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April 02, 2024, 04:33:58 PM
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- Knowledge is a must, teach them about probability and how the house edge works.
- If you find them gambling, discipline beat them if their age is still suitable for belting and stuff.
- If they are already addicted to gambling, seek professional help.
- If nothing works, kick them out.

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April 02, 2024, 04:36:00 PM
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Is there anything that can be done to protect children from gambling with reference to physical shops that they see everyday?
Nothing can be done really, but it's not because the children know they would be in serious 'pot of soup ' literally, if they get caught by their parents or guardian or someone who knows them and know they shouldn't be there, but because they know their age wouldn't allow them, their knowledge of how to play the bet is often skewed, but if they insist, then the owners of the bet shops or gambling houses knows better than to allow children indulge in such habits unless they are orphans, lack child support or are members of street gangs and cults.

Indeed, children who are underage and still have access to gambling can be really vulnerable to dangers. Casinos and other gambling establishments should know better than to allow minors indulge in gambling activities but this isn't solely the responsibility of the casino or the gambling establishment owners to tackle kids who choose to gamble, the parents of the children or minors also have a vital role to play in detecting signs of gambling or gambling addiction in their kids and do something to help them before it gets out of hand and become a real problem for them and their relatives around them.

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April 02, 2024, 04:38:34 PM
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My worries was increased by the fact that there are physical casinos and betting shops(as they are called in my town) in many streets with big signboards. Children passes these places and some parents do stop by with their children to place a quick bet. Is there anything that can be done to protect children from gambling with reference to physical shops that they see everyday?
Physical shops are never a problem to child gambling, because inasmuch as these betting shops are common this day, they are have strict rules to allowing only people above the age of 18years, which has always been the same to online casinos. Hence, judging from the scenerio you just explained above, I think the best and only way to stop children from picking interest in gambling is for parents to stop carrying their kids along while going to gamble, because though this may seem normal, it does have a phycological effect (i.e of want) it stimulates in the heads of these kids whenever they see their parents gambling. Hence, the best solution is to stop exposing them to gambling, be it physical or digital.

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April 02, 2024, 04:47:41 PM
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Theorically, it is within the responsibilities of parents to educate their children and keep an eye on them, so they won't be victim of their own curiosity and start gambling within being aware of what they implications are for them and also for their future (economically speaking).
I can relate to the problem you are talking about because many people ignore that in many developing countries laws against bet shops and casinos providing services to minors are not enforced by police or authorities whatsoever, either because local corruption or because it is perceived not as a problem by police. So it is up only to parents to safeguard their children from all those advertisement billboards on the streets and on internet.
They are two approaches to take as a parent, either to hide gambling completely from children or educate them and break the taboo, so they understand from their childhood that gambling is not a piece of money and it could actually hurt them emotionally.

Children are smarter than their parents assume they are, ironically, so even if they tried to hide gambling from them, children will allow their curiosity to guide them.

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April 02, 2024, 04:55:46 PM
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They will always find a way to have access on gmbling platforms if they would want to. Best thing is to be a guidance to them and to set a morale that gambling could yield to worse situations. They might be aware of it but everyone needs a reminder from time to time until they possess the initiative of not doing so. Have them watched shows, I believe it is also a primary source of learning for children at a young age. You may also limit their access to money and funds that would allow them to bet. Be on watch as well with your child's friends. There are many ways and the goal should be to keep away their interest in this activity. Also, invest time knowing when did they started gambling and where did they learn about it.
My worries was increased by the fact that there are physical casinos and betting shops(as they are called in my town) in many streets with big signboards. Children passes these places and some parents do stop by with their children to place a quick bet. Is there anything that can be done to protect children from gambling with reference to physical shops that they see everyday?
Physical shops are never a problem to child gambling, because inasmuch as these betting shops are common this day, they are have strict rules to allowing only people above the age of 18years, which has always been the same to online casinos. Hence, judging from the scenerio you just explained above, I think the best and only way to stop children from picking interest in gambling is for parents to stop carrying their kids along while going to gamble, because though this may seem normal, it does have a phycological effect (i.e of want) it stimulates in the heads of these kids whenever they see their parents gambling. Hence, the best solution is to stop exposing them to gambling, be it physical or digital.
You may also block the common gambling sites they are engaging themselves with. Have them supervised as much as possible to be on watch of the things they enjoy; correction of behavior will then be implemented.

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April 02, 2024, 04:59:12 PM
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Not all children will fully follow their parents' character, let alone their habits, so there's nothing you need to worry about either, it seems like your country is free and illegal, unlike my country, all offline gambling, such as shops, are not allowed to operate, let alone online gambling here, so still Children can still play online gambling, especially in your country where it is free and legal, of course it will be very easy for children there to try gambling, but again, every child has a different curiosity.

As parents we cannot forbid children to avoid gambling because basically whatever we prevent cannot necessarily prevent them from gambling, for example they can learn it from the internet or from their friends who play with them, so we cannot hide anything or forbid them, especially in countries where it is legal obviously it will be very difficult because they can still find gambling shops everywhere, the best advice is to explain about gambling when they ask what gambling is, so that when we explain it for sure they are very satisfied with the answer and don't want to find out let alone trying to play it.  Wink

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April 02, 2024, 04:59:57 PM
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Gambling is definitely not good for children, that is why there is age limitation in virtually all casinos. Unfortunately, children are becoming too smart and inquisitive, so I was just thinking about the possibilities of protecting children from getting involved in gambling. My worries was increased by the fact that there are physical casinos and betting shops(as they are called in my town) in many streets with big signboards. Children passes these places and some parents do stop by with their children to place a quick bet. Is there anything that can be done to protect children from gambling with reference to physical shops that they see everyday?
Children don't go to physical shops to play bet, bet agents don't even give them that privilege to go close to their shops not to talk of entering inside to play a bet. You cannot stop the company from having physical shops because of children. and even if the children go online, most bet companies make your 18+ before they allow you register on their site, with proven ID Cards. Why would a parent even go to a betting shop with his child, that's wrong, the correction should be on the side of the parents not go with their children to a betting shop, because as a parent you must set a standard and protect your children from going into gambling at an early age, and don't play gamble in front of them.

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Simple, all sites require (KYC) before they can play.

However, most casinos do not provide these. Because user don't like being ask by KYC, the only things in online we can do for verified the age is always based ask the KYC in front before they actually can access the website.

Make the website cannot being access after the register before the KYC is passed.

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April 02, 2024, 05:14:44 PM
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- Knowledge is a must, teach them about probability and how the house edge works.
- If you find them gambling, discipline beat them if their age is still suitable for belting and stuff.
- If they are already addicted to gambling, seek professional help.
- If nothing works, kick them out.

Just make sure no social worker, or neighbor sees you doing it because in many countries they will take your children away. I've heard that in the EU, especially Sweden and the Nederlands if someone finds out you hit your child even once you'll get the police knocking on your door.  For the record, I don't beat mine, but I do shout and threaten them at times with a TV or sweets ban because there's no other way of getting to that little brain of theirs.

The best way to stop children from gambling at early age is to set a clear age rule and not even allow them to step in the door of a casino, but stopping children from gambling online is more of  job for the parents.

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April 02, 2024, 05:19:43 PM
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90% of the job falls on the parents.
The remaining 10% is our responsibility, meaning that when we witness children under the age of eighteen gambling in a gambling house, we should warn them and get them out of there. We should also exercise caution when discussing our gambling successes and losses in front of children, as doing so without minding may encourage them to place a wager and experience winnings or losses of their own in the future. Finally, we shouldn't let the kids know how to interpret gambling ticket bets or accompany us to a gambling house.

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April 02, 2024, 05:19:59 PM
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Simple, all sites require (KYC) before they can play.

However, most casinos do not provide these. Because user don't like being ask by KYC, the only things in online we can do for verified the age is always based ask the KYC in front before they actually can access the website.

Make the website cannot being access after the register before the KYC is passed.
That's actually the case, gamblers do not like to undergo the KYC process. Gambling sites with KYC most likely be avoided by a lot of gamblers, this is not to hide their age, but it is to maintain anonymity. However, to simply verify the age of the users before they can access the website, children can simply deceive the website by entering an incorrect age. There's no way to remove their access this way until the website verifies the true age of the user.


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April 02, 2024, 05:25:41 PM
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I think the big responsibility here goes on parents first because they are the ones who are placed to educate their children on what it is good and what is bad. We all know that gambling is considered as a bad habit since it has a lot of negative sides such as addiction.

Because of the Internet, we can say that it is inevitable for someone to not face any of those casinos ads especially if you have a very smart and curious child. So it is necessary that you educate your child and supervise his network activities, because even if some casinos require a significant age to enter we all know that this option is easy to zap and our generation is getting smarter especially when it comes to the new technologies. When it comes to physical casinos and betting places as you mentioned,  I don't think they let children go in especially if they are not with a company of an adult person. It is important to educate your children about the risks that comes with gambling and to set rules that they should follow to know that there are boundaries and structures to follow and explain the consequences of breaking those rules. Most importantly be a good example for your kids, show them what how a real good behaviour with money should be and keep communicating with you children, make them comfortable to talk about any concern or subject and try to make them discover an activities they can occupy themselves with instead of going into a toxic environment such as gambling world.


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April 02, 2024, 05:37:05 PM
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support and become more close to their children can be a way to prevent children to gamble. support can provide motivation and a positive mentality to children. The more time spent with parents, the more indirectly parents can prevent children from other activities, including gambling. However, if it is discovered that a child is gambling, parents should start providing more supervision over the child, including finances. Indeed, gambling is not because parents are negligent, but it arises from their own desires. However, being together with children can minimize this.
This is completely the fault of parents as well as the government, because these are physical casinos or betting shops just like any other business and it's just that the government does not implement strict regulations that strictly prohibit minors. And also the prohibition on making large signboards on every gambling shop which in my opinion is too conspicuous is also very important, where it is better to use another name that adults know is a gambling shop.
Apart from that, parents also play a role in not inviting their children when they want to gamble and perhaps because of this there are no regulations from the government that allow parents to freely take their children to casino shops which is actually a big mistake.
And for online casinos, in my opinion, there is no solution yet because minors can do it in various ways, including KYC which can be manipulated. And for this problem, in my opinion, only parents can play a role in this problem, they must be given understanding and also prohibit that online gambling is not good. And always control when your child holds the gadget and checks it, as well as blocking all gambling sites on the gadget, and many other ways.

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April 02, 2024, 05:38:11 PM
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Gambling is definitely not good for children, that is why there is age limitation in virtually all casinos. Unfortunately, children are becoming too smart and inquisitive, so I was just thinking about the possibilities of protecting children from getting involved in gambling. My worries was increased by the fact that there are physical casinos and betting shops(as they are called in my town) in many streets with big signboards. Children passes these places and some parents do stop by with their children to place a quick bet. Is there anything that can be done to protect children from gambling with reference to physical shops that they see everyday?

there's nothing we can do if they see big signage on the streets because that's part of the business, advertising. As a parent, the way I can think of to prevent young people from getting involved in gambling is that while they are still children, they should be given enough knowledge or a little background on what the things they read on the signage are for, since we know how curious young people are today and so that they don't reach the point where they want to try it because they are curious, let's go ahead of them by giving them an idea of ​​what it is because we can't control what they can see or know, all we can do is properly teach and guide them.



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April 02, 2024, 05:47:39 PM
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Parents play an important role in the supervision of children to avoid addiction, then the rules of physical casinos must also be tightened maybe it will be stronger if the government supports where when parents bring children to physical casinos for fast bets then they cannot bring children but if physical casinos do not make strict rules then they are sure they just want more visitors no matter parents bring children or not.

Back to individuals who have a parental role in their children, if I myself am clear that I will avoid, while there are still many people who do not care about this.

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April 02, 2024, 06:03:03 PM
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Just make sure no social worker, or neighbor sees you doing it because in many countries they will take your children away. I've heard that in the EU, especially Sweden and the Nederlands if someone finds out you hit your child even once you'll get the police knocking on your door.  For the record, I don't beat mine, but I do shout and threaten them at times with a TV or sweets ban because there's no other way of getting to that little brain of theirs.
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April 02, 2024, 06:08:01 PM
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I must confess that is a difficult thing say because we can't control this from them, especially when their parents can't even control themselves while they are with their kids. Sometimes we felt they don't know or take records of what we are doing, they are surly taking records probably they can start gambling secretly when the finance needed gets to their hands. There are kids under 15 that has started gambling in the village where I think things are much more difficult for them and they don't have any other alternatives than to just join themselves into all kinds of hustling that could make them secure some money, and these sets of kids are too smart enough and we can't actually stops them when this feeling of gambling has taken over them. For instance, if they managed to see winning for like 2 to 4 consecutive times this will triggered their interest to keep gambling with the hope that everyday is certainly winning for them.

To stop this is to actually meet the village crier who goes around the village giving information to restrict some under age children who are gambling, with this they can enact a law to governed them that any agent who allows under age chldren to gamble will pay some specific 'fine' (ransome) to allow under age bet. With this they would like the children, because I know no casino would allow children play without passing KYC which they must provide before either withdrawing their funds or placing games.

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April 03, 2024, 09:22:02 AM
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Gambling is definitely not good for children, that is why there is age limitation in virtually all casinos. Unfortunately, children are becoming too smart and inquisitive, so I was just thinking about the possibilities of protecting children from getting involved in gambling. My worries was increased by the fact that there are physical casinos and betting shops(as they are called in my town) in many streets with big signboards. Children passes these places and some parents do stop by with their children to place a quick bet. Is there anything that can be done to protect children from gambling with reference to physical shops that they see everyday?
Awareness of parents as role models plays an important role in this matter, as parents must guide and direct their children to good environment and avoid various activities that could have bad impact.
Even though there are many physical gambling places in the environment and also lot of online gambling advertising that can be seen on social media, it will never affect children if parents can provide extra education and supervision to their children.
But from what you have said, it is very unfortunate and incidents like this have happened lot, many parents even deliberately tell their children to go to betting shops to buy lottery tickets or place bets.
It is the fault of parents who do not consider and think about child growth and development, if something like this continues then the chances of children starting to know and dare to gamble will increase significantly.

Only way is to provide education and really supervise and limit exposure to environments that can attract children to gambling.
But this will require lot of time and the majority of parents cannot do it due to work reasons.

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April 03, 2024, 02:55:03 PM
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Isn't that the job of the local authorities in your town?  You can always get the attention of the authorities in your town and tell them what's happening in those bet shops. If they are not taking some action then there really is a need to call for morality in those officials.
Could be that the authorities are less concerned about taking such matters seriously as it should and have now made it a core responsibility of parents rather than the government as an authority to do that. Although, there are gambling shops that rebukes parents that takes kids with them to their shops, they even bar the kid from entering and either sit outside wait for his/her gambling parent.

I have seen parent's coming to the gamble shop's with their underage kids and it's irksome to me when I see them doing that but on the contrary I just give a blind eye under the thought that it's not my business how they chose to groom their kids. Except in the case of those I am close I just politely talk to them about the harm and negative impact it could possibly be on their kid seeing that they embrace parents as role model to them.

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April 03, 2024, 06:20:52 PM
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Awareness of parents as role models plays an important role in this matter, as parents must guide and direct their children to good environment and avoid various activities that could have bad impact.
Even though there are many physical gambling places in the environment and also lot of online gambling advertising that can be seen on social media, it will never affect children if parents can provide extra education and supervision to their children.
But from what you have said, it is very unfortunate and incidents like this have happened lot, many parents even deliberately tell their children to go to betting shops to buy lottery tickets or place bets.
It is the fault of parents who do not consider and think about child growth and development, if something like this continues then the chances of children starting to know and dare to gamble will increase significantly.

Only way is to provide education and really supervise and limit exposure to environments that can attract children to gambling.
But this will require lot of time and the majority of parents cannot do it due to work reasons.

I agree with you friend. because of course it is clear that parents will definitely educate their children on the right things, it is impossible for them to direct their children to something that will have a bad impact in the future, such as introducing them to gambling, which I think is impossible. But are there parents who introduce their children to gambling clearly?
It's true that if this really exists, I think it's terrible, because it could ruin a child's future, even if he or she is only told to go to a betting shop to buy a lottery ticket or place a bet, it can make them interested in taking part in gambling. and of course this can have an impact on their child's future.

That's right, parents have to give extra supervision to their children in getting to know the environment, especially now that children are no stranger to gadgets and the internet where there are lots of gambling advertisements clearly displayed which they can see every once in a while, but indeed parents also definitely have their own lives include having to go to work, so they cannot fully supervise their children 24 hours a day. but if their initial upbringing is correct, perhaps their children will not do anything rash.

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