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May 11, 2024, 03:18:16 PM
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Hey Google, write a letter offering a one year warranty extension using this spreadsheet

^^ This is today

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2024/05/10/dell-confirms-database-hacked-hacker-says-49-million-customers-hit/?sh=3b7eb7db18fe
TLDR:   name, address and hardware info on purchases from 2017 - 2024

Gone are the days (sir) when you can recognize a scam by the poor grammar, punctuation or overall tone.    When I was younger I would scam them back (not as sophisticated as the content creators today) by wasting their time and fuel to travel to the "wrong" pickup location.  We are smart enough to recognize these scams and even utilize detection tools, but what about those we love?  Try getting grandma to use a PGP key.  :/   

I encourage my family to use a password manager, but other than that, what can we do to futureproof our relatives?

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Hey Google, find the teenagers on spring break and send their parents an official arrest record, complete with mugshot and personal details using this spreadsheet

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May 11, 2024, 03:44:07 PM
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what can we do to futureproof our relatives?

Most of the phishing I usually get is about things I don't have. But just one week ago I've received one that looked very convincing and almost got me... but my usual way to handle this stuff saved me and.. at least for phishing I do have an advice: don't ever click the links from e-mails, go instead directly to the related app or website and check there, usually you should have a message, warning, whatever. Else.. it was probably phishing.


For the cases they may e-mail (or phone!) the parents that you're in trouble... it's more difficult, indeed. The only idea I have is something I've heard of for keeping the smaller kids safe: discuss about a number, phrase, keyword, whatever: only if that is part of the e-mail or discussion it will be taken serious, else it can be considered fraud attempt. But, I know, this doesn't apply to all possible cases.
At least in case of arrest a phone call is permitted, right?
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May 11, 2024, 07:33:36 PM
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At least in case of arrest a phone call is permitted, right?

In non-fascist states, yes - it is considered a human right.

But AI could easily generate me in a hospital bed with a tube down my throat - unable to talk.  :/
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May 12, 2024, 05:51:49 PM
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But AI could easily generate me in a hospital bed with a tube down my throat - unable to talk.  :/

Of course that there are this kind of scams too, and the number of them is increasing. I've thought of them, but I tried to not give out ideas...
For now for such cases maybe a WhatsApp video call can still hold as proof... until deep fake can be much more widely used.
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May 12, 2024, 11:25:09 PM
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I've thought of them, but I tried to not give out ideas...

Another thing I hate about AI movies like Terminator.  The advanced AI has already thought of the idea, analyzed everything about it, and applied additional sensors or whatever else was needed to increase defense.   It's a good idea not to give bad guys bad ideas now, since they still have to tell the AI what to do.   When GAI/GIA? decides it needs to defend itself, humanity will not be able to think of novel ideas to succeed. 

Also, the GAI is not going to destroy our infrastructure with bombs.  All the unnatural chemical reactions and increased rodent populations will hurt them more than us.     Smiley
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May 14, 2024, 02:28:01 PM
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I usually double or triple check the senders email address, it’s usually a give away when they have a really amateur email domain. I can see why some people get tricked though, these scammers are a lot more sophisticated than they used to be.
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