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May 01, 2024, 06:20:32 AM
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Your heart is really kind, friend, you still care about other people getting rich from bitcoin, but I read your story above. Your neighbor is very afraid of losing his money. What I want to ask you is how much money your neighbor has? Do you have a fixed income? If I were you, I would borrow your neighbor's funds if your neighbor allowed it. I will return it at the agreed time. You have to remember here that you have to have a steady income to pay in installments and so that they believe you will pay it off. Then you can buy the whole thing at a moment like now when prices are decreasing. If you succeed, you just have to prove it to him, of course he will regret not following your words.
It's hard to believe what we hear until we see something, it's not so easy to believe what other people say is true until someone makes a profit from investing in Bitcoin. Keep telling him all day long that you will get profit in the future, and he still won't believe it, so I also agree, but taking a loan from someone and investing in Bitcoin is not safe for me. Since Bitcoin is a long-term investment and it is also possible that the invested money will go to loss and it will take a long time to recover it, therefore one should never trade by borrowing from anyone.

As you suggested you should have enough income to pay back the amount in instalments, so I would say if you have enough money to pay back the borrowed amount in instalments then it is better. Instead of taking a headache, invest in Bitcoin in portions because doing DCA is better than buying it all at once.

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May 01, 2024, 07:24:40 AM
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The more serious problem is why do we take the time to give investment advice to these types of people and take the time to explain it to them?In my opinion, stay away from the type of person who wants to make big profits but does not like to take risks. This will just waste our time.

I find that the mistake most of us make is that we like to give bitcoin investment advice to others when what we should be doing is just recommending bitcoin to them. Give them knowledge about bitcoin, not advice to invest in bitcoin as soon as possible.

Different people will look at problems in different styles, I have a friend whose character likes to share information and he always teaches people how to make money.
He is so thorough and ready for everyone to ask about investment matters and what is strange is that he never gets bored of teaching this matter every day to the people who ask.
If we think the person is not worthy of being taught then leave, because there is no responsibility to give advice to anyone because there will be risks that will occur.

Apart from providing recommendations, we should also mention the risk impacts that result when people don't understand Bitcoin.
This way they also have the motivation to learn first before getting involved in it. So that every time there is a problem they can face it more prepared.

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May 02, 2024, 04:01:00 AM
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The more serious problem is why do we take the time to give investment advice to these types of people and take the time to explain it to them?In my opinion, stay away from the type of person who wants to make big profits but does not like to take risks. This will just waste our time.

I find that the mistake most of us make is that we like to give bitcoin investment advice to others when what we should be doing is just recommending bitcoin to them. Give them knowledge about bitcoin, not advice to invest in bitcoin as soon as possible.

Different people will look at problems in different styles, I have a friend whose character likes to share information and he always teaches people how to make money.
He is so thorough and ready for everyone to ask about investment matters and what is strange is that he never gets bored of teaching this matter every day to the people who ask.
If we think the person is not worthy of being taught then leave, because there is no responsibility to give advice to anyone because there will be risks that will occur.

Apart from providing recommendations, we should also mention the risk impacts that result when people don't understand Bitcoin.
This way they also have the motivation to learn first before getting involved in it. So that every time there is a problem they can face it more prepared.
As I also said, why don't we give them knowledge and let them make decisions once they understand everything. What I see commonly nowadays is that people just like to impose their thoughts on others, people just always want others to invest in bitcoin immediately. Most just give advice and impose thoughts, no one takes the time to analyze or explain the benefits and risks of bitcoin to someone in detail.
And opposite, if someone doesn't want to listen to our explanations or receive our knowledge but just wants us to ensure their safety, then stay away from them and don't let them waste our time.

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May 02, 2024, 04:38:05 AM
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Dear fellas, please I needed to know how you would feel if you were in my position basically where she said I would refund her if her funds gets lost becasue you recommended and introduced her to the system.
I would not recommend such people. Because investment should always be at your own risk. Don't invest in other people's decisions. But yes one can get experience from me about investment and follow all investment strategies but he will invest with decision from me and in case of loss of that investment I will compensate him which I will never accept. Here he takes a decision from me if he invests and gets a lot of success in that investment then he will not give me any part of his profit but whenever he suffers loss it is never acceptable why I should be compensated. If he agrees to give me a share of the profits, I will be willing to take this risk.


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May 02, 2024, 06:43:29 AM
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Bitcoin can not afford to reprogram its potentials values of being a non-custodial currencies hence it is a technological development created by an initiative individual who is known to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

It is a financial system initiated without any sector of the government contributing to the structure neither being slated with any form of authority role in the system of the digital financial system as Bitcoin.
And on no account would the potentialities and nature of Bitcoin would be flexible to be reformed such as to be centralized in other to justify the mistrusts of the people who are in doubt of it with the facts that Satoshi Nakamoto has remained unknown and yet the digital currency is non-custodian.

I made this expressions because just in, a neighbor is f man who has been in good terms in a while now with me  asked if I can recommend him to any way she can Invest, have her funds secured and as much make profits.
So I recommended Bitcoin to her which she acknowledged that she knows a little about it but her fear is that it is not a centralized technology and for that she has always felt insecured on the development.

You can imagine that she told me to give her my words that if anything happens to her funds if invested that I will have to refund her. 😏. That was silly and I felt mad at her.
And right then I clearly told her that I am not trying to introduce her to any of the Ponzi schemes so it is her choice to decide but all I can tell you(her) lastly about this is that your funds will be secured as long you (she) would stick to the terms I have explained to her after explaining the Pros and the Cons to her.

Dear fellas, please I needed to know how you would feel if you were in my position basically where she said I would refund her if her funds gets lost becasue you recommended and introduced her to the system.

Though the investor wanted to protect her investment without understanding what it means to invest in bitcoin, for this singular statement alone I strongly conclude that this kind of person is not preparef for bitcoin investment and there is know neee of further explanation for her because even though you finally convince her if any ugly situation occurs in the process she will still drag you in, though ponzi scheme has dealt with people and that incident incident still occupues their mind, any investor who is not ready to bear the risk of investing in Bitcoin alone, I think such investor is not worthy of being part this investment and there is know need of wasting your eneegy to talk to such person because the situation may turnout to be aginst you.


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May 02, 2024, 07:20:55 AM
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You can imagine that she told me to give her my words that if anything happens to her funds if invested that I will have to refund her. 😏. That was silly and I felt mad at her.
And right then I clearly told her that I am not trying to introduce her to any of the Ponzi schemes so it is her choice to decide but all I can tell you(her) lastly about this is that your funds will be secured as long you (she) would stick to the terms I have explained to her after explaining the Pros and the Cons to her.

Dear fellas, please I needed to know how you would feel if you were in my position basically where she said I would refund her if her funds gets lost becasue you recommended and introduced her to the system.
Reading through your post, I can tell you didn't put this your neighbour through properly about Bitcoin and its investment risk at the initial time ,else something of this nature wouldn't have arise, for telling you that if anything happens to her funds you are responsible,  Well, that's why it's necessary we lecture any interested individuals properly about Bitcoin and the risks associated with its investment before they think of investing, and this should be the primary objective, I have had number of friends who has indicated interest to invest into Bitcoin but ones I told them about the risk side of it, you see most of them losing interest, The bitter truth is that most people that wants to invest are only concerned about the profit side and aren't willing to take risks side of possibly losing money.

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May 02, 2024, 07:42:36 AM
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Dear fellas, please I needed to know how you would feel if you were in my position basically where she said I would refund her if her funds gets lost becasue you recommended and introduced her to the system.
I would not recommend such people. Because investment should always be at your own risk. Don't invest in other people's decisions. But yes one can get experience from me about investment and follow all investment strategies but he will invest with decision from me and in case of loss of that investment I will compensate him which I will never accept. Here he takes a decision from me if he invests and gets a lot of success in that investment then he will not give me any part of his profit but whenever he suffers loss it is never acceptable why I should be compensated. If he agrees to give me a share of the profits, I will be willing to take this risk.
if this is the attitude of the person ? nope never that I will recommend her or even teaches
how to invest because look at that behavior , they wanted to have a secure investment , they
don't wanna lose but they wanted to gain ? that is completely stupidity here in bitcoin investing
because all of us here have risked and spend our time and knowledge here and what we are gaining
now is the product of our own strength and power because we trusted this market that in future may
change our life.

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May 02, 2024, 07:54:24 AM
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I wouldn't really going to recommend taking funds from someone just to invest in Cryptocurrency or Bitcoin, I mean we already know the how risky it is on be on cryptocurrency so we should be extra careful especially if you are going to take funds from someone, because if you take investment money from someone they might say that it might win or lose, but they surely going to expect a return from you which is not going to end up well for sure because market is not predictable. Even though we could say that market price is going to be a profit in the coming months it wasn't going to be a guaranteed thing at all.

What I would advice in this kind of situation, is never to take any money from anyone because it just going to be a huge problem in the end, what you should say to someone who wants to invest is to actually invest it by himself, so he or she needed to do the hard work, needed to do the research on there own because it involved a huge risk, so that if they lose that money it is going to be their fault. Just don't encourage them to invest at all instead discourage them telling them all of the disadvantages and worst things that could happen, after that if they still want to invest after hearing most of it, then let them process and probably guide them, or else guide him to this forum where he/she might learn a lot.

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As I also said, why don't we give them knowledge and let them make decisions once they understand everything. What I see commonly nowadays is that people just like to impose their thoughts on others, people just always want others to invest in bitcoin immediately. Most just give advice and impose thoughts, no one takes the time to analyze or explain the benefits and risks of bitcoin to someone in detail.
And opposite, if someone doesn't want to listen to our explanations or receive our knowledge but just wants us to ensure their safety, then stay away from them and don't let them waste our time.

It is much better that we provide knowledge and they can learn to understand before making a decision. Imposing our thoughts on other people is not a good decision because they may not be able to implement the methods we use.
Investing in bitcoin is indeed very good, but if they don't understand how to do it, it will be dangerous and if they are not taught about risks, fluctuations or market movements that can change in the near future. It will cause panic when they invest in the condition of a sharp decline in the bitcoin market.

That's why it's important to provide a complete understanding of Bitcoin and they can decide to invest after understanding everything.
If not, when faced with a problem, they will find it difficult to understand how to minimize the risks posed.

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May 03, 2024, 05:58:16 AM
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Dear fellas, please I needed to know how you would feel if you were in my position basically where she said I would refund her if her funds gets lost becasue you recommended and introduced her to the system.
I would not recommend such people. Because investment should always be at your own risk. Don't invest in other people's decisions. But yes one can get experience from me about investment and follow all investment strategies but he will invest with decision from me and in case of loss of that investment I will compensate him which I will never accept. Here he takes a decision from me if he invests and gets a lot of success in that investment then he will not give me any part of his profit but whenever he suffers loss it is never acceptable why I should be compensated. If he agrees to give me a share of the profits, I will be willing to take this risk.
if this is the attitude of the person ? nope never that I will recommend her or even teaches
how to invest because look at that behavior , they wanted to have a secure investment , they
don't wanna lose but they wanted to gain ? that is completely stupidity here in bitcoin investing
because all of us here have risked and spend our time and knowledge here and what we are gaining
now is the product of our own strength and power because we trusted this market that in future may
change our life.
Investing always requires your own willpower Never invest without your own willpower. Also investment should always be done at own risk and should not rely on investment decisions of others. I don't give investment advice to anyone because if someone invests on my advice and gets hurt by that investment, no matter how much he loves and cares for me, his love for me will diminish even a little bit because he will always feel that he got hurt by investing on his advice. If someone seeks investment advice from me, I advise him on all investment strategies so that he can invest at his own risk because if he loses the investment, he cannot blame anyone.


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It's hard like that; unless he agrees to share the profit 50/50, I'll agree. Also, if you shared with him about Bitcoin, it's up to him if he wants to invest. Then you should assume that there is still a risk associated with it.

I think you should discourage him from the beginning from investing if he is not ready for any circumstances that he may face there.



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It's hard like that; unless he agrees to share the profit 50/50, I'll agree. Also, if you shared with him about Bitcoin, it's up to him if he wants to invest. Then you should assume that there is still a risk associated with it.
Sharing the profit would be another risky step to take. Advising them to invest would be the first wrong step to initiate. It is better to provide people with the material they need to read and understand and then go into passive mode, only answer what they ask and dont introduce investing to them.

If they lose money, they have a bad habit of putting the blame on the person who introduced it to them. People have zero gratitude these days you see.

If you are sharing profits, it makes the person believe that it is good and they start taking more risks. This could end up in a horrible situation.

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You can imagine that she told me to give her my words that if anything happens to her funds if invested that I will have to refund her. 😏. That was silly and I felt mad at her.
And right then I clearly told her that I am not trying to introduce her to any of the Ponzi schemes so it is her choice to decide but all I can tell you(her) lastly about this is that your funds will be secured as long you (she) would stick to the terms I have explained to her after explaining the Pros and the Cons to her.

Dear fellas, please I needed to know how you would feel if you were in my position basically where she said I would refund her if her funds gets lost becasue you recommended and introduced her to the system.
Reading through your post, I can tell you didn't put this your neighbour through properly about Bitcoin and its investment risk at the initial time ,else something of this nature wouldn't have arise, for telling you that if anything happens to her funds you are responsible,  Well, that's why it's necessary we lecture any interested individuals properly about Bitcoin and the risks associated with its investment before they think of investing, and this should be the primary objective, I have had number of friends who has indicated interest to invest into Bitcoin but ones I told them about the risk side of it, you see most of them losing interest, The bitter truth is that most people that wants to invest are only concerned about the profit side and aren't willing to take risks side of possibly losing money.
It's true, and based on the OP's experience or scenario, it is unfair because someone offers to invest in bitcoin, and the OP will handle it. If the investment is earned, then they will both get money or a reward, but if the OP loses it all, the OP should refund all the money that the girl invested. That's nonsense. I think even if the girl knows the risk of investing in bitcoin and I'm sure the OP explains it to her, the fact that the girl only wants the profit, not the fact that if the OP loses it all, the blame will only be on the OP, that kind of transaction or negotiation should not be entertained, and it's normal for the OP to feel annoyed because it's like an insult to you as a person. If I stumble upon one of my friends who will have that kind of mindset, without a doubt I will ignore him/her and just earn on my own, with my own money.

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May 26, 2024, 09:29:24 AM
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It's hard like that; unless he agrees to share the profit 50/50, I'll agree. Also, if you shared with him about Bitcoin, it's up to him if he wants to invest. Then you should assume that there is still a risk associated with it.
Sharing the profit would be another risky step to take. Advising them to invest would be the first wrong step to initiate. It is better to provide people with the material they need to read and understand and then go into passive mode, only answer what they ask and dont introduce investing to them.

If they lose money, they have a bad habit of putting the blame on the person who introduced it to them. People have zero gratitude these days you see.

If you are sharing profits, it makes the person believe that it is good and they start taking more risks. This could end up in a horrible situation.

I will not take that condition since its risky for us to accept that especially if the person we are dealing with cannot accept a lose and just think about that there's sure profit to get if they come with us and invest their money for what activities we do. Much better if we do solo venture since there's no one will blame us if we fail and also no people will disturb us if we gain.

Profit sharing could really end up in horrible situation since we can't hold any peoples decision that's why much better to deny all of same like offer since we cannot get anything from it and we might just get stress by the pressure especially our partner cannot understand the whole situation also with negative situation that you might encounter. If they want to try bitcoin then its fine but if they a condition like this then ignore and we should not entertain their laziness.

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May 26, 2024, 12:08:43 PM
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Everyone has their own story of getting into cryptocurrency and, accordingly, advice regarding investments. But for example, I am very grateful to the person who introduced me to cryptocurrency, although he used me for work and did not give me any information, but I took the initiative and began to study cryptocurrency myself. But even for this I thank him more. In turn, I showed what I was doing to my friend and he also immersed himself in crypto completely and achieved significant success in 8 years. However, he never blamed me for his failures.

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Usually, people like that are people who are looking for safety, and are not ready for the risks. However, when he says that, he probably assumes that when an offense occurs, he will direct it at you, and the worst thing is that he will ask you for compensation. However, you should deny it, and tell him that it is 100% his decision. I rarely invite other people to invest because sometimes they are only ready for the profits, but not ready for the risks.

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May 26, 2024, 02:05:02 PM
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I wouldn't really going to recommend taking funds from someone just to invest in Cryptocurrency or Bitcoin, I mean we already know the how risky it is on be on cryptocurrency so we should be extra careful especially if you are going to take funds from someone, because if you take investment money from someone they might say that it might win or lose, but they surely going to expect a return from you which is not going to end up well for sure because market is not predictable. Even though we could say that market price is going to be a profit in the coming months it wasn't going to be a guaranteed thing at all.

it is a very delicate situation and if thing get out of hand given explanation will not just make sense because the person will be like this is not what you told me when you collected money from me, and first of all we know what bitcoin and other crypto currencies are capable of, you can make profit and the same time you can lose money. and if you end up taking money and things did not go as plan. then what explanation do you give that will justify you trying to help. even if they know what is at stake there human nature will still expect nothing but profit. and lets assume that the market goes down you need to make a good explanation to convince them that the market will bounce back over time. and its true you can expect a lot from the market but your expectations should not be that high because if it is to high you night end up depressed. it is better to use your own money and anyone you are involving should be told the plain truth, to avoid getting blamed at the end of the day. because people that tell people about bitcoin will always want to sweet talk, and investing comes with a lot of disappointment which is the risk behind it.


What I would advice in this kind of situation, is never to take any money from anyone because it just going to be a huge problem in the end, what you should say to someone who wants to invest is to actually invest it by himself, so he or she needed to do the hard work, needed to do the research on there own because it involved a huge risk, so that if they lose that money it is going to be their fault. Just don't encourage them to invest at all instead discourage them telling them all of the disadvantages and worst things that could happen, after that if they still want to invest after hearing most of it, then let them process and probably guide them, or else guide him to this forum where he/she might learn a lot.

A very huge problem we know how hard it has become to make money and money was collected just for to invest it in bitcoin and bitcoin is something that any little thing can change the market. that is the nature of bitcoin and if it was a situation that the person is interested in bitcoin but when you find your self in that situation you ask them to learn and they should in charge of there own money managing it them self. at least if anything happens they will blame there self.

And when they do it by there self they will know that its not easy to actually know about bitcoin, and when you lose money they will feel you were not extra care but when they lose money they will look for ways to justify there own intention. and that is why it best you allow them trade or hold their assets their self then they will know exactly what it takes. And they can be calling for advice and its not bad but after the advice they can make their own choice.

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May 26, 2024, 03:03:06 PM
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yeah, that's something that happens often. A person will blame other people for inviting him to do this when he suffers a loss. That's ridiculous when you explain how risky he can get when investing in bitcoin. Therefore, don't invite him to invest, but educate him about Bitcoin, and let him make decisions based on his own thoughts. This is done to avoid things like that.
People so easily blame others when they suffer losses, and ask for the losses they receive. However, when he makes a profit, he is just grateful, and maybe just gives a little money to the person who invited him. That's not fair.
Before teaching them about this asset, it's best to tell them from the start
information as detailed as possible about the risks involved, we should never invite them to invest, let them make their own decisions. We should not be involved in their decision to invest, if they are not ready for all the risks, I think that's enough for us to provide the information. If they are ready to take all the risks they themselves will take, then we take the next step to guide them to the buyer or put them in a safe wallet. From the information I mentioned above they can't tell us if something happens to their investment. That is the importance of information at the beginning when telling it.

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Bitcoin can not afford to reprogram its potentials values of being a non-custodial currencies hence it is a technological development created by an initiative individual who is known to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

It is a financial system initiated without any sector of the government contributing to the structure neither being slated with any form of authority role in the system of the digital financial system as Bitcoin.
And on no account would the potentialities and nature of Bitcoin would be flexible to be reformed such as to be centralized in other to justify the mistrusts of the people who are in doubt of it with the facts that Satoshi Nakamoto has remained unknown and yet the digital currency is non-custodian.

I made this expressions because just in, a neighbor is f man who has been in good terms in a while now with me  asked if I can recommend him to any way she can Invest, have her funds secured and as much make profits.
So I recommended Bitcoin to her which she acknowledged that she knows a little about it but her fear is that it is not a centralized technology and for that she has always felt insecured on the development.

You can imagine that she told me to give her my words that if anything happens to her funds if invested that I will have to refund her. 😏. That was silly and I felt mad at her.
And right then I clearly told her that I am not trying to introduce her to any of the Ponzi schemes so it is her choice to decide but all I can tell you(her) lastly about this is that your funds will be secured as long you (she) would stick to the terms I have explained to her after explaining the Pros and the Cons to her.

Dear fellas, please I needed to know how you would feel if you were in my position basically where she said I would refund her if her funds gets lost becasue you recommended and introduced her to the system.

I can relate to what she is feeling. There are so many ponzi schemes running in my country that even genuine project like crypto will appear as scam to most people. I do not force anyone to invest because if they make loss, our relation will be spoiled forever. However, I still inform my friends about crypto. Those who can enter the market at correct time and wait for good duration will always make profit. But some friends who are impatient may loose money even though crypro in general is a very useful technology.
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The golden rule of investing in cryptocurrencies is that you must invest only what you are willing to lose at the end of the day. However, most investors do the opposite and end up regretting it later on.

This is why you must tell her to rethink her priorities op instead of shifting the risk onto you. Do your research properly.

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