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April 29, 2024, 07:48:12 AM
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I don't think that online casinos are the most profitable digital business, because to build and operate an online casino requires a lot of money, and I think several million dollars are needed to build such a business with quite high risks. Moreover, there are still several digital business models that generate higher profits compared to online casinos, such as exchange, e-commerce, software as a service, etc.
However, we need to admit that online casinos are a digital business that is currently growing with a fairly high average net income. So many people think that this is the most profitable digital business, even though it is in line with the risks and competition in the casino world which is quite unhealthy.

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April 29, 2024, 08:19:33 AM
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One of the factors that makes me believe this is that there is already a whole audience ready to play in casinos, as they are generally people who bet out of addiction, to make money (or even when they lose, they play just to pass the time). In addition to the fact that there are costs for servers, employees, online attendants, programmers and other costs, unlike physical casinos where the costs are for installations, maintenance, energy and employees and security guards...

Do they make more profit than digital banks, CEX exchanges, etc.?
Anything called digital and that has a presence online will surely have the tasks you listed above as obligations/liabilities they will have to take care of or will always be taking care of as the case may be. Without mincing words, what might be confusing you or obstructing your judgemental sense is the pace at which casinos and sportsbooks are flooding everywhere and opening their shops easily. But do not forget the fact that the ease of doing business doesn't translate to the amount possible to be made in that business. Casinos may start today and before you know it, it will all be done with huge success by investing a small amount and a little effort, which is why many prefer it.

The establishment and the making of money are easier, which includes the running, licencing and regulations. But it is stricter, more tasking and more demanding when dealing with the financial market like the banks, brokerage houses and Exchanges.

Regardless, the profits in the latter are way more than the profits in the casino businesses. However, the size of the establishment matters as well. When they are of the maximum capacity in either field, I will always go for the banks, brokerage houses and exchanges in this regard, they are making money in Billions of dollars yearly and even the CEOs and co-founders are easy billionaires. That can't always be said of online casinos, unless the casinos are just an exception, they are not common.

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April 29, 2024, 09:08:06 AM
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It might seem from this forum that casinos are very lucrative business to run and indeed they are but they are not without their problems. The major casinos out there has to work years behind them to set up their name and brands.

Addicted players will visit the casino every day but there will always be people who will still be able to win a big one and then not play again.

There are different business with difference in prospects. Choose the one that works for you not the one that seems to be best.

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April 29, 2024, 09:18:19 AM
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Exchanges as we know do earn a constant fee on each trade executed using their platform whether a loss or win to the trader their fee is sure to be earned as profit they make for service rendering. And this fee is usually at a certain cent or less.

While for casinos it's a game of the house against the player and Vis-a-vis. It's either the house makes profit from the gambler or the gambler lose to the house in most cases from 1-100 99% is always in favour of the house (casino) based on the hedge they enjoy.

Now a single gambler can lose about $10k at a go on a session to the casino which covers more far than a hundred number of trading fees earned by an exchange. Now do the math that a 100 number of gamblers losses $10k each in a day.  With this I don't need to say who actually makes more profits than the other as it's all a hypothesis  Grin
Bro what did you write? I am not getting your hypothesis. Are you saying that online casinos are more profitable than crypto exchanges in your hypothesis? Well, no one make a categorical statement there are too many dependent variables like environment, regulation, competition, the market. Exchanges go bankrupt. Casinsos also go bankrupt we have read about this happening over again. Both of these businesses are profitable and in my estimation, one is not more profitable than the other.

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April 29, 2024, 10:31:50 AM
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Online casinos and betting sports are indeed some of the most profitable businesses one could find on the internet, I don't have any doubt about it. Though I am not sure whether they are at the top of the pyramid when comes to profitability and liquidity. There are businesses which have nothing to do with gambling or betting on sports and yet they have managed to reach legend status and gone public in the stock Market of the United States.

Amazon was initially an online store for books and started to slowly evolve into a store for all kind of products. And I believe Amazon is bigger than most or all casinos one can find on the gambling market within internet.

At the pace the industry continues to evolve and grow, I would not be surprised some casino managed to overcome some blue chip companies in the stock market, but as stands for now, it is not the rule of the market.

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April 29, 2024, 10:44:24 AM
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Exchanges as we know do earn a constant fee on each trade executed using their platform whether a loss or win to the trader their fee is sure to be earned as profit they make for service rendering. And this fee is usually at a certain cent or less.

While for casinos it's a game of the house against the player and Vis-a-vis. It's either the house makes profit from the gambler or the gambler lose to the house in most cases from 1-100 99% is always in favour of the house (casino) based on the hedge they enjoy.

Now a single gambler can lose about $10k at a go on a session to the casino which covers more far than a hundred number of trading fees earned by an exchange. Now do the math that a 100 number of gamblers losses $10k each in a day.  With this I don't need to say who actually makes more profits than the other as it's all a hypothesis  Grin
Bro what did you write? I am not getting your hypothesis. Are you saying that online casinos are more profitable than crypto exchanges in your hypothesis? Well, no one make a categorical statement there are too many dependent variables like environment, regulation, competition, the market. Exchanges go bankrupt. Casinsos also go bankrupt we have read about this happening over again. Both of these businesses are profitable and in my estimation, one is not more profitable than the other.
Yes mate, that's what my hypothesis is trying to convey. And for the variables as you had pointed out I agree they are all common to both casino's and exchanges, but despite that it's very unlikely that one among the two may not be making much profit than the other. Now, there is an abstract variable you didn't put into consideration concerning casinos which I am quite sure we won't find that with exchanges, and that is addiction.

It is this phenomenon called addiction in gamble that makes larger profits for casinos  irrespective of any dependent variables it doesn't affect this phenomenon. We have have had how a single gambling addict lose millions in a day and all of that money goes to the casino while for a trader it's just a percentage trading fee that goes to the exchanger if a trader lose a trade amounting to millions and not the total money lost to trade. Please read this.

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April 29, 2024, 10:50:55 AM
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Online casinos and betting sports are indeed some of the most profitable businesses one could find on the internet, I don't have any doubt about it. Though I am not sure whether they are at the top of the pyramid when comes to profitability and liquidity. There are businesses which have nothing to do with gambling or betting on sports and yet they have managed to reach legend status and gone public in the stock Market of the United States.

Amazon was initially an online store for books and started to slowly evolve into a store for all kind of products. And I believe Amazon is bigger than most or all casinos one can find on the gambling market within internet.

At the pace the industry continues to evolve and grow, I would not be surprised some casino managed to overcome some blue chip companies in the stock market, but as stands for now, it is not the rule of the market.

I think the most profitable business on the internet today is Ecommerce since all of the needs of a person is easily find there and the competition among the other businesses is quite good and almost all businesses need to keep up with the innovation of their business so that they are not left behind, while online casinos are still profitable but not in the top list because not all people are engaging in online casino, Some of them are doing gambling but half of the population growth of gamblers are still doing the traditional gambling.



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Do they make more profit than digital banks, CEX exchanges, etc.?


They are one of the most profitable businesses online. Still, the industry also has a stiff business, it's getting better each year and the competition is getting stiffer every year.

Casinos sponsor big events and we see big personalities betting on these online casinos and we see new players in the online casinos coming almost every week challenging big players and wanting to take a slice of the bi pie

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Revenue is expected to show an annual growth rate (CAGR 2024-2029) of 6.20%, resulting in a projected market volume of US$136.30bn by 2029.

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I think the most profitable business on the internet today is Ecommerce since all of the needs of a person is easily find there and the competition among the other businesses is quite good and almost all businesses need to keep up with the innovation of their business so that they are not left behind, while online casinos are still profitable but not in the top list because not all people are engaging in online casino, Some of them are doing gambling but half of the population growth of gamblers are still doing the traditional gambling.

Sure, it makes sense still an important percentage of gamblers continue to wager their money in traditional casinos which have their physical headquarters in both big cities and far away towns in the jungle. Actually, if most gamblers exclusively wagered their money on online casinos instead of traditional casinos, then the brick-and-mortar places would not be as profitable as they continue to be to this day.
Perhaps, they continue to hold a good slice of the market because many of the people who are gamblers nowadays started wagering their money on those places and their sense of comfort zone is too big for them to venture into the unknown, deal with cryptocurrency, have wallets and deposit satoshis to a service they had never used before.

When comes to E-commerce, I kind of agree. Not all people are gamblers but all people have needs which can be satisfied through the ease E-commerce provides for the purchase and selling of goods and products. It is about having a bigger base of potential clients.

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April 29, 2024, 11:17:15 AM
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The online crypto casino business is highly competitive, which reduces the profit margins significantly.
Imagine having 10 crypto casinos instead of 1000 crypto casinos. The profit margins generated by 10 crypto casinos would be 100 times higher than the tiny profit margins generated by 1000 crypto casinos. That's how capitalism works. The capitalists are investing in the industries with higher profits, which eventually drives the profits down. I don't know which one is the most profitable online business, but the online casinos definitely aren't Number 1. Online gambling might be at the top 3 most profitable online businesses, because the online casinos have various tricks of legally taking away funds from their customers. Grin

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So many people think that this is the most profitable digital business, even though it is in line with the risks and competition in the casino world which is quite unhealthy.

Gambling is inherent in human beings, in fact, physical casinos can support a country's economy, now that we have online casinos that make it easy for people to gamble this is the reason all statistics point to online gambling as one of the most profitable ventures online.

Big players in online casinos spend millions on sponsorships and big events like the World Cup and main events in boxing and UFC and they pay a lot of money to market their platform and new casinos are coming in and launching, where the money is the business people will follow it.

Online casinos are here to stay because they have a huge market to serve and they serve man's basic desires to enjoy and make profit.

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April 29, 2024, 12:31:18 PM
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What you say is true but the amount taken is not the same. While exchanges only take few tenths of percent(usually less than 2) on each executed order, casinos take several percents on each bet through their house edge. In addition people tend to take more risks with their bankroll at casinos than when they trade. For example they don't hesitate to use martingale schemes until they are not able to bet more money. While when you trade you can hardly wipe your bankroll if you don't use leverages.

You are right about percentages, but I think that the volume is what matters most here. The calculation is difficult because we can't compare Binance with a small online casino and the same happens the other way because we can't compare small exchanges with gigantic casinos like 888. In the range between the smallest exchanges or casinos and the biggest ones there might be differences (medium online casinos may be more profitable than medium exchanges, but small exchanges may win in comparison to small casinos).

So I don't think there is an answer that fits for every case. The OP asks a question that oversimplifies reality.


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Bro what did you write? I am not getting your hypothesis. Are you saying that online casinos are more profitable than crypto exchanges in your hypothesis? Well, no one make a categorical statement there are too many dependent variables like environment, regulation, competition, the market. Exchanges go bankrupt. Casinsos also go bankrupt we have read about this happening over again. Both of these businesses are profitable and in my estimation, one is not more profitable than the other.

That's it.

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The gambling business is indeed quite profitable, but this is balanced with the risks involved. Because like any other business, there is a risk of experiencing losses. and if you invest quite a large amount of money in the gambling industry, for example to carry out marketing promotions, if in reality the marketing promotion carried out is not effective enough to attract visitors, then this can result in significant financial losses.

And not to mention several other consequences that you have to accept, one of which is that you will get a bad reputation and stigma from some people. This is because many people have a bad view of gambling, this could affect the reputation of your business, and you will lose a lot of support from several parties. And this is the reason why, as people who are involved in the gambling business, some of them always use pseudonyms.

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April 29, 2024, 03:48:34 PM
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Do they make more profit than digital banks, CEX exchanges, etc.?


I like to believe that top casinos do, compared to CEX exchanges where they get commissions on fees, the casinos are beating players and high rollers and they yield millions, see the comparison of the number of exchanges compared to the number of casinos.
Entrepreneurs know where they are going to put their money and it's where people are intentionally putting all their money at risk which is the casinos, the figures online can't lie, the online gambling industry is a multi-billion industry and it keeps growing by profit and by users.

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Gambling business is a very profitable business, I believe that's why many online casinos are showing up almost every week now, same as crypto exchange and it's way more harder to run a crypto exchange online than running a online casinos.

How many cases of hackers running after a online casino? But it is very common among online crypto exchanges, thats why exchange CEOs always spend more money on the security level of their exchanges.

To run a online casino you need few people but to run a crypto exchange you will need a lot of workers, it is very hard to monitor among few people for many reasons, I think crypto exchanges generate more money than online casinos, I could be wrong but I have been around for long to know this.

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April 29, 2024, 07:56:22 PM
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I also don't know if Gambling is the most profitable way today, but I'm sure that if I had invested the little money I had a few years ago on a betting site I would be rich today, but unfortunately I chose to bet through conventional means... . my mistake.

Happy and blessed are those who would start a betting site during the pandemic, a time when many people locked themselves in their homes and saw online entertainment as a good choice for entertainment. And the owners of these sites saw the golden opportunity to get rich.

Nowadays, there is still room for new websites, but we are already very saturated, and it is necessary to invest a lot of money in marketing to attract the public, offer a differentiator in the market and really make a profit... many websites are closing just a few months after opening , bankrupt.

So, I believe that this is not a time to make easy money if you don't have a lot of money to invest, a brilliant strategy and a lot of planning.
If I had the capital to invest in a online casino, a casino would be one of the last options I'd open, however, it's still a highly profitable business with good capital turnover, however, this market is huge and as others have mentioned here, if you don't have a good marketing strategy, minimize advertising costs and all other costs as much as possible, maximize profits by working with good game providers and offer attractive welcome, 1st or 2st deposit bonus to new customers without losing capital and still make more profit on top of it, this is certainly a challenging task, although financially tempting.

I think you can try to look up publicly available companies for statistics though most will be fiat only companies. Casino.guru does provide a range of income of casinos listed but it looks like a rough estimate to me...
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April 29, 2024, 08:16:33 PM
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Gambling business is a very profitable business, I believe that's why many online casinos are showing up almost every week now, same as crypto exchange and it's way more harder to run a crypto exchange online than running a online casinos.

How many cases of hackers running after a online casino? But it is very common among online crypto exchanges, thats why exchange CEOs always spend more money on the security level of their exchanges.

To run a online casino you need few people but to run a crypto exchange you will need a lot of workers, it is very hard to monitor among few people for many reasons, I think crypto exchanges generate more money than online casinos, I could be wrong but I have been around for long to know this.

I wouldn't put them in the same row at all.

Crypto exchanges, of course, require serious investments and technical knowledge to run and maintain. They are platforms for trading cryptocurrencies and require strict regulation and security. But on the other hand, cryptocurrencies, although they have their own characteristics and risks, still do not require such large-scale investments and technical skills. They can be launched faster and at a lower cost.

However, do not forget about the legal aspects. Crypto exchanges are often subject to strict government regulation, which requires compliance with legislation and regulations. While cryptocurrencies, depending on the jurisdiction, may be in a gray area or be completely banned. It happens.

Another important aspect is public opinion, it is different. Crypto exchanges are often associated with financial markets and investments, which can cause more trust among users. While cryptocurrencies can be associated with gambling and risky transactions, which may alienate some people. At the same time, attract old gamblers.

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April 29, 2024, 08:29:39 PM
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Online and crypto casinos can indeed be lucrative businesses, as they have the potential to reach a global audience and operate with relatively low overhead costs compared to traditional brick-and-mortar casinos. Additionally, the rise of cryptocurrencies has introduced new opportunities for both operators and players, offering faster transactions, increased privacy, and potentially lower fees. However, profitability can vary depending on various factors such as regulatory compliance, competition, market demand, and effective marketing strategies. While online and crypto casinos can be profitable, they also face risks such as regulatory changes, security concerns, and fluctuating market conditions.
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May 02, 2024, 09:32:42 PM
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Do they make more profit than digital banks, CEX exchanges, etc.?
I like to believe that top casinos do, compared to CEX exchanges where they get commissions on fees, the casinos are beating players and high rollers and they yield millions, see the comparison of the number of exchanges compared to the number of casinos.
Entrepreneurs know where they are going to put their money and it's where people are intentionally putting all their money at risk which is the casinos, the figures online can't lie, the online gambling industry is a multi-billion industry and it keeps growing by profit and by users.
I think casinos works the same? Because if there are losers, there will also be winners and maybe the only way for the casinos to earn a profit is through house edge. The percent of it can vary depending on the games. There are also lots of exchanges because cryptos popularity are still continuously growing but maybe it's only easy to create a casino and it can run immediately even without a license.

Even though a casino is known to be a profitable business and many entrepreneurs ventures it, many are also/still unlucky. There are still lots of services where people can avail and they are also being ventured by the entrepreneurs.

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May 02, 2024, 09:47:25 PM
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E-commerce is a good business and we can say that it is now the trend, and you can have a big chance here to make big profit especially if you are able to introduce a new online services that can attract more users and investors as well. This sounds good but yeah this will require a lot of work or even a big capital in order for you to successfully operate. Better to have a good team to discuss this matter and think for every possibilities and challenges along the way.

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