War will give reason to make different economics blocks east/west

[bitterguy28]

India is is super Economic power in east and they have no debt to pay but mostly countries are facing debt problem.

india is not totally debt free but their debt is considered to be in the safe zone as their gdp is progressly increasing over time

india used to be a third world country but is now considered to be a developing one. debts are okay as long as a country can pay it off ad can use it for the betterment of their country

[Iranus]

Op, I think USA want to be strong from any country of the World So USA did attack on  Japan because Japan were progressing and USA could see if any country go ahead from USA . USA country is Dollar and USA is controlling all the World and if you talk about debt on USA government then I will tell you ,every government take debt and Thay is necessary for country growth but I know India is is super Economic power in east and they have no debt to pay but mostly countries are facing debt problem. But debt is due government bad strategies and corruption of politicians and when politicians will not do corruption,the country will stand on its feet but it is very difficult for every country.

Basically, US is still the number 1 power in the world and they have held this position for nearly 105 years since World War II, and what they are doing is finding ways to maintain their position against opponents like China. They do not see Japan as a rival because Japan is their close Asian ally and depends on them militarily.

As for debt to the Government, as you said, that is just the Government's strategy in balancing and promoting the domestic economy. In addition, I think it is a binding strategy of great powers towards other countries, and here it can be said that the US. The US always tries to make other countries indebted and dependent on them. As for America's public debt, I think those are just numbers because they are still the ones holding the world's money printing machine, they have more than enough power to pay off debt by printing money and exporting inflation to the world. 

By the way, do you have any proof that India is debt free?

[AVE5]

Reading this reminded me of the adage that a common farmer is richer than who has a lot of money stacked in the bank because you can only get the food to eat if the farmer decides to sell for you and if he doesn't you'll die on starvation.
So I agree with you OP that critical matters such as crisis can make give reasons to attempt economic predictions. That's if you really need those basic and essential oils things to hedge defences and sustainabilities.

[Casdinyard]

Wars are fought because of money and nothing else, that is why to incite a war against someone else is to "wage" one.

There's no doubt that some country's going to profit off of this war between countries, and I'm seeing Russia and the communist party of China either becoming the biggest gainers or losers of this war. China's eyeing the West Philippine Sea for its resources and irreplaceable vantage position that would hold value when a war inevitably breaks. Russia has been taking a lot of Ls even from strategically weaker countries like Ukraine but you can't count them out. The US is no doubt looking for ways to find oil in the equation and earn money in the process while also annexing territories which is one thing they are good at except putting their nose where it doesn't belong.

[Argoo]

Due to the military attack of Putin's Russia on Ukraine and receiving a worthy rebuff from both Ukrainians and civilized countries, the political and economic power of Russia is greatly declining, and Russia itself may completely turn into a rogue country with the loss of most of its colonies, which it mercilessly exploited in over the last century.

In this regard, states will be forced to unite into various economic, political and military blocs, taking into account the new reality occurring in and around Russia.
In the meantime, the world is taking political and economic steps that should lead to Russia’s capitulation and its punishment for its aggressive war against Ukraine.

Thus, on June 25, the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) announced a decision on the merits of the first interstate case in the ECHR “Ukraine v. Russia” regarding Crimea, recognizing the existence of systematic violations of human rights in the occupied territories. The peninsula has been under the control of the aggressor country since 2014.

In addition, on June 25, the International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants for former Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and the head of the Russian General Staff Valery Gerasimov in connection with attacks on the energy infrastructure of Ukraine and harm to civilians and relate to events that took place from October 10, 2022 to at least March 9, 2023, as well as for war crimes of causing excessive incidental harm to civilians or damage to civilian objects. They are also suspected of crimes against humanity “in the form of inhumane acts.”

On June 26, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) adopted a resolution on the creation of a special tribunal for Russia. It is proposed to create it on the basis of an agreement between the Council of Europe and Ukraine.

On June 29, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), uniting 53 states, adopted a resolution recognizing the actions of the military-political leadership of Russia and its Armed Forces as genocide of the Ukrainian people. In addition, the need to decolonize the aggressor country is pointed out.

It is not difficult to imagine what will happen to the Russian economy when it is obliged to compensate for the damage caused to Ukraine by military actions over the past ten years.

[bestcoins1]

india is not totally debt free but their debt is considered to be in the safe zone as their gdp is progressly increasing over time

india used to be a third world country but is now considered to be a developing one. debts are okay as long as a country can pay it off ad can use it for the betterment of their country

Taking on debt to achieve progress is not wrong as long as the designation is clear enough and has a good impact on the country, but that is not what we are worried about. Rather, it is when a country cannot pay off its debts on time and this actually worsens the development of its own country in the long term. So, in any case, debt must be clear about what it is intended for and what it will be used for so that there are better results for those who take out the debt, including for the country, of course.

[pooya87]

Taking on debt to achieve progress is not wrong as long as the designation is clear enough and has a good impact on the country, but that is not what we are worried about. Rather, it is when a country cannot pay off its debts on time and this actually worsens the development of its own country in the long term. So, in any case, debt must be clear about what it is intended for and what it will be used for so that there are better results for those who take out the debt, including for the country, of course.

I wouldn't call debt "not wrong", it is bad whether it is an individual taking a loan from a bank or a government printing money (creating debt). Debt is created due to desperation and the fact that they can not think of any other way to fill the gap in the budget. Sometimes it is inevitable but it still is bad because it only kicks the problem down the line instead of fixing it.

[temple]

Taking on debt to achieve progress is not wrong as long as the designation is clear enough and has a good impact on the country, but that is not what we are worried about. Rather, it is when a country cannot pay off its debts on time and this actually worsens the development of its own country in the long term. So, in any case, debt must be clear about what it is intended for and what it will be used for so that there are better results for those who take out the debt, including for the country, of course.

I wouldn't call debt "not wrong", it is bad whether it is an individual taking a loan from a bank or a government printing money (creating debt). Debt is created due to desperation and the fact that they can not think of any other way to fill the gap in the budget. Sometimes it is inevitable but it still is bad because it only kicks the problem down the line instead of fixing it.

And even worse than that, "government printing money (creating debt)" means nothing else but citizens amassing more debt. There is this semantic disconnect that a lot of people don't get who don't understand how many is created and how it works. When the "government" prints money, for the individual it is as if every neighbor has a money printer but that one person does not. The "government" then takes the money back from its citizens via very sophisticated ways. It begins with cancelling little support programs in medical care, increase the kinds of taxes that nobody really pays attention to, raise the fees in state-owned institutions like museums, swimming pools, public toilets, etc.

If you asked someone "hey did you know that all your neighbors have a money printing machine in their basement and this is why the bakery is more expensive now as the people have more money to pay for the products", everyone would want a money printing machine, too. Intuitively it would be like that, but it's like the tragedy of the commons where people would print themselves to financial obliteration. The idea is that a government knows better when to print and when not, but I guess we agree that this idea seems to be going the wrong way. 

[pooya87]

The idea is that a government knows better when to print and when not, but I guess we agree that this idea seems to be going the wrong way. 

They always choose the worst but easiest way which is to print money. Specially in democracies where the government is only "renting" the office for a short time and is not responsible for the long term damage.
They print the money today to solve their own problems today and postpone the negative consequences, consequences which will be faced by the next team in the office!

[Ozero]

We are already seeing how, as a result of the war that Russia unleashed by attacking Ukraine, two opposing blocs are being formed, but not economic, but primarily political. This is the so-called axis of evil - Russia, Iran, North Korea and presumably China, which does not directly express its intentions and its officials always express it very vaguely. On the other hand, Ukraine, as a victim of a military attack, is supported by the United States and European countries, as well as to varying degrees by 50 other states. But the solution to military issues is always intertwined with economic issues.
But in the world, besides this war, there are other smaller wars and zones of military conflicts with their own various interests. As a result, interests and contradictions intensify and it becomes very difficult to understand the cycle of all the events taking place.

[Fortify]

War Will give reasons to create different economic blocks.
But west also need products of East so they will buy it anyways.
But war most likely is the tighting reason for china and russia the stronger hand for their own citizens.
China and others brics can go far as to start control internet and stop communication with west or people in the east some people can choose the side west or East.
Like the blackrock said it's a end of globalisation.
So countries like china Will be more strong over their people so younger ones don't see how west lives no access to info older ones knows all ready so now there is plan to isolate parents from kids so the goverment can teach their kids things how to be productive.
It's not secret that west has a lot money and have bought from china a lot things and china have now a lot dollars.
Let's be focus on that matter even world richest ones don't care about numbers of money they know that will have that numbers anyways ...what the focus is that productions and productivity so greatest economical value is work but nobody don't want to do that so countries like china Will place strict rules make slaves working and west is buying
My point is that more and more wealthy people will be in west who all need a lot products it means east must work harder that's the reality and next step will be to divide people so some people will not have even ideas how the rest of the world lives and that will create very strong work culture and west can keep printing more paper.
We the Western people are slaves also but not work slaves we are just debt slaves of debt what will be never paid we pay just something and take new debt the old debt not paid but still our life don't change much inflation goes up we just borrow more to live because money not problem because it's not valueble as work we just borrow money to not working
Remember west only buying nothing else

Do you seek for the world to be divided? Because it will only end badly, as we saw in the previous two world wars. Globalization does create a lot of upset, as it uproots jobs in some countries and moves them over to cheaper countries, however those jobs should be replaceable with better jobs in reality. It is clear that authoritarian governments like China and Russia have leaders who are bit unhinged, ready to plunge the world into war for the sake of their own vanity, but every day we walk a fine balance of stifling the worst of their atrocities and diminishing their war mongering abilities. Russia is weak and getting weaker, but China / Europe and the USA will be defining how the world keeps the peace in the future - we should hope the leaders all work out ways to keep the peace.

[pooya87]

Do you seek for the world to be divided? Because it will only end badly, as we saw in the previous two world wars.

The two world wars were European wars where the colonizers were mainly fighting over more power and poured their fight into the rest of the world. It had nothing to do with the world being divided.

The New World Order with the different blocs is not about division either:

Globalization does create a lot of ~

The problem was not globalization, the problem was the unipolar world where one regime was controlling everything and ran a dictatorship. Like using all international organizations such as UN, IMF, etc. as a weapon against other countries.

Globalization is changing but not in the way you think. There still will be "interdependence" but there won't be a single pole dictating everything, there will be multiple.

It is clear that authoritarian governments like China and Russia have leaders who are bit unhinged, ready to plunge the world into war for the sake of their own vanity,

Have you counted how many wars have these "authoritarian" governments started in the past 80 years?
Have you also counted how many wars has NATO (read USA) has started in the same period?

but China / Europe and the USA will be defining how the world keeps the peace in the future

Please do count those wars and see who is no-keeping peace.
BTW even in the previous World Order Europe meant nothing and in the New World Order Europe will become even weaker both thanks to US...

[Argoo]

Wars are fought because of money and nothing else, that is why to incite a war against someone else is to "wage" one.

There's no doubt that some country's going to profit off of this war between countries, and I'm seeing Russia and the communist party of China either becoming the biggest gainers or losers of this war. China's eyeing the West Philippine Sea for its resources and irreplaceable vantage position that would hold value when a war inevitably breaks. Russia has been taking a lot of Ls even from strategically weaker countries like Ukraine but you can't count them out. The US is no doubt looking for ways to find oil in the equation and earn money in the process while also annexing territories which is one thing they are good at except putting their nose where it doesn't belong.

Wars are fought for various reasons and not only for money. Russia's attack on Ukraine is an example of this statement. It is more about politics and strengthening Putin's own position both within his own country and on the international stage. However, Putin clearly miscalculated with Ukraine and everything happened exactly the opposite of his wishes.

Having seen the atrocities committed by Russian troops in Ukraine against civilians, NATO countries, and especially the Baltic countries, have sharply increased their defense spending and are even changing their defense strategy in the event of a Russian invasion. If Estonia previously allowed Russian occupation troops to remain on its territory for up to ten days before the arrival of NATO allies, now, as they put it, they will not wait for a sledgehammer to hit their heads, but will launch a preemptive strike against Russian troop concentrations on Russian territory if there is only a threat of such an attack.

https://world.comments.ua/news/nato/napadenie-na-ukrainu-vse-perecherknulo-v-nato-ne-skryvayut-chto-gotovyatsya-k-voyne-s-rossiey-741872.amp

[icalical]

War Will give reasons to create different economic blocks.
But west also need products of East so they will buy it anyways.
But war most likely is the tighting reason for china and russia the stronger hand for their own citizens.
China and others brics can go far as to start control internet and stop communication with west or people in the east some people can choose the side west or East.
Like the blackrock said it's a end of globalisation.
So countries like china Will be more strong over their people so younger ones don't see how west lives no access to info older ones knows all ready so now there is plan to isolate parents from kids so the goverment can teach their kids things how to be productive.
It's not secret that west has a lot money and have bought from china a lot things and china have now a lot dollars.
Let's be focus on that matter even world richest ones don't care about numbers of money they know that will have that numbers anyways ...what the focus is that productions and productivity so greatest economical value is work but nobody don't want to do that so countries like china Will place strict rules make slaves working and west is buying
My point is that more and more wealthy people will be in west who all need a lot products it means east must work harder that's the reality and next step will be to divide people so some people will not have even ideas how the rest of the world lives and that will create very strong work culture and west can keep printing more paper.
We the Western people are slaves also but not work slaves we are just debt slaves of debt what will be never paid we pay just something and take new debt the old debt not paid but still our life don't change much inflation goes up we just borrow more to live because money not problem because it's not valueble as work we just borrow money to not working
Remember west only buying nothing else

While BRICS Plus gets stronger, that includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa with their new members, it does not tend to be totally isolated from the West. Instead, it would create alternative systems. BRICS today represents nearly half of the world's population and a full quarter of global trade and energy production.

That said, it is unlikely to cut off all communications and isolate the citizens from the rest of the world in today's interconnected world. Even China, known for its internet restrictions, does heavy international trade and development in technology. While the West and the East may be in some sort of competition, mutual dependency, especially in trade and technology, remains a key factor. The idea is not about shutting doors but rather about balancing influence.

The idea that the West will print money while China becomes increasingly more authoritarian in its drive for productivity is over simplistic. It is thus that economic giants manage to adapt to realities that might be emerging through technological innovation and shifting policies. Most likely, it will be cooperation amidst competition.