What is the policy regarding AI generated images on the forum?

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

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[Vod]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

We are not required to post the source of our images on this forum.   It would be a nightmare to enforce.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

Your subject was actually a good question, but it seems you're already trying to vindictive yourself against it - should you ever be seen posting AI generated images?... I mean, what sort of reasonable illustration can be done with an AI? Do you really think if you could end up resolving your image problems with an AI, you won't wanna also try getting away with posting from it?

We are not required to post the source of our images on this forum.   It would be a nightmare to enforce.

Honestly!.. I'm beginning to think of how awful it'll look to surf through the forum and stumble on images like -- a kid riding on a bike part made outta water melon etc (cus some dickhead would actually come up with an illustration as weird as that)...
OP, unless you wanna be distrusted and ignored by so Many,  desist from AIs

[Charles-Tim]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

Even if you do not make it clear for people to know if it is AI generated or not, it is not against any rules on this forum to post any images that you want, be it AI generated or not AI generated. Just make sure you have quality posts. You even want to generate the AI images yourself which is also not against any rules on this forum.

[dzungmobile]

So far, policy on images is easy and not like texts.

Below is the answer by mprep (Global Moderator).

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e] - Does this rule apply to images?

AFAIK no, it doesn't apply to images.

Thank you, can I quote you?

Feel free.

If a poster is honest, a source link will be used but else, no ban from the forum.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Honestly!.. I'm beginning to think of how awful it'll look to surf through the forum and stumble on images like -- a kid riding on a bike part made outta water melon etc (cus some dickhead would actually come up with an illustration as weird as that)...
OP, unless you wanna be distrusted and ignored by so Many,  desist from AIs

It's quite a strange analogy. Unlike dry texts created by AI, the illustrations turn out to be very colorful and rich, and I don’t think there would be problems on the forum if the OP sometimes added several pictures. This is also true when adding ordinary pictures from the Internet if they are not someone else's property, as the author directly stated somewhere.

[un_rank]

Besides how AI can be easily abused it is an amazing technology with lots of possibilities still waiting to be exploited.

There is already no policy on images and content ownership, this is also extended to AI generated images. Getting the source of an information is a big task except it is included in the image itself, and with that citing is redundant.

- Jay -

[Sandra_hakeem]

Honestly!.. I'm beginning to think of how awful it'll look to surf through the forum and stumble on images like -- a kid riding on a bike part made outta water melon etc (cus some dickhead would actually come up with an illustration as weird as that)...
OP, unless you wanna be distrusted and ignored by so Many,  desist from AIs

It's quite a strange analogy. Unlike dry texts created by AI, the illustrations turn out to be very colorful and rich, and I don’t think there would be problems on the forum if the OP sometimes added several pictures. This is also true when adding ordinary pictures from the Internet if they are not someone else's property, as the author directly stated somewhere.

Strange as it might look to you, that's the reality(i just had to describe the worst instances yeah)...There's definitely no problem in using images like that for illustration in here - especially since there aren't any rules of any sort... That's not even the bone of contention : if you're giving a proposal, do you not try to create an imaginary foresight of what it'll look like? ..and how well an abuser would go about with it?...^{[I dunno if you got my point there}

[lovesmayfamilis]

Honestly!.. I'm beginning to think of how awful it'll look to surf through the forum and stumble on images like -- a kid riding on a bike part made outta water melon etc (cus some dickhead would actually come up with an illustration as weird as that)...
OP, unless you wanna be distrusted and ignored by so Many,  desist from AIs

It's quite a strange analogy. Unlike dry texts created by AI, the illustrations turn out to be very colorful and rich, and I don’t think there would be problems on the forum if the OP sometimes added several pictures. This is also true when adding ordinary pictures from the Internet if they are not someone else's property, as the author directly stated somewhere.

Strange as it might look to you, that's the reality(i just had to describe the worst instances yeah)...There's definitely no problem in using images like that for illustration in here - especially since there aren't any rules of any sort... That's not even the bone of contention : if you're giving a proposal, do you not try to create an imaginary foresight of what it'll look like? ..and how well an abuser would go about with it?...^{[I dunno if you got my point there}

I never imagined that Don Pedro Dinero would decide to create an image aimed at criticism or with the aim of offending someone in his posts. There are many other interesting things on the forum, as some points could be depicted.
But yes, you and I probably have different understandings about images created by AI. Let's stop arguing...

[decodx]

OP, unless you wanna be distrusted and ignored by so Many,  desist from AIs

This is an online forum platform, a place for open discussion and diverse viewpoints. Though some folks prefer stuff made a certain way, writing off AI images completely seems a bit harsh and  i doubt the OP would get ignored just for using some computer-made images now and then. Unless of course he overdoes it. But then again, you can do that with regular images and other content as well.

I recently ignored some clown who excessively used colored text in his posts. Obviously, it's not against the forum rules, but I find it childish and I don't want to go through threads that look like a circus show. That's my personal preference.

[pinggoki]

If the image generated helps you convey what you need to convey in your topic, I don't think that you'd be violating any rules, maybe doing some form of forewarning or heads up that you're using an AI image, unless you're using it to deceive other users or make it easy for you to post stuff that might seem relevant then that's the time that you're doing something wrong because you're lying to people and it's what makes people mad about in the forum, the lying part. I mean look at alt accounts, you're pretty much not scorned upon by other people because you told the truth and you aren't using it to cheat on campaigns or create some kind of attack that would make you ahead by 1 account.

[Plaguedeath]

There are no problem excepts:

1. You joined a contest that forbid to use AI generated images.
2. You use the images for commercial purpose i.e. sell it, when the sites only allow to use as personal and you didn't buy the license. You breach the copyright issues of the sites, not the forum.

[Jating]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

Or maybe put a note saying that this image is AI generated?

There are still AI generated tools that if you used for free, has a watermarks. Unless you are wiling to subscribe to an AI image program that is too expensive just to used in in this community.

[joker_josue]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

As long as the content of the image does not violate any rules of the forum, nor of the website where it is hosted, there is no problem in sharing this image.

I understand that there is a connection between the text and image made by AI. But, they are different things. Apart from some merits that you may receive, nothing on the forum is evaluated based on the image (except for specific situations). Furthermore, generating an image using AI requires more work than generating text.

Therefore, as long as the image does not contain questionable content, I see no problem with sharing AI images.

[stompix]

OP, unless you wanna be distrusted and ignored by so Many,  desist from AIs

So many?
I am curious who would ignore a good poster and one of the few left here who are not writing 3-4 quota lines of text just because he posted an AI generated image!
And second thing, in order to create a text with AI you just copy/paste the title into a chatbot and that's it, to actually get a really good AI picture specifically tailored to the needs of that topic is something different, I've been playing a lot with things like that since stable diffusion was first released and making one that is not just a dumb poster is not that simple.

Plus what would be the difference between that and all the 1000's double bottoms pics in the WO?

The only place I would say those should definitely be banned is an Art contest!
But since most generators are incapable of showing you the actual steps they've drawn since their rendering is completely different than what a human does just asking competitors to show intermediary work would be enouhg.

[pakhitheboss]

A forum is based on the activities done through writing and
not images. Images only come into play when someone needs to understand the context of what's written. If you want to create a topic relevant and do not find images that are free to use then do use those AI based images. What you need to do is to write that the image was AI generated.

I have seen so many articles, where they do mention that the image is AI generated. I doubt there will be an issue with such images. As rarely we use images when we are posting in the forum. We tend to use images which are certified from a known media outlet.

[philipma1957]

Honestly!.. I'm beginning to think of how awful it'll look to surf through the forum and stumble on images like -- a kid riding on a bike part made outta water melon etc (cus some dickhead would actually come up with an illustration as weird as that)...
OP, unless you wanna be distrusted and ignored by so Many,  desist from AIs

It's quite a strange analogy. Unlike dry texts created by AI, the illustrations turn out to be very colorful and rich, and I don’t think there would be problems on the forum if the OP sometimes added several pictures. This is also true when adding ordinary pictures from the Internet if they are not someone else's property, as the author directly stated somewhere.

Strange as it might look to you, that's the reality(i just had to describe the worst instances yeah)...There's definitely no problem in using images like that for illustration in here - especially since there aren't any rules of any sort... That's not even the bone of contention : if you're giving a proposal, do you not try to create an imaginary foresight of what it'll look like? ..and how well an abuser would go about with it?...^{[I dunno if you got my point there}

AI images are pretty much a way to fake and lie showing reasonable images that are false would be terrible.

Not sure how we can enforce action against an unmarked ai fake.

[Myleschetty]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

The last time I checked th forum didn't have a policy about AI-generated images while there's a policy for AI-generated content to prevent plagiarism and voxxing.
Therefore, if the AI-generated image is not used for a contest where it's forbidden to use I don't see you breaking any rules.

[m2017]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

I will try to express my expert opinion.

This is just a picture, not text, so it should be acceptable for use on the forum. Is an AI picture fundamentally different from pictures from the internet? The only condition, I believe, should be that the AI pictures should not mislead or misinform other users. Simply, there should be no deception. For example, false exchange rate BTC-charts. Of course, AI pictures should not go against the written and unspoken rules of the forum.

In fact, the forum administration should draw up and consolidate rules for the use of AI pictures (and text) on the forum, or at least leave recommendations on this matter in similar topics. It's time to adapt to the changing world.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

I'm the type who always love to add images to my conversation, just as a wise man once said (i.e A picture/image is more than a thousand words), as it add colour to the conversation and makes it interesting to read. So in regards to this your question you just asked if is it permitted to post an A.I generated image on the forum, I will say "Yes", but, inasmuch as the A.I generated image connects and add value to the thread/topic of conversation, and "NO" that is, if the A.I generated image do not in anyway connect with the topic of discussion. Because just as Sir mprep made mention about how plagiarism is not applicable to image posting, it still doesn't mean there are no rules guiding image when posted in an off-topic.

Hence, if only you will be able to use such images to add quality/value to forum discussion, then I think you are good to good.

Below is the answer by mprep (Global Moderator).

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e] - Does this rule apply to images?

AFAIK no, it doesn't apply to images.

[dzungmobile]

I'm the type who always love to add images to my conversation, just as a wise man once said (i.e A picture/image is more than a thousand words), as it add colour to the conversation and makes it interesting to read.

An old school man (but not wise) said, the forum is not a kindergarten so over use images is not good.

It's not what I said but sometimes, you will see one of forum OGs, JetCash says it.

Images, graphics are good if they contain insightful information but if they are simply memes, overuse them is very annoying.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

After reading the replies, I've reached a conclusion:



Cheers guys!

(It was created with copilot, I asked it if I could use it on a forum and it said yes)

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Actually, since I joined the forum, I have not seen any member being penalized for posting images without attaching the image source, nor have I also seen anyone penalized for posting AI-generated images on the forum. Through out last year, I promoted a Mixer campaign on my signature space, and there was one of the avatars we used then, which the campaign manager said was generated with the help of an AI; therefore, I don't think it's against the forum rules to post an AI image here. Unless it becomes rampant and abused, then the admin can decide to come up with a rule, but for now, you are free of bounds.

(It was created with copilot, I asked it if I could use it on a forum and it said yes)

This looks cool, but seems you forgot to complete your name there... Dinero  

[Don Pedro Dinero]

This looks cool, but seems you forgot to complete your name there... Dinero  

I didn't forget anything. 'Dinero' means 'money'. Don't you see money there?

[Vod]

I didn't forget anything. 'Dinero' means 'money'. Don't you see money there?

I can't read the serial numbers to see if they are real.   

[joker_josue]

(It was created with copilot, I asked it if I could use it on a forum and it said yes)

You did very well! We always have to ask the AI if we can use the content it creates. When he goes back, he discovers that we used it without his authorization and we are screwed. Or haven't you seen the movie "Eagle Eye"? 

[Lucius]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

If I were you, I would still note that the image was generated with the help of AI, just in case. Given that the forum has never considered uploading images from any source as something against the forum rules, you probably won't have any problems with such images.

[KingsDen]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

Plagerism rules on images are not even clear in the forum let alone adding AI images. Infact, there's no laid down rules against AI usage in the forum, it is just a few campaign managers and some forum members that are ensuring that forum conversation doesn't turn to a bunch of AI generated texts.

I think theymos purpose of implementing plagerism rule in the forum is not just to acknowledge the true owners of the idea, but also to avoid people pasting generic texts to earn weekly bucks thereby reducing the quality of conversation in the forum. So, AI images not being passed in a way that pretends that it's your personal art work will not be called plagerism.

[dzungmobile]

After reading the replies, I've reached a conclusion:

I didn't forget anything. 'Dinero' means 'money'. Don't you see money there?

Bans AI-generated images in any contests relate to images for submission is good enough, before forum has new rules against AI-generated images, that I don't believe will be added by forum admins.

If I were you, I would still note that the image was generated with the help of AI, just in case. Given that the forum has never considered uploading images from any source as something against the forum rules, you probably won't have any problems with such images.

It is better to have a note but without it, it will not break any existing rule.

It will be as same as forum rules on plagiarism. If you make plagiarism with your posts, to get money, it will cause tougher punishment. Without financial benefit, punishment on it can be softer.

[dkbit98]

Lately I've been generating images with AI on a private level and for entertainment. It has occurred to me that at some point I might add some to a post but I would like to be clear that I am not breaking any rules. In any case it would be as an addition to what I write and making clear that it is an image generated with AI.

I don't like when members are using AI a lot to generate content in forum, but I have no issues with AI generated images, unless they are a part of post with generated text.
No forum rules will be broken with posting of images, unless they are redirecting to some illegal content or content that is not allowed.

[nutildah]

Meh. People post images unaccredited here all the time. Its never been a big deal, unless you are say taking somebody's infographic and then telling everyone its your own. Posting memes, stock images, whatever, should be no big deal, unless you are specifically taking credit for something that's not yours.

Like for instance, if I was to say "I drew this image by hand. Its a forum mod getting big mad about someone posting AI images on the forum"



then that wouldn't be good, because I didn't actually draw it. But if you want to use AI images for any other purpose, I think its fine, and the results are often even funny. It actually makes me laugh when people get mad at use of AI images on the forum.

[Pmalek]

People shouldn't get into trouble for posting images or videos on Bitcontalk. I would only consider it problematic if you try and present the image/video as your own, by saying something like, look at this image I created to explain x subject. And then you post the image with text, tables, or lists that offer an explanation to the question asked. To me that is plagiarism because you are pretending that an image someone else created is yours.

So it depends on how you do it and your intent behind it. If we are discussing something like new Lightning nodes in 2024, and I find a picture showing a table with stats about the growth, I can post that to bring my point across. What I should not do is trying to trick the readers into believing that I carried out the research and created the table. 

[hilariousandco]

As long as it's posted along with some other substantial content I don't see an issue with it. Just posting a sole image might not be ok, unless it was in a thread merely about AI images or something, but you could maybe state that the image was AI generated if you were worried.