cases there is still hope anonymity will remain a possibility for the enthusiasts of privacy.

[cabron]

Just staying under the limited amount of money inside the casinos, I think will still make you anonymous. They will still not ask for KYC if you stay under the limit. I have not submitted documents to all casinos I have been and that's because I only deposited under $500. And that is also because I don't have much.

Its your wallet however is not anonymous especially when you deposit an amount of BTC inside the exchanges where you submit documents. If the government tracks you through the exchange you signed up, I guess they can see.

[acroman08]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading?

Sadly it seems like we are heading towards where remaining anonymous while gambling is impossible. today, it is almost impossible to remain anonymous when gambling, with the KYC being normalize in the crypto casino industry day by day, trying to remain anonymous while gambling is almost impossible especially if you are an active gambler constantly withdrawing from a casino or have won a sizable amount of money.

[Quidat]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

One of the main reasons on why crypto gambling did become that popular because of that anonymous and decentralized thing but we cant really be able to deny that there are
tons of those sites or platforms had becomes scams or doing up those shitty move and scamming out those users and this is why you cant really be able to blame out the community for them to find with those platforms or companies on which they do have that kind of licenses on which this is some sort of security but actually its not but we cant deny that this is one of the main things
on where people are now really that looking for this kind of criteria for them to trust on, although its not an assurance but at least they've been wary about those legalities at least
and its something that we cant deny that these changes are really that happening.

[Sim_card]

Third-party casinos are the only option that we have now, because one can rely on them as they have their license from the government and they are regulated. The world has moved into a new Era which is technology and crypto is the lastest currency on board. This is why most people got attracted by the crypto casinos, because withdrawal is fast. People nowadays might not trust a no KYC casino to withdraw funds when they win big, because it might end up that they would not pay you. Even in a centralized crypto casino, when you win big, you must provide them with KYC. KYC is important, if you must gamble and gamblers have known this, and they are cool with it. As long as they can gamble with cryptocurrency and win big without withdrawal issues. The government owns the country so you must abide to their terms and conditions to get your casino approved by them.

[Sunderland]

No, because every legal crypto casino will require every player to carry out KYC and that is mandatory based on the laws and regulations where the casino license is issued.
But in reality, there are still many casinos that only ask for KYC if it is only necessary because they know that if they apply the strict KYC rules - their customers might move to another casino that is not so strict with its KYC rules.
Also many people suggest to play at decentralized casinos if we want to protect our identity, but in reality any decentralized casinos can still request KYC if necessary, its not 100% anonymous.

[BIT-BENDER]

Yes we still have gambling sites that supports anonymity. But it depends on what you define as anonymity. I won't go for a gambling site that would require me to have my passport, drivers licence, or any personal identity card before I can be registered, that would be too much information for just KYC.

But I don't mind if you require my email or phone number that to me is not bad provided that the site would protect any information of mine that I would provide to them. I believe we should be careful how we give out some sensitive information of ours to gambling sites, amongst the reasons I choose gambling sites that supports crypto-currency was to reduce my information being out their as much as possible.

[bitbollo]

Ah directbet, yes this was the gold standard for crypto gamblers
Nowadays, true anonymous crypto gambling can exist but only on certain major events or at least with adapted odds also edging with other bookmakers.

I believe it is almost impossible to manage the risk of a rigged match in a market with little liquidity/minor event.
Either a large bookmaker emerges capable of managing such large operations/risks or you have to turn to providers who offer p2p betting or odds exchange.

[piebeyb]

It seems difficult and I think crypto is also not anonymous at the moment so in my opinion there is actually no difference now between crypto casinos and fiat casinos, I also actually don't really like casinos that have a license let alone require users to send their identity to make a withdrawal, that's clear Very detrimental to privacy, but this is where it comes back to the views of each average gambler. I admit that many gamblers prefer casinos that are not anonymous. But even if there is an anonymous site, it certainly won't operate for long because of course there will be demands from the local government.

I actually also want to play on anonymous sites where maybe I can gamble, make deposits and withdrawals without having to send my identity just to do it, but the fact is that circumstances force us to now where there may not be many crypto casinos that are active enough for long now. Well, I've never tried playing there either, but if a lot of gamblers play and switch there, I might try it, if we're talking about anonymous crypto casinos we should also see that crypto isn't anonymous now either.  

[aioc]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The current model is doing great and well accepted by the gambling community, it protects both the platform and the players, we may not be anonymous in gambling totally because the regulators ask for compliance for the Cryptocurrency casino to smoothly run their platform, so why fix it if it's not broken?

There are still contract-based gambling platforms that are worth exploring if you value your privacy when gambling, but they are not popular compared to the accepted platforms so you will to research the safety of playing on these platforms.

[Awaklara]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

What you said worries many real gamblers. However, the shift that occurred was due to casino abuse which resulted in casinos with certain standards having to follow regulations to continue to grow and survive in the industry.
Likewise, gamblers who were previously comfortable with the anonymity of crypto casinos finally had to be forced to carry out KYC verification to be able to play at trusted casinos.
We cannot view this shift as something that is the same between crypto casinos and fiat casinos. Some gamblers have their views on why they choose crypto casinos over fiat casinos apart from their obligation to carry out KYC.

[traderethereum]

Nowadays, it is difficult to find a casino that still allows gamblers not to have to do KYC. But if our goal in gambling is just to have fun, it looks like we can still get that.
By depositing a small amount of money, we can gamble and don't need to do KYC. But when we get a win, whether it's a big win or a small win, at that time the casino will ask us to do KYC.
Crypto casinos are still different from fiat casinos with all their advantages and disadvantages. But we also have to follow the regulations made by the casino because casinos are also under the supervision of regulators.
Hopefully, there are still casinos that are not too strict in implementing KYC for all their members, especially those who gamble with only small amounts of money.

[Odusko]

Some people do not like fiat casino because of slow withdrawal time. It is fast on local casinos but slow on foreign casinos. Just like bet365, it takes almost or more than 2 weeks for their wire transfer and my country have only that option in it to withdraw.  Because of this, I prefer the crypto casinos which process my transaction in just few minutes.

Some crypto casinos do not require KYC for low transactions and also there are web3 casinos that requires no KYC but I have not bet on web3 casinos before.

Sincerely speaking most physical casinos have fast withdrawal and deposits processing, some of them here in my country have their casinos payment implemented into some banks apps that way the transactions between my banks and the casino is at a lightening spead, I have never experienced any transactions delay before on all the traditional casinos that I am using.
All though there may be instances that some other gamblers could experience a delay in theirs transactions I can't outrighly make comments for other fiats casinos, I think the major challenge is in the area of kyc although we still have some physical casinos that demands only email and phone verifications which is still a tier 1 verifications.

[bangjoe]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Yes, it used to be said that way, although there are still some casinos that do not enforce KYC like web3 casino for example, but that is a barrier about user protection, we know that no casino is completely decentralized will affect user confidence in the casino, because with the physical form of the company, it is necessary to regulate casino operations by the government for a company.

So in the end this will have the same basis as FIAT casinos, in addition to the trust of KYC is also an effort to eliminate money laundering from irresponsible parties, so it will certainly be like FIAT casinos in general if the regulations are like that.

[tyz]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

There a still some crypto casinos which do not require KYC. The most ones are small ones. Established crypto casinos which mostly also sponser clubs and events fall under regulation. Of cource, they were once associated with anonymity and decentralization but the industry has evolved, and many now prioritize licensing and KYC regulations. This shift has led some to question whether crypto casinos are still distinct from fiat casinos. However, the use of blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies can still provide transparency and security benefits that are unique to the crypto space. The future of crypto casinos will likely involve a balance between regulatory compliance and the preservation of these advantages.

[Crypto Library]

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What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The main thing is to us. Now if I tell you what are the first things to notice when choosing a website for gambling? I know most of the answers will be that the casino must have a certificate from a good organization and must be a reputable casino. And to be a reputable casino, they must have a good certificate and when a casino goes for licensing, they must have kyc verification if they follow the laws of gambling organizations, otherwise they will not get a license. Because many times decentralized casinos that do not require KYC verification provide money laundering and terrorist funds.
From my point of view I would say that there are still many reputable casinos in the forum who do not ask kyc verification but if they see any suspicious activity they ask KYC verification. We can keep these casinos in our list if we want.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

            -   Of course, when you say anonymous, it means that casino gambling is a decentralized platform. We are the ones fully in control of the crypto assets that we will enter, unless we lose
the fund that we have that we connect to by playing gambling.

Also, in DEX gambling, the fight that is given to gamblers seems to be fair because you can feel that there is no manipulation happening; it is just my opinion that is being said here.

[erep]

There a still some crypto casinos which do not require KYC. The most ones are small ones. Established crypto casinos which mostly also sponser clubs and events fall under regulation. Of cource, they were once associated with anonymity and decentralization but the industry has evolved, and many now prioritize licensing and KYC regulations. This shift has led some to question whether crypto casinos are still distinct from fiat casinos. However, the use of blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies can still provide transparency and security benefits that are unique to the crypto space. The future of crypto casinos will likely involve a balance between regulatory compliance and the preservation of these advantages.

As technology develops recently then casinos have to comply with the regulations that have been set for the obligations of each casino platform, although casinos provide crypto services but casinos are not completely decentralized but depend on agreed regulations, so we have no choice to gamble in established casinos and we be willing to verify your KYC account unless you choose another casino that cannot get reputable and trustworthy reviews. All decisions regarding KYC depend on each individual but I choose established casinos even though they require KYC verification.

[_act_]

It seems difficult and I think crypto is also not anonymous at the moment so in my opinion there is actually no difference now between crypto casinos and fiat casinos

How about the decentralized casinos? You might not have used one of them to gamble before but you do not need to go for KYC before you gamble on those casinos, but in the futures there is possibility of requesting for KYC. I can still understand you. You mean the centralised casinos. Most people even prefer to go for KYC nowadays and that some fiat casinos are supporting crypto now while some crypto casinos are also supporting fiat which is bridging both together. But crypto is still better because it is not centralised like fiat, this makes foreign casinos to be easily accessible than fiat casinos.

[un_rank]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy...

This is not actually the main reason. Majority of gamblers choose crypto gambling cause it allows smoother deposits without barriers. You do not need to bother about what local currencies are accepted and what payment options they use.

Freedom would be the secondary reason and anyone who really wants that has some options they can explore.

- Jay -

[famososMuertos]

It is an "all roads lead to Rome" route. (Rome xKYC)

Casinos without KYC will still exist, but they will be a rarity, and therefore surely not all of them legitimately serve good intentions.

On the other hand, one of the great advantages will be the size of the bet, Fiat casinos will not be able to handle this, since their minimum bet is $0.01 and in very few casinos.

Then there is the PF, which could well be the first thing to name, then the deposits in crypto currency.

[wheelz1200]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Crypto and gambling "rules" aren't any different than fiat in terms of compliance.  The part that differs is access.  Since crypto is a universal currency if you find a casino you trust that's based in a location that doesn't require kyc than I guess you can use it.  But for me I comply with any laws regardless.  You need to report for tax purposes etc so for me I don't think so no.  Amd if a site didn't require it and not located in a place where I can gamble I wouldn't use that site either.

[danadc]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy...

This is not actually the main reason. Majority of gamblers choose crypto gambling cause it allows smoother deposits without barriers. You do not need to bother about what local currencies are accepted and what payment options they use.

Freedom would be the secondary reason and anyone who really wants that has some options they can explore.

- Jay -

Well, I have also chosen crypto and use the crypto casino because I feel that they offer me a good way to have privacy and anonymity, so I believed that with that no one was going to supervise me, even at the moment where I am there are no taxes that are imposed using crypto casino or using bitcoin, but it is better to avoid these types of things, what I think is that now there is no longer any privacy or anonymity, and the KYC wants us to have that right and not to mention using the privacy measures that the majority does not even There are in the exchanges, then it is difficult, now it is due to decentralized wallets and casinos, this reason is enough for us to begin to believe that we need urgent editions to be able to make or play in a casino.

When we are in any casino what we are looking for is security, not that we deposit and then take the surprise that to withdraw they require a very radical KYC.

[dothebeats]

Sadly, gone are the days wherein crypto service and platforms are anonymous. Bitcoin's popularity, alongside its rise in value over the years contributed to these platforms getting heavily regulated and kept track by the authorities. There's also not much casino operators do with the regulations, because if they don't comply, they will be the ones under the microscope of the authorities.

We're clearly heading towards KYC in every online service, it appears. At this point, the best thing to do is limit what information you give out to the services or platforms you're planning to use. DEX gambling sites are still yet to appear, unfortunately. If there are any that exists right now, they aren't as secure or as reliable as the centralized casinos that we play in right now.

[sunsilk]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

We're actually heading there and many of them are just being complaint to the regulations. As much as they want to remain anonymous and don't want to pressure their users with kyc or verification processes, they have to do it or else they'll be the one pressured by regulators.

I guess that it will just eventually accepted that most of the casinos are going to be like them. And most users are going to have the thought that they'd be asked for KYC later on if they start withdrawing their money on them.

We can't do anything but to adapt the situation or just go on with those casinos that still don't ask for it.

[Fortify]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

You're ultimately going to end up in one of two scenarios when crypto gambling these days. 1) You go with a newer crypto gambling site, where you risk them disappearing into the night with your money if they want to pull an exit scam one day because it is exceptionally hard to start a new casino without substantial backing. or 2) You play at a more regulated crypto gambling site where you might be able to deposit and withdraw up to a certain threshold, let's say $500, without them requiring you to send in any ID. However one day they will likely ask for these in order to satisfy KYC documentation that is present in most countries that you want the casino to be based in. In summary, yes it's quite hard to achieve these days.

[Slow death]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Years ago, people were happier with the freedom that cryptocurrencies could give them, especially the ability to stay away from government control. but after some time people started seeing the large numbers of scammers who cheated and stole money from people. Single scam projects, with fake teams were very common things in the cryptocurrency market, the problem with that is that with scam projects that had fake teams it was difficult to convince rich people or institutional investors that this was a very serious market and that they could invest in this market for the market to grow, people also saw scam exchanges like yobit which, despite committing many cases of scams, continued to operate. This is because governments were turning a blind eye to this market

as governments ignored this market, so the number of scam cases were absurd and as time went by people started to understand that it was good for the market for the government to intervene and that's what started to happen, the government started looking at exchanges that they laundered money, then governments punished them and arrested their owners and then governments implemented kyc. it was a necessary measure. I had no other choice. Then governments started looking at online casinos and also introduced KYC and licensing. It is true that having a license does not mean that the casino is honest. but with the license it means that the casino respects government laws and this is of great importance

because if a casino does not have a license to operate, then that casino does not respect the laws created by governments, so that casino should also not force anyone to comply with the casino's TOS because legally that casino is illegal, it is operating in violation of the law, it becomes the casino owner into a criminal. So people should stay away from the casino that is breaking the law because it is being operated without a license, this is no small thing as some people think. An unlicensed casino can be seized by the government and the government does not return money from anyone who has deposited in the seized casino. people should know this

[seoincorporation]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The gambling industry has been changing a lot in the past years, as you mentioned, the cool part was when it used to be anonymous, but the regulations came to this industry and now more than 90% of the casinos ask for KYC. But there are some casinos that still operation as the old way.

Crypto casinos and fiat casinos are alike nowadays because both use the same providers, and there are a lot of casinos who accept cryptos and fiat.

[chaser15]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

As long as you are dealing with a centralized gambling platform in crypto-gambling, don't expect full anonymity.

Even as much as how centralized gambling wants full privacy for their users, the regulations are hitting them hard and as part of their business to run legit, they need to comply with everything and users will also have to deal with it.

I don't mind anything about anonymity in my crypto-gambling since what for? As long I'm dealing with a reputable crypto-gambling platform, I don't mind complying with their KYC, of course as long as also it's not annoying and shouldn't be asked for small withdrawals.

[Wexnident]

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I don't think it's impossible but if you start considering some other things, like a casino being a type of business, it doesn't seem to be that possible anymore. Regulations exist and if you want to serve people in that certain jurisdiction, you have to adopt their laws at some level. Even if you ignore those groups of people, at some point you'd inevitably lose all your users due to all the geo-blocking that countries do.

Not to mention that well, a lot of people would much rather prefer convenience and assurance that the casino they play in is secure and legal than their privacy. A casino that doesn't ask for KYC would most likely adopt it sooner or later so nothing's really that different from a casino that started with KYC in the first place.

[Furious 7]

Now when you want anonymity in gambling it also seems a little troublesome because even though there are still some sites that do that but on the other hand there are now many gambling sites that do require KYC which makes anonymity difficult to do but on the other hand it is also ultimately not without reason because after all when a gambling site or gambling house is formed there will definitely be a license from the government which is certain that there will be demands for KYC now because some gambling sites that are integrated with the government, KYC is always used as one of the conditions to make security more secure besides that this also affects casinos in identifying their players.

Actually for this I don't really care if the site is good regardless of KYC or not I don't really care further because after all there will definitely be provisions that apply when we are already on a site because my goal is to be in an outside casino using crypto not fiat even though anonymity is initially what is sought but there are other factors such as ease of withdrawal because when gambling using fiat sometimes the withdrawal is quite slow.

[Rruchi man]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Things have quickly changed in the world of cryptocurrency, so it has affected gambling with it also as well. When there were no concerns about the illegal activities that were been done with bitcoin like money laundering, Casino's could operate freely without KYC. Now that the authorities know that criminals are exploiting their casino accounts and were using it for some sort of illegal activities, Anti Money Laundering laws were formed to tackle it and that involved Casino KYC that challenges anonymity. These laws will not go away, they may even become stricter, and we may see more policies that will further blow out any hope left for anonymity with gambling with crypto.

[serjent05]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

As long as a gambling company acquires a license from the authority, the word anonymous is just a dream since the authority will always require every licensed company to abide with their anti-money laundering regulation and it requires KYC so that they can trace people's financial flows.

Centralized and decentralized casino companies will naturally follow the path of implementing KYC because it is one of the requirement and responsibility in following the AML implementation of the gambling regulatory board.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The gambling industry has been changing a lot in the past years, as you mentioned, the cool part was when it used to be anonymous, but the regulations came to this industry and now more than 90% of the casinos ask for KYC. But there are some casinos that still operation as the old way.

Crypto casinos and fiat casinos are alike nowadays because both use the same providers, and there are a lot of casinos who accept cryptos and fiat.

As far as I remember gambling industry is already regulated even before crypto casinos were introduced.  Without the license to operate, the casino will eventually shutdown once the government or regulatory board tagged them as illegally operating gambling platform.  We are just lucky that in crypto casinos, many tends to have threshold before they asked for KYC.

[AmoreJaz]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Things have quickly changed in the world of cryptocurrency, so it has affected gambling with it also as well. When there were no concerns about the illegal activities that were been done with bitcoin like money laundering, Casino's could operate freely without KYC. Now that the authorities know that criminals are exploiting their casino accounts and were using it for some sort of illegal activities, Anti Money Laundering laws were formed to tackle it and that involved Casino KYC that challenges anonymity. These laws will not go away, they may even become stricter, and we may see more policies that will further blow out any hope left for anonymity with gambling with crypto.

In the early days, casinos didn't have the gambling license to operate, but in today's business, crypto casinos are applying for gambling license in order to compete with other gambling platforms. Hence, they need to abide the protocols set by the authorities towards crypto gambling. I believe, gambling license have been rooted to the fact that a lot of complaints were being received before owed to fly-by-night casinos.

As casino owners want to establish their reputation to the community, they acquire gambling license to show that they are sincere with their intentions to this type of business.

[agustina2]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Don't hug the anonymity in gambling even if we are in crypto. Don't be afraid of the issue of identity theft as long as you are not complying with KYC on bullshit gambling sites that have obvious characteristics of being a scam and not trustworthy.

There are lots of crypto-gambling sites nowadays that still don't push for KYC. If you are just a casual or average gambler, don't worry at all.

We can still play anonymously on most crypto-gambling sites as in most cases, they only asked KYC if the account was alarmed and doing big withdrawals.

[nelson4lov]

I think by now we should dead the idea of true privacy in gambling because I don't see how it'll get to work. Most of the gamblers today won't place bets on a sportbook or casino if the gambling outfit isn't licensed; forgetting that the owners had to doxx themselves before they could get that to work and one of their requirements for the license would be to identify some, if not all of the players on their platform. I've come to understand that in life, you can't eat your cake and have it. You can't want a licensed/registered casino and expect full anonymity.

If there is a fully anonymous casino, people might exploit it for money laundering purposes. That's not to say all users will use it that way but there would always be bad eggs.

There was an anonymous betting platform on the forum in the early days where you don't have to register. You just place a bet and if won, the money is sent back to receiving address  i think it got shutdown years ago.

[Dave1]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

To be honest, I would say NO, almost all crypto casinos are asking for KYC nowadays, and it's because it's mandated if I'm my memory serves me right. There are casinos who say, NO KYC in the beginning and it's a blatant scam as we have seen them asking for it if you won big.

I think the only difference with fiat casino is that if we get to pass the KYC and approved, withdrawal then is very quick. As most fiat casinos will take time even if your KYC is a green though to deposit your winnings to your account.

[alani123]

Well if being anonymous is something that bothers you with gambling, there's still a few bookies that will take your bets even without needing any personal evidence. But sadly fewer and fewer bookies are willing to do that as the time goes by. For anonymous gambling there still exist more unique games like bustabit for example which never required personal info in the first place. And for poker there's seals with clubs and some other sites.

Sadly though for the full casino experience with reasonable house edge, good odds and having access to most unique games some light for of KYC is needed. This is something most crypto gamblers feel ok with by this point. And it's also a fact that a casino not asking KYC for 99% of its customers could potentially single out a few to ask about it. So it's not too safe when playing casino games.

[mirakal]

As crypto casinos mature, they're starting to resemble fiat casinos more closely. While anonymity was once a big draw, there's now a push for legitimacy and regulation. Still crypto casinos have perks like faster transactions and lower fees plus they offer gambling access to people in places with strict rules or banking limitations. It's a balancing act between regulation and innovation and both crypto and fiat casinos are evolving to meet changing demands and preferences

Crypto casinos still offer its customers outstanding levels of privacy and anonymity, but I guess these days having this anonymity is now being compromised. Simply because they’re starting to become more like centralized so they can still look more ideal for those customers who are looking for highly secured and reputable casinos that can provide them excellent service and security. And that will only happen if those casinos will abide to the rules and regulations made by the legal government.

However, despite of the real purpose of this KYC which is to protect us from the scammers and to maintain the reputation of the casino, I still believe that this could highly trigger our personal identity that will lead to breaking our anonymity. But I think being anonymous is not anymore the biggest concern of the gamblers, but to have fast withdrawals and tight security on their funds so they won’t be compromising their funds once they started putting them in casinos exchanges.

[Asuspawer09]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

I mean if a casino requires KYC I would usually avoid it for sure it's not gonna be wise to give my KYC to some casino that is that from my country for sure, Still I think it is possible to achieve anonymous gambling on crypto gambling platforms, most of the crypto gambling platform doesnt require any kind of KYC and it uses cryptocurrency as a payment making no trace of your information, transactions are recorded for sure in the blockchain, but as long as your careful it is going to be difficult to trace someone with just a address.

Just avoid a crypto gambling casino that requires a KYC i mean if you look at the trusted gambling website here there are a ton of platforms that don't require any kind of KYC.

It was usually going to be a red flag to me if I encountered a gambling website that required KYC in the first place, I believed that there was no need to get this kind of information, not to mention that there are a lot of gambling website out there that has scam cases, its was really popular where online gambling website is up to a scheme, so I wouldn't give KYC to any platform because it can be used to illegal activities if you give it to them, you don't know they might be selling your data, you never know, let just say that it wasn't worth it taking that risk.

Gambling Tons of trusted website here plus your getting a good support if they are here in the future, not to mention most of them doesn't required KYC.

[danherbias07]

We have seen the scary part when it comes to being anonymous, business owners closing down like they don't even care about those who invested with them. Scam attempts, fake bankruptcy, and more.
You could say many cryptocurrency enthusiasts have been sick of this kind of strategy hiding in the feature of "anonymity" just to make their business more attractive to crypto users. Those in this forum already know that.

There's really no harm in using the popular casinos now. And we can still use our cryptocurrencies but we have to abide by the KYC needed for the safety of both ends. To keep their business against harmful events like money laundering and us to gain wider access to their promotions and other features.
It's a win-win situation as long as the gambling site is reputable.
No, I don't think we are going to achieve anonymous gambling even in the next eras to come, if we did there's higher risk glued into it.

[Saisher]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

We all have different opinions on this, but my opinion is we are doing ok the community prefers compliance to regulators than complete anonymity, this is to protect the platform where we are playing and to protect the gamblers from being scammed.
The Crypto casino has a different setup from all Cryptocurrency concepts they need to be compliant because of the amount of money going in and out like the exchange and they need to be compliant in countries where they allow their players to use their platform.
So we are doing good because of the regulation to protect players and the gambling platform.

[o48o]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Imho we have lost the battle on anonymity. but we can win the battle on selective privacy, decentralzation and zero-knowledge KYC solution. So instead of anonymity, we have confidential transactions and ability to prove we have compliant ids to their ToS, without revealing who we are. As with ZK it's possible to audit wallets and persons without revealing social security number or address for example. ZK KYC would make it possible to comply with regulations in a way we haven't tried yet, but we soon will.

This idea of "full privacy" is pretty much gone with AML, at least with big amounts of money/crypto. Casinos that would try to get around it would soon be pointless as any crypto that would get trough them would would just get flagged. We aren't that far yet, and these rules only apply with large amounts. As it would be impractical to try to follow every little transactions.

[Plaguedeath]

Can a casino platform ever be open source? Believe I have seen templates used and they just change the name of the site and they are off & running and business begins coming in.
Monero had something happen to it a couple of months ago. Something to do with the developers. It caused the value to drop suddenly for the altcoin.
So not too certain a developing casino would want to support a coin if it starts to show any sort of problems to do with it's development team.

That's why we don't see any anonymous casino until now, even it exist, I don't believe it will be successful. It's the risk of the developer if they make the source to public, don't be surprised we will see people are saying anonymous casino is scam (because the scammer copy paste the source code).

Since casino is profit oriented business, all they do is looking to earn money instead of focusing to deliver an unique project that high unlikely will not bring any profit.

[Z390]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casinos?

This sounds like a joke to me, using crypto to gain full privacy? How is that ever going to work when the majority of those crypto coins are not baked as privacy coins? If you truly want privacy then start looking for online casinos that accept Monero (XMR), this is the only crypto project thats really privacy/anonymous baked, others aren't.

I don't believe that no gambling platforms have true anonymity, all of them are centralized businesses they can only pretend to offer decentralized operation but that's not completely true.
I will advise fellow gamblers to stop looking for decentralized casinos online, they should be ready to pass KYC on any online casinos they want to use and they must always go through the casino's Terms and conditions, some might restrict your location and some might frown using VPN, you don't want to find this out after breaking the rules.

[stadus]

I will advise fellow gamblers to stop looking for decentralized casinos online, they should be ready to pass KYC on any online casinos they want to use and they must always go through the casino's Terms and conditions, some might restrict your location and some might frown using VPN, you don't want to find this out after breaking the rules.

It's also good to expect that an account will be frozen soon if we don't follow the KYC requirements. Some casino might implement it later on when we are already winning money, but it should not surprise us at all because we are well aware of that. Awareness is really the key, we use a centralized casino, expect KYC is a basic requirement, if they don't require as early then well and good,  but if they will in the future, we should not complain as if we are not aware

Personally, I'd choose a centralized casino that I'm allowed to play with KYC or would implement in the future rather than playing with a decentralize casino that its bankroll are limited because of lack of interest from the gambling community.

[Kakmakr]

Anonymous gambling are just a marketing tool for new casinos to draw people to fund their new operation. As soon as they received enough money from all the anonymous users, they change their policy and they start to implement full KYC requirements.

This is not a new strategy, so you will see more anonymous casinos doing the same thing when they are new.

Regulators target the big fish, not the small new startups... so they allow them to grow and when they are fat, they start to hunt them.

[Coin_trader]

Anonymous gambling is just a marketing tool for new casinos to draw people to fund their new operation. As soon as they received enough money from all the anonymous users, they change their policy and they start to implement full KYC requirements.

This is not a new strategy, so you will see more anonymous casinos doing the same thing when they are new.

Most of the time you’re right but nowadays only decentralized claims an anonymous gambling while the rest of the casino that has a casino license always indicates that they will ask KYC most likely on every player without any definite time. Casino with license that claims no KYC is very shady since they will surely do this if an account potentially violates the ToS.

It’s very hard to see a real decentralized casino now because everyone is acquiring gambling license to operates legally and compete with other casino in terms of trust with players.

I think casino that doesn’t have license can promise this no KYC but it’s very hard to trust them fully.

[Findingnemo]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The nature of crypto remains same as it was but since more people are using cryptos now governments and regulators drawn frameworks for operating a casino and this is why KYC is becoming mandatory on every crypto casino too but still it can give privacy not anonymity which is different from one another but we don't need to worry that much when you choose to play and get verified in a casino that took time to build it's reputation.

[davis196]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

It's theoretically possible to achieve anonymous gambling in centralized crypto casino.
1.The casino must accept only privacy coins like Monero.
2.The casino must be VPN friendly and have an .onion website(accepting Tor browser users).
3.The casino shouldn't use third party game providers. It must create and host it's own gambling games.
4.No KYC(self-explanatory).
The real problem is, who would trust such crypto casino and deposit his coins there? I guess that the forum members before me, who mentioned decentralized gambling are right. The gambling games should be hosted on the blockchain, but AFAIK, the blockchains of privacy coins like Monero don't have such features.

[Distinctin]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The nature of crypto remains same as it was but since more people are using cryptos now governments and regulators drawn frameworks for operating a casino and this is why KYC is becoming mandatory on every crypto casino too but still it can give privacy not anonymity which is different from one another but we don't need to worry that much when you choose to play and get verified in a casino that took time to build it's reputation.

Of couse you won't see a problem when you are gambling in a reputable casino and you verify yourself with its KYC. However, if you are into gambling valuing anonymity over anything else, then it will not work with centralizd casino or best known as regulated casino because when government is in charge, we all  follow to their standard law they implement.

There's a reason for KYC, and that is to prevent crime like money laundering, but what if the government itself is the evil? If that is the case then our information are not safe anymore since they have access of our info, and could require a casino to disclose all our transactions. This came to my mind after watching series of conspiracy theory movies but I believe it's hapenning or could happen in real life

[Assface16678]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The nature of crypto remains same as it was but since more people are using cryptos now governments and regulators drawn frameworks for operating a casino and this is why KYC is becoming mandatory on every crypto casino too but still it can give privacy not anonymity which is different from one another but we don't need to worry that much when you choose to play and get verified in a casino that took time to build it's reputation.

Exactly, people or gamblers in crypto currency want a fully anonymous status in a website casino. I don't know why, but if their intention is security, then the websites are already implementing measures that will ensure your safety in a crypto casino. The sad part is that there's no such anonymous person right now in a crypto casino because they need to undergo KYC, which is required for almost all website casinos. Its purpose is to inform customers to avoid using the website casino for crimes like fraud or anything related to money. It serves as security for the customer and also for the website, as laws require them to do KYC in order to legally operate. It's hard to find a fully anonymous status in this ear in crypto casino, so better accept the situation or else don't play gambling or crypto casino at all; its your choice.

[piebeyb]

Personally, I'd choose a centralized casino that I'm allowed to play with KYC or would implement in the future rather than playing with a decentralize casino that its bankroll are limited because of lack of interest from the gambling community.

Yes me too, everyone has different views on playing at centralized or decentralized casinos, what you say is true that the bankroll is not that much for decentralized casinos so maybe people prefer centralized casinos, actually there are a lot of user concerns from KYC issues and I supports it if it prevents money laundering, but in my opinion it would be very annoying for users who only gamble and play for tens of dollars but the centralized casino asks for KYC before making a withdrawal.

That's obviously unsettling for users, it's natural that there are users who might complain about it where centralized crypto casinos are starting to tighten up on little things like this small users have to go through KYC to withdraw or make deposits, although not all big crypto casinos do it, but obviously it will be very It's also annoying for anonymous users to gamble at centralized casinos. To be honest, so far I've had no problem playing at centralized casinos, but I heard my friend's story where he had to go through KYC just because he withdrew tens of dollars, that's not good either, even though he wasn't there. the purpose of carrying out money laundering or something like that, centralized casinos should respect the privacy of small gamblers more and not implement KYC so that there is not much anxiety that occurs.

[Taskford]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The nature of crypto remains same as it was but since more people are using cryptos now governments and regulators drawn frameworks for operating a casino and this is why KYC is becoming mandatory on every crypto casino too but still it can give privacy not anonymity which is different from one another but we don't need to worry that much when you choose to play and get verified in a casino that took time to build it's reputation.

Exactly, people or gamblers in crypto currency want a fully anonymous status in a website casino. I don't know why, but if their intention is security, then the websites are already implementing measures that will ensure your safety in a crypto casino. The sad part is that there's no such anonymous person right now in a crypto casino because they need to undergo KYC, which is required for almost all website casinos. Its purpose is to inform customers to avoid using the website casino for crimes like fraud or anything related to money. It serves as security for the customer and also for the website, as laws require them to do KYC in order to legally operate. It's hard to find a fully anonymous status in this ear in crypto casino, so better accept the situation or else don't play gambling or crypto casino at all; its your choice.

Maybe because they are not so comfortable with idea that they need to provide their KYC  and they are afraid for some issues that might happen to them that's why some people choose these online casino before since they think they are safe for any uncomfortable circumstances that they don't want to get in. But now since regulation towards financial institutions tighten up including these online casino has rise then being anonymous is not likely gonna happen here. So maybe its up for them to decide if they want to continue or they value their security then leave totally since at the end their comfortability and safety is more important that anything else there.

[kotajikikox]

Can a casino platform ever be open source? Believe I have seen templates used and they just change the name of the site and they are off & running and business begins coming in.
Monero had something happen to it a couple of months ago. Something to do with the developers. It caused the value to drop suddenly for the altcoin.
So not too certain a developing casino would want to support a coin if it starts to show any sort of problems to do with it's development team.

That's why we don't see any anonymous casino until now, even it exist, I don't believe it will be successful. It's the risk of the developer if they make the source to public, don't be surprised we will see people are saying anonymous casino is scam (because the scammer copy paste the source code).

but lets not lose chances about that having anonymous gambling experiences , but indeed this will not be coming any time now.

Since casino is profit oriented business, all they do is looking to earn money instead of focusing to deliver an unique project that high unlikely will not bring any profit.

correct , why do they care more about these things when they are focusing in money making and not to give anything about anonymous.

[Outhue]

I will advise fellow gamblers to stop looking for decentralized casinos online, they should be ready to pass KYC on any online casinos they want to use and they must always go through the casino's Terms and conditions, some might restrict your location and some might frown using VPN, you don't want to find this out after breaking the rules.

It's also good to expect that an account will be frozen soon if we don't follow the KYC requirements. Some casino might implement it later on when we are already winning money, but it should not surprise us at all because we are well aware of that. Awareness is really the key, we use a centralized casino, expect KYC is a basic requirement, if they don't require as early then well and good,  but if they will in the future, we should not complain as if we are not aware

Personally, I'd choose a centralized casino that I'm allowed to play with KYC or would implement in the future rather than playing with a decentralize casino that its bankroll are limited because of lack of interest from the gambling community.

This is why gamblers need to firstly pass KYC on an online casino before they start to gamble on the platform, after doing research and finding out that the casino is a good one, proceed with KYC, then after you are passed you can start to gamble, this will get rid of any doubts or incoming problems that non-KYC verified accounts are facing.

I know some people will still be against KYC but how far can you run away from it? Even outside of gambling platforms, there is no popular income stream online this days that are not centralized.

Even privacy coins are facing difficulty in progressing in this centralized world, only Bitcoin maintained its decentralized feature well and thats because Bitcoin isn't a privacy coin, there would have been a problem if it was.

Say no to KYC in gambling means you choose to walk away from gambling, believe me, the few online casinos that are giving users privacy vibes will still be the ones to send them the ' we are sorry ' message, stating that they have to comply to some rules to keep their business in safer shape, be expecting this sooner.

[Natalim]

Say no to KYC in gambling means you choose to walk away from gambling, believe me, the few online casinos that are giving users privacy vibes will still be the ones to send them the ' we are sorry ' message, stating that they have to comply to some rules to keep their business in safer shape, be expecting this sooner.

This is the reality in the world we are living now. We are constant in the space and we still think that gambling anonymously can be acheive here where in fact the world is evolving and once again the government won the battle. We were too optimistic from the start that we think we can live in our world, but this "REGULATION" thing came it and it destroy the main porpuse of crypto. Now we are just an alternative currency as still under fiat.

[OceanBit]

It might be because many casinos are just following regulations and asking for verification. There might be still some platforms that prioritizes privacy, like for other casino that do not require KYC for lower transactions. Depending on regulatory requirements, user preference and technology advancements

[Viscore]

It might be because many casinos are just following regulations and asking for verification. There might be still some platforms that prioritizes privacy, like for other casino that do not require KYC for lower transactions. Depending on regulatory requirements, user preference and technology advancements

Not all the time you bet small, and sometimes even if you bet small but if you are lucky you can hit a jackpot. So what would happen? My guess, a casino would just hold your funds and will let you pass the KYC first, the problem is if you can't do that because you don't have the necessary requirements, that means you'll say good bye to your winnings as you can't held a casino accountable for you violation. I guess the point here is, don't aim to win big if you can't pass the KYC, pretty simple.

[naira]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

If you look at the growing growth of casino gambling, the rules are getting stricter because licensing and operating rules require crypto casinos to follow the rules. So if at first we might have been quite satisfied with anonymity at that time, now it is very difficult and like it or not, regulations are something that both the casino and its users need to follow. For different reasons, namely to ensure fraud, multiple accounts and so on. Moreover, the casino still protects our identity properly and safely, as long as our actions in the casino are not excessive and we only intend to gamble. Is complete anonymity being eroded? maybe but instead of having to gamble with fiat, for me it's still better to follow the rules of crypto gambling.

[Strongkored]

Crypto itself is less decentralized since there are many regulations governing it as well as exchanges so that when crypto casinos also become less decentralized it is nothing new because it follows from the type of payment and also the license that the casino has reducing fraudulent practices which would easily occur if it were not there, although it cannot be denied that some licensed casinos still commit fraud.
Nowadays it is difficult to be anonymous, in many cases we are even more open with our personal data without realizing more than us doing KYC at the casino.

[EarnOnVictor]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

For me, what cryptocurrency brought was Decentralisation and Privacy depending on the coin you are using, but never Anonymity as many wrongly widely believe(d). Nothing is anonymous in crypto transactions, it might only take time and a huge puzzle to solve, notwithstanding, that the transactions can still be linked/located.

With crypto casinos, it got worse with the involvement of third-party transactions as people were sending and receiving cryptos to and from the casinos respectively. Are casinos not another party serving the public, and not private? That makes it no privacy anymore in my opinion inasmuch as it is not only you and your crypto again but as involved a third party (casino). But people do not often think it to that extent. And with the pressure of regulation and knowing more about your customer (KYC), it gets worse even as people trust and prefer the licenced and regulated crypto casinos to the opposite due to the safety of their money. This is however the way it should be since too much privacy/anonymity is dangerous to the world.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Simply put, we are heading to more regulation, indirect de-decentralization of crypto transactions and more accountability. Isn't that cool?

And of course, fiat is not crypto and crypto is not fiat, and never would they be, so they will always be different since their structure and mechanism of operation are different. This is even as you can own and seize your crypto in a wallet where nobody (not even the government) can touch it since you own the private key. Can you do the same with fiat? They are not just the same.

[adultcrypto]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

It is really a helpless situation because most of the reputable casinos require KYC. Even the online crypto casinos are not exempted from this requirement unless those that are not regulated and lately, web3 casinos which are new technology. Gradually we will come to reality that the issue of privacy in cryptocurrency is a dead matter as privacy would have been defeated. Going with the non-regulated casinos that does not require KYC has its own inherent risk and this is why I said it is a helpless situation. I don't know how web3 casinos will be able to meet the expectations and how safe they are; only time will tell. So, we just have to live with the reality of our time and accept the system as we see it.

[Warkop]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The use of cryptocurrencies in gambling may differ from person to person. Some people may seek them out for their anonymity, while others enjoy the technical aspects and profit potential of cryptocurrencies. Maintaining a balance between security, regulatory compliance and user privacy will be a future challenge for the industry. While changes in the cryptocurrency and cryptocurrency gambling industry may change the way we view things, cryptocurrency casinos still have the opportunity to offer a different and unique experience compared to fiat casinos, albeit with appropriate adjustments to changing regulations and user preferences.

[Zigabel]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

The anonymity in the crypto casinos basically remains in the cryptocurrency transactions at this point but the customer or gamble isn't anonymous again to.the casino and that's actually how the casinos operates in recent times, basically I think because of the regulations from the regions where most of these casinos are situated they have to implement KYC on their customers because if they don't, probably they may end up not been permited or licensed to function actively in such an area or jurisdiction hence they have to effect KYC and at the same time make sure their customers are verified aswell.

Some persons could use the casino for laundry of funds and other crimes and all these will be leveled at the casino thats why they literally make sure they do KYC so thsy don't have issues identifying those who use the casino for illicit activities and they make sure you wager funds deposited into ur wallet before enabling withdrawal.

[gunhell16]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Of course, it's still really nice to play in a casino where we don't have much trouble when it comes to withdrawal transactions. Because there are other casinos that will make it difficult to get out, especially when they see that you are withdrawing a large amount from their platform.

And as far as possible, we as players and gamblers want the casino to be transparent. Who doesn't want that? That's why I don't think about that anymore, because whether they're transparent or not, whether they have KYC or not, what's important to me is that as long as the casino is reputable, I don't have a problem as long as I enjoy it, and if I'm lucky enough to win, that's even better. It's okay, and even if I lose, it's still fine with me.

[QuinielaPosible]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Of course, it's still really nice to play in a casino where we don't have much trouble when it comes to withdrawal transactions. Because there are other casinos that will make it difficult to get out, especially when they see that you are withdrawing a large amount from their platform.

And as far as possible, we as players and gamblers want the casino to be transparent. Who doesn't want that? That's why I don't think about that anymore, because whether they're transparent or not, whether they have KYC or not, what's important to me is that as long as the casino is reputable, I don't have a problem as long as I enjoy it, and if I'm lucky enough to win, that's even better. It's okay, and even if I lose, it's still fine with me.

Yup, the crypto casino scene's shifted big time from the wild west days. Anonymity is taking a back seat as players lean towards security and legality with licensed casinos stepping up. It's a mix now.

Most crypto casinos still have their edge on the hassle-free withdrawals.

[iv4n]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Well, I didn't use fiat online casinos for a while, so I am not sure about how they work these days... before it was pretty complicated for me to play in fiat casinos from my county, deposits and withdrawals were so slow, and I had many restrictions. Now there are many online fiat casinos in my country, but I didn't try them.

But your question is in place, I guess many casinos will become KYC mandatory and that will not differ from fiat casinos, but at the same time, I think that we will have casinos that will be free for all without KYC. Crypto casinos that offer some anonymity, fast deposits & withdrawals will always be in demand from many users. So I guess if we can make any conclusion it would be that we will have everything in crypto, regulated space, and services but for sure we will have some "dark" side that will be free from any government regulations.

[Aniel Jay]

Achieving truly anonymous gambling in crypto is challenging but possible with certain cryptocurrencies like Monero, which prioritize privacy features such as stealth addresses and ring signatures. However, complete anonymity depends on various factors including the specific cryptocurrency used, the platform's implementation of privacy measures, and external factors like regulatory scrutiny.

[goinmerry]

Generally yes, we can achieve fully anonymous gambling in crypto. Though of course, only if you gamble in decentralized gambling platforms.

I'm sure decentralized gambling platforms will grow in numbers as time goes by. Additionally, several centralized crypto-gambling platforms still don't force a mandatory KYC and most of them are popular crypto-gambling platforms.

Since regulations in crypto are becoming hard, platforms need to comply as that is a requirement for a legitimate business operation. It has pros and cons but having KYC shouldn't be a problem to comply with. There are lots of cases already where users got scammed by crypto platforms that the team is hiding behind it. These users are asking for help from authorities but where should the investigation start if the involved casino is anonymous?

[Yogee]

It is what it is. Casinos are not charities or platforms that provides entertainment without getting something in return. Where is this heading? We'll never really know what will shape the future of online gambling but I think we've already encountered the most privacy-intrusive policies. Regulators may want more measures like blocking the sites but I doubt that would really work in the long term.

[adpinbr]

Well, any gambling that require Some verification that shows that it is really you I don’t see it as anonymous anymore because you have been exposed in the platform. Most of the platform and gambling are adding a lot of verification and signing up, sometimes they say is because of reasons which is true maybe someone would have hacked your account and withdraw what you have won, that is how they secure it from hackers, I don’t see it as anonymous anymore.

[Viscore]

Well, any gambling that require Some verification that shows that it is really you I don’t see it as anonymous anymore because you have been exposed in the platform. Most of the platform and gambling are adding a lot of verification and signing up, sometimes they say is because of reasons which is true maybe someone would have hacked your account and withdraw what you have won, that is how they secure it from hackers, I don’t see it as anonymous anymore.

It has nothing to do with hacking accounts because even if your account is fully KYC verified, but your username+ password are compromise, the hacker will be able to withdraw your funds. I believe, KYC is just a basic requirement now to comply with the AMLC (Anti Money Laundering Council),, they are the agency that are investigating money laundering crimes and that they'll ensure that they'll trace where the money are coming and goes to, and how it was washed.

If you still remember, mixers are already ban in the forum as it's associated with money laundering, though it provides anonymity, but government hates it,  so they could freeze it anytime they want.

[Pierre 2]

I feel like complete anonymous identity will be likw impossible with gambling websites of many countries. Nearly every country wanna properly tax gamblers so they enforce gambling companies to ask for all kinds of personal details. World is heading towards internet which is very hard to stay anonymous. I wish this wasn't true but it is. Especially cryptocurrencies used in crypto casinos will never be privacy ones because governments ban/limit their usage.

[Crypt0Gore]

No online casino is true anonymous, but due to the lack of anonymity among online casinos, they knew its something that gamblers always wanted, and its a very good marketing idea.

They can start their business as privacy featured casino but as time goes on they will change to a centralized way of operation, they will put the blame on the authorities, saying they no longer have no choice but to comply.

Get used to common centralized casinos already, do not wait for any privacy casino, it's never coming, and if you come across one, they already used you for marketing, sooner or later they will start asking you for KYC verification.

[Wapfika]

They can start their business as privacy featured casino but as time goes on they will change to a centralized way of operation, they will put the blame on the authorities, saying they no longer have no choice but to comply.

Before, this is really the casino marketing strategy to advertise their casino through privacy but this is not being used anymore by online casino since most of them already joining the casino with license thread just to gain trust of gamblers. Decentralized gambling is now just a the minority that almost no players interested on playing.

Get used to common centralized casinos already, do not wait for any privacy casino, it's never coming, and if you come across one, they already used you for marketing, sooner or later they will start asking you for KYC verification.

Yeah, What I don’t understand nowadays is why gamblers seek privacy in a casino with license while it’s the same idea on exchange with license that ask mandatory KYC. If they already submit KYC on exchange(since they already purchased crypto for gambling deposit) then why they are afraid for privacy. I understood the reason about the fear of data breach of casino but aside from that some user is seeking privacy like they are hiding something with their money.

[Agbamoni]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Well, I didn't use fiat online casinos for a while, so I am not sure about how they work these days... before it was pretty complicated for me to play in fiat casinos from my county, deposits and withdrawals were so slow, and I had many restrictions. Now there are many online fiat casinos in my country, but I didn't try them.

But your question is in place, I guess many casinos will become KYC mandatory and that will not differ from fiat casinos, but at the same time, I think that we will have casinos that will be free for all without KYC. Crypto casinos that offer some anonymity, fast deposits & withdrawals will always be in demand from many users. So I guess if we can make any conclusion it would be that we will have everything in crypto, regulated space, and services but for sure we will have some "dark" side that will be free from any government regulations.

I don't see why people keep complaining about KYC in an online casino. If it is what is required to secure the money of users in the casinos it is a good idea that all casinos should make KYC mandatory. Truth is i can't trust any casinos that don't make KYC compulsory because i would freak out with time. Like how can you trust a platform that don't take security seriously? Risking your money to platforms that would do nothing when something mistakenly happens to it.

If OP, is a fan of no casinos site its quite unfortunate. Because it is increasingly common for new and old casinos to adopt KYC due to government regulations. Perhaps it helps to validate withdrawals, or if they suspect unusual things going on in the platform.

[Julien_Olynpic]

Not everything is so pessimistic and it is quite possible that in the future we will see a reverse trend towards an increase in the number of anonymous casino sites and betting companies. But traditional betting organizations are likely to continue the trend of getting rid of anonymity. In my opinion, the requirement for identity verification is often meaningless, because players register their account in someone else’s name, register from another gadget and send the people they pay to for face-to-face verification. Ultimately, a certain level of anonymity is something that every person has a right to. It is part of our natural rights and it is wrong to take it away from us.

[GigaBit]

If a gambler is invited to a fiat casino or gambling platform after using a crypto casino, he will be able to better understand the differences. Crypto gambling platforms are very helpful for users. Especially in deposits and withdrawals, crypto gambling is far ahead than fiat gambling platforms. Crypto casinos have grown in popularity mainly because gamblers get an opportunity to remain anonymous, which is not possible on fiat platforms. However, due to legal complications, this characteristic is gradually changing. Everyone should come under KYC. While this is a temporary problem for those who truly value anonymity, there is no substitute for KYC to control those involved in money laundering or terrorist activates. Gradually all gambling platforms are coming under government control but I am not too worried about it. Because I believe that gambling platforms are now considered an industry. If it is damaged by the government then the government will lose its revenue.

[Antotena]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Back then, a lot of people care much about decentralization but check how crypto has transition, do you really think people care about that today. People care more about the money in the bag and that's why you see that crypto is saturated with a lot of people looking for meme instead of looking at what the crypto will really offer them, it's sad but that's he reality we live in this era.

Casino also has been rejected, if you are crypto base that is focus on privacy and anonymity, you will probably don't get licnence as thorough investigation has to be done on a casino before they license the casino. So as a business person, they bend rules to make their money rather than been rejected because of something they can change and move on. Didn't you see that most of the casino now requires KYC, this is to say anonymous and decentralization is something of the past.

[Ever-young]

Well, any gambling that require Some verification that shows that it is really you I don’t see it as anonymous anymore because you have been exposed in the platform. Most of the platform and gambling are adding a lot of verification and signing up, sometimes they say is because of reasons which is true maybe someone would have hacked your account and withdraw what you have won, that is how they secure it from hackers, I don’t see it as anonymous anymore.

I totally agree with you. Requiring verification and personal information significantly reduces the anonymity of a gambling platform. It's important to remember that, even if a platform promises to be anonymous, third parties can often track and identify users. However, some platforms protect user privacy better than others, so it's always a good idea to do some research before deciding on one. Although some gamblers are unconcerned about whether or not their privacy is jeopardized, others who value anonymity and privacy should conduct research before choosing a site.

[joniboini]

I don't see why people keep complaining about KYC in an online casino. If it is what is required to secure the money of users in the casinos it is a good idea that all casinos should make KYC mandatory. Truth is i can't trust any casinos that don't make KYC compulsory because i would freak out with time. Like how can you trust a platform that don't take security seriously? Risking your money to platforms that would do nothing when something mistakenly happens to it.

I don't think KYC is a feature to secure users' money though, can you describe how submitting personal details helps the casino/platform that you use to improve how they store your deposit?  I believe even if the casino doesn't know who you are, they can store your money carefully with techniques like a multi-sig wallet, no single point of failure, making sure no workers can gain access to their hot wallet, etc. KYC details are just one way for them to verify who you are, so that either they can comply with the law or do an investigation if somebody is suspicious. I believe there are other ways to verify whether somebody is a bot or not without doing KYC.

One of the most obvious issues with KYC in any platform is the risk of data leaks. There have been tons of database leaks in the last few months or so. You're lucky if they don't leak any sensitive data, but there's no guarantee it won't happen in the future. Not to mention the risk of data abuse such as selling your contact details to other parties without your consent like what happened with Facebook.

[ralle14]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

I'd say it's still somewhat achievable because there are still on-chain casinos, it reminds me of the good old days when we didn't have to worry about any KYC but we are slowly moving away from that point now that most crypto casinos are sticking with the same style as fiat casinos.

There's still a noticeable difference between the fiat and crypto casinos. Then again, they're slowly diminishing with the newer crypto casinos because some of them could sound the same as fiat casinos given that they have more similarities like playing with a fiat balance and the usual countless casino games from third-party providers.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

What I believe is that the trend will continue as it has been, more KYC and more regulations. When I registered on the forum in 2017 you hardly heard of KYC in casinos. Today are the vast majority who have it in their ToS, and casinos without KYC in any assumption are very few left. Simply that there will come a time in the future when there will be no crypto casinos without KYC.

[Ojima-ojo]

Privacy on the internet is no longer achieveable and with the recent increase of centralised platforms it becomes a tool for the regulators to take control of the users privacy and also making demands that will truly make it hard for any gambler or online users to ever achieve such privacy and most times we need to give up looking for privacy online.

Because the only way to achieve that privacy is when we limits ourselves from access to some things online and most of those things are services that we can not easily avoid on the long way down.

[Ever-young]

I believe that one method for cryptocurrency casinos to preserve their distinctiveness is to emphasize on the unique features of the technology known as blockchain. One of the primary benefits of blockchain is its consistency: once a transaction is recorded on the blockchain, it cannot be changed or removed. This adds a layer of security and trust that older, centralized systems cannot supply. Crypto casinos may take advantage of this characteristic by delivering a degree of transparency and confidence that regular casinos do not offer.
Crypto casinos may also keep their individuality by adopting the genuine spirit of decentralization. Many crypto casinos are still controlled by centralized organizations; but, if they allow for a completely decentralized approach of conducting an enterprise.

[qwertyup23]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

There is still that difference but remember that KYC was enabled in order to follow the regulations of some countries that have specific laws for it.

Remember, a fiat casino requires personal appearance at a physical casino. Not to mention, there are strict regulations when it comes to registering your profile as most of the latter lean towards the implementation of KYC. On the other hand, there are still some crypto casinos that offer no KYC but expect that their security/reputation may not be as secured compared to others.

If a gambling casino implements KYC, it is also expected that they have the responsibility to safeguard your information. Sure, anonymity in cryptocurrency may be defeated but this is the only way to consolidate with some laws implemented against casinos in the first place.

[piebeyb]

One of the most obvious issues with KYC in any platform is the risk of data leaks. There have been tons of database leaks in the last few months or so. You're lucky if they don't leak any sensitive data, but there's no guarantee it won't happen in the future. Not to mention the risk of data abuse such as selling your contact details to other parties without your consent like what happened with Facebook.

Yes, that's what anyone is worried about about data leaks, even a Facebook class can still be penetrated and missed, what about a casino class where I'm not sure that its security is not better than Facebook too, but that doesn't mean that crypto casinos that implement KYC are not safe, but as far as Their site is very big and trusted, that's what makes people feel confident on this site, even though they have to risk their privacy and anonymity in online gambling, at least they are safe gambling there without having to worry about losing money due to hacking and other things.

I also actually don't really like this KYC system but most anonymous gamblers will definitely use it as a place to launder money so they can easily do it, although not most gamblers are like that but from that impact and the regulations which are not too strict, anonymous gamblers can do it. committing criminal acts such as money laundering and so on, but everyone comes back to their own views in this matter because I know we all have different views and cannot be the same but must respect each other. As long as it's comfortable for us to gamble, just do it at your own risk

[iv4n]

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I don't see why people keep complaining about KYC in an online casino. If it is what is required to secure the money of users in the casinos it is a good idea that all casinos should make KYC mandatory. Truth is i can't trust any casinos that don't make KYC compulsory because i would freak out with time. Like how can you trust a platform that don't take security seriously? Risking your money to platforms that would do nothing when something mistakenly happens to it.

In the crypto gambling world, cold and hot wallets are used to secure our money, not KYC. KYC & AML rules are for something else, in short, both are used to limit or mitigate the impact of money laundering, multiple accounts, and any other financial crime. You can educate yourself a bit more about that matter here on the forum and in many other places, all you need to do is try the "search" feature. You will find many useful threads here on the forum.

People complain about KYC because we don't wish to share our private info with anyone who opens a casino or any other service. Why would we trust them blindly? If a service asks for KYC it's not a guarantee they are trustworthy and fair. Sharing your private info doesn't keep your money safe if the service fails for any reason, you will lose your money, and your sensitive info will probably be sold on the dark web.

[boyptc]

Sharing your private info doesn't keep your money safe if the service fails for any reason, you will lose your money, and your sensitive info will probably be sold on the dark web.

That's true.

Complying to KYC doesn't mean that they're securing our money but we're just compliant to them and they're also asked by the regulators to do it.

There are also those staff that are taking advantage of their position especially those that have access to their database. Try to test out a new email and register it to any casino, if the data is leak then you'd receive tons of spam emails.

[Huppercase]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

By statistic, fiat casino have more population of gamblers than crypto base casino and do you know why they were able to achieve this numbers? That's because they are government approved and also has some offices in region where they are licensed. So the gamblers feel safe using the casino because they know they wouldn't run away with their money since they are governments approved and allow to operate fully but crypto casino doesn't have this privileges even with the business numbers, they feel trapped because of the crypto hate by some group of government, the have no choice but to act like they are like fiat casino even when they have crypto options.

If you check some casino that are crypto based, you will found out that they have option to deposit through your local bank and for this reason, they have to comply with the host country for KYC because of the fiat involved and some doesn't involve fiat but they still asked for this kyc just to avoid problems like money laundering  later in the future. With all these, it will be difficult to have anything decentralized casino unless they want to operate as illegal without making any form of registration and licensing.

[Finestream]

Sharing your private info doesn't keep your money safe if the service fails for any reason, you will lose your money, and your sensitive info will probably be sold on the dark web.

That's true.

Complying to KYC doesn't mean that they're securing our money but we're just compliant to them and they're also asked by the regulators to do it.

That's different as KYC is a requirement, it doesn't ensure anything about how the business (casino) will handle their operation. But if they are following the guidelines of the regulators, then our money is safe and the same with our information. Don't be afraid to submit details or documents in a casino because they are also required not to disclose it, or keep it confidential, just like how a bank is required on their depositors.

We comply, and they comply as well.. that's it.

There are also those staff that are taking advantage of their position especially those that have access to their database. Try to test out a new email and register it to any casino, if the data is leak then you'd receive tons of spam emails.

As I said, it's on how they handle their operation, if they have staff that breach the contract or the policy, then they'll be dealth accordingly as the company's license is also at risk if they can control the people they hire to help them run the business.

[freedomgo]

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I don't see why people keep complaining about KYC in an online casino. If it is what is required to secure the money of users in the casinos it is a good idea that all casinos should make KYC mandatory. Truth is i can't trust any casinos that don't make KYC compulsory because i would freak out with time. Like how can you trust a platform that don't take security seriously? Risking your money to platforms that would do nothing when something mistakenly happens to it.

In the crypto gambling world, cold and hot wallets are used to secure our money, not KYC. KYC & AML rules are for something else, in short, both are used to limit or mitigate the impact of money laundering, multiple accounts, and any other financial crime. You can educate yourself a bit more about that matter here on the forum and in many other places, all you need to do is try the "search" feature. You will find many useful threads here on the
forum.

We have our way to secure our funds either it's from cold or hot wallet. If it's on the casino side, if they don't put the right measures to ensure the funds are secured, then whatever careful procedure we are doing are just useless since our funds are still in the control of the casinos wallets that are hacked.

KYC and any other verification is not asociated with wallets, because this is a basic government requriement which the casinos regulators are going to implement on them, or they are directed to implement it to the gamblers.

People complain about KYC because we don't wish to share our private info with anyone who opens a casino or any other service. Why would we trust them blindly? If a service asks for KYC it's not a guarantee they are trustworthy and fair. Sharing your private info doesn't keep your money safe if the service fails for any reason, you will lose your money, and your sensitive info will probably be sold on the dark web.

People only complain when they don't understand that KYC is just a basic requirement of a regulated casino.

First, they check if the casino they are playing with has a license, if so then KYC is there as a rule, so knowing that they'll not complain anymore.

[Richbased]

With the involvement of KYC in almost every casino gambling site makes it difficult to achieve anonymity in crypto gambling because literally, all private information about a gambler's real life is needed to undergo KYC just like using fiat but however, crypto gambling is just a form of promoting cryptocurrencies.

The only difference between cryptocurrency and Fiat gambling is that fiat seems to be more fraudulent than crypto currency because the transaction between you and the casino site can be visible on Blockchain whereas in fiat sometimes, they manipulate the process and it cannot be traceable. I have actually been a victim of funding my casino account using fiat but the amount didn't reflect in my balance and all efforts I made to recover my funds proved abortive till date.

[Finestream]

With the involvement of KYC in almost every casino gambling site makes it difficult to achieve anonymity in crypto gambling because literally, all private information about a gambler's real life is needed to undergo KYC just like using fiat but however, crypto gambling is just a form of promoting cryptocurrencies.

Not difficult actually but it's impossible. When you submit a piece of information, it's not anymore anonymoust gambling..all centralized casinos requires an email before we can play, so that email is already considered as your identity as you created that... privacy maybe but anonymity, not gonna happen.

The only difference between cryptocurrency and Fiat gambling is that fiat seems to be more fraudulent than crypto currency because the transaction between you and the casino site can be visible on Blockchain whereas in fiat sometimes, they manipulate the process and it cannot be traceable. I have actually been a victim of funding my casino account using fiat but the amount didn't reflect in my balance and all efforts I made to recover my funds proved abortive till date.

I beg to disagree, I think that's a wrong perception.

When you transact using crypto, yes there is a blockchain which is the public ledger, both sides can see so it's transparent but you can't say that fiat transactions are more susceptiable to fraud because it's easier to trace transactions when coming from a bank (online wallets) since it cannot be created without passing first the KYC, unlike in crypto where you can create a wallet easily even without your real name attach on it.

[Blitzboy]

One of the most obvious issues with KYC in any platform is the risk of data leaks. There have been tons of database leaks in the last few months or so. You're lucky if they don't leak any sensitive data, but there's no guarantee it won't happen in the future. Not to mention the risk of data abuse such as selling your contact details to other parties without your consent like what happened with Facebook.

Yes, that's what anyone is worried about about data leaks, even a Facebook class can still be penetrated and missed, what about a casino class where I'm not sure that its security is not better than Facebook too, but that doesn't mean that crypto casinos that implement KYC are not safe, but as far as Their site is very big and trusted, that's what makes people feel confident on this site, even though they have to risk their privacy and anonymity in online gambling, at least they are safe gambling there without having to worry about losing money due to hacking and other things.

I also actually don't really like this KYC system but most anonymous gamblers will definitely use it as a place to launder money so they can easily do it, although not most gamblers are like that but from that impact and the regulations which are not too strict, anonymous gamblers can do it. committing criminal acts such as money laundering and so on, but everyone comes back to their own views in this matter because I know we all have different views and cannot be the same but must respect each other. As long as it's comfortable for us to gamble, just do it at your own risk

Facebook and other large firms have suffered data breaches. It's obvious that no system is flawless. Well-known crypto casinos that use KYC are trusted enough to gamble. Building confidence takes work, therefore they deserve credit. Players fear about privacy, which is normal.

KYC isn't for everyone. No doubt, it's a tremendous headache for money launderers. It's about industry safety overall. Each gambler has a right to their opinion, but we must make informed choices and respect each other. Smart money management requires knowing the hazards. This crypto world is new, and we're all striving to find the right balance - security without surrendering our independence.

[betswift]

As cryptocurrency and online gambling evolve, achieving complete anonymity in crypto gambling has become more challenging due to regulatory pressures and a growing demand for secure, trustworthy platforms. While early crypto casinos emphasized decentralization and privacy, many now adopt KYC practices similar to fiat casinos to ensure safety and compliance.

Despite these changes, crypto casinos still offer advantages over traditional ones, like faster transactions, lower fees, and a degree of privacy. However, the gap between crypto and fiat casinos is narrowing, especially concerning anonymity. The future of crypto gambling is likely to balance the benefits of cryptocurrency with increased regulatory oversight.

True anonymity in gambling is harder to find but not impossible, as some niches within the crypto world still prioritize it.

[KiaKia]

There is no room for anonymous gambling, many old and new online casinos have tried this, and they all failed, if a casino isn't regulated its more like they are running a shady business, or even a money laundering cartel.

To stay clean they have no choice but to comply, but honestly, I need to ask, what is anonymity in casinos going to give you? Because with every crypto that casinos accepts, you are going to leave behind a track sending from your wallet to the casino account anyway.

You are just trying to put anonymity on something that's not created to function in an anonymous way, From Tron to LTC and many others, they are not privacy coins, you transact using one of these coins you will leave footpath behind.

[danherbias07]

Sharing your private info doesn't keep your money safe if the service fails for any reason, you will lose your money, and your sensitive info will probably be sold on the dark web.

That's true.

Complying to KYC doesn't mean that they're securing our money but we're just compliant to them and they're also asked by the regulators to do it.

There are also those staff that are taking advantage of their position especially those that have access to their database. Try to test out a new email and register it to any casino, if the data is leak then you'd receive tons of spam emails.

Obviously, that won't be a good casino site to stay with, if they are leaking our information outside where we only registered. Worse, I have heard some rumors that they are selling those emails to the black market so they can send whatever scammy attempts they are trying to everyone and they will just wait for a new victim.

I do agree with KYC because the company is just trying to keep their business intact and also to avoid money laundering activities because if this happens, the government they are under will no doubt close them down just using that reason.
It's not like a reputable casino is trying to mess with our information but it's just there to protect themselves too. But if it is a site that only has a purpose to steal our information and use it for evil deeds then we should get out of there as quickly as possible. Changing emails is also an idea because there's a chance a lot of invites will be sent to the tainted ones.

[Rampagoe004]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

No one is truly anonymous if you use crypto to gamble. Yes of course crypto casinos are easier to use than FIAT casinos and you can withdraw your money in crypto and withdraw it in fiat. It doesn't require as much validation as withdrawing fiat from a crypto casino. I think some crypto casinos still don't require KYC to withdraw your money. Casino sites like Duelbits do not ask for your KYC to withdraw your crypto. I don't know if these regulations will be different in each country. I won several times on sports bets and they didn't ask for KYC verification.

[bakasabo]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

I remember writing a review of a casino where you connect your wallet, approve bet in your wallet and gamble. When he wins, the amount is being transferred to his address. I think this was one of the safest way to gamble, as I see no way gambler can be recognized by a wallet address. Gambler leaves no private information this way. Whole process of gambling looked very alike to using DEX. If there are casinos like this, then there is no wrong way that crypto is heading.

[topbitcoin]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

I remember writing a review of a casino where you connect your wallet, approve bet in your wallet and gamble. When he wins, the amount is being transferred to his address. I think this was one of the safest way to gamble, as I see no way gambler can be recognized by a wallet address. Gambler leaves no private information this way. Whole process of gambling looked very alike to using DEX. If there are casinos like this, then there is no wrong way that crypto is heading.

In the event that you're looking for a web3 gambling platform, then yes it's true that by connecting wallets you can play according to your wishes and also make withdrawals you will also not bother with it, but the most sad for me personally about this is fairness and security, What kind of aspects need to be made a web3 gambling platform does not cheat or fraud on its customers, as well as connecting wallets, if you really want to keep playing it is important for us to use a second or third wallet and never use the main wallet because it can be less secure and the money we have in the wallet can be drained or attacks that can take our money without us knowing.

There are many casinos like this but there are still questions about security and others that make such casinos feasible and secure, I really miss also playing without having to give my personal identity, making deposits and withdrawals when using large funds is not a problem is what I imagine today, anonymity is missed.

[madnessteat]

Cryptocurrency casinos are moving towards full regulation just like basically any other industry that involves money. Whether this is good or bad, everyone decides for themselves, but I am a privacy advocate, so for me it would be better if any casino could be played in without having to go through KYC and not experience the difficulties that sometimes arise for citizens of under-sanctioned countries. In my opinion people far from political life should not suffer from sanctions, but of course politicians do not care much.

[|MINER|]

What I have seen that currently there was no well reputable and well featured casinos in my eyes. And some of catches my attention but they don't have enough features like what on a regular casino. I will not say that there was no casino that followed the non-kyc verification rules but I this they will also a non licensed casino. So depends on you where you will play non-license or licensed.

[entertheabyss]

That's true.

Complying to KYC doesn't mean that they're securing our money but we're just compliant to them and they're also asked by the regulators to do it.

There are also those staff that are taking advantage of their position especially those that have access to their database. Try to test out a new email and register it to any casino, if the data is leak then you'd receive tons of spam emails.

Been anonymous in the system is absolutely not possible because it comes with strict actions, perhapes it can be achieveable. The register will always those that have or acknowledge the significant odds to follow. New days, new rules are implemented and it's our top duties to abide by them. KYC is an important feature when it comes to casinos, it's really been a sector that should be thoroughly checked because a user profile on casino is never complete without verification.

[goaldigger]

What I have seen that currently there was no well reputable and well featured casinos in my eyes. And some of catches my attention but they don't have enough features like what on a regular casino. I will not say that there was no casino that followed the non-kyc verification rules but I this they will also a non licensed casino. So depends on you where you will play non-license or licensed.

Many still preferred a licensed casinos even if they are requiring KYC already and I think, a good casinos will always ask for the KYC because they are being regulated. Being anonymous might only possible for a new casinos and a decentralized casinos though the risk playing with them are high and also not guarantee when it comes to your security. If you want to stay anonymous then you might consider these risk before you gamble with them.

[passwordnow]

No one is truly anonymous if you use crypto to gamble. Yes of course crypto casinos are easier to use than FIAT casinos and you can withdraw your money in crypto and withdraw it in fiat.

If you do that, you're definitely breaking your privacy because you'll take fiat and that's likely through the banks that you also have accounts.

It doesn't require as much validation as withdrawing fiat from a crypto casino. I think some crypto casinos still don't require KYC to withdraw your money. Casino sites like Duelbits do not ask for your KYC to withdraw your crypto.

The same goes for stake, they are not asking for KYC although they'd ask for some certain information for you as a level 1. But you just can fill it up and go on after wards without the need to send IDs for that filling out of information.

I don't know if these regulations will be different in each country. I won several times on sports bets and they didn't ask for KYC verification.

It varies per casino and I don't think that being in a certain country has something to do with that unless they are restricted.

[boyptc]

That's true.

Complying to KYC doesn't mean that they're securing our money but we're just compliant to them and they're also asked by the regulators to do it.

There are also those staff that are taking advantage of their position especially those that have access to their database. Try to test out a new email and register it to any casino, if the data is leak then you'd receive tons of spam emails.

Been anonymous in the system is absolutely not possible because it comes with strict actions, perhapes it can be achieveable. The register will always those that have or acknowledge the significant odds to follow. New days, new rules are implemented and it's our top duties to abide by them. KYC is an important feature when it comes to casinos, it's really been a sector that should be thoroughly checked because a user profile on casino is never complete without verification.

It's also an important matter to the users.

If a casino asks for it then you know that they've been asking that for you to have a higher limits and will be allowed to get into some withdrawals with such amounts.

There are casinos that don't ask for it but might give you a surprise when they ask you to and that's what is annoying to most.

[carlfebz2]

What I have seen that currently there was no well reputable and well featured casinos in my eyes. And some of catches my attention but they don't have enough features like what on a regular casino. I will not say that there was no casino that followed the non-kyc verification rules but I this they will also a non licensed casino. So depends on you where you will play non-license or licensed.

Many still preferred a licensed casinos even if they are requiring KYC already and I think, a good casinos will always ask for the KYC because they are being regulated. Being anonymous might only possible for a new casinos and a decentralized casinos though the risk playing with them are high and also not guarantee when it comes to your security. If you want to stay anonymous then you might consider these risk before you gamble with them.

This is actually true even if we do hate up centralized things but due to have tons of scams in the market then we would really be preferring into those sites which does have licenses on which at least if they would really be tending to become a scam or ran away then we would really be still have the chance on having that recovery or trying to  trace up those scammers not unlike into those platforms that are truly anonymous devs or owners but somehow there are still some sites that are still anonymous until this very moment but still that one of the most trusted and reliable platforms that we do have in the market today.
Yes, it does shows that anonymity isnt something that always be in connected with shady acts that could really be that the common impression by most people in relation to this.

If you dont like on having that kind of centralized feeling then you could always opt in on playing into those dex platforms but i can say that it isnt really something that would
be entertaining or something that would really be enjoyable based up on my experience.

[TopT3ns]

It's also an important matter to the users.

If a casino asks for it then you know that they've been asking that for you to have a higher limits and will be allowed to get into some withdrawals with such amounts.

There are casinos that don't ask for it but might give you a surprise when they ask you to and that's what is annoying to most.

Exactly, Each gambling place has a different policy. We as users must comply with the existing policies, because as far as I know, Some gambling places do not allow money laundering, So when one of the users makes a withdrawal of a very large amount it is possible must complete identity verification first. As long as you can consider this issue well and the results you get are also big enough, I don't think it's a problem if you follow the existing rules and I'm sure your privacy will be protected.

[Smartvirus]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Cryptocurrency users happens to be one of the most concerned persons about their identity and how they let it out to a third party site. This has become a prerequisite about the space and what most gamblers do enjoy in the space.

Unfortunately, KYC has been some need to do requirement by most gambling casinos or sportsbook, it’s either required during the registration, in cases of big wins and cases of irregularities in the activities from your account. As terrifying as it could look to the gamblers, your likely to do that at some point and that’s the more reason why, you should be gambling with a well trusted sportsbook or casino.
Hence, in the event that this is required, you’ll be cool having to provide these KYC documents depending on what’s at stake and should there be no other means.

[TelolettOm]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

This will happen and may still be expected on gambling platforms which incidentally do not require anything like KYC with official ID documents from the government. If it only requires email or other data but doesn't require attaching ID data from the government, then that will be quite meaningful for gamblers who prefer things that are more private. Because after all, privacy is very important, for anyone. Especially when entering the world of gambling, there are most people who definitely prefer privacy, more than others.

For, when we provide our personal data along with photo ID or official data from other governments, it really damages our privacy in online activities. Moreover, we cannot guarantee how safe the data is, there is no 100% guarantee regarding whether it is safe or not. In fact, there is no guarantee that the data is truly safe. This is the importance of privacy.

But unfortunately, not all top gambling platforms have such a high reputation. There are some of them who require a KYC system to know that their users are not in their restricted area. So this can reduce the risk of them being subject to sanctions at some point. This is quite a dilemma. So, whatever it is, again it will depend on each of us, what we will do or choose.

[GigaBit]

Crypto casinos are slowly coming under license because the governments are finding various irregularities of the users, especially the cases of illegal money transfer are gradually increasing. Such events are usually accepted using these crypto platforms. For which government must be taken necessary measures. Crypto casinos are different from fiat casinos. A user has to wait a long time to withdraw from a fiat casino and there are also big hurdles to deposit. But crypto casinos have no such problem. There is no delay in deposits and withdrawals. Moreover, since it is easily accessible from anywhere in the world, users are very interested in crypto casinos. Although crypto platforms have evolved to remain anonymous, it is slowly becoming harder. But it also has some positive sites. An unlicensed casino can steal users' money but a licensed casino platform cannot do.

[boyptc]

It's also an important matter to the users.

If a casino asks for it then you know that they've been asking that for you to have a higher limits and will be allowed to get into some withdrawals with such amounts.

There are casinos that don't ask for it but might give you a surprise when they ask you to and that's what is annoying to most.

Exactly, Each gambling place has a different policy. We as users must comply with the existing policies, because as far as I know, Some gambling places do not allow money laundering, So when one of the users makes a withdrawal of a very large amount it is possible must complete identity verification first. As long as you can consider this issue well and the results you get are also big enough, I don't think it's a problem if you follow the existing rules and I'm sure your privacy will be protected.

If we can't take their policy for asking additional requirements like for their KYC then all you have to do is not to make it on them.

Try to find a better one that's going to give you no pressure at all because you're totally fine with them and you'd just gamble without any thinking that you might be asked for kyc later.

But with such centralized casinos nowadays, it's almost not achievable.

[Aniel Jay]

Achieving complete anonymity in cryptocurrency gambling is challenging due to the public nature of blockchain transactions. While some cryptocurrencies prioritize privacy features, achieving absolute anonymity depends on various factors including the specific cryptocurrency used, the platform's implementation of privacy measures, and external factors like regulatory scrutiny.

[Maslate]

Achieving complete anonymity in cryptocurrency gambling is challenging due to the public nature of blockchain transactions. While some cryptocurrencies prioritize privacy features, achieving absolute anonymity depends on various factors including the specific cryptocurrency used, the platform's implementation of privacy measures, and external factors like regulatory scrutiny.

It was the regulatory factor that kills anonymity. Because even if the blockchain is public, no one would have an idea who are the users of the transactions in the blockchain, but once you got into the KYC requirement of either a casino or exchange, it would be easier for the government to link transactions to you as they have the power to inquire information and direct the platforms that they regulated to comply.

[slapper]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

This will happen and may still be expected on gambling platforms which incidentally do not require anything like KYC with official ID documents from the government. If it only requires email or other data but doesn't require attaching ID data from the government, then that will be quite meaningful for gamblers who prefer things that are more private. Because after all, privacy is very important, for anyone. Especially when entering the world of gambling, there are most people who definitely prefer privacy, more than others.

For, when we provide our personal data along with photo ID or official data from other governments, it really damages our privacy in online activities. Moreover, we cannot guarantee how safe the data is, there is no 100% guarantee regarding whether it is safe or not. In fact, there is no guarantee that the data is truly safe. This is the importance of privacy.

But unfortunately, not all top gambling platforms have such a high reputation. There are some of them who require a KYC system to know that their users are not in their restricted area. So this can reduce the risk of them being subject to sanctions at some point. This is quite a dilemma. So, whatever it is, again it will depend on each of us, what we will do or choose.

Gamblers cherish internet anonymity. And that makes sense. We're tracked online, so where are your actions not a commodity? That matters. Especially in high-stakes games

KYC seems fair. Stops money laundering and maintains transparency, but at a high cost. It removes anonymity.  Every aspect of your life is a data point to be purchased, sold, and evaluated. Once you gamble, you're investigated

That's the issue. Big, trusted sites almost require KYC. Partially for safety, partially to please governments. But it’s a move for greater control. In addition to playing, you're a well-organized profile. Do you comply? Lose a degree of freedom? Or go for riskier, unregulated spaces?  No simple answer exists, and it's not about morality but what you're willing to sacrifice. Because it's not niche. It symbolizes the digital world's privacy crisis

[tyz]

Crypto casinos are slowly coming under license because the governments are finding various irregularities of the users, especially the cases of illegal money transfer are gradually increasing. Such events are usually accepted using these crypto platforms. For which government must be taken necessary measures. Crypto casinos are different from fiat casinos. A user has to wait a long time to withdraw from a fiat casino and there are also big hurdles to deposit. But crypto casinos have no such problem. There is no delay in deposits and withdrawals. Moreover, since it is easily accessible from anywhere in the world, users are very interested in crypto casinos. Although crypto platforms have evolved to remain anonymous, it is slowly becoming harder. But it also has some positive sites. An unlicensed casino can steal users' money but a licensed casino platform cannot do.

Well, governments are rightfully concerned about irregularities and illegal money transfers, prompting the need for necessary measures. While crypto casinos offer faster transactions and global accessibility compared to fiat casinos, the anonymity they provide can be a double-edged sword.
As they transition towards regulation, the focus should be on maintaining security and fairness for users, while also ensuring compliance with legal and financial regulations. The evolution of crypto casinos will require a delicate balance between innovation and accountability to create a safer and more transparent gambling environment.

[Cookdata]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

I still remembered the time I joined this forum, there was this campaign of "Not your keys, not your coins" that was been voluntarily promoted on this forum, it became my personal text till date and that was because of decentralization moves but it seems all have been forgotten, as in people don't even care about it any more, the centralized exchanges keep winning everytime.

Decentralized casino wouldn't strive properly because of some reasons and here are the ones I have with me:

-Government regulation: AML is one of the factor government allow people to use crypto, any company that is involved in crypto and doesn't Take KYC serious will be an enemy of the government, this is why casino without KYC will not work under the watch of government.

-Normalize traditional casino are everywhere, many gamblers are used to the traditional casino, crypto is just their way of funding but don't really care about any other benefits like privacy or any decentralization, they just want to win and double their crypto, they don't care and since casino are after money, they will always give priority to where there is money.

East to use: Most centralized casino has an easy features which ofcourse comes with a risk but they don't care about all of that, what matters to them is ease of use and make more wins.

You can see that, it will be difficult to see decentralized casinos around here.

[Viscore]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

I still remembered the time I joined this forum, there was this campaign of "Not your keys, not your coins" that was been voluntarily promoted on this forum, it became my personal text till date and that was because of decentralization moves but it seems all have been forgotten, as in people don't even care about it any more, the centralized exchanges keep winning everytime.

Decentralized casino wouldn't strive properly because of some reasons and here are the ones I have with me:

-Government regulation: AML is one of the factor government allow people to use crypto, any company that is involved in crypto and doesn't Take KYC serious will be an enemy of the government, this is why casino without KYC will not work under the watch of government.

-Normalize traditional casino are everywhere, many gamblers are used to the traditional casino, crypto is just their way of funding but don't really care about any other benefits like privacy or any decentralization, they just want to win and double their crypto, they don't care and since casino are after money, they will always give priority to where there is money.

East to use: Most centralized casino has an easy features which ofcourse comes with a risk but they don't care about all of that, what matters to them is ease of use and make more wins.

You can see that, it will be difficult to see decentralized casinos around here.

All that is written are probably some of the reasons why centralized casinos still wins every time.

However, let's look at this way, when crypto existed, it was promoted because it could give us anonymity, it was new to use, hard to typical person but we are able to learn on how to use it because we like to achieve the ultimate privacy which was its purpose. Things are doing great until time has come that bitcoin gets more popular and it has been notice by the government or regulators, and that they started to regulate it.

If they can ban it, they would, but they'll not gain anything from it so they just regulate it.

The factors you've mentioned like we got used to  "traditional casino and Most centralized casino has an easy features " is a non factor if the government did not infectere as eventually we will learn since anonymity is what we are after of.

[decodx]

All that is written are probably some of the reasons why centralized casinos still wins every time.

However, let's look at this way, when crypto existed, it was promoted because it could give us anonymity, it was new to use, hard to typical person but we are able to learn on how to use it because we like to achieve the ultimate privacy which was its purpose. Things are doing great until time has come that bitcoin gets more popular and it has been notice by the government or regulators, and that they started to regulate it.

If they can ban it, they would, but they'll not gain anything from it so they just regulate it.

That's a fair point, but we gotta look at the other side here too.  Anonymity was a big draw for crypto initially, yes. But that's shaping up to be a double-edged sword in some ways. The way I see it - if crypto's really gonna go mainstream someday, it needs at least some basic guardrails and structure to build more trust and transparency with the public and get taken seriously alongside traditional finance.  It's not always about black and white, banning or complete freedom.

[dezoel]

The taste of the people won't change if only crypto stays the same but no because regulation are taking over eventually and that is the start for us to see a centralized exchange and later on they now require a KYC. Unfortunately the same thing occurs in the gambling sector. It's like a double-edge sword because it may give us an extra protection but at the same time removes our privacy.

I think it's not a big deal in the gambling scene because if we think about it, we are also gambling outside before but it's only a big deal in terms of using a crypto as a currency because this is not their original idea. Still, a lot of us are now used to this and there are still some decentralized services that are left that we can use if we don't want to adopt these new changes in the system.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that things with crypto when you want to be anonymous, the main thing of all is that they have to be very willing to accept privacy coins, but until now no exchange, no casino has had that power to say that they accept Monero, I think that with Monero it is enough to do things well, but notice that even Binance took out , Delisted Monero from its Ranks, so it is only visible in the wallets, Darkweb, and this is enough for privacy and anonymity to re-emerge , Obviously , when casinos like this come out they will not ask for KYC, and this will be very good. Personally, I don't know what consequences it could bring to the site if it does something like that, Although I would give it a lot of credit for daring to do things like that, not just any He takes a risk and does it, for me it would be a very good thing, obviously it would not have Regulations or Usual Licenses, but I say that if the casino is honest and complies, then it is not bad, even if it does not meet certain Requirements , and with such Don't let it be a scam, well Everything is fine.

[EarnOnVictor]

What I have seen that currently there was no well reputable and well featured casinos in my eyes. And some of catches my attention but they don't have enough features like what on a regular casino. I will not say that there was no casino that followed the non-kyc verification rules but I this they will also a non licensed casino. So depends on you where you will play non-license or licensed.

Many still preferred a licensed casinos even if they are requiring KYC already and I think, a good casinos will always ask for the KYC because they are being regulated. Being anonymous might only possible for a new casinos and a decentralized casinos though the risk playing with them are high and also not guarantee when it comes to your security. If you want to stay anonymous then you might consider these risk before you gamble with them.

I think it's high time we perish the idea of wanting anonymity when we are dealing with a third-party company, which is the casino in this case. Nothing is anonymous in that anymore whether we like it or not, unless we decide to deceive ourselves simply because we are dealing with cryptocurrency. The transaction we are completing to and fro are being aware by a third-party casino so long as it is not us and our wallets alone. Is that what they call anonymity?

KYC aside, though it is another means to know us better, but no matter what we transact with a third party whether KYC is involved or not, such are known and they are no longer hidden as people widely believe. Again, till today, people are still dealing with no-KYC casinos, some of which are said to be trusted, so it is not all of them that are so bad to be afraid of. Just as it is not all KYC casinos that are trustworthy regardless of whether they are duly registered and regulated. Needless to say that many of the so-called KYC casinos are licences where regulation is weak, so that can't exonerate many of them. They mostly use that to cover up.

[Casdinyard]

Crypto has been known for anonymity. During the early stage, we like to promote it using the words "decentralized" and "anonymous ", and it's the main reason why a lot of gamblers have chosen to gamble using crypto to gain full privacy, but it seems like things have really change a lot now as gamblers are looking for a casino that are licensed while some casinos who promotes anonymous gambling eventually act like a fiat casino that requires KYC.

What do you think about this one, where is are we heading? And can we still consider crypto casino different from fiat casino?

Long as the casino you're playing with isn't using your information to peddle ad-sense and information brokers on the internet, you can always count on crypto casinos to really take care of your information and protect your anonymity. Sites like Stake and Duelbits do their shit at the utmost level to make sure that no one's getting a hold of your information, despite them being KYC-prerequisite casinos. Personally, the risk of playing with a scam casino in the search of a casino that doesn't use KYC severely outweighs the risk of getting my information brokered when we're literally in the age of access where you're one facebook profile search away, So I don't really go out there making it a problem that most crypto casinos nowadays require KYC.

At the end of the day, we all want to gamble safely and be fairly compensated for wins that we're bagging, in search of a No-KYC crypto casino you just might stumble upon shady platforms that are made to lure you in with the promise of fast withdrawals and no-KYC, then next thing you know, you're banned in their casino without you even knowing the reason why, and by then you can safely assume you're fucked royally. Would you really choose that over just jotting your personal info for a few mins, when you pretty much do the same thing every day?