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May 10, 2024, 08:39:35 PM
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Welcome to the forum, your name really indicates that this is a telegram casino. You are probably the first crypto casino on Bitcointalk that's licensed by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros. Usually, every casino is licensed by Curacao or Costa Rica. I'm curious about why you decided to use this license.
Btw I wonder why are so many casinos today creating a telegram casino instead of traditional, www casinos? Is this because of marketing or is there any loophole or what is the reason? Telegram casinos are basically not different from web casinos, we just get access to www.something.io via Telegram app.

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May 10, 2024, 09:20:26 PM
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Welcome to the forum, your name really indicates that this is a telegram casino. You are probably the first crypto casino on Bitcointalk that's licensed by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros. Usually, every casino is licensed by Curacao or Costa Rica. I'm curious about why you decided to use this license.
Btw I wonder why are so many casinos today creating a telegram casino instead of traditional, www casinos? Is this because of marketing or is there any loophole or what is the reason? Telegram casinos are basically not different from web casinos, we just get access to www.something.io via Telegram app.
It true that the casino environment is kinda diversion to the telegram based casino's. As we already know one of the renowned telegram based casino the bons.
And for the cause this I think maybe it being more users friendly? Like easy to access don't need to go or open browsers. I have used some telegram based casino and what I got from them it's more faster and smoother using the chrome or any browser.

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May 10, 2024, 09:29:27 PM
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Could these be unrealistic promises? Rewards in real money with no wagering requirements sound too good to be true. Casinos typically have wagering requirements to prevent bonus abuse.

And how we can verify that this online casino is licensed on the Telegram platform?

Yeah, that is something which actually came to my mind as well. Sounds very weird and kind of unrealistic a casino which is based and run in a platform like Telegram somehow managed to get licensed by some reputable license issuers, specifically those in the same league which provide of license to big and reliable casinos.
Perhaps OP is trying to mean his casino running on Telegram is some kind of extension or addon to some web domain/desktop casino he wants to use for the sake of getting the license, otherwise, I find it very difficult to license issuers to set such precedent and giving green light to a casino of this characteristics.

Also, realistically, they are going to implement wagering restrictions on those bonuses, for the sake of their profitably, if they do not then the abuse by gamblers will be inevitable.

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May 10, 2024, 09:51:48 PM
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Could these be unrealistic promises? Rewards in real money with no wagering requirements sound too good to be true. Casinos typically have wagering requirements to prevent bonus abuse.

And how we can verify that this online casino is licensed on the Telegram platform?

Good question because winning from free spins can be a big amount if the player has a great luck while playing it.
No wagering requirement is fine but if there is no other requirement/term behind the winning from the free spins, then yes it can be easily abused.
If I have to guess, there must be something like max amount to withdraw from the winning of free spins.
There can also be other requirement such as the deposit need to be wagered first in order to be allowed to withdraw.
OP needs to explain all the terms of this bonus to avoid confusion as well as to avoid possible complaints later.

You can find full details in the app when you press "PROMO" and choose "Read More". Here's couple points from the VIP spins welcome offer terms and conditions:

11. There is no maximum win limit for Free Spins; enjoy your winnings without restrictions.
12. Winnings from Free Spins have no wagering requirements and are credited as real money.


When it comes to deposit being wagered. As for now it's 1x the deposit amount.

Could these be unrealistic promises? Rewards in real money with no wagering requirements sound too good to be true. Casinos typically have wagering requirements to prevent bonus abuse.

And how we can verify that this online casino is licensed on the Telegram platform?

Other casino like Duelbits, Bitcasino and Winz.io offer a non wager requirements to all the rewards given from their event such as free spin. I believe they only offer a low bet amount out of the free spin probably the bare minimum of spin amount which is 0.1$ per spin.

It’s too good to be true if the rewards is on cash already and not from the free spin especially that the game is on Gates of Olympus which is a volatile game from Pragmatic. Most probably you will get a penny out of that free spin.

We're offering VIP spins: 5x the value of regular free spins Wink

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Define Anonymously, because i don't see that feature in your TOS.

https://www.playgram.io/c-3-lightbox.html
3.4. You may not use a VPN, proxy or similar services or devices that mask or manipulate the identification of your real location.

And if we go to the footer on your site and click on the AML, we will see the next:

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Customer identification and verification (KYC)

The formal identification of customers on entry into commercial relations is a vital element, both for the regulations relating to money laundering and for the KYC policy.

This identification relies on the following fundamental principles:

A copy of your passport, ID card or driving license, each shown alongside a handwritten note mentioning six random generated numbers. Also, a second picture with the face of the user/customer is required. The user/customer may blur out every information, besides date of birth, nationality, gender, first name, second name and the picture. To secure their privacy.

So, your casino doesn't after Anonymous gambling that's a fake claim.

But the fact that you bring the slots providers to telegram is awesome, +1 for your developers, they did an awesome job on this move, but what i don't get is why only limit the casino to telegram, if you already have a license the you could offer it on both platforms, Telegram and Web site.

By default, Telegram as a platform is rather anonymous, private and secure and that also means we're not collecting much information about our customers. I could probably even say that we collect less than most other crypto casinos simply due to the platform we use Smiley

When it comes to KYC procedures. It can be triggered for example based on which deposit method is being used: Choose between Crypto or Buy Crypto. The latter option uses a third-party on-ramp service, and we have no control over whether they enforce KYC, similar to many crypto exchanges.

Then where KYC procedures are mostly used is, as unfortunate as it is: To prevent fraudulent activity. Whether it's multi-accounting, bonus abuse, money laundering or taking over someones account etc.

At the end we could've gone without a license, but I believe choosing a license brings trust to every party involved Smiley

About the website: Nothing can match the feeling you get when you finally get something after waiting for it for a long time Wink

Rewards in real money. No wagering requirements to lock your funds

I need clarification on this, but I assume this is only for a deposit that has no bonus. it would be nice if you could explain it more in detail so people won't misinterpret what it means.

We've decided not to offer deposit bonuses in the usual way. For example: Get 100% up to 0.005 Bitcoin with 40x wager requirement. What we mean by wager free/real cash rewards is that when you get free spins and win, the winnings come without wager requirement. Another example could be that you receive your weekly cashback based on your gameplay. You can either decide to play with that or withdraw it. It's yours to keep in any case.
I see, I want to give an example just to be sure I understand it. so on the original post, there is a "$50 deposit: Get 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus", Does this mean that we get a $50 dollar credit on our account and 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus and everything that is won on those 25 VIP spins doesn't have a wagering requirement and can be withdrawn immediately?

It means when you deposit $50 or more, you get credited 25 VIP spins to Gates of Olympus. Whatever you win with VIP free spins are yours to keep, not locked by wager requirement. As a general rule any deposit amount should be wagered 1x before making a withdrawal request. In this case total bets should equal to $50 or more.

Please note: This is not a traditional deposit match up bonus. Just a free spins offer with VIP flair. Smiley

Welcome to the forum, your name really indicates that this is a telegram casino. You are probably the first crypto casino on Bitcointalk that's licensed by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros. Usually, every casino is licensed by Curacao or Costa Rica. I'm curious about why you decided to use this license.
Btw I wonder why are so many casinos today creating a telegram casino instead of traditional, www casinos? Is this because of marketing or is there any loophole or what is the reason? Telegram casinos are basically not different from web casinos, we just get access to www.something.io via Telegram app.

Thank you! The text was left there by accident: We're licensed in Curaçao Smiley About Telegram casinos popping up, I'd guess it's a great opportunity to create the most seamless casino experience. No app installations, possibility to integrate TON and it also gives players a bit more privacy.


Yeah, that is something which actually came to my mind as well. Sounds very weird and kind of unrealistic a casino which is based and run in a platform like Telegram somehow managed to get licensed by some reputable license issuers, specifically those in the same league which provide of license to big and reliable casinos.
Perhaps OP is trying to mean his casino running on Telegram is some kind of extension or addon to some web domain/desktop casino he wants to use for the sake of getting the license, otherwise, I find it very difficult to license issuers to set such precedent and giving green light to a casino of this characteristics.

Also, realistically, they are going to implement wagering restrictions on those bonuses, for the sake of their profitably, if they do not then the abuse by gamblers will be inevitable.

There's many Telegram Mini Apps on the platform that I'd recommend to look around Smiley In theory you can make any website to run through Telegram Web App. It's like a mobile version of the website which can feel and look quite clunky. Ours is developed specifically to work on Telegram.

Also like mentioned before on this thread, there's few other brands that also offer rewards to players without wager requirement. It's definitely more rare than deposit bonuses, but I feel it's the right way to go and this way players always control their money if they wish to withdraw or play live casino for example.

Phew! What a long post Cheesy

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May 10, 2024, 10:26:27 PM
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Welcome to the forum, your name really indicates that this is a telegram casino. You are probably the first crypto casino on Bitcointalk that's licensed by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros. Usually, every casino is licensed by Curacao or Costa Rica. I'm curious about why you decided to use this license.
Btw I wonder why are so many casinos today creating a telegram casino instead of traditional, www casinos? Is this because of marketing or is there any loophole or what is the reason? Telegram casinos are basically not different from web casinos, we just get access to www.something.io via Telegram app.

First time to hear that place. For sure, there are advantages why they used that licensing authority. Anyway, they are running telegram casino and you are in luck if they will purchase Curacao license to operate.

By the way, the dilemma of deploying telegram casino is that usually it is short-lived for so many reasons. Hard to attract high rollers also. This is why, most of them can only attract small time players, who are always on the go.

But I appreciate their rep here as he is quite active for now. Who knows, building reputation takes time and he may have what it takes to convince players from the forum to try and be one of their patrons?

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May 10, 2024, 10:56:30 PM
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Welcome to the forum, your name really indicates that this is a telegram casino. You are probably the first crypto casino on Bitcointalk that's licensed by the Government of the Autonomous Island of Anjouan, Union of Comoros. Usually, every casino is licensed by Curacao or Costa Rica. I'm curious about why you decided to use this license.
Btw I wonder why are so many casinos today creating a telegram casino instead of traditional, www casinos? Is this because of marketing or is there any loophole or what is the reason? Telegram casinos are basically not different from web casinos, we just get access to www.something.io via Telegram app.

First time to hear that place. For sure, there are advantages why they used that licensing authority. Anyway, they are running telegram casino and you are in luck if they will purchase Curacao license to operate.

By the way, the dilemma of deploying telegram casino is that usually it is short-lived for so many reasons. Hard to attract high rollers also. This is why, most of them can only attract small time players, who are always on the go.

But I appreciate their rep here as he is quite active for now. Who knows, building reputation takes time and he may have what it takes to convince players from the forum to try and be one of their patrons?

Just to clear it out once more. There was a small oversight on that part of the website copy: We're licensed in Curaçao Smiley

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May 10, 2024, 11:39:22 PM
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Get started with VIP spins
1st $50 deposit: Get 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus
2nd $50 deposit: Get another 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus
3rd $50 deposit: Unlock 50 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus

All winnings from VIP spins are wager free, real cash

This is possibly the very first online casino i coming across with such a a mouth watering bonus and yet, without a wager requirement, I will be telling a lie if I say that I am not tempted right now to deposit and seize this those free vip spins, and see whats locked in there in gates of Olympus for me.

By the way, it's my first time as well coming across this Ann on this forum, as well as the casino itself, so, permit me to say "welcome to the forum again", I am very active user of telegram and to be honest, I am amazed at the rate by which services are launching on that app, most especially in the area of gambling, alot of online casinos are over there on telegram and they all seem to be doing well for themselves.

But amongst them all I've seen and possibly tested, I think is will be the best so far, simply because of this bonuses, I am.gonna try my luck here later, let's see how it goes.

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Hi welcome to the Bitcoin forum, Playgram! There are only very few casinos here that their platform are in Telegram which is really an easy access platform, was it only accessible through Telegram? (just checked it, it seems it's only in Telegram). Anyway just like what I've snipped below, it's not that anonymous as there's an AML policy that you have.

I like your free spins with no wager requirement by the way, definitely try this site in the couple of days.
for people who are thinking (Anonymously) without KYC, they still have (AML/KYC) things.

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Welcome to bitcointalk Playgram , I love your uniqueness here as you are offering different approach for gamblers but I don't know coz i do not trust telegram completely for what this has been in the past.
anyway  good luck mate and hoping that you will gather more interests and players from bitcointalk.org.

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I don't know coz i do not trust telegram completely for what this has been in the past.
Fake users will try to impersonate others but that does not mean anything on Telegram is suspicious. Telegram is a tool and using the tool one can create an app which can be unique, interesting and beneficial to others and some scammer can impersonate their reputation and scam others. You need to be careful when you are interacting on Telegram. It's not only on Telegram but on any internet platform.

The project looks unique and interesting to me.

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Hey Playgram.io welcome to bitcointalk forum. I have already explored your casino it's quite fast for me and the designs are also eye catching  but one I think I got missed in your casino is sportsbooks, why don't you add the sports betting options in your casino or is there any planing to adding it in the future?

There are only very few casinos here that their platform are in Telegram which is really an easy access platform, was it only accessible through Telegram? (just checked it, it seems it's only in Telegram). Anyway just like what I've snipped below, it's not that anonymous as there's an AML policy that you have.
I have also noticed that they are only telegram-based they have a website but no interactions with the games. I think they targeting the only telegram lovers gamblers as well as mobile phone-friendly gambling sites.

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It's good to come back again to present a casino that is played on Telegram then I visited your casino on PC but the display is not attractive at all there are some broken images as in the text writing that is not clearly visible but for me playing Telegram casinos it will be better on mobile than on PC.

I also have a question like other users but have not found the right answer, when the teleram number is blocked and have a balance in this casino what should I do? If the number is blocked will all the balance be lost or will the casino refund the balance?

This is my simple question.

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May 11, 2024, 04:12:25 PM
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Welcome to the forum, the casino looks solid, probably this is the first time I see a good UI/UX telegram casino. Usually telegram based casinos are poorly created websites and only have classic games.

But, I'm concerned what if telegram block my number and I still have balances in my account? does I can't withdraw my money? just like this thread Becareful with telegram wallet!.

It's good to come back again to present a casino that is played on Telegram then I visited your casino on PC but the display is not attractive at all there are some broken images as in the text writing that is not clearly visible but for me playing Telegram casinos it will be better on mobile than on PC.

I also have a question like other users but have not found the right answer, when the teleram number is blocked and have a balance in this casino what should I do? If the number is blocked will all the balance be lost or will the casino refund the balance?

This is my simple question.

I've checked this with our team and we can perform some verification and reimburse the player. On this subject I cannot really go more into detail. I hope you understand. About the broken text or images, it would be great if you could please take screenshots and send it to me by PM so we can look into it further.

Hey Playgram.io welcome to bitcointalk forum. I have already explored your casino it's quite fast for me and the designs are also eye catching  but one I think I got missed in your casino is sportsbooks, why don't you add the sports betting options in your casino or is there any planing to adding it in the future?

I'm glad to hear that you also like the design! Regarding the sportsbook, I can reveal that it's on the roadmap Wink We still have a decent amount of work to do to improve the casino product and the app itself.

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I've checked this with our team and we can perform some verification and reimburse the player. On this subject I cannot really go more into detail. I hope you understand. About the broken text or images, it would be great if you could please take screenshots and send it to me by PM so we can look into it further.
Actually we don't have any problem with this just wanted to question earlier but I understand what you mean by not explaining in more detail but at least there is an explanation that can be understood by verifying and then reimbursing the player as you said, but it depends on the problem and verification by the casino team department.
Now here for me is quite clear. Wink

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Is this a sign that more telegram based casinos will be a trend this year? I have no idea about the number of active gamblers who is willing to gamble through telegram but I believe most gamblers still prefer to gamble using browser. Do you provide browser version of your casino too or it is available in telegram only? Anyway your offer seems to be quite attractive because the free spins has no wagering requirement, maybe I've tried it if you have browser version but if it is only playable through telegram then I have to think twice. Welcome and good luck though.

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Is this a sign that more telegram based casinos will be a trend this year? I have no idea about the number of active gamblers who is willing to gamble through telegram but I believe most gamblers still prefer to gamble using browser. Do you provide browser version of your casino too or it is available in telegram only? Anyway your offer seems to be quite attractive because the free spins has no wagering requirement, maybe I've tried it if you have browser version but if it is only playable through telegram then I have to think twice. Welcome and good luck though.
At the moment it looks like they only have the Telegram version. On the site there are no game to play on browser.

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We've decided not to offer deposit bonuses in the usual way. For example: Get 100% up to 0.005 Bitcoin with 40x wager requirement. What we mean by wager free/real cash rewards is that when you get free spins and win, the winnings come without wager requirement. Another example could be that you receive your weekly cashback based on your gameplay. You can either decide to play with that or withdraw it. It's yours to keep in any case.
I see, I want to give an example just to be sure I understand it. so on the original post, there is a "$50 deposit: Get 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus", Does this mean that we get a $50 dollar credit on our account and 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus and everything that is won on those 25 VIP spins doesn't have a wagering requirement and can be withdrawn immediately?
I think what is written in the first post is already clear. They did not say that we will get a $50 bonus on top of our $50 deposit but instead what we will be getting is 25 free spins on the Gates of Olympus slot game. You are correct though that we don't need to wager anymore what we have won on that free spins, which is cool.

My only concern is if how much is the worth of those free spins? It would be better if they will be more transparent and include it there as well, so that we already know what to expect and we can decide if we will still continue depositing/playing there or not. I already got caught with this one in the past, where I hastily deposit but to my surprise the bets per spin are only just a few cents. My happiness turned into sadness in real quick, lol.

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May 12, 2024, 11:20:13 AM
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Is this a sign that more telegram based casinos will be a trend this year? I have no idea about the number of active gamblers who is willing to gamble through telegram but I believe most gamblers still prefer to gamble using browser. Do you provide browser version of your casino too or it is available in telegram only? Anyway your offer seems to be quite attractive because the free spins has no wagering requirement, maybe I've tried it if you have browser version but if it is only playable through telegram then I have to think twice. Welcome and good luck though.
What exactly are you thinking twice about bud, I myself having tried quite a number of telegram based casinos and their games, I am actually surprised that some of us still kind of act like we are skeptic about telegram casinos.

From my personal experience, I can tell for sure that telegram based casino are just as good as the web versions, they are also very safe, just as safe as the web versions as well.
And again, looking at the number of telegram casinos coming onboard almost on daily or weekly basis, I am tempted to say that soon, telegram based casinos might end up being the new trend in online casinos, I won't be surprised if this trend even starts  before we enter into the coming bull run proper.

I have not tried this casino yet, but will do as soon as I get some extra funds for gambling, I like the bonus offer, very mouth watering I must say, and I can't wait to take advantage of that to try out my luck.
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May 12, 2024, 07:18:19 PM
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Is this a sign that more telegram based casinos will be a trend this year? I have no idea about the number of active gamblers who is willing to gamble through telegram but I believe most gamblers still prefer to gamble using browser. Do you provide browser version of your casino too or it is available in telegram only? Anyway your offer seems to be quite attractive because the free spins has no wagering requirement, maybe I've tried it if you have browser version but if it is only playable through telegram then I have to think twice. Welcome and good luck though.

Maybe it'a upcoming trend - there's definitely the potential for it as more people have mobiles vs PC or laptops. In theory you can also explore Playgram on your PC or laptop by installing Telegram desktop app Wink The best experience would still be on a mobile device.

We've decided not to offer deposit bonuses in the usual way. For example: Get 100% up to 0.005 Bitcoin with 40x wager requirement. What we mean by wager free/real cash rewards is that when you get free spins and win, the winnings come without wager requirement. Another example could be that you receive your weekly cashback based on your gameplay. You can either decide to play with that or withdraw it. It's yours to keep in any case.
I see, I want to give an example just to be sure I understand it. so on the original post, there is a "$50 deposit: Get 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus", Does this mean that we get a $50 dollar credit on our account and 25 VIP spins on Gates of Olympus and everything that is won on those 25 VIP spins doesn't have a wagering requirement and can be withdrawn immediately?
I think what is written in the first post is already clear. They did not say that we will get a $50 bonus on top of our $50 deposit but instead what we will be getting is 25 free spins on the Gates of Olympus slot game. You are correct though that we don't need to wager anymore what we have won on that free spins, which is cool.

My only concern is if how much is the worth of those free spins? It would be better if they will be more transparent and include it there as well, so that we already know what to expect and we can decide if we will still continue depositing/playing there or not. I already got caught with this one in the past, where I hastily deposit but to my surprise the bets per spin are only just a few cents. My happiness turned into sadness in real quick, lol.

Each VIP spin is valued at $0.60 Smiley

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May 12, 2024, 11:00:58 PM
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Talking about this issue of people's preferences when using casinos, the times I've looked on this forum at the casino ann thread and on casino review sites, it seems to me that Telegram casinos haven't been very successful, I could be wrong. But let's look at this forum, how many Telegram casinos have been operating and running a signature campaign for many months? I have hardly seen any Telegram casino running a signature campaign lasting at least 6 months. This can be interpreted that Telegram casinos are mostly low-budget casinos, which is why they cannot run a signature campaign for a long time.

Therefore, big players will hardly use Telegram casinos, even small players are scared. It is true that many new sites also have low budgets but most of them also turn out to be failures. So I ask you: will your casino run a signature campaign? It's true that running a signature campaign doesn't guarantee clients, I'm also not getting into the question of whether it would bring in many clients or not. When I ask about running a signature campaign and even so I can have an idea of what bankroll level your casino has, a casino with a high bankroll level can spend a lot of money on marketing campaigns, but like I said, most telegram casinos , seems to have been created by people with a very low level of bankroll who don't even have marketing funds

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