Food shortages coming to the United Kingdom, BUT -

[mindrust]

why is the government of all industries to mess up the farmers who feed us all? afaik they ban fertilizers as well.

people not eating enough will all be hot-tempered. people today are very dependent on the food in cans, we don't even know how to catch fish so when people get hungry, they steal food. it's not good for leaders to rule a country full of hungry men because everyone will just be looting supermarkets.

They do it on purpose. It is all fabricated. Just like covid. Seriously though, why haven't anybody caught covid19 this winter? I see nobody is fainting on the streets anymore. Come to think of it, I only see these fainting people on the internet and they were from China. I never saw it anywhere else.

The next major fabricated disaster will be the climate change. Food shortages is a side/minor disaster like energy crisis. This will lead to a world war if these politicians don't come to their senses.

[Fortify]

- There's a possbility that it's merely manufactured.

The UK is facing a manufactured fake food shortage. The government has been at war with it's farmers for many years, forcing them to close with insane new regulations.

It is not "climate change" related. It is 100% government inflicted if there is any food shortage.

This sort of situation is inflationary, and if inflation doesn't go down, then something will need to break for it to be forced to go down. That indicates a recession, OR if there's too much money in circulation it's going to be worse. Stagflation.

Sounds like something dumb a Russian propagandist would say, considering they are getting their asses kicked by their closest neighbor after invading. If you knew anything, you'd understand that the UK pretty much exists in rain for 6 months of the year anyway, so the current weather is nothing new or surprising. Farming in the UK is more organized and performed at a huge industrial scale with very few farmers able to use automated equipment to cover vast swathes of land. It's also got some of the cheapest food prices in the world with excellent standards. Everywhere is seeing food prices tick up, so there is nothing new or unique about the situation the UK is facing right now - every country has it.

[cryptosize]

And no, it's not a conspiracy theory:

Aldi 'considers selling edible INSECTS' to help with cost of living crisis

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/aldi-considers-selling-edible-insects-28279380

https://twitter.com/wef/status/1390282743356010496

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1558014404855209986

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3UqLAtdZ04

Yummy!

[STT]

Meat shortages can occur because its a cattle stock can take up alot more space, the logistics can be greater then plain grown goods but UK can always import from many nearby farming countries.  There is a trading agreement for farming within the commonwealth countries so I dont even think (frozen) meat could come into shortage normally.   I dont believe the UK is quite in that bad situation just yet but possibly bad crops can occur and force some liability in the trading balance.

[peter0425]

They do it on purpose. It is all fabricated. Just like covid. Seriously though, why haven't anybody caught covid19 this winter?

 I see nobody is fainting on the streets anymore.

Mate, are you serious?

The first virus recorded was almost over 4 years ago now and since then many has changed. Scientists and doctors worked hand in hand to find different ways of prevention and cure for covid19. They came up with vaccines and had everyone vaccinated. Another reason why people are not fainting due to covid19 is because their body have built an immunity to it already. Basically covid19 virus is more or less just the colds now.

Do you think some diseases weren't considered as plagues and deadly back then when they were first discovered?

Come to think of it, I only see these fainting people on the internet and they were from China. I never saw it anywhere else.

Where do you live? because everywhere else in the world, people were just not fainting, but they were dying.

[electronicash]

They do it on purpose. It is all fabricated. Just like covid. Seriously though, why haven't anybody caught covid19 this winter?

 I see nobody is fainting on the streets anymore.

Mate, are you serious?

The first virus recorded was almost over 4 years ago now and since then many has changed. Scientists and doctors worked hand in hand to find different ways of prevention and cure for covid19. They came up with vaccines and had everyone vaccinated. Another reason why people are not fainting due to covid19 is because their body have built an immunity to it already. Basically covid19 virus is more or less just the colds now.

Do you think some diseases weren't considered as plagues and deadly back then when they were first discovered?

Come to think of it, I only see these fainting people on the internet and they were from China. I never saw it anywhere else.

Where do you live? because everywhere else in the world, people were just not fainting, but they were dying.

and people are not wearing masks anymore these days. we have been lied to but we all believed it. i still have boxes of masks at home it has become a habit already to take one whenever we get out.

i can agree that this is really fabricated by the governments conspiring with each other and just like mentioned above. Klaus Schwab encouraging people to eat bugs is like the craziest ideas. i wonder iff he himself is eating bugs.

[doomloop]

people are not wearing masks anymore these days. we have been lied to but we all believed it. i still have boxes of masks at home it has become a habit already to take one whenever we get out.

i can agree that this is really fabricated by the governments conspiring with each other and just like mentioned above. Klaus Schwab encouraging people to eat bugs is like the craziest ideas. i wonder iff he himself is eating bugs.

Maybe in your area only but on others and in ours here, I still can see people who wear it, especially if they are working in hospitals or are students in any schools. Wearing masks has become a norm ever since Covid came. It's great because people see the importance of it, either for protecting their health or to simply hide their faces if they are insecure about it.

Eating bugs on the other hand are not a crazy thing but I already saw lots of people who does that and maybe that person there already tried it before for them to also recommend it. It might actually come in handy and save our lives one day if we have nothing to eat anymore.

[pooya87]

They do it on purpose. It is all fabricated. Just like covid. Seriously though, why haven't anybody caught covid19 this winter? I see nobody is fainting on the streets anymore. Come to think of it, I only see these fainting people on the internet and they were from China. I never saw it anywhere else.

Just because the governments stopped reporting stats it doesn't mean COVID19 was fabricated and nobody is catching it anymore. The numbers have dropped because of Herd Immunity, otherwise you can visit a hospital or speak to healthcare workers and see if people were "fainting" or was it actually happening.

to find different ways of prevention and cure for covid19.
They came up with vaccines and had everyone vaccinated.
Basically covid19 virus is more or less just the colds now.

Coronavirus existed forever and it is a similar virus to the common cold virus with similar symptoms. The COVID19 was a new strain of the same Coronavirus, possibly artificially produced/manipulated in a lab, that had severe symptoms. So it is not "more or less just the colds", it is still a nasty virus despite the overall increased immunity of the human race over the past couple of years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

There has never been any "cure" for Coronavirus just like there is no "cure" for common cold. Your body has to take care of it and all the treatments are either to improve your immune system or to alleviate the pain and symptoms.
The COVID19 vaccines were either useless or caused severe side effects (specially the US made ones). Some versions of the vaccine may have increased the body's immunity only in some cases but even for those they never created actual immunity (vaccinated people can catch it again). They were neither a cure nor an actual prevention.

[Poker Player]

They do it on purpose. It is all fabricated. Just like covid. Seriously though, why haven't anybody caught covid19 this winter? I see nobody is fainting on the streets anymore. Come to think of it, I only see these fainting people on the internet and they were from China. I never saw it anywhere else.

Just because the governments stopped reporting stats it doesn't mean COVID19 was fabricated and nobody is catching it anymore.

Well, I don't want to get too much into the Covid issue, what I will say is that I think there was partial manipulation. Not that it was all a fabrication.

In this case of the alleged food shortage it reminds me of what happened with the emperor Commodus in Rome. He grew up with a slave who later became a freedman and by being a friend of his reached heights of power. Commodus was disengaged from power and this freedman one of the things he did was to provoke a food shortage, diverting the grain that came from Egypt to save it and later appear as the savior who alleviated the famine of the people.

With this I want to show that there are very old cases of politicians who offer to solve problems that they themselves create.

The so-called food shortage due to climate change is a scam. You only have to look at the agriculture of the Netherlands or Israel in the middle of a fucking desert to realize that if we stop victimizing stories and spreading panic among the population, current technology allows us to create food in abundance, in very adverse climates.

[electronicash]

people are not wearing masks anymore these days. we have been lied to but we all believed it. i still have boxes of masks at home it has become a habit already to take one whenever we get out.

i can agree that this is really fabricated by the governments conspiring with each other and just like mentioned above. Klaus Schwab encouraging people to eat bugs is like the craziest ideas. i wonder iff he himself is eating bugs.

Maybe in your area only but on others and in ours here, I still can see people who wear it, especially if they are working in hospitals or are students in any schools. Wearing masks has become a norm ever since Covid came. It's great because people see the importance of it, either for protecting their health or to simply hide their faces if they are insecure about it.

Eating bugs on the other hand are not a crazy thing but I already saw lots of people who does that and maybe that person there already tried it before for them to also recommend it. It might actually come in handy and save our lives one day if we have nothing to eat anymore.

well, he can convince a poor country to eat bugs especially when they don't have the choice. but the countries that are abundant with fish and animal farms, they will eat happily the meat and not mind klause.

UK farmers were just choked by the environmental standards though. their government is to blame for what is happening. people keep shouting the communist part of China is cruel but they never did this to their farmers actually.

[martinex]

This sort of situation is inflationary, and if inflation doesn't go down, then something will need to break for it to be forced to go down. That indicates a recession, OR if there's too much money in circulation it's going to be worse. Stagflation.

If it is true and it seems that the government there has taken the wrong medicine by taking policies at any time. The fact is that currently the issue of food security is highly prioritized in facing climate change today and meeting the food supply to be sufficient for every citizen of each country, otherwise the situation if it has risen in rating can have a bad impact.

100% must be their responsibility, Maybe the policies taken by each country to overcome problems or issues about something may not be the same, but if the policy is considered unequal and not functional, I think the government there should be quickly changed to run normally again.

[pooya87]

Well, I don't want to get too much into the Covid issue, what I will say is that I think there was partial manipulation. Not that it was all a fabrication.

Yeah, I was also heavily "politicized".

In this case of the alleged food shortage
The so-called food shortage due to climate change is a scam.

It's not all alleged or scam, even though it is sullied with a lot of it.

Food security on a global scale has indeed been threated for the past couple of years.

* Climate change is one of the major reasons, like what we have had El Niño/La Niña wreaking havoc in the world with sudden massive floods and drought at the same time that has significantly impacted food production. Off the top of my head I can name the damage it caused in West Africa decreasing the production (eg. drop in cocoa harvest) and the floods in Pakistan that decreased the rice harvest by about a million tons and in a lot of other regions.

* Conflicts has been another contributing factor. For example two of the biggest grain producers have been fighting a war for 2 years now! That is bound to affect grain prices globally as the global supply decreases.
On top of that, with global tensions growing, a lot of countries that are major food producer and exporter started decreasing their exports affecting the global markets and both increasing the price and worsening the shortage.

* There are some other contributing factors that are sometimes local like the case in UK that I explained that is the result of bad economic policies by the government due to an economy crisis, etc....

[0t3p0t]

why is the government of all industries to mess up the farmers who feed us all? afaik they ban fertilizers as well.

people not eating enough will all be hot-tempered. people today are very dependent on the food in cans, we don't even know how to catch fish so when people get hungry, they steal food. it's not good for leaders to rule a country full of hungry men because everyone will just be looting supermarkets.

I think governments wanted to have a full control of their people, society and economy but the thing is that the people are the most affected here since policies implemented are not favorable to them in the long run. But how do these wealthy nations run out of food while they were actively providing aid to war torn countries as if nothing happens? But if climate change really is the reason behind these shortages then they should have to find ways to help farmers or else there will always be a never ending protest against the government itself.

[mindrust]

They do it on purpose. It is all fabricated. Just like covid. Seriously though, why haven't anybody caught covid19 this winter? I see nobody is fainting on the streets anymore. Come to think of it, I only see these fainting people on the internet and they were from China. I never saw it anywhere else.

Just because the governments stopped reporting stats it doesn't mean COVID19 was fabricated and nobody is catching it anymore. The numbers have dropped because of Herd Immunity, otherwise you can visit a hospital or speak to healthcare workers and see if people were "fainting" or was it actually happening.

Nobody's catching it anymore. I am a first eye witness. None. Zero covid19 cases in where I live.

It was fabricated.

The disease was more or less another flu variant and people were going to gain herd immunity anyway. There was absolutely zero need for a lock-down and  m-RNA gene therapies. (which was another scam) People lost hundreds of thousands of dollars because of that lie.

German Chancellor Frau Merkel was on TV in March 2020 and she said: "This is by far the most serious threat we are facing since World War II."

Stocks crashed, crypto crashed. People stopped going to work, retail business owners sold their business, tourism was no more. People didn't lose only lose their pay-jobs, big retail businesses went bankrupt because people were afraid to go outside.

What happened in the end?

7 million people died (according to worldometer) and 675 million recovered from it. Death rate = 1%

https://www.worldometers.info/

There are 60 million people die every year. The whole world lost its shit and hundreds of billions was lost because 2 million more people died addition to the 60 million. What about the loss of wealth and people that got hurt because of the recklessness of these politicians? There are many more people who were affected by that fabricated lie.

I had zero vaccines, never got myself tested, never caught covid19, even if I did, I didn't notice and didn't give a flying shit. (except for the money and business I lost)

Annually, about 3 to 5 million cases of severe illness and 290,000 to 650,000 deaths from seasonal flu occur worldwide.[2]

[God bless u]

why is the government of all industries to mess up the farmers who feed us all? afaik they ban fertilizers as well.

people not eating enough will all be hot-tempered. people today are very dependent on the food in cans, we don't even know how to catch fish so when people get hungry, they steal food. it's not good for leaders to rule a country full of hungry men because everyone will just be looting supermarkets.

They do it on purpose. It is all fabricated. Just like covid. Seriously though, why haven't anybody caught covid19 this winter? I see nobody is fainting on the streets anymore. Come to think of it, I only see these fainting people on the internet and they were from China. I never saw it anywhere else.

The next major fabricated disaster will be the climate change. Food shortages is a side/minor disaster like energy crisis. This will lead to a world war if these politicians don't come to their senses.

Nobody here is denying the purpose behind all this but what we need to see is that is government trying enough to install the alternatives? Are the people satisfied with the availability of the item as they were satisfied before these laws were implemented.

That's very important to consider because we need to cater the issues of people.

[tsaroz]

The part that amazes me the most is to hear that the UK is facing food shortages due to the climate change. Whilst that can affect the productivity and fertility of the soil for maximum production, haven't the government made enough arrangements for the present predicaments. What is the essence of the forecasting that the government is doing ahead of the time.

Let's recall how the story of prophet Joseph (Yusuf), (for the sake of history), have helped a lot of governments plan ahead of situations like this, so that they can bring succor to the people when their faced with the food shortages in a nation. How prophet Yusuf (Joseph) interpreted the dream of the Pharoah of Egypt with solutions, at that period when the Pharoah dreamt about 7 years of abundant harvest and 7 years of food shortages and the prophet provided solutions towards the scarcity by advising the government to store their massive yields of foods against the drought season.

For leading countries like UK, I believe the lack of food which has caused about the recent hike and rise in the commodity market, should be more of a government wrong decision than just the exteme weather influenced by the said climate change.

It's not a big problem, food is readily available in the international market and if UK decided to buy, they can probably get it at the price at which farmers in UK sells those food. i.e. buying won't be any costlier than producing in UK. There might be some compromises on quality but they'll get it.
There's no shortage of food either in international market, there are localized problems in places due to climate change but the overall food production is expected to grow by 1.2% in 2024 which is larger than expected population growth of 0.91%.
https://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/csdb/en

[Pidgeon]

Damn shortages, after eating my cat because of Russia, after freezing my ass at 20C because of lack of gas, after going hungry two times already because of recession and brexit now I find out there is a food shortages that has been going around for two months
What's net you're telling me we're going to lose the war with those independence mofos back in the thirteen colonies?
We need Boris back!

[el kaka22]

UK is leading the world with vertical farming, meaning that you guys will end up with a better and more profitable farming in the end, and it will help the whole nation. When you do that, you are not really forced to be in a land for hours, you are basically in a place like a lab, and you get whatever you want and the results aren't all bad. We are talking about a lot less square feet required, a lot less resources required, and a lot more produced all at the same time.

You do not get any better than that, and a lot can be done that way as well, it is not like just a few things. So if this keeps going, I am sure that UK "food shortage" would stop being a threat forever, it is going to be full off vertical farming products everywhere.

[blckhawk]

What exactly is causing the farmers to close down their farms though? I feel like people need to know about more of this because this affects them the most, food shortage due to the lack of local food supply would mean an increase in the need for imported food supplies and we all know what's going to happen when that happens right? Higher prices for basic stuff, it's surprising that a lot of people hasn't made complains about this because anything that's mostly natural and is being made artificial by humans is mostly going to get eventually bad and in the case of this one, it's going to be a pretty bad one.

[pooya87]

Nobody's catching it anymore. I am a first eye witness. None. Zero covid19 cases in where I live.

They are, it's just not as scary as it was at the beginning.
You can't claim to be an eye witness unless you work at a hospital and test every patient that has flu like symptoms to see if they had caught COVID19.

The disease was more or less another flu variant and people were going to gain herd immunity anyway. There was absolutely zero need for a lock-down and  m-RNA gene therapies. (which was another scam) People lost hundreds of thousands of dollars because of that lie.

That's true, Covid pretty much falls under the same category as flu, common cold, etc. In fact a lot of the times you caught cold in your entire life, had a fever, sore throat, etc. you actually had caught Covid. It's just that this new strain (Covid19) was nastier and had more severe symptoms.
Being new, nasty and unknown mortality rate, unknown mutation capabilities, etc. warranted lockdowns, wearing masks, etc.

But I agree that the reactions to it was exaggerated like the Merkel statements you mentioned. And of course in "chaos" scammers thrive. Which is where big pharma companies jumped in and used that opportunity to fill their pockets by scamming the governments and the population with their vaccines, etc.

Death rate = 1%

Keep in mind that we know the mortality rate today, not back then since as I said this was an unknown strain.
Also mortality rate is not the important factor in case of an airborne virus because it is easy to spread. Otherwise there are weirdass viruses and bacterias that have a 90%-100% mortality rate but you never hear their names because you can't catch them easily like just by breathing