Understanding the Legality and Myth of Card Counting in Blackjack

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btc_angela:

Quote from: FortuneFollower on April 10, 2024, 09:38:09 PM
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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 05, 2024, 07:08:09 PM
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I have learned that card counting is legal in blackjack but casinos frown at it. Most casinos have a surveillance camera that watch each table to catch a player who caught counting cards. A player may be thrown out or banned from the casino if caught counting cards because there is a belief that it gives the player an edge. How true is this or this a myth? If for instance card counting is legal in the UK but outlawed by casinos doesn't it makes it illegal?

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Think of casinos as those high school parties where the hosts have the final say on the guest list. Just as you’re getting into the groove, counting cards like you’re flipping through a mental Rolodex, the casino’s eagle-eyed bouncers (aka surveillance cameras) are on the lookout.
So, while card counting in places like the UK isn’t against the law (you won’t be doing the walk of shame past Monopoly’s Go to Jail square), casinos act like those mythical creatures who guard treasures.
They have a “you shall not pass” attitude towards card counters, not because it’s illegal, but because you’re outsmarting the house at its own game.

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And casino's doesn't want you to outsmart them. And if I'm not mistaken, they shared the pictures or image of this card counters so that they can recognized them once they step inside the casinos.

From the videos that I watch, card counters are also at a look out, when they see pit bosses like on the phone and talking to someone, they will have to back it off and if they are lucky, they can exchange their winnings before being escorted out.

Davidvictorson:

Quote from: Sunderland on April 10, 2024, 05:29:16 PM
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Yeah Rain Man is a very good movie considering there are not many good movies about gambling that are actually good.
You can also watch the movie "21" the story about counting cards by MIT students led by their professor who has a plan to loot some casinos in Vegas.
And it is said that this movie is actually based on a true story of a group of MIT students running a card counting operation every weekend in Vegas.

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This movie recommendation was awesome. I absolutely love it. Yeah, I'd give the movie a 7/10 ratings. Fun Fact: Did you know the movie was based on a book - Bringing Down the House: The Inside Story of Six MIT Students Who Took Vegas for Millions by Ben Mezrich. After watching the movie, it makes me want to go to Las Vags, visit one of its casinos and play Blackjack.

Does anyone have any other Blackjack movie recommendation for me?

Wapfika:

Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 05, 2024, 07:08:09 PM
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How true is this or this a myth? If for instance card counting is legal in the UK but outlawed by casinos doesn't it makes it illegal?

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There’s a mathematical evidence that card counting is effective for a regular card decks without a continuous shuffling feature in the casino since the number of cards is determined. Card counts involves counting both high cards and low cards that will give an idea to the possible remaining card on the deck and gives an edge to the players to increase their bet significantly.

Card counters rely on increasing their bets when they already have a better overview on what is the remaining card on the deck. It’s not a myth since it was proven and casino is aware on this strategy that’s why they are strict on monitoring it.

But right now, There’s no way to apply this method with the current rules of blackjack on casino.

Natsuu:

Quote from: Wapfika on April 13, 2024, 02:06:41 PM
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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 05, 2024, 07:08:09 PM
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How true is this or this a myth? If for instance card counting is legal in the UK but outlawed by casinos doesn't it makes it illegal?

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There’s a mathematical evidence that card counting is effective for a regular card decks without a continuous shuffling feature in the casino since the number of cards is determined. Card counts involves counting both high cards and low cards that will give an idea to the possible remaining card on the deck and gives an edge to the players to increase their bet significantly.

Card counters rely on increasing their bets when they already have a better overview on what is the remaining card on the deck. It’s not a myth since it was proven and casino is aware on this strategy that’s why they are strict on monitoring it.

But right now, There’s no way to apply this method with the current rules of blackjack on casino.

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The thing is, it does truly works when done correctly. And you playing real time and being kick out solely depends with the level of security and rules and of the casino. Some identify that as an edge and allow their players to do such, most really defined that as cheating when the has been exploited much money from that player. It also depends on the casino if they exchange their winnings or not to monetary value.

FortuneFollower:

Quote from: btc_angela on April 13, 2024, 12:34:09 PM
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Quote from: FortuneFollower on April 10, 2024, 09:38:09 PM
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Quote from: Davidvictorson on April 05, 2024, 07:08:09 PM
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I have learned that card counting is legal in blackjack but casinos frown at it. Most casinos have a surveillance camera that watch each table to catch a player who caught counting cards. A player may be thrown out or banned from the casino if caught counting cards because there is a belief that it gives the player an edge. How true is this or this a myth? If for instance card counting is legal in the UK but outlawed by casinos doesn't it makes it illegal?

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Think of casinos as those high school parties where the hosts have the final say on the guest list. Just as you’re getting into the groove, counting cards like you’re flipping through a mental Rolodex, the casino’s eagle-eyed bouncers (aka surveillance cameras) are on the lookout.
So, while card counting in places like the UK isn’t against the law (you won’t be doing the walk of shame past Monopoly’s Go to Jail square), casinos act like those mythical creatures who guard treasures.
They have a “you shall not pass” attitude towards card counters, not because it’s illegal, but because you’re outsmarting the house at its own game.

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And casino's doesn't want you to outsmart them. And if I'm not mistaken, they shared the pictures or image of this card counters so that they can recognized them once they step inside the casinos.

From the videos that I watch, card counters are also at a look out, when they see pit bosses like on the phone and talking to someone, they will have to back it off and if they are lucky, they can exchange their winnings before being escorted out.

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The casinos really do go all out in their efforts to keep the game in their favor.
I’ve also heard about the networks some casinos use to share information about known card counters. They’re trying to protect their interests, of course, but it does raise interesting questions about privacy and fairness.

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