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March 29, 2014, 11:51:12 PM
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Hi all!
I am the official representative of Fritwallet startup team.
Fruitwallet is web based ios Bitcoin wallet with hardware level security. Here is our development thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516824.0
Website link is https://fruitwallet.com/
To enter the app go to the same link from your mobile Safari browser.

Today I tried to introduce wallet at IRC and was banned for SCAM. Just without any fair reason.
So I decided to create this topic to answer all questions that might appear.

UPDATE:
we have small demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhZ6GdEPhys
we added LTC.


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March 30, 2014, 12:05:32 AM
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First question: How do I send you all my money?  Do you have a bitcoin address I can send to?  I like shortcuts.

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March 30, 2014, 12:15:08 AM
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First question: How do I send you all my money?  Do you have a bitcoin address I can send to?  I like shortcuts.

Hi. All btc are stored in our wallet.
It has a lot of addresses: for all customers, for change that comes from dividing transactions and so on.

What do you mean send all your money? You can create a wallet at fruitwallet and store as much as you need for you pocket expenses.
Sure I have bitcoin address, why do you need to send me money? Smiley

Which shortcuts do you mean? screenshots? or ios home screen shortcut? but nice to hear anyway.

P.S. not sure if I got you right.
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March 30, 2014, 01:00:35 AM
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Where did the name fruit come from?

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March 30, 2014, 01:04:01 AM
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We just generated that. We think it is somehow can be associated with something fresh, new, sunny. Also it can be associated with ios/Apple if look deeper into imagination.
Don't you like?
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March 30, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
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We just generated that. We think it is somehow can be associated with something fresh, new, sunny. Also it can be associated with ios/Apple if look deeper into imagination.
Don't you like?
I am very fond of fresh things, and I support it.

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March 30, 2014, 01:45:01 AM
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First question: How do I send you all my money?  Do you have a bitcoin address I can send to?  I like shortcuts.

Hi. All btc are stored in our wallet.
It has a lot of addresses: for all customers, for change that comes from dividing transactions and so on.

What do you mean send all your money? You can create a wallet at fruitwallet and store as much as you need for you pocket expenses.
Sure I have bitcoin address, why do you need to send me money? Smiley

Which shortcuts do you mean? screenshots? or ios home screen shortcut? but nice to hear anyway.

P.S. not sure if I got you right.



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March 30, 2014, 04:46:32 AM
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March 30, 2014, 04:50:29 AM
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Let's give OP benefit of the doubt and assume they are honest.

The question then becomes, is this kind of app a good idea?
Why keep the coins online?  Why not just have the app itself
Store the private keys locally?

To me, best way is provide open source code so community
Can verify security.

Hopefully you can monetize the effort with mobile ads.

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March 30, 2014, 04:57:23 AM
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i prefer an app that does not save privkeys.

users simply input the privkey and all the app does is balance check/display. and makes a signed transaction with the key. (in the script stored on the phone or javascript on the local machine.

the only data that is sent to the internet is the signed transaction.

users can then input their privkeys locally, put the next paper wallet public key for the change to go to and the address for the spend to go to..

a simple local hosted transaction maker with a signed transaction post at the end.

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March 30, 2014, 04:58:56 AM
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i prefer an app that does not save privkeys.

users simply input the privkey and all the app does is balance check/display. and makes a signed transaction with the key. (in the script stored on the phone or javascript on the local machine.

the only data that is sent to the internet is the signed transaction.

users can then input their privkeys locally, put the next paper wallet public key for the change to go to and the address for the spend to go to..

a simple local hosted transaction maker with a signed transaction post at the end.

All well and good but how are they supposed to input the key?

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All well and good but how are they supposed to input the key?

my privkey is a qr code, a text document and a wallet backup.

lets say i know in one paper wallet i have 2btc for instance

instead of typing in a username and password. i type in / scan my privkey.

i then type in/scan the public key of who i want to send 1BTC to
i then type in/scan the public key of a new fresh paper wallet address i want for the 1BTC change.

and the local script makes the signed TX (never saving the privkey) and posts only the signed transaction to a couple pool PUSHTX API's  


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March 30, 2014, 05:23:27 AM
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All well and good but how are they supposed to input the key?

my privkey is a qr code, a text document and a wallet backup.

lets say i know in one paper wallet i have 2btc for instance

instead of typing in a username and password. i type in / scan my privkey.

i then type in/scan the public key of who i want to send 1BTC to
i then type in/scan the public key of a new fresh paper wallet address i want for the 1BTC change.

and the local script makes the signed TX (never saving the privkey) and posts only the signed transaction to a couple pool PUSHTX API's  



Good thoughts...  But how do we make it user friendly.  Where do you scan the qr code from?
If the code is already on the phone , why not just let the app access it when it needs to?

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March 30, 2014, 08:24:46 AM
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Nothing to answer from my side.
We are honest and we will not rob anybody.
We wont give you your keys as well as bank does not give you gold instead of your money, just for you to feel safe.

There are 2 reasons:
1. It will make additional difficulties for user, want to have difficulties? Search for ios solution with keys, there are some hacky ways to install one.
2. Storing keys on your ios device is also risky. Somebody can steal your private key which you're supposed to take with you in written. franky1, dont you think?

Btw, none of the guys who are telling about secure keys even tried the fruitwallet. Why do you think you can feedback our service without trying it?

Franky1, pls register at fruitwallet. I'll send you some btc on your wallet for you to test. You'll see that this service is great even without having keys.
Want you guys me to give you my credentials at fruitwallet?
You can try to withdraw my money if you think keys are needed to protect coins...
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March 30, 2014, 08:49:03 AM
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We are honest and we will not rob anybody.

Phew. I'm glad you cleared that up... now where do I send all my money?
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March 30, 2014, 08:50:30 AM
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I will try out this wallet.


 
 
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March 30, 2014, 08:50:41 AM
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Nothing to answer from my side.
We are honest and we will not rob anybody.
We wont give you your keys as well as bank does not give you gold instead of your money, just for you to feel safe.

There are 2 reasons:
1. It will make additional difficulties for user, want to have difficulties? Search for ios solution with keys, there are some hacky ways to install one.
2. Storing keys on your ios device is also risky. Somebody can steal your private key which you're supposed to take with you in written. franky1, dont you think?

Btw, none of the guys who are telling about secure keys even tried the fruitwallet. Why do you think you can feedback our service without trying it?

Franky1, pls register at fruitwallet. I'll send you some btc on your wallet for you to test. You'll see that this service is great even without having keys.
Want you guys me to give you my credentials at fruitwallet? you can try to steal my money Smiley

I'll register and help out too since there's a chance to get free btc.
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March 30, 2014, 08:57:37 AM
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I'll register and help out too since there's a chance to get free btc.

I don't want free BTC become you main goal to try out the wallet Smiley But I will if you have none to try.
Want me to give my credentials to fruitwallet? Like a demo account?

We are honest and we will not rob anybody.

Phew. I'm glad you cleared that up... now where do I send all my money?

Send it too hungry people if Asia or Africa. Are you asking my advice? I usually donate to Orphans.
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March 30, 2014, 09:36:33 AM
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I'll register and help out too since there's a chance to get free btc.

I don't want free BTC become you main goal to try out the wallet Smiley But I will if you have none to try.
Want me to give my credentials to fruitwallet? Like a demo account?

We are honest and we will not rob anybody.

Phew. I'm glad you cleared that up... now where do I send all my money?

Send it too hungry people if Asia or Africa. Are you asking my advice? I usually donate to Orphans.
wait what? let me install the app
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March 30, 2014, 09:45:14 AM
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wait what? let me install the app

This does not need installation, but okay.
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