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May 16, 2024, 11:20:51 AM
 #101

Use Pareto Principle, which mean 20% are successful while 80% aren't.

You can see there are many successful casinos in this forum, but you didn't see if there are many new casinos that trying to build their reputation and offer many promotions, but they still can't earn the trust from the gamblers.

What works in other, doesn't mean it will works on you and vice versa.

Yeah, 20% of the companies make 80% of the revenue.

It's a normal thing to see in many areas in life. I don't think you can change that. It seems to be a normal thing in life.

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May 16, 2024, 11:40:52 AM
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I think they're profitable, they wouldn't be here if it weren't the case right? Also, the maintenance is pretty much not that difficult, there's an AMA thread here about managing an online casino and there the OP talked about the pros and cons and the FAQs of running an online casino, it's a pretty good thread but I forgot the name of the thread and the OP but someone will definitely link it here, of that I'm sure.

For sure it is they will not come up with this business if they think its not profitable for them to operate this kind of business. But success will not always come up with those owners which build this kind of Business since marketing is important factor to make their casino became successful. Those people planning to build up some business like this should remember that there's a lot of competitors in this industry and they need to spend a lot of money to create something huge exposure so that they will stand out among their competitor to earn huge success.

If they don't have big budget for running this operation then I guess the same with other casino who already stop their operation then they might experience the same faith with them. To avoid such thing to happen then I guess its really better for them to be financially prepared for whatever they need to do to make their casino as successful running business in crypto casino industry.

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May 16, 2024, 01:29:56 PM
 #103

I think they're profitable, they wouldn't be here if it weren't the case right? Also, the maintenance is pretty much not that difficult, there's an AMA thread here about managing an online casino and there the OP talked about the pros and cons and the FAQs of running an online casino, it's a pretty good thread but I forgot the name of the thread and the OP but someone will definitely link it here, of that I'm sure.

For sure it is they will not come up with this business if they think its not profitable for them to operate this kind of business. But success will not always come up with those owners which build this kind of Business since marketing is important factor to make their casino became successful. Those people planning to build up some business like this should remember that there's a lot of competitors in this industry and they need to spend a lot of money to create something huge exposure so that they will stand out among their competitor to earn huge success.

If they don't have big budget for running this operation then I guess the same with other casino who already stop their operation then they might experience the same faith with them. To avoid such thing to happen then I guess its really better for them to be financially prepared for whatever they need to do to make their casino as successful running business in crypto casino industry.
You know some people think that running a casino is as cheap as they think even though it seems to be that much very lucrative but at least as CEO or co-founder they should be self funded before looking out to make profits, at the main time it's the way to attract audience is something to look about because when you gain no attention then your casino is less to be noticeable to used but, with self funded they can run so many advertisement and promotion to attract people into the casino especially also running a signature campaign is another cool way.

After which, the next is reputation and that comes when people keeps using the casino and has no bad records for their time being then people would start recommending their friends and relatives to use the casino just lot of people are doing here in this forum, when they request for a trusted casino you would see few people mentioning same casino that is to say that they had already been established over here.



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May 19, 2024, 04:12:08 PM
 #104

You know some people think that running a casino is as cheap as they think even though it seems to be that much very lucrative but at least as CEO or co-founder they should be self funded before looking out to make profits, at the main time it's the way to attract audience is something to look about because when you gain no attention then your casino is less to be noticeable to used but, with self funded they can run so many advertisement and promotion to attract people into the casino especially also running a signature campaign is another cool way.

After which, the next is reputation and that comes when people keeps using the casino and has no bad records for their time being then people would start recommending their friends and relatives to use the casino just lot of people are doing here in this forum, when they request for a trusted casino you would see few people mentioning same casino that is to say that they had already been established over here.
If there are users out there which think running a casino is cheap then they could not be more mistaken about it, it was possibly true at one time that creating a casino may not have been that expensive, but this is not true anymore, now a casino requires experts on security to protect themselves and their customers from hackers, a marketing campaign to let people know that a new casino was created, bonuses and a huge casino bankroll to pay their customers, and all of that costs money, so it would not surprise me if a few million dollars were needed just to start a casino operation these days.
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May 20, 2024, 02:39:20 PM
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If there are users out there which think running a casino is cheap then they could not be more mistaken about it, it was possibly true at one time that creating a casino may not have been that expensive, but this is not true anymore, now a casino requires experts on security to protect themselves and their customers from hackers, a marketing campaign to let people know that a new casino was created, bonuses and a huge casino bankroll to pay their customers, and all of that costs money, so it would not surprise me if a few million dollars were needed just to start a casino operation these days.

The thing is that it is expensive to start it, but once it is running, then the money is running towards you.

Sure, there are expenses, but that is nothing compared to the amount of money they make from gamblers

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May 22, 2024, 11:22:51 PM
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They are one of the most profitable businesses online. Still, the industry also has a stiff business, it's getting better each year and the competition is getting stiffer every year.

Casinos sponsor big events and we see big personalities betting on these online casinos and we see new players in the online casinos coming almost every week challenging big players and wanting to take a slice of the bi pie

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Revenue in the Online Gambling market is projected to reach US$100.90bn in 2024.
Revenue is expected to show an annual growth rate (CAGR 2024-2029) of 6.20%, resulting in a projected market volume of US$136.30bn by 2029.

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Another way to make money with casinos (in addition to casino signature campaigns that we participate in) is if you are a known influencer, you can partner to promote gamble games with your link, this way you either earn via referral or through stories with values and number of stores agreed with the company.

This is a rage here in brazil, it's usually even easier if the influencer is a woman, this way she uses her seductive beauty by filming parts of her body and then there are some stories promoting the platform LMAO

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May 22, 2024, 11:51:45 PM
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I think so too because most of the time, you don't even need to put in a lot of effort like what other online businesses do with their business, you can pay small ads in Google for your website promotion and you just watch people trickle in, trying this new website that's basically a barebone or generic type of gambling website and you'd still see profit, you don't even need to put in a lot of effort, do you think that Amazon would grow to this point if Bezos put the same effort you put in a gambling business? I don't think so.

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May 26, 2024, 04:32:10 PM
 #108

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If there are users out there which think running a casino is cheap then they could not be more mistaken about it, it was possibly true at one time that creating a casino may not have been that expensive, but this is not true anymore, now a casino requires experts on security to protect themselves and their customers from hackers, a marketing campaign to let people know that a new casino was created, bonuses and a huge casino bankroll to pay their customers, and all of that costs money, so it would not surprise me if a few million dollars were needed just to start a casino operation these days.

The thing is that it is expensive to start it, but once it is running, then the money is running towards you.

Sure, there are expenses, but that is nothing compared to the amount of money they make from gamblers
Casinos are without a doubt a very profitable business, which is why we see new ones appear every single month, but it is highly unlikely for success to be immediate, and instead it may take months or even a year for a casino to begin to generate profits, and during all that time the casino needs to survive with the money it gathered from its investors, so it is not easy to get to that point in which a casino is generating a huge amount of money to their owners.
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May 26, 2024, 04:50:52 PM
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I think so too because most of the time, you don't even need to put in a lot of effort like what other online businesses do with their business, you can pay small ads in Google for your website promotion and you just watch people trickle in, trying this new website that's basically a barebone or generic type of gambling website and you'd still see profit, you don't even need to put in a lot of effort, do you think that Amazon would grow to this point if Bezos put the same effort you put in a gambling business? I don't think so.
Of course casinos are very productive especially in countries and geographical regions where there are a majority of gamblers especially in locations where gambling isn't condemned and is fully legal. Gambling casinos are definitely a productive setup on the side of both the casino and the gamblers however gamblers on the other hand should avoid making gambling their full time job as it can turn out to be very unproductive instead of being productive.
Working as a staff at a traditional and regular casinos is Also a nice job especially in popular gambling locations. The fact is gambling is undoubtedly very popular and therefore the engagements in different parts of the world is very high but is relatively lower in regions where gambling is regarded as illegal by the government.
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Of course casinos are very productive especially in countries and geographical regions where there are a majority of gamblers especially in locations where gambling isn't condemned and is fully legal. Gambling casinos are definitely a productive setup on the side of both the casino and the gamblers however gamblers on the other hand should avoid making gambling their full time job as it can turn out to be very unproductive instead of being productive.
Working as a staff at a traditional and regular casinos is Also a nice job especially in popular gambling locations. The fact is gambling is undoubtedly very popular and therefore the engagements in different parts of the world is very high but is relatively lower in regions where gambling is regarded as illegal by the government.
Certainly working in an cryptocasino, whether in the IT area as a technical support analyst and responsible for Marketing and SEO or even as a community manager, is a great way to enter this ecosystem professionally. Even though we already work (or would it be extra income?) participating in casino signature campaigns is quite exciting too. Because our posts, especially if they are old and useful, will have a better chance of attracting customers to the casino.

Here in my country, gambling is prohibited, but as long as it is an online casino (physical casinos are prohibited here) and regulated by the government, paying taxes, it can operate here, and has attracted more and more customers, especially sports betting. It's already becoming a trend here.

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May 26, 2024, 10:19:34 PM
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Working as a staff at a traditional and regular casinos is Also a nice job especially in popular gambling locations.
They pay is great to be honest and that's why they can afford to pay that because their revenue is great.

The fact is gambling is undoubtedly very popular and therefore the engagements in different parts of the world is very high but is relatively lower in regions where gambling is regarded as illegal by the government.
There's no market in the areas where gambling is restricted or mainly the online casinos. While it's a huge industry and I don't know how much it is already coming from the report last year alone in US which is $130B.

That means it's a very lucrative business and keeps on booming and while each country starts to have their own gaming/gambling business that are legalized by their government because tax is big so they oblige and support.

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Casinos are without a doubt a very profitable business, which is why we see new ones appear every single month, but it is highly unlikely for success to be immediate, and instead it may take months or even a year for a casino to begin to generate profits, and during all that time the casino needs to survive with the money it gathered from its investors, so it is not easy to get to that point in which a casino is generating a huge amount of money to their owners.

It is indeed a tricky business, because there is a lot of regulations around it.

But, if you manage to bring people in, and make sure no one hacks your casino, then it is a really lucrative business.

Most governments will want to have a slice of the pie as well, so many fees are just part of doing business.

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I think so too because most of the time, you don't even need to put in a lot of effort like what other online businesses do with their business, you can pay small ads in Google for your website promotion and you just watch people trickle in, trying this new website that's basically a barebone or generic type of gambling website and you'd still see profit, you don't even need to put in a lot of effort, do you think that Amazon would grow to this point if Bezos put the same effort you put in a gambling business? I don't think so.
Of course casinos are very productive especially in countries and geographical regions where there are a majority of gamblers especially in locations where gambling isn't condemned and is fully legal. Gambling casinos are definitely a productive setup on the side of both the casino and the gamblers however gamblers on the other hand should avoid making gambling their full time job as it can turn out to be very unproductive instead of being productive.
Working as a staff at a traditional and regular casinos is Also a nice job especially in popular gambling locations. The fact is gambling is undoubtedly very popular and therefore the engagements in different parts of the world is very high but is relatively lower in regions where gambling is regarded as illegal by the government.
Casinos make money, especially in economically depressed places. They generate tourists, jobs, and tax revenue for public services. This business model guarantees the house wins. Gambling is an issue. Everyone has heard of people losing their clothing, houses, and families. Most gamblers should enjoy themselves, not become professionals. A clever gambler recognizes the odds and plays for fun, not profit

Working in a casino? Yes, it's a legitimate job. Not everyone likes it. A fast-paced, long-hours atmosphere shows the best and worst of human nature. You handle people's dreams, hopes, and misery. A heavy show. Interesting: locations where gambling is outlawed or culturally taboo have fewer drawbacks. Social values matter as much as law

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Casinos make money, especially in economically depressed places. They generate tourists, jobs, and tax revenue for public services. This business model guarantees the house wins. Gambling is an issue. Everyone has heard of people losing their clothing, houses, and families. Most gamblers should enjoy themselves, not become professionals. A clever gambler recognizes the odds and plays for fun, not profit

Working in a casino? Yes, it's a legitimate job. Not everyone likes it. A fast-paced, long-hours atmosphere shows the best and worst of human nature. You handle people's dreams, hopes, and misery. A heavy show. Interesting: locations where gambling is outlawed or culturally taboo have fewer drawbacks. Social values matter as much as law

I would argue there are almost no professional gamblers.

In the sense that professional means you are getting paid to do something. That's where the term "go pro" comes from. Say a skater goes pro, that means they are paid to skate.

A gambler that dedicates all their time to gamble is not a professional gambler, because for most of them they end up paying to gamble. The opposite.

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Do they make more profit than digital banks, CEX exchanges, etc.?
I will say they are because online casino are able to reach a lot more range of users on the long run. Most online casinos are easily accessible with nice odds and so gamblers who understands how they work would rather prefer gambling online than going for local betting. Loca betting requires physical activities and one has to monitor his game up to the winnings so he won't b cheated. But online casino all you do is play your game or place bets. So all these put together would drive more users to the online casino making them more profitable.

They are very profitable but not the only profitable digital business,cause there have been a rise in different digital business but online crypto casinos tend to top cause if their efficiency in various aspect whereby making it easier for for smooth and effective access to the sites and all that.
And they are more profitable cause of the wide range of users that gamble's online.

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Although, as we know, the number of players is increasing every year, this does not mean that we will open our own casino and it is guaranteed to start making us a profit. This is a risky business in which spheres of influence can be divided and other pitfalls can be hidden that are absolutely not exposed to view. I know at least one person who tried to open a casino, but only got losses and lost a lot of money. Because after several months of work there was still no income. Here you need a large supply of money that will allow you to stay afloat for at least 1 year, and preferably 2, and this obviously requires a lot of money.

As you correctly noted, advertising is one of the main things for a casino, because it must be recognized, people must remember about it, and when the player comes home in boredom, he launches and places a bet. Many people imagine only the profits of this business, but they forget how many casinos have already collapsed as a business.

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May 28, 2024, 04:24:42 PM
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Casinos make money, especially in economically depressed places. They generate tourists, jobs, and tax revenue for public services. This business model guarantees the house wins. Gambling is an issue. Everyone has heard of people losing their clothing, houses, and families. Most gamblers should enjoy themselves, not become professionals. A clever gambler recognizes the odds and plays for fun, not profit

Working in a casino? Yes, it's a legitimate job. Not everyone likes it. A fast-paced, long-hours atmosphere shows the best and worst of human nature. You handle people's dreams, hopes, and misery. A heavy show. Interesting: locations where gambling is outlawed or culturally taboo have fewer drawbacks. Social values matter as much as law
You are right, and according to this statement, unfortunately, most gamblers are not clever because you will barely find a lot of gamblers who are willing to understand that the odds are stacked against them and they should gamble for fun and not for profits, and those who don't understand this and go for profits will need to face negative consequences for their actions.

A clever gambler will always gamble responsibly, they will decide a time and a budget for their gambling activities and they will stick to it. They won't get greedy when they are winning, and they won't try to recover their losses when they are losing which makes them save a lot of money that they can possibly lose if they don't do these things.

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May 28, 2024, 05:50:55 PM
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I will say online casino is among profitable digital business, buy that does not mean they make more money than exchanges, digital banks. This casinos operate on people's psychology and we must also understand there are still majority who don't get involved.
In terms of profitability I would say we look at it from the angle of reputation,customer base and how frequent people visit. Because online business models depend on branding, there are still some online casino that people do not know about because they lack exposure or poor branding.
This is just a coin being tossed that must first be check specifically not in generalization.
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I will say online casino is among profitable digital business, buy that does not mean they make more money than exchanges, digital banks. This casinos operate on people's psychology and we must also understand there are still majority who don't get involved.
In terms of profitability I would say we look at it from the angle of reputation,customer base and how frequent people visit. Because online business models depend on branding, there are still some online casino that people do not know about because they lack exposure or poor branding.
This is just a coin being tossed that must first be check specifically not in generalization.

At the same time you can argue that the exchanges and digital banks only charge a fraction of the amount being used in their transactions.

Whereas the casinos get the full amount of the people's transactions eventually. That's a massive difference.

Not sure which one earns more in the end but they all get a lot of money.

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May 29, 2024, 09:25:34 AM
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I will say online casino is among profitable digital business, buy that does not mean they make more money than exchanges, digital banks. This casinos operate on people's psychology and we must also understand there are still majority who don't get involved.
In terms of profitability I would say we look at it from the angle of reputation,customer base and how frequent people visit. Because online business models depend on branding, there are still some online casino that people do not know about because they lack exposure or poor branding.
This is just a coin being tossed that must first be check specifically not in generalization.

At the same time you can argue that the exchanges and digital banks only charge a fraction of the amount being used in their transactions.

Whereas the casinos get the full amount of the people's transactions eventually. That's a massive difference.

Not sure which one earns more in the end but they all get a lot of money.

Then if you look at it that way, it is just a matter of the volume the casino, the bank or any digital business receives and the correlation that volume has with the fees or cuts they take from each one of those costumers.
Firstly, we must agree Banks are bigger than most digital casinos and there is a simple reason to it: gambling is a hobby or  form of entertainment for those who engage on it, it is a "want" within the budget of a single person or the head of the household. On the other hand, when comes to banks and financial services, those are a "must, due to how important is for someone liking in this digital era to stay banked and have means to send money to others, even the most modest businesses started by small entreprenours need to use banking services and pay those relatively small fees, for the sake of reaching a bigger base of costumers.

So, while there are indeed small banks as well small casinos, the former depends on a basic transitional and macroeconomic behavior than the popularization of a hobby/ way of entertainment.

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