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It differs per culture and country where you at, while in the US it's mostly a common thing for every citizen to have their own guns and bring it wherever they go. I'd disagree with that, I don't want to bring this kind of thing and I'm not a trigger happy person but I just want to live and don't have any desire to carry gun on me at all times...
Actually, it is more complex than that. In the United States it has been proved that there is a very high number of guns in hands of civilians, but there is also a very high percentage of people who do not own guns, in the end, it is about people owning a lot of guns and others who do not own any. Now, considering we are going through rough times and suddenly there was a change of laws in your country which could allow almost anyone in your country to conceal carry handguns. What would you prefer? To be armed knowing there must be people around you keeping guns hidden or dont have anything to defend yourself? That is one of the theories on the proponents of the rights of the people to defend themselves against any threat. It is about you being careful with the people around you because they are likely armed, but as well about criminals having a second thought on mugging you, because theh do not know whether you are carrying or not. Theories like that have led people to believe gun violence problems can be solved by providing more guns into the equation, thrus why some lawmakers in the USA want teachers to carry guns concealed in case of a school shooting. I think even with that change of laws about allowing every citizen to protect themselves to carry a gun. I'd still choose not to, it also varies in which neighborhood you live and I know that even you know people in your surroundings, you just don't know when these criminal minds will attack even their neighbors. But I've got this belief that if I live by the gun then I'd die with a gun and IIRC, this is also in the scriptures but that's how I think right now. Maybe, I'm getting older and I just truly want a peaceful life and I let people do their own thing so I won't get bothered and I won't bother others too. If the state allows to carry everyone guns, there's should be more restriction on who are allowed to carry. Because as much as we can see, this isn't the type of life that we want to live with and neighborhoods that have got these kind of people, you'll also be influenced with them and instead of living peacefully, you'd live in fear because you're aware that everyone is carrying their own arm. Anyway, I might be too confused or my reasoning is too complex but that's what I think suits for me and I don't want to get into it.
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Everybody should own a gun in a society. I think this is not a good idea because, we human beings, we're individuals with differences temper, we don't have the same temper, our tempers are high them each other. So everyone should own a gun in society, it may cause a big problem in the future because one day they may get into a misunderstanding with each other and definitely shoot a person. Even when you see a strong society, the only people's that you can see own a firearm are those who are leaders of the society. Even those leaders most likely have licenses that they can prove the gun, but there are some various communities that having a gun is very important because of insecurities.
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The fear of rising crime in our society is no joke and can't be ignored.This is why All people should have the rights to own Guns. One can protect oneself,one's family and not bend down to anybody. Possession of firearms often reduces home robberies and assaultive crimes like rape both by family members and strangers. They are excellent tools for protection and self- defense. Agree or Disagree https://secondamendmentcenter.org/people-should-have-the-right-to-own-guns/Possession of firearm does more bad thing than good, for example it is the reason why most people get murdered in here so instead of making it legal for everyone why not make it illegal for every citizen and let the job of securing the community into the hands of police. Obviously the illegal/black market guns will be in circulation but the long term effect will be positive.
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The fear of rising crime in our society is no joke and can't be ignored.This is why All people should have the rights to own Guns. One can protect oneself,one's family and not bend down to anybody. Possession of firearms often reduces home robberies and assaultive crimes like rape both by family members and strangers. They are excellent tools for protection and self- defense. Agree or Disagree https://secondamendmentcenter.org/people-should-have-the-right-to-own-guns/Possession of firearm does more bad thing than good, for example it is the reason why most people get murdered in here so instead of making it legal for everyone why not make it illegal for every citizen and let the job of securing the community into the hands of police. Obviously the illegal/black market guns will be in circulation but the long term effect will be positive. Good people don't use guns for bad things. Bad people use guns for bad things. Making guns illegal is words on paper. Words on paper only stop good people from having guns; words don't stop the bad people. Illegal guns kill cops. There are places in the US where cops won't go because guns will kill them. Big 230 lb. Bully can easily rape, mug and murder a 95 lb. teenage girl. But if Girly has a gun, she has a chance... even if Bully has a gun, too.It should be a requirement that all people wear at least a .38 when they go into the public. Then bad people would all get scared, and wouldn't use their guns for fear of getting shot. The good people with guns wouldn't harm anyone; a gun is simply another tool. To be fair, all gun toters should be required to take a course on responsible gun toting. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Possession of firearm does more bad thing than good, for example it is the reason why most people get murdered in here so instead of making it legal for everyone why not make it illegal for every citizen and let the job of securing the community into the hands of police. Obviously the illegal/black market guns will be in circulation but the long term effect will be positive.
So are you saying that in countries with no guns there's less murders? Let's talk about the numbers then. Nigeria has one of the highest intentional homicide numbers in the world with 22 per 100k inhabitants a year. It also has one of the lowest gun ownership rates with only 3 per 100 people. On the opposite side we have countries like Finland with 32 guns per 100 people but only 1.6 homicides per 100k inhabitants. Some notable countries with very high gun ownership but very low homicide rates: Canada Serbia Austria Norway Switzerland
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Possession of firearms often reduces home robberies and assaultive crimes like rape both by family members and strangers.
You present your point of view from a very limited point of view that does not include the entire scene. It is true that weapons are useful in confronting any attempted assault with high crime rates, but you forgot that prevention is achieved by reducing the rates of high crime and not only through individual methods of confronting it. Let's take the United States, for example, where individual possession of firearms is legally permitted (the stringency of laws varies from one state to another). In the United States, areas with a high rate of gun ownership are the same areas where armed robberies and theft are high. The toll of gun violence in the United States is estimated at approximately $100 billion annually, in addition to the costs related to awareness to avoid and prevent gun violence. https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(15)00072-0/abstractThe law allowing the possession of firearms may be useful in combating crime individually, but we should not forget that the criminals themselves can benefit from the same laws and it becomes easy for them to possess weapons for the purpose of committing their crimes, and this is what studies have proven.
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Every owning a personal gun is not a way of reducing crime in the society, instead it will increase crime more because everyone would want to take laws into their hand. If everyone gets access of having gun, when someone offends you instead of taking the matter legally what comes into your mind next is to take laws into your hands . This is not a good idea at all, even now that most people don't have fun to themselves the level at which crim is being committed is very high, then imagine when their are guns everywhere, this will even cause people to be living in fear because you may not know what will even be the next action.
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I get that some folks believe having guns around makes places safer. And yeah, for certain folks and situations, that's reasonable - if you live way out in the boondocks or want protection. but insisting we'd all be better off if everyone packed heat wherever they went? I call shenanigans.
Guns ain't toys. People lose their cool, even good folks. Add firearms to those flare-ups and things go sideways real fast. Just look at the stats - more guns typically means more problems not less. More accidents. More suicides. More shootouts over fender benders and family spats. I mean, cmon.
Plus, places with strict limits on carrying guns around tend to be safer overall. So this more guns equal more safe theory doesn't really hold water in my book. I respect responsible gun owners, but thinking we'd live in some polite utopia if every last citizen strapped on a six-shooter before leaving the house every morning? That's some serious wishful thinking.
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May 03, 2024, 11:17:03 PM |
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The rate at which crime is increasing this days is really high and the use of fire arms to intimidate people and take away their money and their jewelries and other valuables, fire arms have been used by a lot of people to commit some social vices but we shouldn't take fire arms to be legalized because the level of havoc it will create will be enormous because they will be handled in a wrong way and use it to take advantage of others. With the level of atrocious nature of humans it will be difficult to make the use of gun open to everybody.
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While I understand where this is coming from, it is disturbing to think of it. It is scary for everyone to have access to gun because it will be more than just defending yourself of crime. Some people with anger issues will pull the trigger in one second. Some people will shoot themselves over arguments. I have watched various videos on how people in the US shoot others like it’s nothing. That is just too cold. Instead, the government should provide better security and look for ways to reduce the crime. Because it’s just a war when there’s criminals with guns and there’s you with a gun as well.
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It could be you indeed you want to be alone and leave other alone with their own business, but unfortunately there are societies which such peaceful living is not such an easy option to pick for people and their neighbors. I have got a friend who is a very good example of it, he is from the United States and he is a black person who does not own any weapons, after Trump managed to win the presidency of the country the people of the extreme right started to get more comfortable with showing off their racism against people like my friend. He friend wanted to be left alone and he would not bother anyone, but he felt so scared he started to seriously consider to get a handgun for his own protection. All you have to do is out yourself in the place of someone like my friend, someone living around people who is constantly threating his self, because of the color of his skin. In that context, there will be people who do not like guns, but do not want the other side to be the only ones armed either. By the way, I think the Bible means those who live by the sword, will die by it. I mostly apply to those who profit of death, like hitmen and cartel members. Does not have anything to do with lawabidding citizens having their guns safely locked or safely being carried.
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Possession of firearm does more bad thing than good, for example it is the reason why most people get murdered in here so instead of making it legal for everyone why not make it illegal for every citizen and let the job of securing the community into the hands of police. Obviously the illegal/black market guns will be in circulation but the long term effect will be positive.
So are you saying that in countries with no guns there's less murders? Let's talk about the numbers then. Nigeria has one of the highest intentional homicide numbers in the world with 22 per 100k inhabitants a year. It also has one of the lowest gun ownership rates with only 3 per 100 people. On the opposite side we have countries like Finland with 32 guns per 100 people but only 1.6 homicides per 100k inhabitants. So if anyone has a gun they are less likely to get killed? What if both parties have the gun at the same time and one who got the skills and reflexes better chance of surviving here which is obviously going to be someone who is doing this as a profession not just an average citizen. This makes sense only if government agree that they are incompetent of providing security to their citizen so there by not collecting any taxes from their citizen.
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It could be you indeed you want to be alone and leave other alone with their own business, but unfortunately there are societies which such peaceful living is not such an easy option to pick for people and their neighbors. I have got a friend who is a very good example of it, he is from the United States and he is a black person who does not own any weapons, after Trump managed to win the presidency of the country the people of the extreme right started to get more comfortable with showing off their racism against people like my friend. He friend wanted to be left alone and he would not bother anyone, but he felt so scared he started to seriously consider to get a handgun for his own protection. All you have to do is out yourself in the place of someone like my friend, someone living around people who is constantly threating his self, because of the color of his skin. In that context, there will be people who do not like guns, but do not want the other side to be the only ones armed either. Yeah, that seems to be a situation that your friend won't have any other choice because of the area. But fortunately, I know areas that are peaceful but livelihood there is limited and that's why I am saving up for my retirement to live there someday and when everything is up and good for me, I can have my passive income that will come to me while living the best life that I can. What matters to me is I'd live peacefully and I really have no plan of carrying one and I just treat it as a costly thing as well whether with registrations and stuff and as well as maintaining it. By the way, I think the Bible means those who live by the sword, will die by it. I mostly apply to those who profit of death, like hitmen and cartel members. Does not have anything to do with lawabidding citizens having their guns safely locked or safely being carried.
My logic there is, you're a law abiding citizen but you anticipate that something might happen to you. Just as the hitmen that carry weapons, you also carry one so you might attract the same judgement. That's for me and what I believe so, quite confusing but this world is crazy. But I know that we have to protect ourselves with any potential danger but I wouldn't chose to go with hand on hand combat through guns. I'm a coward, I'll just avoid and run any potential danger while and until I can.
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May 04, 2024, 03:58:43 PM |
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~ By the way, I think the Bible means those who live by the sword, will die by it. I mostly apply to those who profit of death, like hitmen and cartel members. Does not have anything to do with lawabidding citizens having their guns safely locked or safely being carried.
My logic there is, you're a law abiding citizen but you anticipate that something might happen to you. Just as the hitmen that carry weapons, you also carry one so you might attract the same judgement. That's for me and what I believe so, quite confusing but this world is crazy. But I know that we have to protect ourselves with any potential danger but I wouldn't chose to go with hand on hand combat through guns. I'm a coward, I'll just avoid and run any potential danger while and until I can. Shot in the back while running. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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They cant allow everyone to hold gun in the society except through license, that will enable then to verify and know if the individual has the enough reason why he should hold a gun, if he should be allowed to hold one after seen to be mentally fit and stable, also, there are requirements that will be made and must be fulfilled for someone to be able to be granted the license to hold a gun, if every conditions are made, then they may allow for the grant of the law.
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May 04, 2024, 04:32:48 PM |
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Popularize the use of guns for self-defense and do not make them easily available. If you want to use them, you also need to go through some training programs or censorship from competent authorities.
I agree that the appearance of many criminals makes us need to take more precautions, but the responsibility is great on those who carry out justice such as the police, so no matter what society we are in, we should put our trust in them. Trust in law enforcement. But there are some situations where we may have to improve many other skills to defend ourselves. To me, truly lethal weapons should only be considered for self-defense. However, poor security is not everywhere, so if you live in a high-crime area, do what you feel is safe but still legal.
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They cant allow everyone to hold gun in the society except through license, that will enable then to verify and know if the individual has the enough reason why he should hold a gun, if he should be allowed to hold one after seen to be mentally fit and stable, also, there are requirements that will be made and must be fulfilled for someone to be able to be granted the license to hold a gun, if every conditions are made, then they may allow for the grant of the law.
But who are ' they'? In a free society, if 'they' force people to not have guns, then is it a free society? Further, how are they going to stop people from having guns. They might get shot if they try. In a society where everybody has a gun, the mentally unstable and the bad guys will be dead. Society will kill them. The relatives of a mentally unstable person will have to take control of their mentally unstable relative - if they love him - to keep him from using a gun in a way that will get him shot. Training should start with the parents training their children at a young age. Popularize the use of guns for self-defense and do not make them easily available. If you want to use them, you also need to go through some training programs or censorship from competent authorities.
I agree that the appearance of many criminals makes us need to take more precautions, but the responsibility is great on those who carry out justice such as the police, so no matter what society we are in, we should put our trust in them. Trust in law enforcement. But there are some situations where we may have to improve many other skills to defend ourselves. To me, truly lethal weapons should only be considered for self-defense. However, poor security is not everywhere, so if you live in a high-crime area, do what you feel is safe but still legal.
What keeps a person safe is what is legal. My sister came home from work one evening (in Phoenix, AZ) and found her house broken into. Luckily she wasn't home. She called the cops, but it took them 8 hours to get there. Trust God, and back up your trust with your gun. EDIT: Slamgun - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=slam+gun AND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG6Y5TIDJMg
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May 04, 2024, 06:58:28 PM |
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Everyone is allowed to own a gun but you must ha e a license from the government to make it legal, and that is where the problems lies. If everyone should own a gun, it will become a street war and crime rate will be very high. However, if as guns are not legalized, guns cannot be taken out from the streets because corrupt leaders will always put them in the streets.
If you have a license gun then it becomes for self defense, and not for illegal activities. There are some people that the moment they lay their hands on guns, they get possessed by the gun, and do all sort of evil with it.
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May 04, 2024, 07:43:31 PM |
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So if anyone has a gun they are less likely to get killed?
Don't put words in my mouth. You said that it's the reason why people get killed, so I countered that by showing you that murders have literally nothing to do with the possession of firearms. There are countries with almost no guns but high rate of homicides and countries with very high gun ownership and low homicides. I don't think that you can assume that owning a gun will not get you killed, but not owning it will also not increase your chances of staying alive. What if both parties have the gun at the same time and one who got the skills and reflexes better chance of surviving here which is obviously going to be someone who is doing this as a profession not just an average citizen. This makes sense only if government agree that they are incompetent of providing security to their citizen so there by not collecting any taxes from their citizen.
Would you rather face a skilled marksman unarmed, or armed? There are always be people better than you, be it with hand to hand combat, knives, or firearms, but I'd rather face an opponent (skilled or unskilled) with a firearm than without it. Chances are you both hit each other and that will save your family, or friends at the cost of your life, rather than you all dying there because you were all unarmed.
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The fear of rising crime in our society is no joke and can't be ignored.This is why All people should have the rights to own Guns. One can protect oneself,one's family and not bend down to anybody. Possession of firearms often reduces home robberies and assaultive crimes like rape both by family members and strangers. They are excellent tools for protection and self- defense. Agree or Disagree https://secondamendmentcenter.org/people-should-have-the-right-to-own-guns/This matter is very much debatable. You can just take your side and you can still be right. But it is better applied country by country based. But for US it has been working for them but it seems that the misuse is becoming high or the media has started to report the exact things that happen. How do mentality ill people actually get access to gun. There should be a well monitored system in the gun shop to ascertain that gun doesn't get to the hands of children, the sick and the drunk. In a society where people are not allowed to carry arms, the bad eggs still carry it there by making them selves more powerful than those who decided to be law abiding.
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