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April 28, 2024, 06:58:21 AM
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As the protests against Gaza genocide and US regime's support of it grows, more armed forces are being deployed to universities and colleges across America to suppress and arrest anybody who dares say "stop genocide of Palestinians".
Over 600 students have already been arrested in only a couple of days! Students that were saying "don't give our money to the Zionists who keep murdering children". The same Zionist terrorists who regularly murder European and American citizens with their own money/weapons, who also killed 7 more international aid workers in Gaza this week.

Some time ago someone asked about freedom of speech in USA and my respond below has a clear manifestation
You are allowed to say things that the regime likes, otherwise it will be silenced.
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These days some people are comparing these protests with the 1968 protest against the Vietnam war which is a wrong comparison if you ask me. At the end of the day, Vietnam was just another war by the warmongering US regime. Protesting against it was just protesting against a war.
Israel (Zionists to be exact) on the other hand is behind the scenes owning the US regime. This is why they can openly and freely threaten Americans from the other side of the world and not even have their funding cut off. Protesting against this terrorist organization is protesting against a "deep" infestation of Zionists in the U.S.A. that controls everything... to see the tip of the iceberg look up how many people were fired by companies like Google as an example over the past couple of months, employees who dared say "stop the genocide"...


What I'm also curious about is whether any of these so called "human rights" organizations give a shit about young girls such as this one who are currently being traumatized inside the Police Department receiving a body cavity search (read legalized rape)?

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April 28, 2024, 07:22:39 AM
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There's no freedom of speech in U.S.A reason being that when your speech those not support what the government wants you will be haunted by the U.S government.
The Palestinian government brought this to there citizens they never thought of there citizens before choosing the part of war, I feel for there citizens right now.
The life of human should be taken seriously no matter what, is time for the U.S government to stop the genocide of Palestine citizens the foolishness of there government should not make the innocent citizens suffer.
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April 28, 2024, 08:25:50 AM
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Actually, there is freedom of speech in America. What there isn't is the knowledge of how to maintain it in court.

In America, if you want to maintain your freedom of speech when they take you to court - and loads of other freedoms - you have to stand as a man (or woman).

I don't mean macho. I mean unrepresented by an attorney or even by yourself. Stand present, not represented, and the other side can't be represented either.

A simple example is, if the IRS takes you to court, when you stand present, you can require to face your accuser... get him on the stand where you can question him under oath about the accusations he has accused you with. Since the IRS always takes a man/woman to court as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on the indictment, get the THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on the stand so that you can question your accuser.

When there isn't any representation, they can't do it. There isn't any man or woman who is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Case dismissed. But require that it be discharged. And know what you are doing before you do it this way.

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April 29, 2024, 01:02:02 AM
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I heard about students in the United States being detained, just during the demonstrations against what was going on in Gaza.
I don't have the full context on what they were arrested for, since it is pretty clear the right to freely express oneself is supposed to be sacred in a country like the United States, in my opinion...
The problem comes when students like those are being accused of hate crimes or even of being antisemitic, only because they cannot condone the murder of thousands of people who did not have anything to do with Hamas.

One is not supposed to underestimate the influence the State of Israel can have over the government of Joe Biden and the amount of lobbyist who are likely spending much time in the halls of the US capitol, pressuring lawmakers to move faster with the approval of weapons for Israel and minimize the covering of the Palestinian casualties in the news.

It is not about being conspiratorial but rather about staying alert on the human right violations being carried out by either side on this conflict.

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April 29, 2024, 07:38:08 AM
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Actually, there is freedom of speech in America. What there isn't is the knowledge of how to maintain it in court.

In America, if you want to maintain your freedom of speech when they take you to court - and loads of other freedoms - you have to stand as a man (or woman).

I don't mean macho. I mean unrepresented by an attorney or even by yourself. Stand present, not represented, and the other side can't be represented either.

A simple example is, if the IRS takes you to court, when you stand present, you can require to face your accuser... get him on the stand where you can question him under oath about the accusations he has accused you with. Since the IRS always takes a man/woman to court as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on the indictment, get the THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on the stand so that you can question your accuser.

When there isn't any representation, they can't do it. There isn't any man or woman who is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Case dismissed. But require that it be discharged. And know what you are doing before you do it this way.

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Expressing your right to freedom of speech shouldnt land you up in court.

It looks like the US is very much uncomfortable with its own citizens taking issue
publicly with what is going on in Gaza and how they are on one hand voicing their call
for restraint from Israel and on the other hand supplying arms to carry out the genocide.



One is not supposed to underestimate the influence the State of Israel can have over the government of Joe Biden and the amount of lobbyist who are likely spending much time in the halls of the US capitol, pressuring lawmakers to move faster with the approval of weapons for Israel and minimize the covering of the Palestinian casualties in the news.
 

Its not just over the government of Joe Biden, its US every government that they have influence
over. They are a powerful and very successful lobby group


It is not about being conspiratorial but rather about staying alert on the human right violations being carried out by either side on this conflict.

Well there is plenty of reports about the human rights violations but there is damn
all being done about it.

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April 29, 2024, 02:22:52 PM
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The number of students arrested surpassed 900!


P.S. Let me leave this here as one example out of millions of WHY these students are protesting in case someone still doesn't know
https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2024/04/25/at-least-20-palestinians-feared-buried-alive-at-gazas-nasser-hospital-civil-defence-says/
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The bodies of 392 people, including children, have been found in the graves since they were discovered on Saturday, civil defence chief Yamen Abu Sulaiman said. Most have not been identified.

"We believe that the occupation buried alive at least 20 people at the Nasser Medical Complex," Mr Abu Suleiman said, adding that some bodies bore signs of mutilation and torture.

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 The world is burning under the watch of Joe Biden. The United States I know doesn't support genocide,doesn't stand and watch innocent men,women and children been murdered in cold blood.The united states I know will defend and protect the vulnerable no matter the cost. Human lives doesn't matter anymore in gaza. When I look at the Television and watch how dead bodies of innocent Palestine scattered all over the street makes me hate the Israeli people. I'm so much happy seeing valiant youths in the united States protesting against this injustice on the people of Palestine,let them keep on arresting. One thing is certain,the voice of the people must be heard and will always prevail.
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Over 2300 students were arrested in 49 universities across United States only because they were saying: "Stop the Genocide of Palestinians"!!!


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It makes me think how the most democratic country in the world in which the constitution is build in the first of all rules in the free speech is showing such signs of aggression.I am neutral and do not want to judge any country or anyone but it is completely unprecedented for America to behave in such a brutal way against their youth and arresting thousands of them,what is even worse I think it shows that the Americans and America is owned by Israelis as they immediately put a law who passed through their congress and was approved that anyone who talked bad about Jews would be antisemitic and prosecuted putting fear into their citizens.I just have one question now,where is the difference between USA and Russia,I am just disgusted at the world not anymore double standard but hundred standards,I personally do not believe anyone but me from quite some time now.

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Actually, there is freedom of speech in America. What there isn't is the knowledge of how to maintain it in court.

In America, if you want to maintain your freedom of speech when they take you to court - and loads of other freedoms - you have to stand as a man (or woman).

I don't mean macho. I mean unrepresented by an attorney or even by yourself. Stand present, not represented, and the other side can't be represented either.

A simple example is, if the IRS takes you to court, when you stand present, you can require to face your accuser... get him on the stand where you can question him under oath about the accusations he has accused you with. Since the IRS always takes a man/woman to court as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on the indictment, get the THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on the stand so that you can question your accuser.

When there isn't any representation, they can't do it. There isn't any man or woman who is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Case dismissed. But require that it be discharged. And know what you are doing before you do it this way.

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Expressing your right to freedom of speech shouldnt land you up in court.

It looks like the US is very much uncomfortable with its own citizens taking issue
publicly with what is going on in Gaza and how they are on one hand voicing their call
for restraint from Israel and on the other hand supplying arms to carry out the genocide.



One is not supposed to underestimate the influence the State of Israel can have over the government of Joe Biden and the amount of lobbyist who are likely spending much time in the halls of the US capitol, pressuring lawmakers to move faster with the approval of weapons for Israel and minimize the covering of the Palestinian casualties in the news.
 

Its not just over the government of Joe Biden, its US every government that they have influence
over. They are a powerful and very successful lobby group


It is not about being conspiratorial but rather about staying alert on the human right violations being carried out by either side on this conflict.

Well there is plenty of reports about the human rights violations but there is damn
all being done about it.

Right, when comes to Israel and the defense of the State of Israel there seems to be no meaningful difference between the democrat party and the Republican party and that is very telling. It is very astonishing how bipartisan they can be when comes to the defense of a foreign nation but they cannot get together to try to tackle problems the average American people are still trying to figure out: gun violence, taxation, free speech, the prosecution of criminals and corporate corruption buying power in Washington.
I believe if both parties managed to be as bipartisan as they are for Israel when comes to other problems in their own land, they their country would be one of the happiest in the American continent, but as stands now, it is just a dream which is unlikely to come true as long as they have the duopoly on the politics and continue to fool the people.

The USA would me tougher on Israel and demand for actual accountability against those who have violated Human Rights.

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put a law who passed through their congress and was approved that anyone who talked bad about Jews would be antisemitic and prosecuted putting fear into their citizens.
Correction: the law is about anybody who says anything negative about Israel and anybody who complains about the genocide Israel is committing. Otherwise the Zionists occupying Palestine do not care at all about Jews nor Jews care about Israel because Israel is and has never been a "Jewish state" it has always been a Zionist state.

Do you know what the scariest thing for Israel is these days and what it is they are censoring? It is videos like this. Jews who are protesting and chanting "down with Israel" and burn the Israeli flag inside United States!

Here's a screenshot of their most recent protest. These American Jews are chanting: "Down Down with the Terrorist State of Israel" inside United States of America, in New York.

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Youtube happen to suggest me a vlog reporting from a Youtube Tyler Oliveira about the Jew Muslim conflict in US and I like the way he reported it. I might too be a bit biased or uninformed but I felt his coverage was neutral. The message I got from the video is US is still a good place for freedom of speech. The Israel-Gaza conflict doesn't directly affect the US society but they are concerned and many people hope for peace and reconciliation. There are two group of people that are making the situation worse, one are the extremist that believes their religion has the god forsaken right to the lands and another group of people that are trying to be relevant and stand out while they know nothing of the situation and other similar group that happens to seek relevancy in countering the mob idea.



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The message I got from the video is US is still a good place for freedom of speech.
Freedom of Speech must not have any excluded topics, if there are any topics you are not allowed to exercise your right within the accepted framework then there is no Freedom of Speech at all. For example you can go to North Korea and praise Un all day long and exercise your "freedom of speech" that way but the moment you criticize the DPRK you'll realize you never had any freedom of speech to begin with.

It's the same in United States of America. You can go there and praise the US regimes funding and support of genocide all day long and you get the illusion of having freedom of speech but the moment you criticize it and demand that your tax money is not sent to the child murderers they'll do this to you:

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