Can a seed phrase on steel or titanium sheet survive this flood?

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Stompix said it is a flood in Orenburg , Russia. There was flood in Dubai but not this image. But this does not change my question.

This was part of the flood in Dubai recently. The rain that should have fallen in almost 3 years fell in just one day and the whole of the city were flooded.



It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

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[_BlackStar]

As long as the steel or titanium sheet on which the seed phrase is written is still in place ^{[not carried away or swept away]} then in my opinion it is still safe. Steel can still be damaged by corrosion if submerged in water for too long - but titanium may be more resistant.

It's hard to guess that the steel sheet would still be in a safe place in the event of such a devastating natural disaster. So it's best for someone who can still access their wallet via cellphone or laptop to back up their seeds again to a safer place, or move them to a new wallet.

[Zaguru12]

I think the question would first be maybe the owner survived before the seed phrase. Yes the phrase will still be on the steel sheet but as you have stated would be washed away with many things except if it is possibly stored in a container or wardrobe that is unmovable by the flood and locked properly again, then they’re is a good chance it would still be there.

Regardless of what happen, once you have large amounts of savings in a wallet then it is advised to duplicate your seed phrase back up to different locations. This particular case explains why it is important to do that.

[Alphakilo]

This is the worse I have ever seen. The rainfall made the rainfall in other places of the world look like a joke. I watched the video online and it was like a scene from an end of the world genre.

A steel or titanium seed phrase would have been displaced by the flood of it were not kept in a strong safe box attached the the wall of the apartment. Although I know we do not usually prepare for things like this so having a tracking chip place on the inside of the titanium would not cross the mind of the owner. Lastly, we should have a backup plan for the main backup.

[stompix]

This was part of the flood in Dubai recently.

Nope, it's a fake video with images from the flood in Orenburg , Russia, there was no 3 meter flood in Dubai to cover houses.
https://newsmeter.in/fact-check/viral-video-of-storm-hit-dubai-is-footage-from-russian-floods-728005

Now about the seed, if you keep it on a shelf in your bedroom it might get swept away, but highly unlikely even so, if you secure it to some heavy furniture or in a safe place no flood will move it unless it also destroys the house, so it will be pretty much as safe as anything can be in a house.

[Upgrade00]

It will depend on how thick the plates are and the extent of the flood. If it is one that destroys properties, searching through the ruble in search of anything is not easy to do and more often than not, you'll not be the first one back on the scene as rescue operations will be ongoing.

If you secured it in a safe or any other heavy household appliance that can narrow down the search, but that again will depend on how big the building is which will tell us how much ruble it will be buried under.

[peter0425]

Steel typically can survive any water so yes most likely it would have survived.

Of course it’s different if the seed phrase on steel was carried away and into the streets it went. Then it is no longer just the water that is the danger in your steel plate. It could bump into other metals or sharp things that may or may not cause it to break. If it’s in a container however then most likely it will be very safe even in a flood.

[passwordnow]

I wouldn't question its survival because it's possible it's still intact even it drowns but the question is if it will be found and kept by the owner? I'd agree to zaguru, that's the next thing if the owner survives as well with that kind of flood but usually, there's a rescue response before a house or city gets drowned and flooded like that.

It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

Exactly, not just to oceans but can also be burry down by the things that are flowing in the flood. So, someone who has his seeds that are engraved, it's best to have it like a dog tag as another backup or if it's in metal plate, make sure that you're able to bring it before some disasters like great floods comes in to your area.

[The Cryptovator]

First of all, we always need to backup seed phrases in multiple places. So in the in the case of a lost device or a seeded phrase, we can recover the wallet again. Seed in steel or titanium should survive a flood unless you lose it. So it depends on how you store your seeds. You shouldn't store somewhere that easily could get flooded with the flood. It's money, and we should treat it like money as well. At least both your seed and device shouldn't work together, so you have to find a way. 

[Stalker22]

The question isn't whether your seed backup can survive the disaster, but rather how its location is secured?  Will you be able to find it after a devastating event like this?  The same applies to fires. Although a steel or titanium plate can survive a fire itself, it is unlikely that you will be able to find it later in a pile of ash and debris if your entire house or building has burned down.

[Sandra_hakeem]

As long as the steel or titanium sheet on which the seed phrase is written is still in place ^{[not carried away or swept away]} then in my opinion it is still safe. Steel can still be damaged by corrosion if submerged in water for too long - but titanium may be more resistant.

it didn't even occur to you that the steel or titanium safe (assuming that was what it was) must have been sitted on a basement, in the locker room or somewhere else? If that's the case, then there's no guarantee of safety...
 It would make much more sense if anyone speculated that there was some metalwork done - in that the safe was glued, maybe with an epoxy unto an installed metal (maybe the foundation pillars or something)... If it's the former, then I'll consider it a false story as it's impossible to weld a steal.

The question isn't whether your seed backup can survive the disaster, but rather how its location is secured?  Will you be able to find it after a devastating event like this? 

you'll never know how you'd react until it eventually happens to you; At this point, the only thing that matters to you in life is "LIFE ITSELF"

[Hatchy]

Natural disasters still pose a threat to the safety of our seedphrase. Though most people have given possible suggestions, but In terms of such disasters, anything is possible and we might not be on the verge of saving our keys stored somewhere in the house. First thing that will come to our mind will be our safety first. Though steels have been proven to be the best resistant to most conditions, it might have flaws depending on the situation at hand.
Titanium is stronger than steel but just as others have said, keeping or storing them in places which might be swept away by these natural disasters won't be able to save them. There's just no perfect way of storing our seed phrase.

[famososMuertos]

Depending on the amount of bitcoin, there are so many ways to protect the seeds that thinking about punching a sheet of steel is somewhat an archaic alternative.  Everyone can take natural disasters as they see fit to get on their nerves, but there are alternatives.

[Moreno233]

In all our analysis of ways of protecting our asset, we never really considered what will happen in the advent of natural disaster such as the flood ravaging Dubai. Honestly, when natural disaster hits, it is very easy to forget things like hardware wallets because the primary concern will be how to save lives. According to Google, Titanium is water resistant.

Titanium resists all forms of corrosive attack by fresh water and steam to temperatures in excess of 600°F (316°C). The corrosion rate is very low or a slight weight gain is experienced. Titanium surfaces are likely to acquire a tarnished appearance in hot water steam but will be free of corrosion

For a Titanium coated sheet,  if it is spared and not washed away, then the seed phrase will be safe. On the contrary, steel is not resistant to sea water under prolonged exposure, so seed phrase engraved in steel coated sheet is not safe when exposed to sea water. 

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

What can make the steel or titanium sheet survive this kind of flood is dependent on the place it is being kept. If it is just casually kept in an unsafe place, definitely the flood will sweep it off to a different location where I might be found by another person or where it can't be seen again. 

But if it's kept in a safe metallic box or embedded in a non-decomposable material and buried under the earth, there's no way it can not survive this kind of flood. Secondly, a secret phrase should not only be kept in one source because, in situations like this, you might not even be able to go to the location where you kept your seed phrase, but if there is another nearby location within your reach where you kept another piece of that phrase, you can just get that one. 

[LDL]

Flooding in Dubai, Saudi Arabia, etc. means unexpected flooding without prior preparation as it is likely that Dubai faced such a severe flood after 72/73 years. Dubai has never been able to take advance preparation for this terrible flood so without advance preparation it becomes very difficult for a country to deal with the overall flood situation.
Now coming to the consideration of bitcoin holders, if a bitcoin holder in Dubai keeps all his bitcoins in a device in the basement of a building, think for yourself how reasonable his bitcoins would be in this flood situation. You can imagine how much bitcoins have been recovered from the devices kept on the ground floor from the flooded places like the airport, shopping malls, supermarkets, etc. in Dubai. Security system/Seed phase of Bitcoin wallet should be selected as a sustainable storage method in all these flood affected areas. In that case Google Drive can be used or a device should be selected to store the Phases words in a place where there is no chance of being submerged even if flooded.

[Jegileman]

This is a natural disaster and it cannot be averted neither can it be foreseen in most cases it has happened before. Just like the steel sheet, any other item can as well be swept away by the flood if the flood is that heavy to sweep away everything inside the house or even the whole house. The materials used in constructing this steel sheets cannot easily be destroyed unless left inside the water for a very long time. So, if the steel sheet is still accessible after the flood, everything will still be intact and water wouldn’t have done any damage to it if found early as it takes time for corrosion to affect steel sheet even if they’re prone to corrosion and takes longer time for a titanium sheet as they can resist corrosion than steel.

[jossiel]

It takes time for the steel or that titanium sheet to get corroded by the flood. But with that vast water on that area, if you're not able to get it before vacating the area then you're like finding a grain of rice in the sands because you have no idea where to start looking for it when it's no longer there to the place where you've mostly stored it.

That's a sad situation for Dubai as they probably don't have the sewers to get those waters flowing under the establishments. And if that's worse that goes to the houses and goes through the ceiling, that steel of phrase is going to be released potentially and going to flow into the waters.

Survivability of metal things won't be a problem for these kinds of problems but the real problem starts with the owner on how he's going to find it in those waters.

[GbitG]

Can steel or titanium sheet survive this?

That's a droll Question mate!
But anyway, let's talk about it.
 
In my opinion indeed, steel or titanium sheet can survive the flood. Because both of them have the quality to keep his shape and structure for a long time. If a flood comes and the seed phrase has drowned in the flood so steel or titanium sheet have the ability to keep its shape or structure intact for like 2-3 days so it doesn't rust or something else. 
 
So it means to say that first you need to keep his seed phrase safe at home. Whatever flood comes to your house and drowns everything you should leave it in the same place because if some mud sticks from the flood, then hopefully you will recover it. So this is my opinion according to this question that yes, both can serve in floods.

[Queentoshi]

It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

It will depend on how you have stored the steel or titanium sheet, and also because the flood did not just happen within the blink of an eye, anybody concerned about their investment and other important documents they have at home would have moved the steel sheet to safety.
If a steel sheet gets soaked in water while being moved, it will not be affected like other paper or electronic document.

[sokani]

Dubai has never been able to take advance preparation for this terrible flood so without advance preparation it becomes very difficult for a country to deal with the overall flood situation.

It barely rains in United Arab Emirates and to tell you how much they needed rain, the government came up with a project called cloud seeding to make sure UAE gets enough of rainfall. The heavy downpour in Dubai was unprecedented and the drainage systems were not designed to handle such amount of rainfall that's why they had that kind of flooding.

Now coming to the consideration of bitcoin holders, if a bitcoin holder in Dubai keeps all his bitcoins in a device in the basement of a building, think for yourself how reasonable his bitcoins would be in this flood situation.

It'd only get bad so those who do not have multiple backups of their seed phrase. If they're lucky not to have their device destroyed by the rain, they'd create another wallet, back up their seed phrase and transfer the funds.

[Assface16678]

Well if its written or engraved in a steel plate or titanium sheet then I think it is fine as long as its in a static position, I mean the sheet will not be sweep away or anything because even a steel or titanium plate could be torn apart against that kind of flood, but I dont think anyone that  has a treasure like that would let it, I mean of course that kind of flood will not happen instantly so I'm sure there will be a time for the people to evacuate and of course no one will leave its valuable things or treasure because its their asstes, and also I know that steel plate could be hard or a good sheet to write your seed ohrase but also it has a consequence, like it could be stolen or you could misplace it, so I dont think that this is also a good thing to put your important things like seed phrase.

[Mrbluntzy]

Can a seed phrase on steel or titanium sheet survive this flood?

Yes it can. Flood can not delete seed phrase on any steel sheet and flood can not damage the steel and can only carry the still away but would the owner of the wallet allow their seed phrase to be carried by water? No" Is the answer. Even before the flood will get this deep, you are supposed to have removed your wallet seed phrase phrase where ever it was kept.

[PX-Z]

First of all, we always need to backup seed phrases in multiple places. So in the in the case of a lost device or a seeded phrase, we can recover the wallet again.

If it's a disaster like this flood, considering those multiple places is still on your house, it's the same story then. Not unless you put it somewhere else house, bank's safe, or online, these three are somewhat not recommended.
So what you could do is keep it on somewhat fire proof, hard safe like vault that it cannot be moved easily by flood, well, you need a budget for this too.

[HelliumZ]

Survive but some disadvantages...

Engraved seed phase in steel or titanium sheet may avoid the fear of being washed away by flood water but it can cause many problems.
If for some reason someone steals this steel or titanium sheet of yours, of course you will not be able to guarantee the bitcoins in your wallet later. In this case your wallet will get hacked.
Moreover, if the light sheet is washed away in the flood water, it will definitely be washed away on the ground or in the current, in which case your wallet's security system will be lost forever.

[Ale88]

It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

I really don't see the big deal, at the end of the day is just water, and if we are talking about salt water that could rust and corrode even steel, it would require a lot of time, it doesn't happen in a few days/weeks. I would be more concerned about the sheet being dragged away. If you live in an area that maybe be subject to this type of events you should find a proper place, for sure not a simple closet or drawer.

[lovesmayfamilis]

We cannot predict the mood of the elements, and when we think that we can protect our seed phrases, sometimes we are very mistaken. What should a person do if he finds himself far from the place where he left his steel or other capsule? Should I always carry it with me? Then what's the point?  I don’t know about the flood in Dubai—that is, about the consequences—but in the Russian flood, people had time to pick up documents and things important to them. The tragedy was for those who could not do this because they were far from home. That is why sometimes it becomes necessary to save your phrases on the Internet, having previously made a safe similar to safes from programs such as TrueCrypt.

[adaseb]

It might survive but most likely with a flood like that it might get swept away and get lost. I think those plates are more for like house fires rather than massive floods. You also need to understand that steel will start to rust if it’s exposed to water. However it’ll need to be submerged for a long period of time for it to eat away the actual words.

If you are worried then just keep the backup in more than one place. This is generally good practice in case of some environmental catastrophes such as those listed above. You can also lose one backup and you will be glad you had another one in place.

[Plaguedeath]

Flood isn't something that will occur randomly, your government should had warn the citizen for upcoming big flood. If I live in a country where extreme floods is nothing new, I would wear secret stash bracelet. Change the keys with laminated paper which I wrote my seed phrase, so it can resist against water.

No one will know if my bracelet contain almost all of my wealth.


https://www.yankodesign.com/2013/04/16/wear-your-secret-stash/

[fuguebtc]

Flood isn't something that will occur randomly, your government should had warn the citizen for upcoming big flood. If I live in a country where extreme floods is nothing new, I would wear secret stash bracelet. Change the keys with laminated paper which I wrote my seed phrase, so it can resist against water.

No one will know if my bracelet contain almost all of my wealth.


https://www.yankodesign.com/2013/04/16/wear-your-secret-stash/

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

As I understand what the OP is trying to say, the OP is pointing out the disadvantages when we use steel plates to store seed phrase and they are hidden in the house or backyard. That shows that every method has its drawbacks and nothing is absolutely safe.
Your bracelet looks beautiful and quite secretive, but can you guarantee that if you encounter a strong impact it will not fall out of your hand? Don't be too subjective, everything has its risks.

[kotajikikox]

Well if its written or engraved in a steel plate or titanium sheet then I think it is fine as long as its in a static position, I mean the sheet will not be sweep away or anything because even a steel or titanium plate could be torn apart against that kind of flood, but I dont think anyone that  has a treasure like that would let it, I mean of course that kind of flood will not happen instantly so I'm sure there will be a time for the people to evacuate

Yup you are indeed correct. We must known basic survival skills in case of disaster instead of panicking and overthinking every little thing until it is too late and you have no more chance to evacuate safely.

We all should have an emergency route or plan to make sure that we and anything important are both safe. Do not act late and harshly.

[Dunamisx]

Stompix said it is a flood in Orenburg , Russia. There was flood in Dubai but not this image. But this does not change my question.

This was part of the flood in Dubai recently. The rain that should have fallen in almost 3 years fell in just one day and the whole of the city were flooded.



It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

Why do you think many thoughts about the use of some of these materials for storing seed phrase, it's because of their durability, resistance and nature of the material element they were made up with, which should be able to resist water and fire to an extent, then the other advantage we can have is when we hare having an alternative means of storing our seeds, this will help us to achieve maximum protection over the use in case of any danger under unforseen conditions.

[Kristiyana]

Well I think the answer is yes" flood can not destroy a steel or titanium sheet,it can only move the steel from that particular place you kept it, that's if the flood came with erosion probably if you kept it inside the house maybe after the flood you might see it outside the house. However I think the best way to keep your seed phrase save in terms of natural disaster is by saving it in your Gmail account, but you need to make sure you have the Gmail password off hand.

[Ale88]

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

As I understand what the OP is trying to say, the OP is pointing out the disadvantages when we use steel plates to store seed phrase and they are hidden in the house or backyard. That shows that every method has its drawbacks and nothing is absolutely safe.
Your bracelet looks beautiful and quite secretive, but can you guarantee that if you encounter a strong impact it will not fall out of your hand? Don't be too subjective, everything has its risks.

An earthquake is a completely different matter compared to a flood because your house can actually collapse completely. The main difference is where you live because if you have you own private house then you should still be able to find your steel plate; if you live in an apartment complex, maybe a big one, and it collapses then there would be so much debris that it becomes almost impossible to find it. Maybe a solution could be to place it inside some kind of strongbox colored/painted with some very bright color, like they do with plane's black boxes.

[Stalker22]

For a Titanium coated sheet,  if it is spared and not washed away, then the seed phrase will be safe. On the contrary, steel is not resistant to sea water under prolonged exposure, so seed phrase engraved in steel coated sheet is not safe when exposed to sea water. 

Sea water wont be a big problem if you use stainless steel, which you really should.  Sure, almost any iron alloy will rust eventually, but stainless steel will hold up for a long time.

[Marvelman]

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

As I understand what the OP is trying to say, the OP is pointing out the disadvantages when we use steel plates to store seed phrase and they are hidden in the house or backyard. That shows that every method has its drawbacks and nothing is absolutely safe.
Your bracelet looks beautiful and quite secretive, but can you guarantee that if you encounter a strong impact it will not fall out of your hand? Don't be too subjective, everything has its risks.

An earthquake is a completely different matter compared to a flood because your house can actually collapse completely. The main difference is where you live because if you have you own private house then you should still be able to find your steel plate; if you live in an apartment complex, maybe a big one, and it collapses then there would be so much debris that it becomes almost impossible to find it. Maybe a solution could be to place it inside some kind of strongbox colored/painted with some very bright color, like they do with plane's black boxes.

This sparked an idea - securing the steel plate in a heavy-duty strongbox that's bolted to your home's foundation seems like a logical next step.  That anchoring would provide some protection if the structure collapses.  And I wonder if hiding one of those tiny GPS tracking devices (like people use to monitor pets) inside the strongbox or even embedding it into the steel itself would allow the plate to be located later in the debris.  Just a couple ideas to think about.

[fuguebtc]

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

As I understand what the OP is trying to say, the OP is pointing out the disadvantages when we use steel plates to store seed phrase and they are hidden in the house or backyard. That shows that every method has its drawbacks and nothing is absolutely safe.
Your bracelet looks beautiful and quite secretive, but can you guarantee that if you encounter a strong impact it will not fall out of your hand? Don't be too subjective, everything has its risks.

An earthquake is a completely different matter compared to a flood because your house can actually collapse completely. The main difference is where you live because if you have you own private house then you should still be able to find your steel plate; if you live in an apartment complex, maybe a big one, and it collapses then there would be so much debris that it becomes almost impossible to find it. Maybe a solution could be to place it inside some kind of strongbox colored/painted with some very bright color, like they do with plane's black boxes.

This sparked an idea - securing the steel plate in a heavy-duty strongbox that's bolted to your home's foundation seems like a logical next step.  That anchoring would provide some protection if the structure collapses.  And I wonder if hiding one of those tiny GPS tracking devices (like people use to monitor pets) inside the strongbox or even embedding it into the steel itself would allow the plate to be located later in the debris.  Just a couple ideas to think about.

Too many ideas and none of them can guarantee absolute safety here. Personally, I think depending on the geographical area, weather situation, security as well as a combination of many other factors, we choose which method we think is the safest for us. We don't need to use other people's ways for ourselves when our circumstances and living environments are completely different.

Personally, I am very safe with backing up the seed phrase with a notebook and a copy saved on a USB, I have been safe with this method for many years and I will continue to use them.

[kryptqnick]

Floods are a problem in some parts of the world, and they are going to become a bigger problem in the future because of climate change. A paper seed is a bad idea because of it, but I think that even something fairly simple like having a piece of paper laminated can be enough to withstand water damage.
My problem with a steel sheet is its weight, so it's not only going to sink, but it's also not going to be a priority for gathering minimal things during the flood when getting out. A laminated piece of paper can get carried away very easily, which is why it should be put in some sort of bag along with other essential documents.

[philipma1957]

First off the plate needs to be in a water proof box.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09X2RR6F6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AIW3ELUIMUT4F&psc=1


and that needs to be a bigger box.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S8133TH/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1OPA7OUBSDTFY&psc=1


if the sheet is double boxed
and coded along  with a return address in the double box. then place in a flood resistant place

that will not be crushed you should be okay.

[aoluain]

Steel or Titanium?

If its Steel it needs to be Stainless Steel and there are different grades of SS available for different
applications but generally SS does not corrode like mild or carbon steel.

Any other steel wouldnt be recommended because of corrosion.

The same goes for Titanium, it doesnt corrode so a seed phrase stamped onto either of those two
metals will survive a flood, i.e Water!

Normally what has been suggested in other threads is that a "seed plate" should be attached to
something in your house or garage, something kind of inaccessible or hard to reach and out of
plain view obviously so if that is the case it wouldnt get swept away by the receding current.

[tranthidung]

Steel or Titanium?

If its Steel it needs to be Stainless Steel and there are different grades of SS available for different
applications but generally SS does not corrode like mild or carbon steel.

Any other steel wouldnt be recommended because of corrosion.

The same goes for Titanium, it doesnt corrode so a seed phrase stamped onto either of those two
metals will survive a flood, i.e Water!

Lopp did his tests and wrote a review on Metal Bitcoin storage reviews

See the Corrosion tabs for more details.

The author provides a helpful sortable Google sheet too
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1poBdHCVrd5eErAWySjSBoKh2f_6VCHsy3ForvL8JCRE/edit#gid=197446072

[Saint-loup]

Yes actually the biggest danger of floods is not oxidation/corrosion as some people seem to think, but to carry away your steel wallet instead. That's why it's also important to strongly attach it to the ground or to a solid wall at least, especially if you don't keep it at a high place. But the most safe option is to put several backups in different locations far from each other.  

[dothebeats]

As long as the steel or titanium sheet is still intact, it can survive a flooding. The rust buildup due to the flood can be removed with the right tools anyway, but then it's better to make sure that the engraving on these steel or titanium sheet is deep enough to not get destroyed by the rust remover.

You can also just keep multiple copies of your seedphrase in different locations that you only know. Just use a randomized pattern for your seedphrase or a puzzle of some sort that you know and you will be safe from such natural disasters destroying your holdings.

[m2017]

It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

Physically (chemically) a steel (if stainless) or titanium sheet will withstand flooding (water), and the person who finds your seed phrase on it will thank you for such forethought. A piece of steel metal will rust in water and staying it in water for a long time will make the seed phrase unreadable.

In the event of a flood, the threat comes not from the impact of water, but from its consequences: when the water recedes, then with the ebb of the tide, unfixed objects can float away, even metallic ones, especially small ones like your sheet.

You can avoid this in a simple way:
- store the sheet on the upper floors or in the attic, where water ingress is unlikely;
or store it in the basement, from where the water will not go up when it decreases, but will remain below ground level, which means that the sheet will not float away being carried away by the current.
- be sure to fix the sheet on (or inside) stable structural elements of the house, such as walls, beams, foundations and the like.

[Marvelman]

This seems like a good alternative to a flood-resistant steel plate. I wonder what kind of tool I would need to engrave my seed phrase on something like this?



 

[Plaguedeath]

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

As I understand what the OP is trying to say, the OP is pointing out the disadvantages when we use steel plates to store seed phrase and they are hidden in the house or backyard. That shows that every method has its drawbacks and nothing is absolutely safe.
Your bracelet looks beautiful and quite secretive, but can you guarantee that if you encounter a strong impact it will not fall out of your hand? Don't be too subjective, everything has its risks.

Even there was no warn from the government, you don't have to panic because you need to wear the bracelet all the time, even you're sleeping, you're still wear the bracelet.

Every method has it's drawbacks, but this solution is the most safest.

If you see this solutions is too subjective, how about heavy flood that mentioned by @OP? it's also subjective since natural disasters didn't happen in every country and high unlikely to happen.

[shield132]

Flood isn't something that will occur randomly, your government should had warn the citizen for upcoming big flood. If I live in a country where extreme floods is nothing new, I would wear secret stash bracelet. Change the keys with laminated paper which I wrote my seed phrase, so it can resist against water.

No one will know if my bracelet contain almost all of my wealth.


https://www.yankodesign.com/2013/04/16/wear-your-secret-stash/

This is a great idea to keep private keys safe, there is a very low chance that someone will lose bracelet or will become a victim of theft because it looks like a very cheap bracelet. I think Rings are also a good way to store keys safely. If you use a micro printer to print private keys and somehow attach it to the ring safely, it can be a good way.

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

Erdogan arrested many building contractors because of that accident. The problem was that they were allegedly involved in shoddy and illegal construction methods. As far as I remember, the built quality was low and there wasn't a correct seismic analysis done.

[Outhue]

Stompix said it is a flood in Orenburg , Russia. There was flood in Dubai but not this image. But this does not change my question.

This was part of the flood in Dubai recently. The rain that should have fallen in almost 3 years fell in just one day and the whole of the city were flooded.



It is possible that doors and windows and wardrobes were broken. Can steel or titanium sheet survive this? It might probably has been swept away from the house into the ocean.

To say the truth, even heavy metals will be swept away in this type of natural disaster, even if its kept in a iron box, this is the type of disaster where nothing will be saved from, but such things happen in countries where its possible, so if I am living in such country I will have to find a way to keep my recovery seed save.

Mind you, this disaster doesn't happen in a blink of an eye, water invades very slowly until it gets this big, so there will be a lot of time to take your neccesary stuffs and keep them safe, so if you have imprinted your recovery seed on stainless steel you need to grab it from the safe and end for a safer location.

Nature disasters are very common in some countries, you should be prepared for anything if you are from such countries, still, carving your recovery seed into a stainless steel is a very safe practice, to me atleast, these type of natural disasters don't happen in my country, unless a fire outbreak due to some incident, but its better to always be ready for anything.

[Marvelman]

So do you remember the terrible earthquake and collapse that happened in Türkiye and do you think there will be any technology advanced enough to know the full extent of mother nature's fury? It seems like you are trying to blame the government for the natural disasters caused by mother nature.

Erdogan arrested many building contractors because of that accident. The problem was that they were allegedly involved in shoddy and illegal construction methods. As far as I remember, the built quality was low and there wasn't a correct seismic analysis done.

Unfortunately, these arrests are late and futile when such a disaster has already happened. That's exactly the construction mafia at work. I bet almost every country has that problem, especially if the inspections are inadequate and corrupt.

[Fiasem20]

Natural disasters have always been an issue on how to ensure our seed phrase are secured and in a safe location.Natural disaster like flood to be precise destroy lots of properties so it would be a good idea to write our seeds phrase on steel/titanium that cannot be destroyed by flood due it strong metallic properties.For the fact that steel and titanium cannot be destroyed by flood but it can be carried away by the water so it's in our position to keep our steel/titanium seed phrase in a safe place that's not affected by flood.And also seed phrase backup is very much important incase previous seed phrase are lost.