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March 26, 2024, 05:40:52 AM
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Federal Security Service was in the Hall
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1772292883560694064?t=_RgDnAj4_eHewA6oM6VHPA&s=19
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March 26, 2024, 06:50:05 AM
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I'd usually dismiss outlandish claims like this, but staging a false-flag terrorist attack killing Russia innocents is literally how Putin rose to power...

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March 26, 2024, 06:40:02 PM
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I'd usually dismiss outlandish claims like this, but staging a false-flag terrorist attack killing Russia innocents is literally how Putin rose to power...
First sitting in the Concert Hall and hours later apprehending the perpertratotrs. Some crazy world.

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April 03, 2024, 01:48:57 PM
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How is that this thread barely reached 2 pages? I don't know why but it didn't gain too much attention that Russians publicly tortured those 4 guys without proving that they are terrorists. Is there any proof that they are? I have only seen one video where their face is blurred. Isn't there any evidence that those four guys were actually the ones who killed people? I mean, any video where we see the faces of those people? Too many people write that suspected ones might be guys randomly taken from the street and real terrorists escaped.



I hope that they are the real terrorists and not randomly arrested Tadjiks. Many FSB members being in the hall also looks very suspicious. We really live in a crazy world.

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April 03, 2024, 07:09:32 PM
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How is that this thread barely reached 2 pages? I don't know why but it didn't gain too much attention that Russians publicly tortured those 4 guys without proving that they are terrorists. Is there any proof that they are? I have only seen one video where their face is blurred. Isn't there any evidence that those four guys were actually the ones who killed people? I mean, any video where we see the faces of those people? Too many people write that suspected ones might be guys randomly taken from the street and real terrorists escaped.



I hope that they are the real terrorists and not randomly arrested Tadjiks. Many FSB members being in the hall also looks very suspicious. We really live in a crazy world.
How someone can believe that they are real terrorists after they were tortured in best Russian traditions. Probably most of us supposed that such things is happening in Russia, but now they published everything themselves. I mean electrocuting genitals or cutting ear off, probably anyone of us would admit being terrorists after such things.
And in general, there is way too many strange things in whole story. Like escaping with same car that they arrived and then going strange towards border with Ukraine. Considering that there is war and border is watched very closely, I'm wondering how they planned to cross it.

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April 04, 2024, 03:57:53 AM
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there is a lot of speculation circulating surrounding this terrorist movement, there are even rumors circulating that it was the us itself that was behind the attack, since they could not openly attack russia. but what about the news stating that the pentagon had previously warned russia regarding this attack? that's just a diversion and makes the us the "good" party, even though that's not what actually happened.

but whatever it is, this is a political issue and it is too complicated to discuss because there are too many issues and rumors which mean that the motive for this attack is not fully revealed.

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April 04, 2024, 10:12:24 AM
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How is that this thread barely reached 2 pages? I don't know why but it didn't gain too much attention that Russians publicly tortured those 4 guys without proving that they are terrorists. Is there any proof that they are? I have only seen one video where their face is blurred. Isn't there any evidence that those four guys were actually the ones who killed people? I mean, any video where we see the faces of those people? Too many people write that suspected ones might be guys randomly taken from the street and real terrorists escaped.



I hope that they are the real terrorists and not randomly arrested Tadjiks. Many FSB members being in the hall also looks very suspicious. We really live in a crazy world.
How someone can believe that they are real terrorists after they were tortured in best Russian traditions. Probably most of us supposed that such things is happening in Russia, but now they published everything themselves. I mean electrocuting genitals or cutting ear off, probably anyone of us would admit being terrorists after such things.
And in general, there is way too many strange things in whole story. Like escaping with same car that they arrived and then going strange towards border with Ukraine. Considering that there is war and border is watched very closely, I'm wondering how they planned to cross it.

That is the thing with authoritarian and brutal regimes like the one in Russia, they lack all sense of legitimacy in the eyes of the international community and when comes to their justice system it is the same. Any civilized country in the world knows that when comes to confessions, the most important matter is not to inflict distress or harm onto the accused alledged criminal, otherwise the confession could be crossed out as invalid. In Russia it seems the most important thing is to get a confession not matter how, it is truly a backwards country.
No country with that way of working is supposed to hold nuclear weapons, in my opinion.

The attempt to flee to the border with Ukraine could have been a desperate attempt not to get captured by Russian police, in my opinion, but it looks too improvised in my eyes. Why would be these alledged terrorists to be offered money in exchange of something like this if they did not have a good escape plan?  Huh

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April 05, 2024, 09:46:59 AM
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How someone can believe that they are real terrorists after they were tortured in best Russian traditions. Probably most of us supposed that such things is happening in Russia, but now they published everything themselves. I mean electrocuting genitals or cutting ear off, probably anyone of us would admit being terrorists after such things.
And in general, there is way too many strange things in whole story. Like escaping with same car that they arrived and then going strange towards border with Ukraine. Considering that there is war and border is watched very closely, I'm wondering how they planned to cross it.
I am not an emotional guy but this accident really hurts me. There aren't enough proofs that these guys are terrorists and too many people write that it's Russia and they might be randomly taken off from the street. Imagine, being an average citizen, working to feed your family and out of nowhere FSB comes at you and tortures you like hell.
It also doesn't make sense they were going to Ukraine. Why would they go to the Ukraine? There is an active war, crossing the border in this case is more stupid than committing a suicide. Putin made up this to make Ukraine somehow involved in this terrorist attack. What was the FSB doing in the hall? Guys in the blue sweaters. One of them was even saying "close the door". I don't understand why are their faces blurred in the video that terrorists recorded? It just doesn't make sense, it only makes me believe that FSB made this and caught suspects are not real terrorists.
It's insane that FSB publicly tortures people before it's confirmed that they are criminals and they are proud of it. It's insane!

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April 15, 2024, 10:44:57 AM
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Everything is happening as expected. Russia forced 4 people to say that after the attack, terrorist's plan was to move in Kyiv and there was 1 million rubble ready for them. You know what's funny? I remember that one of them didn't speak Russian and in this video, he speaks Russian. From this new video it looks like these 4 guys are not the actual terrorists, they were randomly picked up guys from the streets and were forced by KGB to say that they were behind the attack.

Here is the video: https://www.tiktok.com/@fanive_/video/7355320028310408491

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