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May 04, 2024, 05:59:08 PM
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How about an old keypad mobile or even a new one without inserting sim cards be considered for this purpose?
Theoretically, this is possible, but practically, being paranoid, I would think about this solution 10 times. Smiley

The fact is that the main function of a SIM card is subscriber authentication in the cellular network. That is, even without a SIM card, the phone can work (with some reservations), for example, calls to emergency numbers, like 911 (which are most often built into the GSM standard).

I can find some keypad mobiles that are brand new and available for under $50 - and  $40 can do the job.
And I can find it completely free in a box of old mobile phones in my closet. Smiley

Availability is everywhere, we do not need to worry about the data stored getting deleted like calc and data dictionaries.
This is undoubtedly an advantage, as is the ability to add a password to access phone data.


This seems to be a good idea if you ask me, the old ones do not have any internet connections and only come to live as when a SIM card is inserted, they can be used for the purpose as you can save messages as text on drafts.
Old phones, unlike new Chinese push-button phones, don't have built-in backdoors and dubious apps that send data to their servers, therefore, it is better to use older mobile phones.

The text can be saved anywhere, from a notebook, a calendar, to a contact list. Limitations depend only on imagination.

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May 09, 2024, 07:07:09 PM
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I assume you're concerned about battery life, I used nokia that can lasts for days even with intermittent usage but he all it needs standby or even turning off and on won't be a problem which makes it highly reliable option in my perspective. I don't know the new era keypad mobiles are coming with removable batteries, if they do then I don't see any problem with them.
There are some of them with removable batteries, Fairphone is first thing that pops in my mind, it's open source, and they are even giving away free additional battery with every purchase of Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5 models.
I heard about other alternatives but I don't know how active they are, and there are still cheap dumb phones available in most places.

Another phone that is popular with minimalist people who don't like smartphones is CAT S22:




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May 13, 2024, 06:29:44 PM
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I am not a fan of any digital ways of storing seed phrases and private keys, but if for some reason it has to be done, it's good to know there are some options. I would prioritize a device capable of encrypting the data in its memory and, obviously, there can't be any internet, Bluetooth or other ways to transform data from it. Being open-source isn't that important of a factor if there is no way to connect to the internet with it. And even if it is open-source, I doubt security experts were or will be standing in line in the future to investigate the code of 20 year old Casino calculator or a similar gadget.

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Today at 04:21:38 AM
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None of the options on this thread include ENCRYPTION.

Only password protection.... shoddy at best for keeping something as valuable as cryptocurrency private keys secured.

Physical > Encryption > Plain text private keys

YOU NEED LAYERS OF PROTECTION ON THE PHSYICAL DEVICE TO PREVENT A BRUTE FORCE ATTACK.

Using networked devices for this task is a bad idea. Use offline methods.

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