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March 21, 2025, 01:45:12 PM
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Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law
But unfortunately this is not the case in some African countries as the opposite is the case as in every election year that comes you hear of election violence, rigging of election to favour those in power, oppression and arrest of opposition figure infact the one that makes in thinking is influx of foreign and European observer to African elections
This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation
Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government
Democracy only works mildly better than other forms of government. What actually improves things is the underlying principles of fairness. If a country simply adopts Democracy without first understanding and adopting the underlying philosophies, very little can be expected to change. The first thing people will often try to do with a democracy is vote to give them self other people's money. Well, that is actually immoral because taking other people's property without their permission is theft, which leads to widespread and dramatic problems like extreme levels of immigration that disrupt cultural and economic systems.

Some people agree with the system who devote them self to the religion of the hive mind which is typically called socialism. In the hive mind religion, you are merely part of a larger hive mind. The hive mind is your legal guardian with higher rights and authority than you and decides what is best for you. That resolves many of the problems with socialism as the people who agree can happily ignore the fact that their money is being taken without permission, living as extensions of the hive mind instead of being their own person. That still becomes a problem when the hive mind does things like take their children away from decent if not perfect parents and put them with child sexual molesters, which does happen in the west. Since this system is hostile to people who are not in agreement, it is a also a cult. The core part of a cult as opposed to a religion is the hostility to people outside of the faith-based belief system.

African's any anyone else would greatly benefit to switching to a COOPERATIVE Republic form of Democracy. This is a type of government in which anyone you chose to represent you is your representative. It is a dramatically more natural, moral, and therefore effective system that forms like schools of fish form in the ocean. I've been starting to advocate this system, but its frustrating as despite being so clearly better than other forms of Republic I don't remember the last time if ever someone said, "Oh, that's a good idea. Let's do this.". People actually have surprisingly little reaction to the concept as if they don't care about an entirely new concept that would finally bring civility to society. The core problem is something I'm aware of. Though beneficial to everyone it is most beneficial to libertarians, but they refuse to acknowledge the strength in numbers offered by other systems as they want to act as a herd of cats at the moment.

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March 21, 2025, 04:28:04 PM
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Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though).
I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.

Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying.

While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers.  The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world.
There are too many corrupt leaders in Africa that's why the continent is not moving forward with the kind of progress we intend to see it.
Greed has been one of the reasons why the African politicians are working hard to fill their pockets rather then trying to help their various regions to become a better place for tourism and for the people.

 This would not get better if the leaders are still after symphoning the massive resources that are in Africa without development. I know that their are some countries in Africa that has lot to natural resources but because of the greed to enrich individual pockets without having a better plan for the people, the continent is shifting to massive poverty and many of these leaders are not doing anything to better the African economy.
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March 21, 2025, 05:25:51 PM
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Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though).
I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.

Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying.

While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers.  The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world.
There are too many corrupt leaders in Africa that's why the continent is not moving forward with the kind of progress we intend to see it.
Greed has been one of the reasons why the African politicians are working hard to fill their pockets rather then trying to help their various regions to become a better place for tourism and for the people.

 This would not get better if the leaders are still after symphoning the massive resources that are in Africa without development. I know that their are some countries in Africa that has lot to natural resources but because of the greed to enrich individual pockets without having a better plan for the people, the continent is shifting to massive poverty and many of these leaders are not doing anything to better the African economy.
I don't think it will even get better because things are even getting worse the more. Africa will get better when Africans are ready to make Africa better because right now it seems they do not have the mentality to do the right things. If before now Africa was still backwards I would have said that was a time civilisation has not gotten to the continent but right now we have civilize and educated people I'm Africa.  Africans are doing well  around the world but I still wonder why  the leaders in this part of the world finds it so interesting to be corrupt,  and corruption is still waxing strong in the region

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March 21, 2025, 09:52:58 PM
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Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though).

I think it's because of power hungry war lord and maniac militants, it's really hard to go back to democracy.

Yea, you are right, it's very very hard to go back to democracy again, as it has been already abused because most of our leaders seen military rule as the most effective in a way to rule us, and they are no longer interested to know the well being of their people, they do things for their own pleasure and we don't have any other choice than to just adhere to their order meanwhile democracy is not done that way.
Democracy in African countries is merely in papers than what we are experiencing in practice by the rulers and the ruled. It is said that the worst democracy is still better than the best military rule but looking onto Africa I disagree with such postulation. Because it's one born out of Western lens on democracy as they have it and not within the African milieu and perspective of both ends. Comparatively the leadership style of democracy in Africa is abuse to democratic principles which more often than not, many African would rather wish for a military intervention in extreme situations in order to bring back sanity into the polity.

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March 21, 2025, 11:57:11 PM
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Democracy should be given a chance in order for it to work but in Africa mostly it's millitary rule and numerous coups to get on power and at the same time I think we will see coups even for democratically elected candidates and we have seen this in Egypt (North Africa and middle East nation though).
I am an African, and I have noticed that most of these military coups that have taken place in different countries of Africa is as a result of two phenomenon. That of corruption and political tension.

Many times the military has intervened is due to the height of corruption and looting of the commonwealth by the so-called democratic elected officials who obviously got into power through elections rigging and vote buying.

While that of political tension is caused by the said corrupt practices which has led to opposition attacks from the different political parties and their followers.  The military has always come in to bring back sanity and discipline within the system. And I can tell you about his for free, that democracy has done little or nothing to countries like Nigeria due to the political leaders it has produced over the years. The best time's in the memories of the country people had always been those of military times. I don't think democracy favours Africa as it does with the Western world.
There are too many corrupt leaders in Africa that's why the continent is not moving forward with the kind of progress we intend to see it.
Greed has been one of the reasons why the African politicians are working hard to fill their pockets rather then trying to help their various regions to become a better place for tourism and for the people.
Very much of intelligently corrupt leaders than we have of those that for the most part puts the country's future before theirs. And this is what they do in maintaining their legacy in almost every section of the country they replicate themselves with their children who come into these positions and behave exactly like their fathers in their time. For instance, you see a retired politician who spent most part of his years in politics looting the country resources and same person the son is either a commissioner, a minister or a member in the legislative chamber, and it goes on and on never giving well meaning citizens a breathing space to govern at any level. This explains the level of greed of these politicians.

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March 24, 2025, 08:37:51 PM
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I won't actually say that democracy is a myth in Africa or let me focus in my country, democracy is a myth in my country because the quest for power and more riches has blinded our leaders, I see some users saying that democracy can happen if the citizens stop selling their vote but how can they stop selling when their is hunger in the land. A hungry man thinks only about how to survive now and forget about the future hence the reason why they sell their votes for peanuts just the survive that moment's hungry, Democracy won't be possible with these corrupt leaders that are only bothered about their welfare alone.

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March 25, 2025, 12:06:38 PM
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Eh look at how democracy worked in South Africa. White kids have to get more points in college to get the same degree as black ones and white farmers have to sleep with one eye open while they feed them all under the threat of having the very land used to feed them all being stolen from them all the while the opposition sing openly with their zoo animal mobs to kill the boer instead of fixing the power grid and infrastructure. Democracy only works when the crazys arent elected  Grin
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March 25, 2025, 09:41:12 PM
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I won't actually say that democracy is a myth in Africa or let me focus in my country, democracy is a myth in my country because the quest for power and more riches has blinded our leaders, I see some users saying that democracy can happen if the citizens stop selling their vote but how can they stop selling when their is hunger in the land. A hungry man thinks only about how to survive now and forget about the future hence the reason why they sell their votes for peanuts just the survive that moment's hungry, Democracy won't be possible with these corrupt leaders that are only bothered about their welfare alone.
How long will the money they sold their vote for last? Sometimes, the money wouldn't even provide meals for a day. Hunger is not an excuse for vote selling. Selling your vote to the wrong politicians will cause more hunger.

Another problem that affects African democracy is the lack of an independent electoral process. Since the electoral body officials are usually appointed by those in power, they can easily be influenced. Some of them will always write and announce fake results just to ensure that the ruling class win the election.

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March 27, 2025, 11:02:01 AM
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Democracy is a form of government characterized by by majority role in which the power to choose their leaders is solely put in the hands of the masses . Democracy is characterized by some unique qualities like free and fair election with with duration of been in power and respect for rule of law
But unfortunately this is not the case in some African countries as the opposite is the case as in every election year that comes you hear of election violence, rigging of election to favour those in power, oppression and arrest of opposition figure infact the one that makes in thinking is influx of foreign and European observer to African elections
This lead me to ask questions is democracy made for Africa or can we go back to the way we where governing our self before the advent of colonisation
Guys let discuss why is African democracy so fragile and unstable that military is always taking over democratically elected government


How do you think democracy will work when personal interest, tribalism, favoritism etc is too much, if the people that are on seat are still there democracy can never be practice in Africa. Remember an evil tree will always bear forth evil fruit so when the people that is leading are evil definitely before they will leave the seat they want people like them to be there and if anyone tries to antagonize they will make sure to deal with person and eliminate the person if possible and necessary. The continent is just like a lawless continent.

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