How has Satoshi's identity never been revealed ?

[Cryptoprincess101]

It was 2009-2010, not 2024. If Satoshi started Bitcoin today, it would be difficult for him to hide his identity.

In other words are trying to say that no one can remain anonymous in the Internet now a days again the use of cookies, tracking IP addresses and the use of Google pixels? Though looking back from 2010 till now, a lot of improvement have been put in place for easy navigation of the Internet and even now that we have modern technology like AIs and bots that gives accurate information on the Internet it will really be difficult for one's identity to be completely hidden from others.

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[Ale88]

Hello,

I'm wondering how Satoshi has managed to remain anonymous. Governments and high-level institutions have expressed interest in knowing his identity, and some have even tried to employ significant resources to find him, as evidenced by certain news reports.

However, Satoshi did use an account on this forum, along with an email address. All connections to this forum logged his IP address/user-agent and other digital traces.

His emails also surfaced during Craig Wright's trial. How is it that the email provider does not have IP and other information? Even behind a VPN, I believe that major institutions have the means to request the real IP from the VPN provider.

I don't want his identity to be revealed ! But I'm simply wondering how he has managed to evade the most powerful entities since 2010. Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Forgive me if this topic has been covered or if it seems silly to you, but I am amazed by the myth of Satoshi

There are some very strong suspicious about Satoshi's real identity, I remember time ago I read about it on Reddit and, based on what I read, everything was pointing about an American living (and studying? Don't remember) in Belgium. They compared the way he wrote, the hours he was posting on the forum and on his personal Twitter account (of course not about bitcoin), and other things, and to me it all made sense but of course there is no 100% guarantee that it was him.

[Belarge]

It was 2009-2010, not 2024. If Satoshi started Bitcoin today, it would be difficult for him to hide his identity.

It's been decades and there's still no sign of human existence of Satoshi, we pressure he's a man. Satoshi chooses to remain anonymous because he specifically knows the risks involved and have to do everything to ensure calmness ruled his activities in the market. Remember, people can not ruined what they don't know or have a good picture about. Staying anonymous is the best choice for him, keeping him out of the range of the top whales and developed countries.

[anna_20]

All investigations follow clues.

Many suspect that Satoshi died in an accident, so maybe one day this case is solved once and for all.

    died??!??

[btc78]

I'm wondering how Satoshi has managed to remain anonymous. Governments and high-level institutions have expressed interest in knowing his identity, and some have even tried to employ significant resources to find him, as evidenced by certain news reports.

The government does not have any business tracking down Satoshi. He has not done anything illegal that would require the government to track him down, that’s why. They are only curious but that is all there is.

However, Satoshi did use an account on this forum, along with an email address. All connections to this forum logged his IP address/user-agent and other digital traces.

Knowing he’d disappear, he probably took extra steps to conceal his digital track.

[altecbit]

Satoshi's probably kept anonymous thanks to solid encryption, Bitcoin's decentralized setup, and their tech smarts.

[Jet Cash]

The answer seems obvious to me. Bitcoin was created as an experiment, and to exploit the creativity of the creative programmers. It was given to us with various caps and restrictions to prevent it ever becoming the dominant payment service in the world. The creators were the central banks and financial elite, and they kept back a million Bitcoin as a security for future manipulation and control, or maybe it was just an investment. The project has been massively successful, and is now being used by the financial organisations for their own purposes. We are lucky to be riding on the tail of this success, and will be able to reap the benefits as it starts to find  its planned level.

[Marvelman]

The reality is, no one actually knows for sure.  Perhaps Satoshi was a single person, or maybe a group of people working together and  they might've used some pretty sophisticated methods to stay anonymous online, or perhaps they simply got lucky.  Regardless they disappeared like a digital magician.  And that air of mystery is part of Satoshi's whole mystique.  However, don't believe complete online anonymity is truly feasible.  Theres regularly some kind of digital footprint left behind, however faint.

[angrybirdy]

Hello,

I'm wondering how Satoshi has managed to remain anonymous. Governments and high-level institutions have expressed interest in knowing his identity, and some have even tried to employ significant resources to find him, as evidenced by certain news reports.

However, Satoshi did use an account on this forum, along with an email address. All connections to this forum logged his IP address/user-agent and other digital traces.

His emails also surfaced during Craig Wright's trial. How is it that the email provider does not have IP and other information? Even behind a VPN, I believe that major institutions have the means to request the real IP from the VPN provider.

I don't want his identity to be revealed ! But I'm simply wondering how he has managed to evade the most powerful entities since 2010. Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Forgive me if this topic has been covered or if it seems silly to you, but I am amazed by the myth of Satoshi

you know? even I sometimes wonder how he is able to hide his identity since 2010, you know that? it's like he really planned what he had to do because the actions and concealment he does are clean. as you mentioned, the other criminals are caught using their IP address, that's because they did something bad so I don't think we should look for Satoshi especially since he didn't do anything bad, it's better if we should let him go if he doesn't want to show up but I believe he's just watching this forum using a different account since now and then.

[harapan]

Satoshi never revealed himself and he has also maintained anonymity till date.Ultimately,there's no real evidence about the identity of bitcoin's creator,whether he'll appear from nowhere and reveal himself to the world still remains unknown to us all.
And there's still no possibility of finding his true identity.
If Bitcoin's creator identity is eventually revealed,it could trigger a lasting change,or withdrawal from users or even lead to furtherance losses.

Although the government and some other investigation/research institution are worried about the disappearance,and its because sato shi has no illegal record or activity that could justify the crimes.
Mind you,satoshi could read all of these threads in the forum and just smile to himself😊I mean that guy was deeply aware and intentional of his actions all along by leaving no traces behind...

[oktana]

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I don't want his identity to be revealed ! But I'm simply wondering how he has managed to evade the most powerful entities since 2010. Even with current anonymization technologies, the most prominent cybercriminals/activists get caught.

Excuse me? Is he wanted? Or do you now know that invasion of privacy is a violation of one’s right? Satoshi is not a criminal group. And I believe that they prepared to be anonymous which makes sense as to why they can’t be found. For a group of people who developed a cryptocurrency without having to copy someone’s idea or codes (like we see with Altcoins today), I believe they are really smart (it’s makes sense that they can’t be traced).

[ArumiBTC]

The authority may already know his true identity but decide to keep it secret. Personally, I believe in the "deep state" and they are not always carry ill-intent.

[nutildah]

Stop spreading this lie. TOR with default settings doesn't protect anyone from anything. TOR nodes can be easily monitored for traffic, thus de-anonymizing anyone who hasn't set up TOR correctly.

We need to move away from .onion routing and use I2P.

You are aware that everyone who uses I2P has their IP address displayed to all users of the network, right? I'm not sure its actually better than TOR in that regard.

The answer seems obvious to me. Bitcoin was created as an experiment, and to exploit the creativity of the creative programmers. It was given to us with various caps and restrictions to prevent it ever becoming the dominant payment service in the world. The creators were the central banks and financial elite, and they kept back a million Bitcoin as a security for future manipulation and control, or maybe it was just an investment. The project has been massively successful, and is now being used by the financial organisations for their own purposes. We are lucky to be riding on the tail of this success, and will be able to reap the benefits as it starts to find  its planned level.

As far as conspiracy theories go, this is probably one of the better ones I ever heard.

Additionally, TOR itself was created by the government, as was SHA-2, so its not entirely a far fetched idea to think that Bitcoin itself is also a product of the government.

[dansus021]

i was a true geek and he knew everything about the privacy, and anonymity, and when he created and released that anonymity and privacy he did it carefully so no one could actually know his true identity. I know that each organization has some predictions about him but no one actually know who Satoshi was.

I totally agree with SamReomo that Satoshi is a true geek and he knew about privacy and anonymity he probably still alive right now and still watch bitcoin goes up and down but he decided to stay hidden, If I were satotshi Im would do exactly the same like this by watching the world pace forward while keeping the distance I mean there is no really benefit to show up right now and maybe there are people know about this satoshi but they also keep their mouth shut.

Even tho Government has a tool to reveal the satoshi and then what he is not a criminal so why bother ? Right?

[Catenaccio]

Forgive me if this topic has been covered or if it seems silly to you, but I am amazed by the myth of Satoshi

You need to read these
I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread.
Should speculation about satoshi's identity be subject to doxxing rules?

The second topic raises an opinion that trying to find identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is like doxing the founder of Bitcoin in my understanding of forum rules.

[moneystery]

We know that he/they was/were using Tor, shy, cautious, and had enough experience to hide his identity, and what helped Satoshi is that talking about Bitcoin and interest in it began in 2013, 3 years after his disappearance, and it is difficult to find a service that records junk data for 3 years.

It was 2009-2010, not 2024. If Satoshi started Bitcoin today, it would be difficult for him to hide his identity.

this was discussed by my lecturer in a lecture where he said that satoshi was impossible to track because he started his project in 2009, which was when internet technology was not as sophisticated as it is today. he explained that satoshi was very skilled in computers and very skilled at hiding his identity on the internet because he was not only good at computers but also at cryptography. therefore, because of this, he will never return to the world of bitcoin, because in the fraction of a second he accesses the device or wallet he has today, his location will be immediately tracked.

[Z-tight]

The authority may already know his true identity but decide to keep it secret. Personally, I believe in the "deep state" and they are not always carry ill-intent.

I doubt this very conspiracy theory, i believe if the the U.S government knows who Satoshi is, they would have made it public and tried to use it in one way or another to attack BTC and maybe discredit it. I say so because that is what they love to do, just as they are going after BTC through its privacy solutions and privacy enhancing wallets right now, claiming that they are all being used for money laundering.

[pawanjain]

Satoshi already knew about privacy and anonymity and had been using privacy techniques to safeguard himself.
On top of that, it has been so many years after his disappearance that people started to find him.
Even the logs would have been delted by the time and since he had been using privacy techniques, it made it very difficult for others to get hold of his identity.
He was truly a genius indeed.

[anna_20]

The answer seems obvious to me. Bitcoin was created as an experiment, and to exploit the creativity of the creative programmers. It was given to us with various caps and restrictions to prevent it ever becoming the dominant payment service in the world. The creators were the central banks and financial elite, and they kept back a million Bitcoin as a security for future manipulation and control, or maybe it was just an investment. The project has been massively successful, and is now being used by the financial organisations for their own purposes. We are lucky to be riding on the tail of this success, and will be able to reap the benefits as it starts to find  its planned level.

i don't like this theory. I prefer to think of Satoshi as the genius that most people say he is.

[Kemarit]

Or maybe we can apply Occam’s Razor here.

And simply put, he can't really be identified even if we know his ip address, his well known email address, or what time he post here in the community, or if Satoshi is just a single person or group of individuals.