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May 06, 2024, 06:59:28 PM
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Trading is a kind of work that give us profit, i think the status of a trader is unemployed because there is no employer in trading it is a kind of work that you are the one who manage your time no one will bother you.i think there is no problem on it even if we are only traders and we are so called unemployed as long as we earn profit even if we don't have salary or regular work but still it is almost the same earnings.

All traders come with the same intentions and goals, namely to seek profit but I disagree if for example someone says that a trader is unemployed because clearly the name unemployed is those who do not have any activity to produce, even though there is no employer or boss or boss when you become a trader but still it cannot be said to be completely unemployed. However trading is a serious job but it may be engaged in the online field which is the reason why there are no employers or bosses because only we ourselves manage everything and it is because of this that many people make trading a side job or part-time job in addition to the main job they have and I will again say that in my opinion a trader is not right if he is called unemployed because his income is proven to be real and maybe I will say that those who claim or who say a trader is unemployed are those who may not know or do not understand that the times are getting more sophisticated which when you are smart then you will be able to take advantage of every opportunity that comes.
Business or not it wont really matter because we do have our own approach towards trading but in overall we are really just that aiming on the same thing on which to make money. Doesnt matter whether you are really that treating it as a job or investment. There are really just those individuals who are really that too mindful on how other people been treating up on things. Just like on what i have said earlier that doesnt matter on what are views towards it, we are still sharing up on the same views and mindset or simply our target. There are really just those people who are really that too sensitive whenever they do read up some words that they dont really like because they dont really accept it out. Trading could really be something a skill that will really be making you money but learning it wont really be something that
could be everyone will be able to get or would be able to learn up.

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May 07, 2024, 05:10:35 AM
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Those who think traders are unemployed are basically fools. Because traders are not unemployed. They are their own boss. And they own all their decisions.  They decide when to trade and when not to trade.  And traders decide their trading style by themselves. Those who are skilled traders earn a handsome amount by trading. Although this is not applicable to everyone. Because there are many traders who have been trading for a long time and have not achieved much success. There are also many traders who are trading  Has benefited a lot through.
I think if we start trading instead of sitting unemployed it can bring us a lot of good things. But I have seen that people who are busy with trading can get good idea about trading. But I have been away from trading for a long time before now again.  I have started trading again. If you trade you can earn good amount of money from here but for this you have to have a good idea about trading.

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May 07, 2024, 05:48:31 AM
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Trading is one option for those who are seeking a stable job. Whatever people are saying about this whether it is a job or not, what is important is that it gives us a chance. In fact, traders also exert effort and time doing this just like we are employed. It is not different from other forms of jobs but it is special in the way that it involves high risk and no earning assurance. Although we can possibly earn huge amounts but also, the potential of losing our money is big. That is why many never find it the best option, only risk-takers choose this.

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May 08, 2024, 02:40:54 PM
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Why look too deep into it? Unemployed doesn't necessarily mean you're not working on something. It's just the fact that you're not under a company's payroll.
True, it seems some misunderstanding here or some different opinion and understanding of the meaning of being employed and not.

Some also tell fulltime traders, but we can't say they are employed especially if they are trading alone using their own money and can trade anytime they want and not relying to other people or company.
Yes traders are not employed but self employed, it’s like running your own business. You’re working for yourself at your own pace and no boss breathing down your neck.
People get into trading part time while others do it full time for life, it just depends on how well you know how to trade.
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May 08, 2024, 08:42:45 PM
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Why look too deep into it? Unemployed doesn't necessarily mean you're not working on something. It's just the fact that you're not under a company's payroll.
True, it seems some misunderstanding here or some different opinion and understanding of the meaning of being employed and not.

Some also tell fulltime traders, but we can't say they are employed especially if they are trading alone using their own money and can trade anytime they want and not relying to other people or company.
Yes traders are not employed but self employed, it’s like running your own business. You’re working for yourself at your own pace and no boss breathing down your neck.
People get into trading part time while others do it full time for life, it just depends on how well you know how to trade.
No matter how you would really be treating it out it doesnt matter whether a business or a job or an investment because we do have our own impressions towards trading. Thing here is that you do really be able to 
have that opportunity to make money or income with it if you do really know on what you would really be gonna be doing. It is really just that this kind of thing is really that not that easy to get involved with or something that not everyone could be able to have a good grasps with it. Come to think that not all would really be that good on handling themselves about on how this market works or behaves.
It would really be needing that kind of adjustment for you to have that kind of sustaining on dealing with trading. Just dont make yourself that being too desperate when doing trading because being desperate
on making money will really be leading into that disaster on which you would be piling up tons of loses because you cant really be thinking off well just because of having that kind of intent into your mind.

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May 09, 2024, 03:18:26 AM
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Trading is one option for those who are seeking a stable job. Whatever people are saying about this whether it is a job or not, what is important is that it gives us a chance. In fact, traders also exert effort and time doing this just like we are employed. It is not different from other forms of jobs but it is special in the way that it involves high risk and no earning assurance. Although we can possibly earn huge amounts but also, the potential of losing our money is big. That is why many never find it the best option, only risk-takers choose this.
some people equates job to working time constraint, for example, many also don't take freelancer seriously although they actually do something, being productive and earn money, but many don't consider it real job because the time is flexible and the earning is uncertain.
this is how mindset affects how people judge each other, if the norm is working 9-5 then people will consider 9-5 works as a real job and disregard the other.

to be honest, in my opinion, activities that spends your effort in turn of getting profit I think is always a job, like trading, you analyze market almost 24/7 there's definitely so much effort going on, but some people ignore it, only when we are making profit then they see we are doing something with trading, even though the effort to be a profitable trader isn't a small effort.
it'd be great if authority considers whatever job people are doing outside of the traditional ones as a job somehow.

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May 09, 2024, 07:11:20 AM
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Trading is one option for those who are seeking a stable job. Whatever people are saying about this whether it is a job or not, what is important is that it gives us a chance. In fact, traders also exert effort and time doing this just like we are employed. It is not different from other forms of jobs but it is special in the way that it involves high risk and no earning assurance. Although we can possibly earn huge amounts but also, the potential of losing our money is big. That is why many never find it the best option, only risk-takers choose this.
well, in fact, people will see it as a job when we make a lot of money from it. However, if we don't make a lot of money from trading, people will still say we are unemployed. In fact, we don't need to think about what other people say when we focus on an area. They will eventually recognize someone when they succeed at their job. A businessman will also not be recognized as an entrepreneur if he does not make any money from it, or only makes a loss. Sometimes, they are recognized by entrepreneurs and business people when they have been successful in that field.


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May 09, 2024, 10:40:43 AM
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well, in fact, people will see it as a job when we make a lot of money from it. However, if we don't make a lot of money from trading, people will still say we are unemployed. In fact, we don't need to think about what other people say when we focus on an area. They will eventually recognize someone when they succeed at their job. A businessman will also not be recognized as an entrepreneur if he does not make any money from it, or only makes a loss. Sometimes, they are recognized by entrepreneurs and business people when they have been successful in that field.
Some people consider those who trade as unemployed because they have not been able to get big results from the trading they do, of course we don't need to care about this because in trading of course we will be able to get big profits after mastering trading well.
To be able to make big profits in trading, of course this is not something that is easy to obtain, it requires knowledge and skills in trading and those who have been able to make big profits from the trades they make of course have a good understanding of how to analyze the market and knowing the right time to make a trade so they can make a profit on the trades they make.

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May 09, 2024, 11:19:23 AM
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Those who think traders are unemployed are basically fools. Because traders are not unemployed. They are their own boss. And they own all their decisions.  They decide when to trade and when not to trade.  And traders decide their trading style by themselves. Those who are skilled traders earn a handsome amount by trading. Although this is not applicable to everyone. Because there are many traders who have been trading for a long time and have not achieved much success. There are also many traders who are trading  Has benefited a lot through.
I think if we start trading instead of sitting unemployed it can bring us a lot of good things. But I have seen that people who are busy with trading can get good idea about trading. But I have been away from trading for a long time before now again.  I have started trading again. If you trade you can earn good amount of money from here but for this you have to have a good idea about trading.

You are right; it is important that you have knowledge of trading. It's hard to just rely on guesswork because you don't understand anything about reading charts or using indicators on the trading exchange platform.

That's the problem with most people, who always rely on assumptions and guesses that have no certainty. Yes, all the analysis that are done are just predictions, but there is a basis for why that is their prediction, not just a prediction that has no basis.



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May 09, 2024, 12:31:57 PM
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Trading is a kind of work that give us profit, i think the status of a trader is unemployed because there is no employer in trading it is a kind of work that you are the one who manage your time no one will bother you.i think there is no problem on it even if we are only traders and we are so called unemployed as long as we earn profit even if we don't have salary or regular work but still it is almost the same earnings.

All traders come with the same intentions and goals, namely to seek profit but I disagree if for example someone says that a trader is unemployed because clearly the name unemployed is those who do not have any activity to produce, even though there is no employer or boss or boss when you become a trader but still it cannot be said to be completely unemployed. However trading is a serious job but it may be engaged in the online field which is the reason why there are no employers or bosses because only we ourselves manage everything and it is because of this that many people make trading a side job or part-time job in addition to the main job they have and I will again say that in my opinion a trader is not right if he is called unemployed because his income is proven to be real and maybe I will say that those who claim or who say a trader is unemployed are those who may not know or do not understand that the times are getting more sophisticated which when you are smart then you will be able to take advantage of every opportunity that comes.
Business or not it wont really matter because we do have our own approach towards trading but in overall we are really just that aiming on the same thing on which to make money. Doesnt matter whether you are really that treating it as a job or investment. There are really just those individuals who are really that too mindful on how other people been treating up on things. Just like on what i have said earlier that doesnt matter on what are views towards it, we are still sharing up on the same views and mindset or simply our target. There are really just those people who are really that too sensitive whenever they do read up some words that they dont really like because they dont really accept it out. Trading could really be something a skill that will really be making you money but learning it wont really be something that
could be everyone will be able to get or would be able to learn up.

Yes, trading is a job or an investment, it's just a different way of calling it for each person and that really doesn't matter, what matters is whether we can make money from it or not. Even if we argue and prove ourselves right but we lose money in trading and even lose all our assets in trading, so what is the use of arguing with others?

To me, unemployment is when you cannot make money, cannot make a profit in your job. No matter how hard you work, if you don't make a profit, it's still unemployment or, more seriously useless.

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May 09, 2024, 01:51:54 PM
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Those who think traders are unemployed are basically fools. Because traders are not unemployed. They are their own boss. And they own all their decisions.  They decide when to trade and when not to trade.  And traders decide their trading style by themselves. Those who are skilled traders earn a handsome amount by trading. Although this is not applicable to everyone. Because there are many traders who have been trading for a long time and have not achieved much success. There are also many traders who are trading  Has benefited a lot through.
I think if we start trading instead of sitting unemployed it can bring us a lot of good things. But I have seen that people who are busy with trading can get good idea about trading. But I have been away from trading for a long time before now again.  I have started trading again. If you trade you can earn good amount of money from here but for this you have to have a good idea about trading.
Its easier to said, I know we know how dangerous and risky trading is and if not done with care and catiousness it will cause a lot of money from us, yes trading maybe an alternative to stable jobs, it can be treated as full time job but imagine the stress and anxiety you may get, only strong willed and strong mind could handle it and at the same time can handle different situation, I'm pointing is that trading is not for everyone so if you are thinking of letting go of your stable job and focusing on trading then thing again, you should know that you might expect to lose some in the process and you might want to think again before deciding and changing your profession, or if you can you can keep both, you can trade daily only and if you have time while you are doing your stable job.

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May 09, 2024, 03:19:31 PM
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Trading is one option for those who are seeking a stable job. Whatever people are saying about this whether it is a job or not, what is important is that it gives us a chance. In fact, traders also exert effort and time doing this just like we are employed. It is not different from other forms of jobs but it is special in the way that it involves high risk and no earning assurance. Although we can possibly earn huge amounts but also, the potential of losing our money is big. That is why many never find it the best option, only risk-takers choose this.
if you are trading and at the same time have a stable job, it is not bad, At the same time, some people trade without doing any work and are doing well financially, is just for once that we choose a part we want to follow because we can not succeed if we don't decide, and trading requires a lot of effort, patience, and research, but it is very beneficial when you know what you are doing, As you trade, we should be more professional and also learn to share our minds with people who know more than us. That way, we can do better and keep improving. that is how people become better. the risk is quite alright but at the same time, the profit is also there.  and if not for our carelessness, there is no way you can lose all your money to trading except if you want to explore some parts, like futures, and even if you are exploring, you have to explore with sense.

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Trading is one option for those who are seeking a stable job. Whatever people are saying about this whether it is a job or not, what is important is that it gives us a chance. In fact, traders also exert effort and time doing this just like we are employed. It is not different from other forms of jobs but it is special in the way that it involves high risk and no earning assurance. Although we can possibly earn huge amounts but also, the potential of losing our money is big. That is why many never find it the best option, only risk-takers choose this.
There was a man in my village who had no institutional knowledge and was of the goofy type. He had a beautiful daughter and wanted to marry her off to a good working boy. One day marriage came for the girl who owns a well-known company. Even after that, the man refused to marry his daughter to the owner of the company because the man was not a job holder. Tried to explain that he doesn't work but he gives jobs to many people but to no avail.
Now coming to the main point, those who think traders are unemployed are like that girl's father. Anyone who believes that just by working under someone, they are no longer unemployed.

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May 13, 2024, 02:24:05 PM
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Trading is one option for those who are seeking a stable job. Whatever people are saying about this whether it is a job or not, what is important is that it gives us a chance. In fact, traders also exert effort and time doing this just like we are employed. It is not different from other forms of jobs but it is special in the way that it involves high risk and no earning assurance. Although we can possibly earn huge amounts but also, the potential of losing our money is big. That is why many never find it the best option, only risk-takers choose this.
As much as others find it a stable job, but for me trading should only be a profitable side job, hence you need to find a real stable job at least wherein you will receive a fixed amount of salary every month. That way, even if you lose from trading, you still have other job that will pay you consistently.

However, a lot of us here are still trying to focus on trading alone and leave their current jobs. That’s everyone’s choice and preference, but be sure to have a stable finances first before you resort into trading alone, as it can offer you huge earning but it can always mess up with your funds and leave you nothing in just a blink of an eye.

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May 13, 2024, 05:39:21 PM
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No one will call you unemployed when you have a lot of money. It doesn't matter whether you have a job or not, having money means you are not unemployed. If you can support yourself and your family by trading then you are employed, if someone asks you, you will proudly say that you do online job which is my source of income. But if trading is your only source of income then you need to focus on your capital. In that case you have to do day-trading. More capital means more profit. Example - If you make $2 from $10, you can make $100 to $20. So in this case you need to have enough capital.

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May 13, 2024, 05:55:44 PM
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As said before, we call a person employed when he works for someone and gets paid on a regular basis and that too a fixed amount. But in case of trading this is not as it works. So yes technically the traders are unemployed. They don’t have fix income and sometimes don’t even make the money. But this doesn’t mean traders are poor, they make tons of money in single day only. But yes with this type of income it’s hard to pay regular bills. Hence I would prefer trading as part time only.

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No one will call you unemployed when you have a lot of money. It doesn't matter whether you have a job or not, having money means you are not unemployed. If you can support yourself and your family by trading then you are employed, if someone asks you, you will proudly say that you do online job which is my source of income. But if trading is your only source of income then you need to focus on your capital. In that case you have to do day-trading. More capital means more profit. Example - If you make $2 from $10, you can make $100 to $20. So in this case you need to have enough capital.
In order to sustain yourself only from trading you will require a lot of capital, which is why many people trade as their second job or convince others to pool their funds and increase the capital they have at their disposal while charging a small fee for the service, so the number of traders that can actually trade the markets exclusively for a living is very limited, and from that number the amount of those that fail is very high, while many others despite the success they can get, decide to stop trading as they discover it is too taxing to trade for a living.
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No one will call you unemployed when you have a lot of money. It doesn't matter whether you have a job or not, having money means you are not unemployed. If you can support yourself and your family by trading then you are employed, if someone asks you, you will proudly say that you do online job which is my source of income. But if trading is your only source of income then you need to focus on your capital. In that case you have to do day-trading. More capital means more profit. Example - If you make $2 from $10, you can make $100 to $20. So in this case you need to have enough capital.
In order to sustain yourself only from trading you will require a lot of capital, which is why many people trade as their second job or convince others to pool their funds and increase the capital they have at their disposal while charging a small fee for the service, so the number of traders that can actually trade the markets exclusively for a living is very limited, and from that number the amount of those that fail is very high, while many others despite the success they can get, decide to stop trading as they discover it is too taxing to trade for a living.
Having tons of capital or big ones doesnt give out an assurance that you would be able to make yourself that support on day to day living or income with trading on which we know that it would really be still that varying or would really be that depending on how well you would really be making up your trades. WE do know that market is really that random and really that volatile on which you would be needing up that a skill that it is really that something that could really be able to sustain you for you to be able to make yourself that making trading as your main source of income. If you cant, then you shouldnt really be still making yourself having such decision on making it as a job. Doesnt matter on what we do call trading on, whether investment/job/hobby or whatsoever as long we are really that wary on the things that we are dealing off with then it would really be just that aiming on the same thing is on which to make some profits.
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As said before, we call a person employed when he works for someone and gets paid on a regular basis and that too a fixed amount. But in case of trading this is not as it works. So yes technically the traders are unemployed. They don’t have fix income and sometimes don’t even make the money. But this doesn’t mean traders are poor, they make tons of money in single day only. But yes with this type of income it’s hard to pay regular bills. Hence I would prefer trading as part time only.
Technically you are talking right but if you are having money even this is not fixed and coming regularly, but you are able to spend this with things are getting better for you, It's also good and then peoples will never talk about you as unemployed because you're all things are setting, and you are having enough money for buying your daily usages.
Trading has never been taking as employment with usually its talk as business or traders so it's also good to touch with this and also having chance of earning good amount regularly which is currently important as inflation is rising and peoples are losing their power or buy which is surely not good thing.

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May 14, 2024, 09:15:23 AM
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Business or not it wont really matter because we do have our own approach towards trading but in overall we are really just that aiming on the same thing on which to make money. Doesnt matter whether you are really that treating it as a job or investment. There are really just those individuals who are really that too mindful on how other people been treating up on things. Just like on what i have said earlier that doesnt matter on what are views towards it, we are still sharing up on the same views and mindset or simply our target. There are really just those people who are really that too sensitive whenever they do read up some words that they dont really like because they dont really accept it out. Trading could really be something a skill that will really be making you money but learning it wont really be something that
could be everyone will be able to get or would be able to learn up.
Yes, trading is a job or an investment, it's just a different way of calling it for each person and that really doesn't matter, what matters is whether we can make money from it or not. Even if we argue and prove ourselves right but we lose money in trading and even lose all our assets in trading, so what is the use of arguing with others?

To me, unemployment is when you cannot make money, cannot make a profit in your job. No matter how hard you work, if you don't make a profit, it's still unemployment or, more seriously useless.
Yeah, some people do not make money from it and still think that they have a job. A job is something you make money from and if you are insisting on what you can do or can't do or what you should be called or not called then you are going to miss the point.

Bitcoin income from trading could be considered a job and then you would be considered employed but making that money is more important than being called whatever, if you are making money from trading then being called unemployed wouldn't matter to you. However, if you are not making money and keep insisting that you have a job and you are going to eventually get better and this is what you want to do, then eventually the money will run out and you are going to end up with nothing at all which will hurt a lot.

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